4:19 UPDATE! I hate Ladybug once again right after seeing the FIRST episode of season five. That was faster than expected. 34:38 ANOTHER UPDATE! I found out only now that the holder of the goat miraculous is, in fact, Jewish, confirmed by Thomas Astruc himself. So, we have a Jewish superhero with horns. I don't know that much about Judaism but I'm pretty sure horns are bad. Feel free to correct me on that. Anyways, it was so much fun collaborating with Aloe for the second time. Thanks for having me here and I look forward for future business opportunities! Also, Beartooth released a new song! Yay!
When I saw your thoughts about the premiere episodes of season 5, I remember hearing your new dislike for LB. So when I watched your portion of the Collab where you said you like her, I was like "ohhh this was back before the season 5 exposure" lol Also, that's a big yikes for Nathaniel. And once again! Thank YOU for being an awesome sport Cyrus and so patient with me and my part. And thank you for agreeing to be a part of my video! I know your future videos will be great! 😁✨👍
as a jew im pretty sure in the bible it says "Ayo if you make a bull with gold you will fucking die you piece of shit" so I think you're right about the horns thing. *Love your content dude and this colab might be the best thing to ever exist.*
@@TheArtisticAloubell id say my least favorite miraculous design for the heroes is definitely a tie between zoey and marinette. I would have loved if zoey wear a different design to go for more of her cutesy asthetic. Aka giving her some fluffage on her neck,wrists and ankles the braid is eh. But wish it was changed to more of curly drill ringlets. And wish they made more of a diamond asthetic to contrast chloe's heart shape on her chest. Alya also had the heart thing. So zoey having a sorta diamond asthetic is the perfect foil. For ladybug V1. They didn't incorporate her personality at all. Meanwhile the others have their personality incorporated into the design. They should have had her personality incorporated into the design. Ex: adrian having anime references,alya being creative, and even mayura actually having a mature sense of fashion.
@@floofycupkim1197 well in the first episode Marinette didn’t wanna be ladybug. And she didn’t care about how’d it look like and probably went just simple since she didn’t wanna be ladybug in the first place. And the costumes are based on what they want it to look like. The costume probably would look a lot cooler and better if present ladybug actually came up with a detailed but simple and decent design.
@@arabelle9859 the thing is, even if that is the case, it’s a bad design. It’s very out of character for person who wants to be a fashion designer. I mean, think about it, even if she didn’t want to be a hero, wouldn’t she think of the greatest outfit because she wants to be a designer and NOT a hero? I feel like because her desire would be so against being a hero, it would be strong in the other direction. And tbh, even with the power ups, her design isn’t that good. Could’ve been way better. Why the heck didn’t she try to make herself look better once she became accustomed to it?
Honestly, for a fashion designer, I would think that he would do better with not only his costume but with the villain's costumes. Will you be doing the villain costumes as well in the future?
@Séréna MALIN I would think it would be Hawkmoth who did it. If it was the victims who made the costumes themselves then half of them lack creativity. Sides, Hawkmoth makes the villains, it would make sense for him to create the costumes since he gave them their villain names.
(No shade on😆) He only gives them the powers again and they manifest in the person’s personality just like the heroes how the way cat noir wanted to be manifested in his costume!😄
@@TheArtisticAloubell ah alright. In your opinion, do you think S5 will get any better? Honestly, this year for miraculous has been something else. Especially since the miraculous Bible for S5 got leaked. This year is just not Miraculous' year.
Honestly I think there's a point towards Queen Bee identity being easy to recognize. Chloe wanted to be a known superhero, so hiding her identity would be pointless to her. Something fashionable but easily recognizable fits her goals pretty well. So even if it doesn't hide her identity well, I'd give it 5 stars for practicality taking into consideration the characters motivations and ideals.
It disappointing that the main character that wants to be a fashion design has the most terrible costume designs. It feels like Marinette has no creativity especially when some of her combined miraculous costumes was taken from other users. Like the unsymmetrical costume when she's Dragon Bug like Ryuko, the spiral ponytail when she's Lady Bee like Queen Bee, and little wings on her feet when she' Pegabug like Pegasus, and also his name. She really didn't even need to be a Pegasus or have a Pegasus theme, it's a horse miraculous not a Pegasus.
Yes also don’t forget about the hair style they missed and forgot to Change others in the past have said ladybug would look different without ponytails in hero form.
Her fashion is pretty basic, still cute, but still basic which I dont mind since I'm pretty basic most of the time but she's a fashion designer. Shouldn't she have a more distinct style? More unique?
How to make Marinette unable to be recognised: 1. Make her hair black 2. Make her hair down/ lengthen it and put it in a different hairstyle. 3. Make her eyes lighter/darker.
I am just like you dude but I will return to watching miraculous when I just don't find anything worth my time because my time has more interesting things to be killed by .
Also Monarchs outfit changes again in season 5 as u can see in an trailer and ... Oh boy I didn't think they could make an worse design than Monach v.1 🤯
Monarch's outfit is trash. Whenever I see him I want to hit him. Also isn't Gabriel supposed to be one of the best fashion designer in the world. Maybe it was just a bluff😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤔😱😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do wish the styles were less basic than usual bodysuits, especially the cliche "black cat" look; that's why I love Cat Walker's look. I do wish Hawkmoth's outfit was more fashionable or avante-garde.
Correct me if I'm wrong: Black cats are associated with negative topics e.g bad luck, so it makes sense that the destruction miraculous is a black cat, no? Just like how ladybugs are luck.
I absolutely LOVE how you two have such opposite views of Pigella. It's almost like "THE GREAT DEBATE, OF THE SKIRT." except y'know. There's no debate, you two just casually mention your views, respect one another, and move along... that's honestly more adult than most adults XD
Fun fact: Some concept art actually shows queen bee with bee wings. Idk why they discarded them, probably because it felt too busy with the furry details on the concept design but they got rid of the fur too. I do wish they kept the wings but her design still looks great.
I’ve seen fanart that gives her a jacket with an awesome looking fuzzy collar. It looked so good and really suited Chloe’s “rich girl becomes a superhero” vibe.
My favourite is definetly Mayura! In a sea of skin-tight spandex for costumes, her elegant dress really makes her stand out. I love this feminine yet dangerous vibe she is giving off.
Just a thought I had watching this when you got to Carapace: Why did neither of the Snake holders have a hood? Sass is a cobra, right? So why not? Hides the identity well and they could have fun with the concept. Have a section that's colored oddly at the front and can be pulled downward, only for it to be a heat-based vision filter? Like the Halloween costumes that have material you can see out of but not into. Plus it would fit the snake theme and just seems cool to me.
I like to think the reason Marc changed his looks so much as rooster bold is due to him as a writer knowing all the “hero looks like their civilian form” tropes and all the problems that come from it, so he avoided that from happening
I honestly find it odd hawk moth, someone who rarely comes out of his lair, mask has better identity protection then the two main character's based costumes, don't get me wrong I love hawk moth look (even though I don't like he's villain name) and it's good that the villain's mask protects his identity but I just find it odd, love the video have a great day and stay safe 😁🧣
Off topic, but this video reminded me of this opinion of mine- *Chloe should've had the Rooster Miraculous* Hear me out! Roosters have a prideful posture recognized in them and the species as a whole is more vicious as Chicken keepers can tell stories on how they needed to hide away injured chickens because their blood would make their roommates ravenous for them. I felt like the Bee was only given to her for the play-on-words that came with "Queen Bee" and would've totally make sense if she had a character redemption. Rooster makes sense if she was never supposed to have one because: -Bees sting, but only when they need to. They nurture and care for nature, sesuquebtly caring for others. -Roosters/chickens are vicious, uppity, territorial. Like, it just makes sense for Chloe to have been a rooster if she was never going to have a redemption arc!!
You and Cyrus have very different temperaments, but oddly enough that's what makes this video so entertaining. I think the two of you work well together. (here is me hoping for more future collabs between the both of you) 🥋
My favourite outfit/costume is probably Mayura's... its so pretty, it kinda portrays really well with her resemblance. And I agree that Ladybug's outfit is absolutely terrible and dull, it is very distasteful (unpleasant) and I was not pleased with the results. And that's all I have to say, I really enjoyed this collaboration! Have an amazing day.
The reason Gabriel didn't disapprove of his mask is because no one sees him, all day he just sits in his room waiting for someone to get mad, because only one person in Paris can get mad at a time. That's the rule.
Just thought of something fun they could have done. Imagine if Ladybug's outfit changes through the series alot more often since Marinette can't decide on what look she wants to go with. I can see her struggle with getting a final look when having so many ideas as a fashion designer. Would have been cute and cool to see
Well he reminds me of THAT kind of fashion designer, you know? The one that gives the model a trash bag and pink rain boots to wear and thinks it's a work of art
I think that the bad names for the heroes make a tiny bit of sense, given that they're usually coming up with them on the spot. Like, I'm doing a Miraculous au for one of my hyperfixations and I had to go on a 15 minute Wikipedia scavenger hunt to find a good name. AND I had two other people helping me out. Props to them for at least finding a functional alias. Alya as Scarabella and how she struggled to come up with anything is the most realistic tbh.
fun fact: in the original anime ladybugs costume only had spots on the body and not the limbs, and the ribbons were alot longer too, it’s small but changes alot. The ribbons could have been the eye candy too ladybugs boring costume and the limited spots are less busy. idk why they changed it :/
=O I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT. I had no idea the PV Ladybug didn't have spots on her limbs! That does look a lot better! The 2D design looks better in general...actually. It's still plain, but somehow more charming. The ribbons are excellent too. I hate that they shortened them for the cgi show >__
When I look at Pigella the fact that she's so different makes me think that she's the only who got the memo that this was a magical girl show. It still isnt good by any metric, not enough to be a magical girl but too much for a superhero, but it can be rationalised.
I think that ladybugs costume would have looked fine with just the spots in 2D. It would have been understandable to not want to animate a complex costume (however I still think some black areas would be a nice break for the eye.) BUT because it's 3D animation they could have done more. And I get that one of the reason they moved to 3D was bc some people were getting motions sickness or something from the spots, but you would probably know to level up the costume bc it's 3D. At least make it slightly more appealing and interesting, as you can do that now!
Yeah, for some reason I do like her look in 2D more. She looked great in the PV! The longer antennae really also sold the look for me. It was elegantly simplistic there wile in the canon CGI show...it's insultingly plain. It's so weird!
@@TheArtisticAloubell YEAH! And I've noticed they kinda tried to replicate the exaggerated expressions, but in a 3D translation. It just would have looked so much more natural and fun in 2D. I also love that Marinettes ahoge took the shape of a heart when she was around Adrien, it was so cute! And yes, I totally agree, the long antennae look better. (Lol I always kinda thought that they kinda looked like ladybug wings on the back of her buns.) Also, another thing is that it would probably be better for her silhouette, having the longer antennae that is. It makes the fighting scenes entertaining and expressive. It's to bad they made them short in the 3D. But I guess it would have taken alot more work to animate them, as they would be like animating another arm and leg. (Thanks so much for the heart btw, I love your content!)
I also wanna say. Most of these designs would look SO much better in a different art style. I think the fact that the series is animated in this style + being 3D majorly affects the look of the fits.
I feel like I'm the only one who sees Zoey's mask giving her a unibrow and eye bags. I just see her design and am like "Poor girl, they only made you replace Chloe by giving you such a bad-looking mask?"Just change her eyes to yellow. or do what they did with Chat's eyes and just make it yellow. Then just make the mask all black.
Some of these designs look like an amateur designer had 20 seconds to design the outfit.. Also, can we just appreciate how much work was put in these videos? I feel like this quality needs to be addressed more 😊😊 👘👘 Edit: this was about the last comment I expected to blow up..
While Lady Noire has a great outfit. Her attitude makes me want to get Flowey from Undertale to get her to feel guilty about treating Misterbug poorly. Miss Hound. The beret is such a nice callback to Season 1 for Sabrina. Continuity! Cat Noir. Simple yet good enough to keep him from being known as Adrien. Ladybug. So plain and boring. Pegabug. BURN IT!!!! Queen Bee. QUEEN!!!!! Vesperia. Her name scared me when I first found out that was her superhero name. I have a really bad fear of wasp. But her design is pretty good. So it's definitely not awful. Mayura. Gorgeous! King Monkey. George. George. George of the jungle. It's a really good design for Kim. Rena Rouge. Iconic. And great design. Carapace. Definitely still love the design. Turtle power! Polymouse. So cute and so fitting for Mylene! The real mouse! Multimouse. OP Marinette blah blah blah. Fine design. Too OP. Not the real mouse. Minatorex. Could've been better. But still better than anything Ladybug could come up with. Ryuko. You are the Dragon Queen! Badass and mean! But still amazing! Blunt but true to who you are. Oh yeah! You can fight! You can strive. Having the time of your life! See that girl. Watch that scene. Seeing the Dragon queen! Viperion. Chill snake and respect! Pigella. So kawaii!!!!!!!!! Purple Tigress. Amazing and badass! Caprikid. Scribblenauts unlimited superhero!!!! Yes!!!! Rooster Bold. Amazing design! Not so great power. Ladybee: Ahhh! The bright yellow hurts my eyes!!!! Aspik. He's honestly a great design. I do wish he had hair. But it's still a great design. Snake Noir. Awesome!!!! Hawkmoth. Not terrible. Jade turtle. Not a bad design at all. Pretty good actually. Misterbug. Badass and trying his best. Slay!!!!!! Dragonbug. Great design. Can't beat Ryuko though. Pegasus. Pretty great design. Scarabella. Best Ladybug design! Shadowmoth. Ummmm. It's something. Yep. Something. Shadow Noir. KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!! Multifox. Eh. Multinoir. Meh. Multibug. Ew. Cat walker. Fabulous! Flairmidable. Honestly not a bad design. Plain. But still pretty good. Rena Furtive. Love the colors so much!!!!! Pennybug. I hate it. Spoilers for season 5 below. Do not read unless you want to know. Rabbit Noir. Precious cutie pie! He looks amazing!!!!! Monarch. This is somewhat an improvement. Kitty Noire. Hope it's good. Felix with the peacock miraculous. Hope it's good.
Do you know what's ironic? The ladybug outfit was so hard to animate because its just spots. It would have been easier to animate if they'd made the costume better
22:47 "If nathaniel had gotten the rooster one there would be too many warm colours" Says Alloubell, as Rooster-bold has his hair red to match the rooster's comb.
Okay YEAH...BUT at least with Marc he has black in his hair as well to break up the monotony. XD Plus the shade of red used goes better with the colors of the outfit.
King Monkey is inspired by Sun Wukong, a Chinese god/demon in mythology. I only know it because that goddamn monkey plagued my childhood lol. Also Cat Walker is a magnificent design, I will stand by that until the day I die. I only dislike how greasy his hair looks.
I feel like the main issue is with the logic of the show and not if the characters are recognisable in their hero costumes. Because it’s clear that the show excepts you to suspend your disbelief. And that’s fine , a lot of superhero stories do that. But then in the same god damn episode they’ll recognise a hot pink villain as that guy they saw at the shop. And the show completely goes back on the rules it set up. And now your suspension of disbelief is broken because they can’t seem to be consistent with their rules . Which just makes a lot of the identity stuff seem really stupid
As a fan of Sun Wukong/the monkey king, i must say that i'm disappointed that there's a hero who is called "King Monkey" and it's just... a side character, not even talked about ._. Bro, Sun Wukong is the definition of OP, why have i just noticed that there's a hero clearly inspired by him now?
I just realized, magical shenanigans wouldn't work to hide people's identities anyway because in Frighteningale (or however it's spelled), Marinette and Adrien are hesitant to wear Ladybug and Chat Noir costumes as though people might recognize them, and that's never addressed in the show
10:52 "It's not that unique". I've seen Hawk Moth compared to Team Fortress 2's Spy a lot. Aside from both being French, their suits are fairly close. Though I do feel with just a shift in colors, you'd get The Mask, but I also see a bit of GI Joe's Destro in his silver form-fitting headwear.
I like how Queen Bee has a more fabulous looking suit while Vesperia has a more hero looking suit. This is because Chloe only cares about her appearance and look as a hero while Vesperia actually wants to be a hero from the kindness of her heart
THIS WHOLE TIME I WAS WAITING FOR WHAT THEY WERE GONNA SAY ABOUT JULEKA, I AM NOT DISPLEASED. I LOVE HER SO MUCH AND SHE LOOKS GREAT😭😭💕💕 But Cyrus is right they really should've given her a different name, THAT ASIDE, 5/5 ON BOTH FRONTS. 🎀✨
How is marinette and gabriel supposed to be aspiring fashion designers/fashions designers yet the outfits they design and the costume in their respective superhero and villan form looks either so bland and too much going on(espically pennybug and monarch). Mr bug has the best costume out of all the ladybugs. Ladybug is too simple and alyas outfit is too much going on.Vesperia outift is horrible and it represents a wasp which.is weird since its a bee miraculous not a wasp.
Great to see you two collab again. The last time you did was phenomenal. I was especially a fan of your Ephermal rewrite. Also did you know MLB plans to have TWELVE SEASONS NOW???!!!!!
These MLB writers are stupid. No one likes a long boring story with rushed development and streched plot lines. That makes me feel they should have ended this show in S1/S2
@@Wtfiswrongwithme............ idea: what if Season 7 is where Hawkmoth is officially defeated once and for all. Then in Season 8, Ladybug and Cat Noir go to NYC. They hang out with the heroes there, Eagle, etc, and fight other villains. Maybe, we can get some development from the people there, while having some what of a good reason to make another season. Maybe add a fun arc as well. Then same case can go for Shanghai, since I actually want to know more about Fei and Lady Dragon.
Personally I love Chloé's outfit as it just for me looks great (can be improved though) and the bee astetic just sells me. Cat Nior I actually loved his style and honestly saw him as having male catwoman style. I do get the blonde hair does clash with the suit though. Kagami I just love her dragon look.
I always thought Chloe looked fine until my girlfriend watched an episode with me and said she looked like a middleaged mother coming to pick up her kids LMFAO
I like Vesperia's costume... Because it resembles a hornet more than a bee or a wasp, which perfectly fits for Zoe's character: useless at best, annoying at worst. And are KNOWN for killing bees.
I know Felix's peacock miraculous design wasnt a thing when this video was out, but its my ABSOLUTE favourite design!!! Its just so good with the hood and the eyes like 😩👌
I think the problem with suits that barely hide an identity is that it's become an expected staple in these types of franchises that most people just live with or ignore it, while the franchise itself(as Miraculous does) use magic o explain why no one can see. Sailor Moon was a problem- one early episode has her hide from her brother out of fear of being recognized but they forgot about that shortly, so much so that no amount of merchandise or video games sold all over Tokyo are every compared to their civilian forms. Remember He-Man? Recent takes make Adam look different but back in the day no one noticed. But it goes back as far as Superman, where there was rarely an effort to make Clark & Superman look different in media. Chris Reeve was probably the first real attempt by anyone to put in the effort. The George Reeves TV series was especially bad at portraying the 2 personas as almost identical. W.I.T.C.H. was a notable exception- despite their bodies physically aging a few years, they were easily recognized. Every villain knew who they were as did their allies. They were just fortunate enough to not get noticed by the media so their presence was generally a secret at least on Earth(though the season 2 ending suggest some private firm or government agency knows & is out to recruit or use them- shame we will never get a season 3). In the Halloween episode they change out of necessity, using the excuse they're just fairy costumes & their parents can still recognize them.
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm okay with the superhero form barely (or not at all) hiding their identity. It's super common with magical girl and superhero stories. MY PROBLEM with Miraculous is that its rules on how this works in canon is too wishy washy and fluid. What I mean is, they say one thing, but then contradict themselves. If the established rule in the show is that the heroes cannot be recognized due to magic, then there should be no reason why Alya sees a resemblance between Cat Noir and Adrien. There should be no reason why Adrien can recognize Ladybug's voice when Mari is in civilian form. It's things like that that bug me. It breaks ones suspension of disbelief. BUT purely for the sake of this video, I was interested in seeing how many heroes' outfits would pass in our world as good disguises vs the ones that wouldn't. I hope all of that makes sense! Also, in Sailor Moon, at least in the manga, its explained that while we as an audience see the girls looking exactly the same as their senshi forms, to the civilians and such, they look more alien, so that's why they aren't recognized.
I love how you both have different opinions on certain outfits instead of the same option, it's a nice touch that makes the video feel less repetitive and more fresh.
Rooster Bold’s design is probably my favourite miraculous transformation. I may be biased because I love Marc but I think it’s just amazing. It works in a similar way to Julica’s in the sense that it’s so unlike him that people won’t think twice about it being Marc, yet it suits him so well. I’m a big fan of ‘fancier’ more grand fashion, and I think the design is unbelievably fashionable in general. With a few changes it’s practically vogue cover ready. The hair and eye colour change, the mask, and the tighter clothes then he is usually wearing just works amazingly in a secret identity situation. Also comparing it to Ladybug’s original design, I think it shows just how good the designs can get when there’s enough thought and energy put into them. It’s 100% a 5/5 on both scales for me :]
It's really hard to follow a review of an outfit when you pop it on screen for a second and then make it disappear while you're actually speaking about the parts that you like. Thank you to Cyrus for actually flashing the stock images of the outfits up while he was speaking about them 👍
I'm aware of the mistake I made. I was worried at the time about there being too much happening on screen to keep the picture up. But I hear the critique loud and clear. Thank you!
I was watching this and I realized. Gabriel did not make use of the rooster, the bull, or his normal butterfly miraculous in season 5. OMG. he literally still has a chance to save his wife.
I'm sorry, but the point of a superhero costume is to HIDE her identity. If is instantly recognizable in a show that is all about that secret identity... well...than we have a problem. For examples of shows outside of this that make the character recognizable but different, I suggest designs like Cyber 6 (from Cyber 6), or Miss Martian (Young Justice).
I agree that we should recognize Mari, but have to make the superhero disguise difficult for others to not recognize. Spiderman's costume is a full body suit and mask with the designs of webs and spiders. Simplistic and recognizable for us to know, but harder for others to figure out.
Hello! I kind of agree if we make concessions for the sake of simplicity, including the fact that masks / glasses / haircuts hide identities as effectively as a helmet. But I seem to recall the main reason was for the hero to be easy to draw / animate. I can almost imagine a Ladybug suit without the dots, that would be even easier! Instead of Ladybug she would be called... Scarlet Lady? :-D Great web comic, I recommend it!
I'm not a fashion expert, and I don't really watch Miraculous Ladybug as much as I used to, but I have to admit that I like Polymouse's outfit. I like the way that Polymouse's fat body gives you the resemblance of a cute real life wittle mouse!
@@watchadoinl like, you can change the hair style, that's completely fine, but why change it to such an ugly color, imagine how much better it would look if it was black
Omg I had never seen Pigella's concept art, but they're all amazing and incomparable to the one we got! My favorite is the ping and white one with blond hair, it's adorable!
I respect both of your opinions, but in my personal opinion, I think that the Pegabug suit looks great. The gradient on the leg area and arm are isn't so bad. It fits well because it was based on a cyldesdale horse's legs. The horseshoe isn't necessary sure, but it looks cute and I think it was meant to have a bolo tie motif since horses are typically popular in western areas. The wings on the feet, I'll admit are a bot excessive, but still look okay enough. The pony tail is cute too. I dont have a problem with the shades since it fits with the Miraculous, but I'm not sure if it's even possible to use the Horse Miraculous via wearing it on your shirt. Honestly less spots on the limbs would have worked more favors. Despite the flaws, I liked it a lot. The white on her chest was used perfectly, because it resembled a horses underbelly. I feel like Cyrus was over reacting over the Pegabug suit, but I can respect his opinion. I find it hard to get mad at that. Plus, I have an affinity for cyldesdale horses, and I think they are adorable. (Note: I'm not saying that I like the Pegabug suit because of my clydesdale horse bias. I acknowledge that there are some flaws in the design, but I still enjoy it.)
I think is how the gradient with the polka dots make it look too busy. Which happens. Polka dots is a busy design and mixing it with a gradient makes the design look too much and uncanny
@@dcscruz2970 Hmm... I took another glance and I see your point. The polka dots could have gone to the forearms and thighs. But I still like the design. I can acknowledge the flaws but I still enjoy the suit design nonetheless.
23:58 okay his name is Luka, and you have to remember his name because he's a kind person and a good character (at least to me). Honestly though, I know Cyrus is right about Viperion in terms of a lack of a secret identity, but personally didn't mind because I think his hairstyle fit the style for a snake miraculous holder, also his highlights is already very close to the costume color. So while Cyrus is right, I'm kind of glad they didn't change his hair/hair color.
Missed opportunity for them to make Ladybug specifically 7 spotted ladybug to represent the main 7 miraculouses... or incorporate it into the design some way like having only 7 dots on her back (just an idea).
Personally, Catwalker’s disguise is literally just Adrien with greasy and slightly greenish blond hair As for Pennybug, its a combination of PEgasus buNNY and LadyBUG
Eyyyy, im glad that both you and Cyrus contribute on this video, i hope i can see both of ya colab in the future And i do agree that the MLB costume designes are.... a mix bag, some good some bad, and some UTERLY RIDICULOUS, and i apreciate the time watching this video And is pizza time 🍕
Most super hero costumes work at hiding the wearers identity because people don't think in duel identities. Only someone like Lila who lives multiple identities can see through the mask!
4:19 UPDATE! I hate Ladybug once again right after seeing the FIRST episode of season five. That was faster than expected.
34:38 ANOTHER UPDATE! I found out only now that the holder of the goat miraculous is, in fact, Jewish, confirmed by Thomas Astruc himself. So, we have a Jewish superhero with horns. I don't know that much about Judaism but I'm pretty sure horns are bad. Feel free to correct me on that.
Anyways, it was so much fun collaborating with Aloe for the second time. Thanks for having me here and I look forward for future business opportunities! Also, Beartooth released a new song! Yay!
Cyrus. All I can say about the second episode of season 5 is that Adrien feels like an imposter. More than ever.
When I saw your thoughts about the premiere episodes of season 5, I remember hearing your new dislike for LB. So when I watched your portion of the Collab where you said you like her, I was like "ohhh this was back before the season 5 exposure" lol
Also, that's a big yikes for Nathaniel.
And once again! Thank YOU for being an awesome sport Cyrus and so patient with me and my part. And thank you for agreeing to be a part of my video! I know your future videos will be great! 😁✨👍
Why do you hate Ladybug again?
I got an idea for you I think you should rate the miraculous transformations by the way you missed Rabbit Noir
as a jew im pretty sure in the bible it says "Ayo if you make a bull with gold you will fucking die you piece of shit" so I think you're right about the horns thing. *Love your content dude and this colab might be the best thing to ever exist.*
Aloubell: I love this design. It’s so cute and fits really well!
Cyrus: This looks like shit.
Lol
Cyrus: Love Sailor Moon
Aloubell: Meh ;-;
@@TheArtisticAloubell id say my least favorite miraculous design for the heroes is definitely a tie between zoey and marinette. I would have loved if zoey wear a different design to go for more of her cutesy asthetic. Aka giving her some fluffage on her neck,wrists and ankles the braid is eh. But wish it was changed to more of curly drill ringlets. And wish they made more of a diamond asthetic to contrast chloe's heart shape on her chest. Alya also had the heart thing. So zoey having a sorta diamond asthetic is the perfect foil.
For ladybug V1. They didn't incorporate her personality at all. Meanwhile the others have their personality incorporated into the design. They should have had her personality incorporated into the design. Ex: adrian having anime references,alya being creative, and even mayura actually having a mature sense of fashion.
@@floofycupkim1197 well in the first episode Marinette didn’t wanna be ladybug. And she didn’t care about how’d it look like and probably went just simple since she didn’t wanna be ladybug in the first place. And the costumes are based on what they want it to look like. The costume probably would look a lot cooler and better if present ladybug actually came up with a detailed but simple and decent design.
@@arabelle9859 the thing is, even if that is the case, it’s a bad design. It’s very out of character for person who wants to be a fashion designer. I mean, think about it, even if she didn’t want to be a hero, wouldn’t she think of the greatest outfit because she wants to be a designer and NOT a hero? I feel like because her desire would be so against being a hero, it would be strong in the other direction.
And tbh, even with the power ups, her design isn’t that good. Could’ve been way better. Why the heck didn’t she try to make herself look better once she became accustomed to it?
Aloubell - Ah, I hate the skirt on Pigella, it so bad
Cyrus - I love that skirt on Pigella, it’s the best part on her
XD
I can hear Rarity screaming at the bad fashion in miraculous.
𝐅𝐫😂(;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)
Lol
@@TheArtisticAloubell 𝚁𝚊𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚢 𝚖𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚔𝚗𝚘𝚠 𝚏𝚊𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚙𝚘𝚗𝚒𝚎𝚜 (𝚊𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚝 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚑𝚞𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚖) 𝚋𝚞𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚎 𝚔𝚗𝚘𝚠𝚜 𝚏𝚊𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚋𝚎𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚗 𝙻𝚊𝚍𝚢𝚋𝚞𝚐
Me too
And gold slapping the outfits
(Gold from itsfunneh)
Honestly, for a fashion designer, I would think that he would do better with not only his costume but with the villain's costumes. Will you be doing the villain costumes as well in the future?
The villains choose their outfit themselves, it’s their personality manifesting into a villain costume (like the heroes)
@Séréna MALIN I would think it would be Hawkmoth who did it. If it was the victims who made the costumes themselves then half of them lack creativity. Sides, Hawkmoth makes the villains, it would make sense for him to create the costumes since he gave them their villain names.
(No shade on😆) He only gives them the powers again and they manifest in the person’s personality just like the heroes how the way cat noir wanted to be manifested in his costume!😄
No current plans on rating the villains. My main goal was just to cover the miraculous users ^_^
@@TheArtisticAloubell ah alright. In your opinion, do you think S5 will get any better? Honestly, this year for miraculous has been something else. Especially since the miraculous Bible for S5 got leaked. This year is just not Miraculous' year.
Honestly I think there's a point towards Queen Bee identity being easy to recognize. Chloe wanted to be a known superhero, so hiding her identity would be pointless to her. Something fashionable but easily recognizable fits her goals pretty well. So even if it doesn't hide her identity well, I'd give it 5 stars for practicality taking into consideration the characters motivations and ideals.
Fair enough! ^_^
Mhm!
Plus the outfit takes after ladybug’s like Chloe herself so I see this outfit as thematic perfection!
It disappointing that the main character that wants to be a fashion design has the most terrible costume designs. It feels like Marinette has no creativity especially when some of her combined miraculous costumes was taken from other users. Like the unsymmetrical costume when she's Dragon Bug like Ryuko, the spiral ponytail when she's Lady Bee like Queen Bee, and little wings on her feet when she' Pegabug like Pegasus, and also his name. She really didn't even need to be a Pegasus or have a Pegasus theme, it's a horse miraculous not a Pegasus.
Yes also don’t forget about the hair style they missed and forgot to Change others in the past have said ladybug would look different without ponytails in hero form.
That's why i don't like marinette
@@Yun_er tbh it's the animators fault
Her fashion is pretty basic, still cute, but still basic which I dont mind since I'm pretty basic most of the time but she's a fashion designer. Shouldn't she have a more distinct style? More unique?
@@hungrywarnergaming5263 it's the people who designed the outfit not the animators
How to make Marinette unable to be recognised:
1. Make her hair black
2. Make her hair down/ lengthen it and put it in a different hairstyle.
3. Make her eyes lighter/darker.
That would have worked!
Honsety yeah but her hair could have been a much lighter blue color like a sky blue but thatd just me
@@edengeekydork that’s a nice idea and the sky blue would spark a bit of life into the outfit.
@@gailasprey7787 mhm complementing her eye color and the red on her outfit
And don't forget about Ladybug's outfit being better.
I don't watch Miraculous anymore, but the picture of Hawkmoth's new outfit is hilarious. 👗
I am just like you dude but I will return to watching miraculous when I just don't find anything worth my time because my time has more interesting things to be killed by .
Also Monarchs outfit changes again in season 5 as u can see in an trailer and ... Oh boy I didn't think they could make an worse design than Monach v.1 🤯
@@sevilaliyeva I kind of want to look at it now, just so I can see how hilariously bad it is.
@@sevilaliyevaReally
I don't know since I just watched episode evolution and multiplication .
Monarch's outfit is trash. Whenever I see him I want to hit him. Also isn't Gabriel supposed to be one of the best fashion designer in the world. Maybe it was just a bluff😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤔😱😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do wish the styles were less basic than usual bodysuits, especially the cliche "black cat" look; that's why I love Cat Walker's look. I do wish Hawkmoth's outfit was more fashionable or avante-garde.
@@Marina-vl7hn I actually follow her!
@@Marina-vl7hn ye Queen bee with fur? A show I'll definitely watch
Correct me if I'm wrong:
Black cats are associated with negative topics e.g bad luck, so it makes sense that the destruction miraculous is a black cat, no? Just like how ladybugs are luck.
@@cayenneoo Correct!
I agree. It would be more interesting if ladybug had a different colour than the basic red that we all associate with ladybugs.
I absolutely LOVE how you two have such opposite views of Pigella. It's almost like "THE GREAT DEBATE, OF THE SKIRT."
except y'know. There's no debate, you two just casually mention your views, respect one another, and move along... that's honestly more adult than most adults XD
X3
That's for sure
Thomas Astruc: We made the best designs in the industry!
Me: Then how do you explain the atrocity of Hawkmoth's new outfit?
I still can't believe he actually said that-
I swear I had to stop to laugh my assy out when I saw it
He said what
🌸
No offense to anyone but I laughed at monarch's new transformation, he just goes: *turns into stone*🗿*sprouts wings* 🧚♂*skin turns purple*.
21:28
Viperion ❌
The green one ✅
Yes xD
Fun fact: Some concept art actually shows queen bee with bee wings. Idk why they discarded them, probably because it felt too busy with the furry details on the concept design but they got rid of the fur too. I do wish they kept the wings but her design still looks great.
That would have been cool! It's a shame we couldn't see it in action. But yeah, she still looks great X3
Maybe they didn't want to animate the wings or deal with the logistics of having wings in a character.
I’ve seen fanart that gives her a jacket with an awesome looking fuzzy collar. It looked so good and really suited Chloe’s “rich girl becomes a superhero” vibe.
My favourite is definetly Mayura! In a sea of skin-tight spandex for costumes, her elegant dress really makes her stand out. I love this feminine yet dangerous vibe she is giving off.
So do i ❤🦚
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Just a thought I had watching this when you got to Carapace:
Why did neither of the Snake holders have a hood? Sass is a cobra, right? So why not? Hides the identity well and they could have fun with the concept. Have a section that's colored oddly at the front and can be pulled downward, only for it to be a heat-based vision filter? Like the Halloween costumes that have material you can see out of but not into. Plus it would fit the snake theme and just seems cool to me.
Oh yes! Them having a hood would have been cool!
DATS GENIUS
Maybe they didn’t want them to look too close to Nino. But I mean they’re both reptilian heroes so idk it would’ve worked.
@@reesepuff404 that why it wasn’t in the show,the writer’s are allergic the all that is smart
@@Chatterbox1237 😂 exactly
Chloe is the only one that can get away with a light blue eye shadow and light pink lipstick but let's be honest, there are better options
Yeah, I've never been a fan of her light pink lipstick lol
@@TheArtisticAloubellWhat? Chloe doesn't wear lipstick 💄
@@PancakeRights she does. It's a SUPER light color--and super distracting DX
@@TheArtisticAloubell Oh kk
I think that Ryuko's costume looks great. It's shows her personality: "Strong, independent, optimistic and......" I forgot :)
I love Ryuko's design. My only complaint is I wish her hair had changed to look more wild. Like how Adrien's does when he's Cat Noir.
And confident
Oh my god! Kara! All our 92 comments, I always remember that.
@@MelodyRhythm1111 Ty :D
I like to think the reason Marc changed his looks so much as rooster bold is due to him as a writer knowing all the “hero looks like their civilian form” tropes and all the problems that come from it, so he avoided that from happening
I honestly find it odd hawk moth, someone who rarely comes out of his lair, mask has better identity protection then the two main character's based costumes, don't get me wrong I love hawk moth look (even though I don't like he's villain name) and it's good that the villain's mask protects his identity but I just find it odd, love the video have a great day and stay safe 😁🧣
That's actually a good point lol
You have a great day and stay safe too! ^_^
Off topic, but this video reminded me of this opinion of mine- *Chloe should've had the Rooster Miraculous*
Hear me out! Roosters have a prideful posture recognized in them and the species as a whole is more vicious as Chicken keepers can tell stories on how they needed to hide away injured chickens because their blood would make their roommates ravenous for them.
I felt like the Bee was only given to her for the play-on-words that came with "Queen Bee" and would've totally make sense if she had a character redemption. Rooster makes sense if she was never supposed to have one because:
-Bees sting, but only when they need to. They nurture and care for nature, sesuquebtly caring for others.
-Roosters/chickens are vicious, uppity, territorial.
Like, it just makes sense for Chloe to have been a rooster if she was never going to have a redemption arc!!
Neat idea!
You and Cyrus have very different temperaments, but oddly enough that's what makes this video so entertaining. I think the two of you work well together. (here is me hoping for more future collabs between the both of you) 🥋
Thank you ^0^
My favourite outfit/costume is probably Mayura's... its so pretty, it kinda portrays really well with her resemblance. And I agree that Ladybug's outfit is absolutely terrible and dull, it is very distasteful (unpleasant) and I was not pleased with the results.
And that's all I have to say, I really enjoyed this collaboration! Have an amazing day.
I literally cheered the first time I saw Mayura, actual thought was put into her outfit
@@handsupgimmeallyourcash7475 , yup! Me too
I’m really into outfits and fashions, mlb doesn’t have that much fashion going on, so I’m interested how this turns out.😉
😁
The reason Gabriel didn't disapprove of his mask is because no one sees him, all day he just sits in his room waiting for someone to get mad, because only one person in Paris can get mad at a time. That's the rule.
That still holds true after 4 years
Just thought of something fun they could have done. Imagine if Ladybug's outfit changes through the series alot more often since Marinette can't decide on what look she wants to go with. I can see her struggle with getting a final look when having so many ideas as a fashion designer. Would have been cute and cool to see
=O
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A GOOD IDEA OH MY GOODNESS THATS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@TheArtisticAloubell aawe thank you 👉👈🧡
Now that would have made sense instead of having the same bland costume design along with the obvious hair color and style.
The best collab since Owl City made "Good Time" with Carly Rae Jepsen
PS: Astruc should’ve hired Raven Baxter for the show's fashion
That was a wonderful collab
Raven would’ve eaten up the designs
how ironic is it that gabriel, a famous fashion designer, always has costumes that are even more eyesores that the last!
Well he reminds me of THAT kind of fashion designer, you know?
The one that gives the model a trash bag and pink rain boots to wear and thinks it's a work of art
I think that the bad names for the heroes make a tiny bit of sense, given that they're usually coming up with them on the spot. Like, I'm doing a Miraculous au for one of my hyperfixations and I had to go on a 15 minute Wikipedia scavenger hunt to find a good name. AND I had two other people helping me out. Props to them for at least finding a functional alias. Alya as Scarabella and how she struggled to come up with anything is the most realistic tbh.
You're right! Fair enough! ^_^
fun fact: in the original anime ladybugs costume only had spots on the body and not the limbs, and the ribbons were alot longer too,
it’s small but changes alot.
The ribbons could have been the eye candy too ladybugs boring costume and the limited spots are less busy.
idk why they changed it :/
=O
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT. I had no idea the PV Ladybug didn't have spots on her limbs! That does look a lot better!
The 2D design looks better in general...actually. It's still plain, but somehow more charming.
The ribbons are excellent too. I hate that they shortened them for the cgi show >__
When I look at Pigella the fact that she's so different makes me think that she's the only who got the memo that this was a magical girl show. It still isnt good by any metric, not enough to be a magical girl but too much for a superhero, but it can be rationalised.
I think that ladybugs costume would have looked fine with just the spots in 2D. It would have been understandable to not want to animate a complex costume (however I still think some black areas would be a nice break for the eye.)
BUT because it's 3D animation they could have done more. And I get that one of the reason they moved to 3D was bc some people were getting motions sickness or something from the spots, but you would probably know to level up the costume bc it's 3D. At least make it slightly more appealing and interesting, as you can do that now!
Yeah, for some reason I do like her look in 2D more. She looked great in the PV! The longer antennae really also sold the look for me. It was elegantly simplistic there wile in the canon CGI show...it's insultingly plain. It's so weird!
@@TheArtisticAloubell YEAH! And I've noticed they kinda tried to replicate the exaggerated expressions, but in a 3D translation. It just would have looked so much more natural and fun in 2D. I also love that Marinettes ahoge took the shape of a heart when she was around Adrien, it was so cute! And yes, I totally agree, the long antennae look better. (Lol I always kinda thought that they kinda looked like ladybug wings on the back of her buns.)
Also, another thing is that it would probably be better for her silhouette, having the longer antennae that is. It makes the fighting scenes entertaining and expressive. It's to bad they made them short in the 3D. But I guess it would have taken alot more work to animate them, as they would be like animating another arm and leg.
(Thanks so much for the heart btw, I love your content!)
I also wanna say. Most of these designs would look SO much better in a different art style. I think the fact that the series is animated in this style + being 3D majorly affects the look of the fits.
10000% agree
I'd say a better solution is a completely new art direction and more budget.There are 3D animations pu there that doesn't look as cheap.
I love how Aloubell throws shade at Monarch's blasphemous outfit everytime she gets a chance and i am here for it.
I feel like I'm the only one who sees Zoey's mask giving her a unibrow and eye bags.
I just see her design and am like "Poor girl, they only made you replace Chloe by giving you such a bad-looking mask?"Just change her eyes to yellow. or do what they did with Chat's eyes and just make it yellow. Then just make the mask all black.
Some of these designs look like an amateur designer had 20 seconds to design the outfit..
Also, can we just appreciate how much work was put in these videos? I feel like this quality needs to be addressed more 😊😊
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Edit: this was about the last comment I expected to blow up..
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOTICING THE HARD WORK. 🥰❤️❤️❤️
It really took a while to put all of this together 😭 So I'm glad you liked it!
@@TheArtisticAloubell honesty, I'm surprised ppl don't address it more, ur vids are AMAZING!!!!
@@anokartist2352 aww thank you! 🥰
The iconic duo is back together again!
😎👍✨
While Lady Noire has a great outfit. Her attitude makes me want to get Flowey from Undertale to get her to feel guilty about treating Misterbug poorly.
Miss Hound. The beret is such a nice callback to Season 1 for Sabrina. Continuity!
Cat Noir. Simple yet good enough to keep him from being known as Adrien.
Ladybug. So plain and boring.
Pegabug. BURN IT!!!!
Queen Bee. QUEEN!!!!!
Vesperia. Her name scared me when I first found out that was her superhero name. I have a really bad fear of wasp. But her design is pretty good. So it's definitely not awful.
Mayura. Gorgeous!
King Monkey. George. George. George of the jungle. It's a really good design for Kim.
Rena Rouge. Iconic. And great design.
Carapace. Definitely still love the design. Turtle power!
Polymouse. So cute and so fitting for Mylene! The real mouse!
Multimouse. OP Marinette blah blah blah. Fine design. Too OP. Not the real mouse.
Minatorex. Could've been better. But still better than anything Ladybug could come up with.
Ryuko. You are the Dragon Queen! Badass and mean! But still amazing! Blunt but true to who you are. Oh yeah! You can fight! You can strive. Having the time of your life! See that girl. Watch that scene. Seeing the Dragon queen!
Viperion. Chill snake and respect!
Pigella. So kawaii!!!!!!!!!
Purple Tigress. Amazing and badass!
Caprikid. Scribblenauts unlimited superhero!!!! Yes!!!!
Rooster Bold. Amazing design! Not so great power.
Ladybee: Ahhh! The bright yellow hurts my eyes!!!!
Aspik. He's honestly a great design. I do wish he had hair. But it's still a great design.
Snake Noir. Awesome!!!!
Hawkmoth. Not terrible.
Jade turtle. Not a bad design at all. Pretty good actually.
Misterbug. Badass and trying his best. Slay!!!!!!
Dragonbug. Great design. Can't beat Ryuko though.
Pegasus. Pretty great design.
Scarabella. Best Ladybug design!
Shadowmoth. Ummmm. It's something. Yep. Something.
Shadow Noir. KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!
Multifox. Eh.
Multinoir. Meh.
Multibug. Ew.
Cat walker. Fabulous!
Flairmidable. Honestly not a bad design. Plain. But still pretty good.
Rena Furtive. Love the colors so much!!!!!
Pennybug. I hate it.
Spoilers for season 5 below. Do not read unless you want to know.
Rabbit Noir. Precious cutie pie! He looks amazing!!!!!
Monarch. This is somewhat an improvement.
Kitty Noire. Hope it's good.
Felix with the peacock miraculous. Hope it's good.
If they screw up with Felix's peacock costume I swear- Also if this was a tier list, I would put Shadow Noir in the "Mega Leech's ear scenes" tier
Wait who's kitty noir?
@@usernotfound_____yet Spoiler:
Zoe with the Cat Miraculous
@@whatever5401 thanks for the confirmation I already knew I just wanted to make sure
@@whatever5401 Can you say that again? I can't click read more on this comment for some reason
unpopular opinion: I like ladybug costume. such a pure idea and no distracting details. very simple but very strong
I'm glad you like it! ^_^
Do you know what's ironic? The ladybug outfit was so hard to animate because its just spots. It would have been easier to animate if they'd made the costume better
XD
Hearing Aloubell’s calm voice next to Cyrus’ chaos is amazing and so funny
I hope that there will be more Collabs in the future
Brooo a moment of silence for ladybee. They could’ve called her BumbleBug! That would’ve been so cute.
The crossover of our lives has just begun we will embrace it as we drink from the blood of our enemies
For real 😭
Lol
22:47
"If nathaniel had gotten the rooster one there would be too many warm colours"
Says Alloubell, as Rooster-bold has his hair red to match the rooster's comb.
Okay YEAH...BUT at least with Marc he has black in his hair as well to break up the monotony. XD
Plus the shade of red used goes better with the colors of the outfit.
King Monkey is inspired by Sun Wukong, a Chinese god/demon in mythology. I only know it because that goddamn monkey plagued my childhood lol.
Also Cat Walker is a magnificent design, I will stand by that until the day I die. I only dislike how greasy his hair looks.
King Monkey does have a cool design and I appreciate the inspiration! 😁
I feel like the main issue is with the logic of the show and not if the characters are recognisable in their hero costumes.
Because it’s clear that the show excepts you to suspend your disbelief. And that’s fine , a lot of superhero stories do that.
But then in the same god damn episode they’ll recognise a hot pink villain as that guy they saw at the shop. And the show completely goes back on the rules it set up.
And now your suspension of disbelief is broken because they can’t seem to be consistent with their rules . Which just makes a lot of the identity stuff seem really stupid
EXACTLY. There's no consistency. They say rules and then dont follow them or make them super loose, which makes it frustrating.
As a fan of Sun Wukong/the monkey king, i must say that i'm disappointed that there's a hero who is called "King Monkey" and it's just... a side character, not even talked about ._. Bro, Sun Wukong is the definition of OP, why have i just noticed that there's a hero clearly inspired by him now?
I just realized, magical shenanigans wouldn't work to hide people's identities anyway because in Frighteningale (or however it's spelled), Marinette and Adrien are hesitant to wear Ladybug and Chat Noir costumes as though people might recognize them, and that's never addressed in the show
every ladybug x horse miraculous unification gives me dr. eggman vibes with how awkwardly the glasses are placed on marinette’s face.
YES lol
10:52 "It's not that unique". I've seen Hawk Moth compared to Team Fortress 2's Spy a lot. Aside from both being French, their suits are fairly close. Though I do feel with just a shift in colors, you'd get The Mask, but I also see a bit of GI Joe's Destro in his silver form-fitting headwear.
This is true! ...but spy has ears, so at least there's that
Not me actually clapping in front of my computer when Queen Bee was presented hahaha.
XD
I like how Queen Bee has a more fabulous looking suit while Vesperia has a more hero looking suit. This is because Chloe only cares about her appearance and look as a hero while Vesperia actually wants to be a hero from the kindness of her heart
Thx i gues i like Zoe but Chloe Wold help the City why dose evryone Hates Queen bee dont wory Chloe Yor awsome😭😭😭🐝✨
Chloe will always be a queen Don't worry.
Wich makes Vesperia boring because that is basicly almost every other miraculous holder main motivation
Honestly i think both of their suits look amazing, i like the wasp design for vesperia even if it’s supposed to be a bee its very unique.
@@yay29823 THIS
THIS WHOLE TIME I WAS WAITING FOR WHAT THEY WERE GONNA SAY ABOUT JULEKA, I AM NOT DISPLEASED. I LOVE HER SO MUCH AND SHE LOOKS GREAT😭😭💕💕
But Cyrus is right they really should've given her a different name, THAT ASIDE, 5/5 ON BOTH FRONTS. 🎀✨
How is marinette and gabriel supposed to be aspiring fashion designers/fashions designers yet the outfits they design and the costume in their respective superhero and villan form looks either so bland and too much going on(espically pennybug and monarch). Mr bug has the best costume out of all the ladybugs. Ladybug is too simple and alyas outfit is too much going on.Vesperia outift is horrible and it represents a wasp which.is weird since its a bee miraculous not a wasp.
A near hour long video with two of my favorite youtubers talking about miraculous ladybug? Awesome! 😸
😁❤️✨
Great to see you two collab again. The last time you did was phenomenal. I was especially a fan of your Ephermal rewrite.
Also did you know MLB plans to have TWELVE SEASONS NOW???!!!!!
Oh so going to rush important developments and at the same time stretch the incompetent things. Oh great.
Wait seriously?! WHY
@@47ratsinahoodie money I guess.
These MLB writers are stupid. No one likes a long boring story with rushed development and streched plot lines.
That makes me feel they should have ended this show in S1/S2
@@Wtfiswrongwithme............ idea: what if Season 7 is where Hawkmoth is officially defeated once and for all. Then in Season 8, Ladybug and Cat Noir go to NYC. They hang out with the heroes there, Eagle, etc, and fight other villains. Maybe, we can get some development from the people there, while having some what of a good reason to make another season. Maybe add a fun arc as well. Then same case can go for Shanghai, since I actually want to know more about Fei and Lady Dragon.
Personally I love Chloé's outfit as it just for me looks great (can be improved though) and the bee astetic just sells me. Cat Nior I actually loved his style and honestly saw him as having male catwoman style. I do get the blonde hair does clash with the suit though. Kagami I just love her dragon look.
I always thought Chloe looked fine until my girlfriend watched an episode with me and said she looked like a middleaged mother coming to pick up her kids LMFAO
@@localkate most of the girls dress that way oddly enough
Thank God you both made a video about this. Fashion in MLB is eh . Watching now.
Thank you for watching! ❤️❤️❤️
I like Vesperia's costume...
Because it resembles a hornet more than a bee or a wasp, which perfectly fits for Zoe's character: useless at best, annoying at worst. And are KNOWN for killing bees.
I know Felix's peacock miraculous design wasnt a thing when this video was out, but its my ABSOLUTE favourite design!!! Its just so good with the hood and the eyes like 😩👌
"'The _only_ exceptional thing about you my dear' IS YOUR SKIRT"
Why do I love this line so much 😆 🤣 😆 🤣
31:54 Wow, the switch up XD
I think the problem with suits that barely hide an identity is that it's become an expected staple in these types of franchises that most people just live with or ignore it, while the franchise itself(as Miraculous does) use magic o explain why no one can see. Sailor Moon was a problem- one early episode has her hide from her brother out of fear of being recognized but they forgot about that shortly, so much so that no amount of merchandise or video games sold all over Tokyo are every compared to their civilian forms. Remember He-Man? Recent takes make Adam look different but back in the day no one noticed. But it goes back as far as Superman, where there was rarely an effort to make Clark & Superman look different in media. Chris Reeve was probably the first real attempt by anyone to put in the effort. The George Reeves TV series was especially bad at portraying the 2 personas as almost identical.
W.I.T.C.H. was a notable exception- despite their bodies physically aging a few years, they were easily recognized. Every villain knew who they were as did their allies. They were just fortunate enough to not get noticed by the media so their presence was generally a secret at least on Earth(though the season 2 ending suggest some private firm or government agency knows & is out to recruit or use them- shame we will never get a season 3). In the Halloween episode they change out of necessity, using the excuse they're just fairy costumes & their parents can still recognize them.
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm okay with the superhero form barely (or not at all) hiding their identity. It's super common with magical girl and superhero stories. MY PROBLEM with Miraculous is that its rules on how this works in canon is too wishy washy and fluid. What I mean is, they say one thing, but then contradict themselves. If the established rule in the show is that the heroes cannot be recognized due to magic, then there should be no reason why Alya sees a resemblance between Cat Noir and Adrien. There should be no reason why Adrien can recognize Ladybug's voice when Mari is in civilian form. It's things like that that bug me. It breaks ones suspension of disbelief.
BUT purely for the sake of this video, I was interested in seeing how many heroes' outfits would pass in our world as good disguises vs the ones that wouldn't.
I hope all of that makes sense!
Also, in Sailor Moon, at least in the manga, its explained that while we as an audience see the girls looking exactly the same as their senshi forms, to the civilians and such, they look more alien, so that's why they aren't recognized.
I love how you both have different opinions on certain outfits instead of the same option, it's a nice touch that makes the video feel less repetitive and more fresh.
Rooster Bold’s design is probably my favourite miraculous transformation. I may be biased because I love Marc but I think it’s just amazing.
It works in a similar way to Julica’s in the sense that it’s so unlike him that people won’t think twice about it being Marc, yet it suits him so well. I’m a big fan of ‘fancier’ more grand fashion, and I think the design is unbelievably fashionable in general. With a few changes it’s practically vogue cover ready.
The hair and eye colour change, the mask, and the tighter clothes then he is usually wearing just works amazingly in a secret identity situation.
Also comparing it to Ladybug’s original design, I think it shows just how good the designs can get when there’s enough thought and energy put into them.
It’s 100% a 5/5 on both scales for me :]
Hawk Moth is perfect in functionality
He becames taller
His voice changes
It hides all Gabriel body
GGEZ
Not Cyrus saying every five seconds “Since I’m into fashion now 😌😌😌✨✨” 😂😂
Love your guys’ ratings I agreed with most of it LMAO
It's really hard to follow a review of an outfit when you pop it on screen for a second and then make it disappear while you're actually speaking about the parts that you like. Thank you to Cyrus for actually flashing the stock images of the outfits up while he was speaking about them 👍
I'm aware of the mistake I made. I was worried at the time about there being too much happening on screen to keep the picture up. But I hear the critique loud and clear. Thank you!
I was watching this and I realized. Gabriel did not make use of the rooster, the bull, or his normal butterfly miraculous in season 5. OMG. he literally still has a chance to save his wife.
It's questionable if thats even his goal anymore >___
@@TheArtisticAloubell yeah i guess so
I don't think Marinette's costume is bad. It looks good and it makes her instantly recognizable. The simplicity is the point.
To each their own! It is definitely recognizable, but too plain for my tastes.
The point is litteraly that it shouldn't be simple, for many many reasons
I'm sorry, but the point of a superhero costume is to HIDE her identity. If is instantly recognizable in a show that is all about that secret identity... well...than we have a problem.
For examples of shows outside of this that make the character recognizable but different, I suggest designs like Cyber 6 (from Cyber 6), or Miss Martian (Young Justice).
I agree that we should recognize Mari, but have to make the superhero disguise difficult for others to not recognize. Spiderman's costume is a full body suit and mask with the designs of webs and spiders. Simplistic and recognizable for us to know, but harder for others to figure out.
Hello! I kind of agree if we make concessions for the sake of simplicity, including the fact that masks / glasses / haircuts hide identities as effectively as a helmet. But I seem to recall the main reason was for the hero to be easy to draw / animate. I can almost imagine a Ladybug suit without the dots, that would be even easier! Instead of Ladybug she would be called... Scarlet Lady? :-D Great web comic, I recommend it!
Edna Mode would curse all of these but give + -1 points for NO CAPES!
Unpopular opinion, I like pennybug. I genuinely adore the hair so much that I'm willing to overlook the rather cluttered costume.
I'm not a fashion expert, and I don't really watch Miraculous Ladybug as much as I used to, but I have to admit that I like Polymouse's outfit. I like the way that Polymouse's fat body gives you the resemblance of a cute real life wittle mouse!
I don't hate cat walker, I just hate the puke green hair color they gave him, the rest of it is perfectly fine
Right?? Gosh I hate it
@@watchadoinl like, you can change the hair style, that's completely fine, but why change it to such an ugly color, imagine how much better it would look if it was black
“Purple tigress doesn’t sound like an interesting name?”
Hmm… Violet Tigress- 😳
I really laughed when The Artistic Aloubell was just talking in american while Cyrus sounded like he was abt to swear in filipino 😂
The whiplash between alou and cyrus is like jumping in a giant box of hot sand and then jumping in a iced pool ;-;
One thing about Pegasus. They white washed him. Like- they also whitewashed Aliah when she transforms, but Max got whitewashed HARD as pegasus
Omg I had never seen Pigella's concept art, but they're all amazing and incomparable to the one we got! My favorite is the ping and white one with blond hair, it's adorable!
I like ALL Of the concepts more than what we've got lol
38:30 The censorship made it sound like Cyrus said the S word. 🤣
I had a coloring book with a picture of Cat Noir and I tipped his hair in black, so it has a nice ombré fade that looks SO MUCH FREAKING BETTER
Collab of all time
I respect both of your opinions, but in my personal opinion, I think that the Pegabug suit looks great. The gradient on the leg area and arm are isn't so bad. It fits well because it was based on a cyldesdale horse's legs. The horseshoe isn't necessary sure, but it looks cute and I think it was meant to have a bolo tie motif since horses are typically popular in western areas. The wings on the feet, I'll admit are a bot excessive, but still look okay enough. The pony tail is cute too. I dont have a problem with the shades since it fits with the Miraculous, but I'm not sure if it's even possible to use the Horse Miraculous via wearing it on your shirt. Honestly less spots on the limbs would have worked more favors. Despite the flaws, I liked it a lot. The white on her chest was used perfectly, because it resembled a horses underbelly. I feel like Cyrus was over reacting over the Pegabug suit, but I can respect his opinion. I find it hard to get mad at that. Plus, I have an affinity for cyldesdale horses, and I think they are adorable. (Note: I'm not saying that I like the Pegabug suit because of my clydesdale horse bias. I acknowledge that there are some flaws in the design, but I still enjoy it.)
I think is how the gradient with the polka dots make it look too busy. Which happens. Polka dots is a busy design and mixing it with a gradient makes the design look too much and uncanny
@@dcscruz2970 Hmm... I took another glance and I see your point. The polka dots could have gone to the forearms and thighs. But I still like the design. I can acknowledge the flaws but I still enjoy the suit design nonetheless.
Pennybug is so crazy i love her
IKR??? i just love the ponytail and white details so much she looks so badass
@@pescuezoee if the glasses were a full black mask. Bigger spots i can see it working
23:58 okay his name is Luka, and you have to remember his name because he's a kind person and a good character (at least to me). Honestly though, I know Cyrus is right about Viperion in terms of a lack of a secret identity, but personally didn't mind because I think his hairstyle fit the style for a snake miraculous holder, also his highlights is already very close to the costume color. So while Cyrus is right, I'm kind of glad they didn't change his hair/hair color.
The person diving the chapters has serious dedication 👏👏👏
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Slay 😆👍
Miraculous chastisers! ASSEMBLLLLLLLLLLE!
*badly kazoo’d version of the Avengers theme plays*
I love that 🤣
Thomas Astruc: “I am inevitable.”
Those who “dare to criticize him”: “And we disagree with your creative choices.”
Missed opportunity for them to make Ladybug specifically 7 spotted ladybug to represent the main 7 miraculouses... or incorporate it into the design some way like having only 7 dots on her back (just an idea).
I would honestly love miss hound so much if she had a dog nose 😂
Personally, Catwalker’s disguise is literally just Adrien with greasy and slightly greenish blond hair
As for Pennybug, its a combination of PEgasus buNNY and LadyBUG
Her superhero combination name is pretty bland. Personally, I would have gone with Thricing Chimera.
aloubell: ehhh the tutu… 🥴
cyrus: the skirt is godsend👍🏼
Pigella, the skirt. You either hate it or love it. No in between 😂
purple tigress is by FAR my favourite,, it's so sick and just ughhh i wanna give her designer a kiss on the lips
Eyyyy, im glad that both you and Cyrus contribute on this video, i hope i can see both of ya colab in the future
And i do agree that the MLB costume designes are.... a mix bag, some good some bad, and some UTERLY RIDICULOUS, and i apreciate the time watching this video
And is pizza time 🍕
I think you mean MLB. MLP is a very different franchise.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF ops, my bad, my little pony is a verry greate franchiles
@@denysvision No worries.^^ And yes it definitely is. My favorite pony is Fluttershy.^^
5:07 she could have been like iron man, upgrading her suit as time goes by
Most super hero costumes work at hiding the wearers identity because people don't think in duel identities. Only someone like Lila who lives multiple identities can see through the mask!
The two have completely different ideas for the designs *(for most of the characters)* and that's hilarious and interesting. :0
omggg the mini cyrus in the thumbnail sooo cute 😭😭good job two you!!!
Thank you!
Cyrus spitting fax about ponytails, I love them :)
yay another collab with cyrus :)I love your vids
Thank you for watching! ❤️
"The only exceptional thing about you my dear is your skirt"
When i first this coming from cyrus it made me laugh. 😄
That line made me laugh too XD
@@TheArtisticAloubell I just realized that cyrus called rose sailor moon (pigella) because of the skirt. & i dont blame him for it.
Best crossover ever!
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