Which Is Better??? Quinto vs Conga
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2019
- Sooooo today's video is up for discussion...
I get asked this question a lot... What do you use? A Quinto or a Conga as your main drum... So we're going to put both to the test to see which you prefer..
Of course the size of the drum, wood of the drum, and skin of the drum make a major difference on what may make one sound better than the other.... In this case... Same series drums (Meinl Kachiro Thompson Series)... Same type of heads with about the same thickness (Manito Dark Steer Skins)... And tuned to about the same note (C4)...
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Hola pana, thanks for this. There is good science to explain why the 11.75” feels/sounds better at that frequency.. the shell is just well suited to sit at C. I also play an 11.75” for all your reasons, and also at C, because that’s where it belongs. The skin, a medium/thick steer, is sitting at the perfect tension to produce a full tone and deep bass, but also quick response and dynamic/overtones as your hands demand. Conversely, the 11”, all else being equal, is sitting a little too slack to give the same feedback to your hands/ears. Same skin, same wood, smaller diameter, should probably be more comfortable at D or D#... keep up the great work!
They are both pretty close, but to choose it would be the conga because of playing surface
I agree with the first person view , that the conga has a more depth in tunning. I also like to bring Quinto up when I am doing more lead when playing Rumba. It is a matter of preference and exploring what you want. Keep sharing Eric...!
Si Erick, continúa con este grandioso trabajo de informarnos sobre el maravilloso mundo de la conga. Saludos desde el norte de Morelos México.
So true. What a huge variable of rich tones followed w a gorgeous Bass. Beautiful drums, great skins, and awesome musician.🌷
Omg. Finally a comparison vid.
We’re thinking about starting out on these drums and wanted to not only know the differences but HEAR the differences and wondered why no one did a side-by-side comparison.
Great job! Muchas gracias !!
I am new on your channel, but have looked through it for a week & love it! I enjoy playing bongos & congas & you are the best teacher I have ever seen on UA-cam ever! I have a LP Giovanni galaxy requino & tumba & three LP Aspire congas & I have tuned them to sound like a set & amazed myself! I will switch to all giovanni galaxy congas when can afford.
one of the reasons I love your tutorials is because you never sound anxious, and always sounding relaxed and breathing normally. kudos
I am close to 70 and am very old school I love the conga personally speaking, great vid chacho.
Another awesome video and amazing topic! And it’s crazy the difference 3/4 of an inch can make.
I loved the warmth the conga was giving off. I use a conga as well. Great video bruddah
Well, with you playing, both Quinto and the Conga sounds great. It's like you said, it comes to a 'player's preference' . I love what I'm hearing!
Great video! I personally love the additional bass and depth of the conga, and the slaps are thicker sounding as well! I couldn't see myself playing in a band with quinto, unless I absolutely had to.
Depending on the type of music, of course. Sometimes I use the Tumba as a main drum for the songs that are calm, jazzy, smooth and not loud alike, like bossanova or swing with brush drums companion. I play tumbao on the Tumba because it don't require bright or sharp slap sounds, but warm and mellow slap sounds with the low open tone, so the quinto and/or conga are secondary and play the open tones only. Cheers! ;)
Something that I always use to Wonder
Thank U Sir!!
You are extremely talented and sound good on both drums.
Awesome vid Bro, well done! I guess I'm old school so I do prefer the quinto as my main, but like you said it is a preference thing. Anyway keep up the great work as always!
I have no preference. New sub and I appreciate your joy! Thanks and Blessings!!!
Excellent Brother!
Conga definitely !! Thanks
Dude the sound was beautiful bro for both
Eric ,
I've only been trying to play for about two years with a quinto. After hearing both, I like the conga over the Quinto. The quinto appears to have a high pitch. Of course my opinion ! Thanks for the tuner App. ! I'm going try it this week.
Very nice video ,,, Congratulations for your playing ! When you started simple rythms I did prefer the tuba BUT when you started those difficult fast ones I preffered the Quinto ! Iam not a drum expert but this is just my impression ! Thanks for uploading .
Great video!!!! Gracias
Love the content my brother. I alway felt the quinto gave a hardware-harmonic like sound, which is why always use as an accent drum if I'm playing by myself. But then again sometimes you gotta break ruttin and change it up so you wont get board. lol.
Even though i stoped playing the Conga for reasons, i still love to learn about them. So this video makes me realy happy😁
I use the quinto, but I really don't know what I'm doing. That's why I'm watching you. I'm just trying get the rhythms down cleanly. Thanks for sharing your talent.
Conga is, by far, the best for the marcha
Both sounding great and loving your playing! The conga sounded clearer but I quite liked the open tones on the quinto. Bass tones really good on both. Difficult to really choose and I'm actually using a requinto as lead mainly due to having troubles with both my quintos! The requinto is a little cramped to play but I do get some good slap sounds on it, usually tuned to E, with conga just hanging on in there with warped rims as I can't seem to get it in tune with even tensions no matter what I try and Tumba developing undesirable overtones that a 'sticky foot' gel pad helps eliminate. The other slightly puzzling thing is that most pairs of congas on the market are requinto and quinto...
I come from a Go-Go background so I'm torn. IMHO, the open tones of the conga are noticeably warmer, richer, and fuller. With that said, the closed slaps of the quinto are subtly crisper with the open slaps about equal between both drums. My open slaps suck and I'm always amazed how pronounced yours and other percussionists achieve that level of crispness in open slaps.
Man in GoGo them high slaps are Major!!!! Makes sense to use a Quinto!! Right on bro!
Your Awesome Bro. I do like the conga
Very interesting to listen! I hear that first time today! Greetings from Germany. Short time ago started with Bongos. Before played accordion in Germany for many tourists. Now as pensioner take time to learn other instruments!
Hi. I preferred the tone of the conga. More character imho. TY. Your channel is new to me. Great instructions and demonstrations
Nice vid. I learned from a viejito growing up and was taght to use the quinto as my main. I love the sound it gives. I do eliminate unwanted overtones by putting a single 12"*12" tile of studio foam inside of my quinto. It just stays there. Works great and still projects perfect and great tone. Try it. Thanks.
totally sick! thanks brother
Oh yeah!
It's crazy alright!😃🙏🏾
I like both of them.
Quinto has twangy sound versus the Conga,But sharper slaps that cut trough. But I always like to use 11.75 as my main choice. Thanks for the clarity.
I love the the smaller drum but playing Bomba you need a bigger drum like a conga keep up the good work always learning thank you bro
Very smooth transitions between singles/doubles and straight/dotted notes. I'm a drummer but I love playing percussion. I like having extra depth available if needed. I have a custom 5.5 x 16" stacked-shell walnut snare that's incredible. The difference here is subtle with computer speakers anyway but it's there. I can almost hear more difference in the high tone. It's much richer. I like both, but Conga. Thanks.
You made them both sound good. I prefer conga for size and more balanced tone
My favorite color is purple too! And green as well.
Your playing was awesome as usual. The conga sounded clearer than the quinto to me. I use a LP fiberglass galaxy requinto as a segundo. I find that LP drums run rather large so I use myLP Patato conga as a tumba after I tune it down.
I use an LP quito as my main drum, and a conga as my tumba as well. I just like the size of them both...it just feels comfortable.
You are very talented
really liked the vid...and loved your "free foolin around" playing man..but i think its not a fair comparison..each drum (and skin) has a certain resonance point cause of its size ..so in the same tone the conga will always sound rich in tones and the quinto better with slaps..my opinion..still as you said is all about preference and of course the style of music you are playing..thanks for all your work and your vidz
I like slaps better on my quinto, too.
I wanted to asked that Glad some else did!
I prefer the corner for the same reasons that you cited. My hands are big and I get a more Dynamic and broader range from the conga. Great video as are all the others.
Eric! My paps used to say ,(mijo el quinto es para requintear ) he was always right and if its fiberglass is even better sounds louder that's also true. My self i prefer 2 , 11.75 , one of them as my main another 11.75 conga on my left a 12 , on my right my 14 on center. They sound great. I hardly ever use the quinto. Unless is use as clave like you did in one of your tutorials. Thanks for comparation. Saludos
Using the Q is a more dualistic sound - Q sits high and the two other drums act as an opposing grounding force. Using the conga is a more centered sound - balancing between higher and lower pitches. I personally like the pitch relationship of using the Q for a dominant high sitting above the mid/low pitch relationship vs using conga which is a dominant mid sitting between high/low pitch relationship.
They both sound great, just different. If I was forced I'd pick the conga but the quinto certainly works.
I agree on Congas as main more fuller!
this video liked me a lot , saludos!
Traditionally, players used small drums tuned lower in Cuba.
I get that. My detuned quinto sounds great for the tres golpes part. Might the quality of the skin but the slaps and muffles are too easy to articulate. If only i had 9,5inch quinto for the actual quinto part.
Thank s bro all the same reason s agree Conga luv!
Definitely! Conga 4 me. Versatility. Quinto suited for group playing or campana!
Hey Eric...thanks for this video, buddy. I love it when you do things like this! Just one question...the two heads are different shades. Does this mean they are different thicknesses, and of so, wouldn't they have different tones?
Thanks for a reply, and keep up the fantastic work!!
Great question!!! The thickness of the skin will definitely make a difference in the tone... The shade doesn't reflect the thickness... it "may" effect the tone... again "may", but not really... The skin I had on the Conga before was about the same thickness as this one and they give off just about the same tone... The quinto does have a slightly thinner skin but very slightly...
Thanks for the explanation, Eric. As always, you're the answer man for all of my conga questions!!
I currently have a requinto, quinto and conga! I need to purchase a 12.5 tumba next!
Just found your videos, I play on our praise team at church and very much not in a latin style. I've been playing for several years and I'm self taught. I'll be using some of your tips to care for my 3 drums, and look for more of your stuff to help me further my playing skills. I came from playing a drum kit for a long time, so I do use my smallest (quinto?) drum for accents that the snare normally makes and the largest (tumbadoro?) for the bass drum accents although I have noticed that the open sound on almost all of them is very close to the same note regardless of tuning. I have beginner drums with stock heads. To complete the description of my style - everything else is syncopation. I love the warmth that they bring to everything that we play. I would welcome any tips that you have or links to other videos in particular. My two issues at the top of my list are 1) does humidity always have to change my tuning? It's always a week between my time with the drums. 2) I'm 54 and when I play a song that requires a lot of open bass sounds on the big drum(12"?) I always get a lot of pain in my right wrist, which is the one that does that beat. Any recommendations? Thanks
Nice dark color skins.
I also love to use 11.75" Conga as my main drum compared to 11" Quinto because I love the body sound & the bass sound is so clear...
The overtone? If I'm playing modern songs (Pop, Rock), Quinto is the best especially if it's tuned in Eb...
If I'm playing Jazz or Ballad, I prefer Conga especially if it's tuned in C...
YESS!!!
Great stuff as usual!
I was wondering if you could suggest some possible tunings. I’ve tried using some of the configurations from your video about tuning but I only have a quinto, conga, and tumba (LP performer series). I’ve been using the conga as my main but I want to try using it as the main because I want to have two congas that are at a lower tone.
Also, a problem that I have with my practicing (I don’t have a teacher) is that I’m not sure whether or not I’m doing an open slap or just a loud open... do you have some advice for this?
Thanks for doing so much for the percussion community, it really is incredible :)
Eric,
Thanks for the love on my question brother.
I watch your vids several times a week in case I missed something.
I have replaced my heads with Remo Fiberskyn. Now that I see what drums your playing with. I understand why I’m not happy with the tuning of my qunito after watching the video comparison. What do you tune your conga and two tumbas too? They have a great sound !!
I think no matter what them skins make them both sound awesome. I love the conga but the quinto is a little bit more crisp. But I guess it's what you want to play with that day. Once again thank for the inspiration.
a nice pairing: requinto + super tumba. With thick natural steer.
Would have liked to see you use the Quinto and Conga with two other drums and then hear the difference. I think they both sound good but I'll bet there is a more noticeable difference when played with other drums. Just an opinion. You know I am one of your biggest fans so am pleased with all of your tests, videos, patterns, etc.
Conga I’ll prefer on my set as main. Thanks
Conga provides a bit more low end for the bass notes. I'm like you, Eric, I prefer the conga if I'm playing a single drum.
I was recently given a refurbished Quinto that belonged to my dad Jerry Gonzalez 30 years ago. It was in his friend's storage for a long time. I am trying to become familiar with quinto sound.
Can u plz make a video about your life like how old are u or what’s u work on wher you are from
Hola Eric, en mi humilde opinión, no importa cual eligas después que le sometas bien y buenas manos como en vuestro caso, y esos cueros que están nítidos se escucharán muy bien sin importar el género that you choice, great interaction between hands and skins, well done coléga.....
i like the sound that came out of the conga the sound was deep and richer than the sound produced out of the quinto .. that is preference on your part you feel more confident on the conga so your playing was better on the conga..
One or two of those lugs on the quinto is sharp, but these were surprising results to me. I'm thinking the heads are bound to be a variable in this as well. Imma go check this out on my steer heads. On a somewhat related note, I am thinking of adding a Gon Bops setup as a second set, and noticed they have the super tumba size which means each drum in a 4 drum set is uniquely sized. Do you double up congas or tumbas for a setup like yours? Thanks as always for the upload, my dude...
I normally double up on Tumbas.
great vid! I use a conga as main drum, then a tumbadora at my right side and quinto to my left side (I´m right handed) I use the quinto most of the time to play ostinatos (kind of "bata" style) if I´m space limited I switch to bongos instead of quinto. Gracias hermano!
I all ways wanted to know that, great video and thanks!
I agree!
I prefer , the range of the conga . It is more beefy . I use quinto when I am playing more folkloric . If i am playing with other instruments then conga is my preference. Plus who what's to travel with a lot of drums. As always nice work.
Yo Eric
Both Quinto And Conga are good men
Their sound superb solid amigo
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Both sound great but I think the conga has a rounder mellower feel. If you're using 3 drums would you use conga tumba and supertumba? I guess you could use 2 congas ok? I used a requinto as the main with a quinto and tumba for quite a while.....I like open slaps on the requinto in particular. I really enjoyed your playing on this video
Thank you for the video. What would be the best conga for capoeira vs Quinto or Conga? Thank you.
I knew i was right about this alway s loved the Conga more!
I may not know as much as you guys, but growing up, I always heard that the quinto is better in riffing in talking to other congas sound when having a conga jam session. Yes I'm from planet earth
Love the conga you're using in the videos (black skins). What brand are they?
The late Papa Dee Allen from War used to play a singular Conga along with bongos & timbales, that was it!
Conga sounds better, more warmth and better feel on the hands too. For me, a quinto is for a rumba, or as an additional drum to 2 or 3 other drums (if there's enough space on the stage), with the quinto tuned high for that bell effect .
Incredible how that 3/4 in. Make a big difference. I play with a Quinto as my main. But for salsa ... Conga and Tumba is the way to go... Fat sound for me. Quinto is mainly very high for rumba. Quintiar. Wow... Congrats.. On video....love it. Blessings
Conga.... my vote....am a definite beginner...🙏4 me
Great Eric! Would you use a quinto as a main drum (center) if you play batá rhythms adapted to congas or other african 6/8 rhythms? You consider it is better to keep the highest drum in the center? And last question :) If you do not have a quinto but 2 congas and a tumba..Is it possible to tune one of the congas higher than the other to replace the quinto sound without affecting the conga/skin itself? Gracias!!
Man, this is a great subject for a video! What I notice is that the quinto produces more harmonics so the C note is less "clear", although that is a very interesting effect. You got a new subscriber!
Thank you!!!! Very well said!
This is nuts but for now have to use a requinto as my main drum right now until I can get an LP Giovanni galaxy tumba & now waiting for a Quinto to come & have already a conga but I have to use it like a tumba until I can complete my LP Giovanni galaxy conga set! What you do when saving money!
Hello, where did you get your shekeres necklace this incredible !!
Very good. The conga is also my main drum. I love playing bongo, quinto, conga and tumba. With maracas, guiro and shekere they sound better,, everybody know.
I just bought a pair of pre 80s congas. 250mm and 300mm. So 9.8" and 11.8". I need to replace heads. Polish hardware, Refinish the shells etc.
I know very little about congas. But am now watching YT videos and reading stuff online. Apparently a 9.8" conga drum is actually a traditional quinto for high putched lead sounds in rumba. Only LP etc call this size a requinto in their catalog as a size guide. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. Bur apparently a small 9.8 is necessary for the high pitched lead sound in rumba. I have to go listen to older rumba recordings now to know what I am writing about.
I like roots reggae. I like funky soul beats and disco/house beats. Especially disco and house use Congas.
It will be interesting to see what these 2 drums look like after a chrome polish, new heads and sanded/refinished shells.
Hopefully I can get the popping sound out of them.
Learning patterns will be a mystical experience I am sure. I have learned 2 beginner patterns on this first day of ownership.
Keep up the good work Eric.
Greetings from New Zealand.
Thanks for the video ,now my question is most sets out there comes with quinto, conga,tumba, given you only have 1 tumba would you play on conga and tune quinto lower in A or B or would you play on the quinto ?
Great question... So yes I would still use the Conga as my main and tune the Quinto lower to be between the Tumba and Conga... and still tune the quinto in a B
Always thought you played Giovanni LP's. Didnt know you had Meinls.
Personally in regard to consistency in tonal resonance , a conga is not bending back and forth as much. The conga is consistent 100% which to me says that fellow band members can appreciate that about the conga all the way. Does the job beautifully. Love your videos
IMHO, tuning a quinto to C4 is a little wasteful, if you have a quinto it should scream those high pitch notes, "quinteando", but I'm just a newbie, what do I know 😜
Talking about newbies, the size is almost as important as the sound for us just starting to learn how to use the drum and get around doing the movements correctly, I was given the advice to start learning with a single conga just because of that, so that I don't hit myself every time I hit two base notes or when I make the closed slap, etc. And I think that's good advice, and I think I would've had a harder time learning with a quinto, so I'm already used to use the conga as my main 🤷♂️
That's great advice!!!
Quinto overall is best sound when out with the tumbadora but conga also has a place especially when in a riff or solo.
In a salsa setting for sure you have to go with a conga because it fill in more. espcially if using 2 drums. Quintos are great for soloing in a rumba for example and if your using more that say 3 drums and other music genras
During the heydays of the Salsa Revolution in the 70's & 80's a lot of the bands used a quinto and a tumbadora, along with a high pitched cowbell, and those who played 3 drums (like the late great Francisco "Papo" Clemente R.I.P.) used quinto, conga, and tumbadora. But times have changed, and congueros such as Poncho Sanchez established the use of a conga (or tres-dos) and 2 (two) tumbadoras, giving the band a richer, and fuller sound. Personally I prefer the latter, like Poncho...
Hello I would like to know if you advise me to play with two conga or a Quinto plus a conga for salsa? thank you I love what you do.
You are correct the conga has a nicer ring to it and smoother sound!
Conga but the Quinto has slightly more ring and overtone but like he mention that conga could be tuned high or low
Hey! Just found your channel, great finding haha! never tried to crank a conga up but IMHO the conga needs to have more tension in order to achive the same pitch, therefore the slap would be "easier" to get, (I think you mention that actually). The head real state is a good pont, more room for the hands!! never thught of it! plus the bass should be deeper I think.
Great topic and great channel, kudos!!
Slaps and open tones are nice on the quinto. The hiel too and bass and muted are better on the conga.
On a 12" 25 cm djembe i have more deep and more high in only 1 drum.
Conga for sure. I have the Giovanni Super Tumba tuned at D. One day soon, I’ll have conga at F# and a quinto at A.