I am a 62 year old lifelong Giants fan. I've seen 4 championship wins. I'm satisfied. Think of the Browns or Lions or Vikings. 0 championships. Thats how I handle these low points of the G-Men!
I’m with you on that. It took about 10 years to get to a Super Bowl from the 89/90 season to the 99/00 season and about 18 seasons before we finally won again in 07/08. It’s been only 13 seasons since our last one, so I’m not angry. Just patiently waiting like usual.
I am not satisfied. This team has turned into what the Mets were like at their worst. Its an embarassing clown show. Im not young either, ive seen all 4 sb victories, but alot of younger people havent. No, this is no good, at least be competitive again, not a circus act.
@Sublight77 I am not making excuses for the Giants. But the NFL is the hardest sport to build a competitive or winning team! Injuries, the crap shoot draft, loosing coaches every year. But the Giants need to do a better job than this. Ultimately it's on the owner! Plain and simple!
The fanbase is not even angry anymore, WE ARE COMPLETELY NUMB TO THIS FEELING. Why would we be angry if there is nothing to look forward to. This team has drained all the energy out of the fanbase.
The Giants have turned me from a hardcore nfl fanatic to completely apathetic towards anything football related. Idc anymore and was barely paying attention to the gameast week because I already know they can't ever catch a break from the refs or their own bullshit
What the New York Giants need...a head coach with a proven track record. Tired of the coordinators getting their feet wet with the Giants and it being an utter mess. Call Pete Carroll and offer him the keys to the organization. He has won every single place he went and built cultures that were rock solid. I know his age isn't ideal but at this time he's the best option.
Carroll is washed. Enjoy Marvin Lewis as the next head coach, no one worth a damn will want to take over if they barely get any time to fix things. Better off being patient and letting Schoen and Daboll continue to build and draft a QB.
Just watching them to find how much they’ll lose by. Also how they’ll find a new way to lose. I’m 71 years old and a lifelong Giant fan. Can’t even get angry anymore
Joe Schoen (rookie GM) and Brian Daboll (rookie HC) both of these guys are just not ready to succeed in this league. This is what happens when you put rookies in the two most IMPORTANT positions in your organization. IRRELEVANCY !!! What was Mara and company thinking? PLEASE GIVE BELICHICK A CALL MR. MARA!!!
Belichick is cooked. The last thing I want is him bringing all his buddies here to win 5 games and draft the next Cole Strange. I’d rather keep Schoen and Daboll and let them build.
I grew up watching the Giants in the 70's. From '73-'80 they averaged 4 wins per season. They should play next season in the Yale Bowl for old times' sake.
@purplesprigs most teams give the rookie qb a 2 or 3 year window to perform at a high level. Not the Giants. That's what is killing the fans! Mara's run this like a pansy!
They still haven't prioritized fixing the online, which has sucked for 10+ years. They hired a coach with no head coaching experience. They traded up to draft Daniel Jones and then they gave him a contract for an elite QB. They won't fix these mistakes. Jones isn't going to bench himself, and Daboll and the GM aren't going to fire themselves. All these problems are because of the owner, Mara; and he refuses to correct them. Folks, don't waste your time supporting this team. The owner doesn't care about you. There are a billion better things to do on a Sunday than watch this circus.
Why is there still any doubt about sitting Jones? Also, why is there any doubt that Daboll and Schoen need to go???? When you have a 7rh overall pick LT that you tried and failed to convert to a RT, then your LT goes down, and you have to raid someone's PS for a LT that you start that week? while your first rounder sits on the bench. Isn't that a MAJOR FAILURE of Schoen? So we want THAT GUY, to pick our next Franchise QB >?? might as well bring Gettleman back and let him pick another obscure QB from DUKE.
This team only has a couple guys who are legit game changers. Dexter is obviously #1 on that list. Nabors might be that sort of guy. Tyrone Tracy is developing into that sort of guy. There are other guys who could be part of a winning team, but mainly, its a bunch of guys who take turns making the sort of avoidable mistakes in critical situations that lose games. DJ needs to find a new NFL home for his sake and for the Giants. We need a QB who can lift the play of his teammates. He ain’t that guy. DJ is a good guy, a hard worker, and would probably succeed in a strong organization. But he doesn’t hit enough plays in critical moments when the game is on the line.
I wanted Odunze. One look at the two of them and I can can read from 50 miles away but Nabers was another dig-me head case wideout and Odunze was a good citizen.
Jets fan here - I think Daboll is the real deal and should be given another shot, but a miss at QB (as well as the stubborn insistence on staying with him) will torpedo an entire team. The Giants should’ve realized this and not given him a deal, much less gotten rid of Saquon to afford him. Joe Schoen and the personnel department have been bad.
dabol is not the real deal if he was his offense would not be last and you cant say it's Daniel Jones he's part of it also but dabol is not well liked just look at his interview arrogant and that's why wink left
How many times do I have to read this shit? The team offered Saquon multiple deals, he said no each and every time. The Giants then secured Jones and worked on getting an offensive line. As for Brian Daboll, you must not watch a lot of Giants games - his decision making sucks, he is unable to build rapport with his coaches and some of his play calls are atrocious.
I think they really need to get a veteran qb next year . And draft a guy they like and sit him like the old days and let him learn. Also unless we could get bellichek as gm or coach . I let dabol and schoen keep going a few more years .
There’s no foundational players to build off of, especially from the first 2 drafts. This 3rd draft is carrying heavy, but it’s not a good thing to have so many starters who are rookies. Because our two previous drafts have busts & duds all over. Who’s Schoens most foundational player? Nabers? Thibs? Wandale? McFadden? None of them hold a candle to Dex, AT, (previously Saquon) - all Gettleman picks. Schoen is not it. He & Dabs need to go
What about Cutlets ? Run it back and dress his clown agent in silly costumes again? Play “Sopranos” theme music ? Y’all loved it last season. Why not try again ?
They won’t, nor should they. I hope you enjoy Dennis Hickey at GM and Robert Saleh at HC, that’s who you’d get. Washed up scrubs or patsy hires. No one worth a damn would come here.
So why not bring up all the dropped passes by Malik? His lack of effort when he’s not getting the ball. Malik is another Diva who doesn’t play hard unless it benefits him.
I don’t think Nabers is a Diva at all; he kinda said one thing, ONE thing, that was “somewhat” questionable…but that’s a reach honestly. People are reading too deeply into what he’s saying and trying to make him look bad
I don’t know what going on I don’t call the plays! That doesn’t sound like a guys who has the answers it sounds like the opposite! U people ask for more than the company line from players and then when u get it ur complaining! Jones Daboll and scheon must go
He's so correct in his interpretation of how the Giant's team is playing.......they suck at all phases of the game.....a fish stinks from the head....the referees are now telling them how bad they are by calling ridiculous penalties.....
People demanded a rebuild and outside hire in 2021. Congratulations, you got what you wanted. Now you have no choice but to be patient while the team is under construction. Or, you know, FiRe EvErYoNe AnD GeT bElIcHiCk
We are just a bad team. Plain and simple. We don’t do anything great, although we are sacking the QB. However, this singular talent is often spoiled by a lack of total defense. Our sacks rarely change the game to our advantage as they do for other teams, because we aren’t strong anywhere else on defense. What gets me is that the coaches we’ve chosen since TC, have all let their strengths become weaknesses, and haven’t done much to improve our team. “In neutral” is a great way to put it, I just simply say we are a bad team with a few good players, but without a winning philosophy and the moxie to go out and put it all together. It may start with DJ, but it ends with some poor coaching and a front office that hasn’t clearly defined what direction we are going. And the frustrating part is that the owners haven’t stuck with anyone long enough to at least send us in a direction. When we did have a more complete team we had poor coaching and bad drafts. Now we lack overall talent and are wasting someone who probably would be a good coach, and clearly JS is a good GM. We are going to have to nail the draft and FA, otherwise I’m not sure you don’t see a large chunk of folks who’ve been longtime fans finally say this is it, I’m done.
30-year season ticket holder. You're telling me. Boomer it's been about the tailgates for the longest time. The owner the front office has been a mess for the last 10 plus years.. 💙 Go Blue. JONES SUCKS 🤜🏿🤛🏼
Daboll sucks .. worst coach in the NFL .. I’m tired of hearing the same old crap about Daniel Jones .. Jones has become a scapegoat for his awful coaching . His teams are sloppy , unmotivated, undisciplined, and can’t even do basics .. Giving him another year would be the most Giants thing ever .. The Ny giants are genuinely a lost organization and need a complete reset ..nobody comes to the Giants and gets better .. we have such little talent year after year .. A top QB would be absolutely insane to leave college to play here .. The Giants ruin careers and that’s a fact .. I can’t wait till this regime is gone .. The best year they had was the team inherited from Gettleman.. 3 years in we look worst than ever ..
Say goodbye to the GM say goodbye to the manager. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Daniel Jones. 🤜🏿🤛🏼 THANK YOU PHILADELPHIA EAGLES FOR SAVING MY BOY BARKLEY'S CAREER 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@ebayer4life980 ur right dumb, dumb! Danny jones is also the oc. That means offensive coordinator! Of course he isn't! SO 22 out of 26 means just like it sounds!! U have a losing argument! I'll take 22 for 26 with 2tds every week from my qb! Such a dumb, dumb!
Is that really saying much? Considering Jones has been in the league since 2019, and Caleb is still developing as a player. You should be embarrassed saying that.
I am a 62 year old lifelong Giants fan. I've seen 4 championship wins. I'm satisfied. Think of the Browns or Lions or Vikings. 0 championships. Thats how I handle these low points of the G-Men!
I’m with you on that. It took about 10 years to get to a Super Bowl from the 89/90 season to the 99/00 season and about 18 seasons before we finally won again in 07/08. It’s been only 13 seasons since our last one, so I’m not angry. Just patiently waiting like usual.
The problem is the team is embarrassing year after year. At least get us a .500 team.
I am not satisfied. This team has turned into what the Mets were like at their worst. Its an embarassing clown show. Im not young either, ive seen all 4 sb victories, but alot of younger people havent. No, this is no good, at least be competitive again, not a circus act.
@Sublight77 I am not making excuses for the Giants. But the NFL is the hardest sport to build a competitive or winning team! Injuries, the crap shoot draft, loosing coaches every year. But the Giants need to do a better job than this. Ultimately it's on the owner! Plain and simple!
I’m 24 I’ve seen the giants win 2 super bowls in my life, yeah seeing our team be dog shit for years is hurtful. But our time is coming !
The fanbase is not even angry anymore, WE ARE COMPLETELY NUMB TO THIS FEELING. Why would we be angry if there is nothing to look forward to. This team has drained all the energy out of the fanbase.
Beautifully said
This is 100% accurate.
Preach , I'm done
Correct
Jones is not a starting caliber QB. John Mara is the problem
Exactly.
...And Daboll is not head coach material, nor is the GM.
Mara refuses to fix his mistakes.
The Giants have turned me from a hardcore nfl fanatic to completely apathetic towards anything football related. Idc anymore and was barely paying attention to the gameast week because I already know they can't ever catch a break from the refs or their own bullshit
Tracy and Nabors are the two brightest spots from the season,, something to have hope for this offense
O-line looking at least better until Thomas got hurt, but the money was put to good use there. Baby steps.
What the New York Giants need...a head coach with a proven track record. Tired of the coordinators getting their feet wet with the Giants and it being an utter mess. Call Pete Carroll and offer him the keys to the organization. He has won every single place he went and built cultures that were rock solid. I know his age isn't ideal but at this time he's the best option.
I have to agree. Daboll is in over his head
Carroll is washed. Enjoy Marvin Lewis as the next head coach, no one worth a damn will want to take over if they barely get any time to fix things. Better off being patient and letting Schoen and Daboll continue to build and draft a QB.
Just watching them to find how much they’ll lose by. Also how they’ll find a new way to lose. I’m 71 years old and a lifelong Giant fan. Can’t even get angry anymore
Terrible drafting for a decade. Full stop.
Joe Schoen (rookie GM) and Brian Daboll (rookie HC) both of these guys are just not ready to succeed in this league. This is what happens when you put rookies in the two most IMPORTANT positions in your organization. IRRELEVANCY !!! What was Mara and company thinking? PLEASE GIVE BELICHICK A CALL MR. MARA!!!
Belichick is cooked. The last thing I want is him bringing all his buddies here to win 5 games and draft the next Cole Strange. I’d rather keep Schoen and Daboll and let them build.
I grew up watching the Giants in the 70's. From '73-'80 they averaged 4 wins per season. They should play next season in the Yale Bowl for old times' sake.
@purplesprigs most teams give the rookie qb a 2 or 3 year window to perform at a high level. Not the Giants. That's what is killing the fans! Mara's run this like a pansy!
I just want consistency being competitive and more wins. Not anemic on offense and consistency when making mistakes or poor clock and game management.
They still haven't prioritized fixing the online, which has sucked for 10+ years.
They hired a coach with no head coaching experience.
They traded up to draft Daniel Jones and then they gave him a contract for an elite QB.
They won't fix these mistakes.
Jones isn't going to bench himself, and Daboll and the GM aren't going to fire themselves. All these problems are because of the owner, Mara; and he refuses to correct them.
Folks, don't waste your time supporting this team. The owner doesn't care about you.
There are a billion better things to do on a Sunday than watch this circus.
Why is there still any doubt about sitting Jones? Also, why is there any doubt that Daboll and Schoen need to go???? When you have a 7rh overall pick LT that you tried and failed to convert to a RT, then your LT goes down, and you have to raid someone's PS for a LT that you start that week? while your first rounder sits on the bench. Isn't that a MAJOR FAILURE of Schoen? So we want THAT GUY, to pick our next Franchise QB >?? might as well bring Gettleman back and let him pick another obscure QB from DUKE.
Schorn is worse than Gettlemsn, he cant draft pays the wrong guys,
Gettleman never won a playoff game with the Giants, but okay😂
@baxatakbaxatak2014 he won that with Gettleman s guys hello. We are 2 years into his build where we at?
This team only has a couple guys who are legit game changers. Dexter is obviously #1 on that list. Nabors might be that sort of guy. Tyrone Tracy is developing into that sort of guy. There are other guys who could be part of a winning team, but mainly, its a bunch of guys who take turns making the sort of avoidable mistakes in critical situations that lose games. DJ needs to find a new NFL home for his sake and for the Giants. We need a QB who can lift the play of his teammates. He ain’t that guy. DJ is a good guy, a hard worker, and would probably succeed in a strong organization. But he doesn’t hit enough plays in critical moments when the game is on the line.
LOL not one team in the league wants DJ
@ as a backup QB it’s a different conversation.
Jones is a good kid, and I thank him for the playoff win. I look forward to the next QB that Schoen and Daboll will draft and develop.
I wanted Odunze. One look at the two of them and I can can read from 50 miles away but Nabers was another dig-me head case wideout and Odunze was a good citizen.
Jets fan here - I think Daboll is the real deal and should be given another shot, but a miss at QB (as well as the stubborn insistence on staying with him) will torpedo an entire team. The Giants should’ve realized this and not given him a deal, much less gotten rid of Saquon to afford him. Joe Schoen and the personnel department have been bad.
dabol is not the real deal if he was his offense would not be last and you cant say it's Daniel Jones he's part of it also but dabol is not well liked just look at his interview arrogant and that's why wink left
How many times do I have to read this shit? The team offered Saquon multiple deals, he said no each and every time. The Giants then secured Jones and worked on getting an offensive line. As for Brian Daboll, you must not watch a lot of Giants games - his decision making sucks, he is unable to build rapport with his coaches and some of his play calls are atrocious.
FIRE DABOLL!
They won’t and shouldn’t. This is a rebuild. Outside hire at GM, like everyone wanted. No choice but to be patient.
I think they really need to get a veteran qb next year . And draft a guy they like and sit him like the old days and let him learn. Also unless we could get bellichek as gm or coach . I let dabol and schoen keep going a few more years .
Many dropped passes. Outstanding effort on the TD run. Yet people are continuously ragging on the QB?
I do kind of wish we drafted Michael Penix
Nah gotta hold out for Archibald Manning.
There’s no foundational players to build off of, especially from the first 2 drafts. This 3rd draft is carrying heavy, but it’s not a good thing to have so many starters who are rookies. Because our two previous drafts have busts & duds all over. Who’s Schoens most foundational player? Nabers? Thibs? Wandale? McFadden? None of them hold a candle to Dex, AT, (previously Saquon) - all Gettleman picks. Schoen is not it. He & Dabs need to go
What about Cutlets ? Run it back and dress his clown agent in silly costumes again? Play “Sopranos” theme music ?
Y’all loved it last season. Why not try again ?
They won’t, nor should they. I hope you enjoy Dennis Hickey at GM and Robert Saleh at HC, that’s who you’d get. Washed up scrubs or patsy hires. No one worth a damn would come here.
Pennix...NO
Yes
So why not bring up all the dropped passes by Malik? His lack of effort when he’s not getting the ball. Malik is another Diva who doesn’t play hard unless it benefits him.
The have been a laughing stock of the NFC East for quite sometime
All them qbs...including Eli at the end. Makes me wonder if its the qb. Keep changing the QB n get the same result.
I don’t think Nabers is a Diva at all; he kinda said one thing, ONE thing, that was “somewhat” questionable…but that’s a reach honestly. People are reading too deeply into what he’s saying and trying to make him look bad
I don’t know what going on I don’t call the plays! That doesn’t sound like a guys who has the answers it sounds like the opposite! U people ask for more than the company line from players and then when u get it ur complaining! Jones Daboll and scheon must go
He's not wrong ... Sad part is what they did ... Or didn't do ... in the off season ended the season before it began.
Nabers being real is what we need, stop being scared of speaking what they need to hear.
I cant even watch anymore. Its too aggravating. I let the game finish and watch the utube highlights. It saves my esophagus from erosion
Why cant the giants franchise be stabilized?
Just a freefall every single yr
It doesn’t take decades to rebuild
On a pace for 3 wins I don’t see anything on the schedule to win
Rebuilds are like that.
@ and it will be another year without football 🏈 in January
He's so correct in his interpretation of how the Giant's team is playing.......they suck at all phases of the game.....a fish stinks from the head....the referees are now telling them how bad they are by calling ridiculous penalties.....
I would have GONE with Penix.
People demanded a rebuild and outside hire in 2021. Congratulations, you got what you wanted. Now you have no choice but to be patient while the team is under construction. Or, you know, FiRe EvErYoNe AnD GeT bElIcHiCk
We are just a bad team. Plain and simple. We don’t do anything great, although we are sacking the QB. However, this singular talent is often spoiled by a lack of total defense. Our sacks rarely change the game to our advantage as they do for other teams, because we aren’t strong anywhere else on defense.
What gets me is that the coaches we’ve chosen since TC, have all let their strengths become weaknesses, and haven’t done much to improve our team. “In neutral” is a great way to put it, I just simply say we are a bad team with a few good players, but without a winning philosophy and the moxie to go out and put it all together. It may start with DJ, but it ends with some poor coaching and a front office that hasn’t clearly defined what direction we are going. And the frustrating part is that the owners haven’t stuck with anyone long enough to at least send us in a direction. When we did have a more complete team we had poor coaching and bad drafts. Now we lack overall talent and are wasting someone who probably would be a good coach, and clearly JS is a good GM. We are going to have to nail the draft and FA, otherwise I’m not sure you don’t see a large chunk of folks who’ve been longtime fans finally say this is it, I’m done.
Promote Brandon Brown and can Schoen, theres no coincidence the 2024 draft was the best in recent years
30-year season ticket holder. You're telling me. Boomer it's been about the tailgates for the longest time. The owner the front office has been a mess for the last 10 plus years.. 💙 Go Blue. JONES SUCKS 🤜🏿🤛🏼
@@dokedoker3340Cowboys are in the same boat
Yes, I just want to see a touchdown - but for the other team. Giants need to lose, lose and lose again
wtf are they talking about with Nabers. Acting like he’s a cancer?!?! This is what happens when you lose, they talk about nonsense
Daboll sucks .. worst coach in the NFL .. I’m tired of hearing the same old crap about Daniel Jones .. Jones has become a scapegoat for his awful coaching . His teams are sloppy , unmotivated, undisciplined, and can’t even do basics .. Giving him another year would be the most Giants thing ever .. The Ny giants are genuinely a lost organization and need a complete reset ..nobody comes to the Giants and gets better .. we have such little talent year after year .. A top QB would be absolutely insane to leave college to play here .. The Giants ruin careers and that’s a fact .. I can’t wait till this regime is gone .. The best year they had was the team inherited from Gettleman.. 3 years in we look worst than ever ..
how is nabers is a cancer there wrong if i was him i would be mad also especiall if you have jones as your QB
Say goodbye to the GM say goodbye to the manager. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Daniel Jones. 🤜🏿🤛🏼 THANK YOU PHILADELPHIA EAGLES FOR SAVING MY BOY BARKLEY'S CAREER 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Danny jones was 22 out of 26, with 2 tds! With also two dropped balls. Def not on dj! Daboll is absolute TRASH!
I think it was 20-26 but I hear you
Wow. 174 yards lol. Jones needs to go if you are happy with this. You’re literally happy with the most basic stats lol
@ebayer4life980 ur right dumb, dumb! Danny jones is also the oc. That means offensive coordinator! Of course he isn't! SO 22 out of 26 means just like it sounds!! U have a losing argument! I'll take 22 for 26 with 2tds every week from my qb! Such a dumb, dumb!
@ebayer4life980 I can't believe Giants fans still believe in Dan Dan the doo doo man 😅 they are delusional
Daboll is holdin g DJ back i can see it in his eyes! but DJ won't throw him under the bus!
gio - daniel jones is way better than caleb williams, are you f'n kidding me?
Is that really saying much? Considering Jones has been in the league since 2019, and Caleb is still developing as a player. You should be embarrassed saying that.
@@kevinstewart8054😅 💯