@Denzel Jarome a fucking baked bean describing anyone as a failed anything. We sent our p.coy failures to lympstone to do the baked bean course and all of them passed. I am a Falklands vet. How many VC's did the baked beans get .. ???? Wots that .. deafening silence...????
gd one mate I come and grew up in Dover were 2 para me thinks were there AS the last regiment in the Connaught barracks they were a pleasure to have in the town Wild but good blokes I had plenty of heavy nights in town drinking with em Great days
@Denzel Jarome I suggest you research the falklands war particularly the news footage as 2 para were the first British troops to March into Stanley. You might well take note of the reporters comments Ask yourself this as well. When was the last time you saw a tv recruiting advert for the parachute regiment??? Marines advertise all the time !!! No shortage of people who want to join the best regiment. Y drive a fiesta if you can drive a Ferrari !!!
@@Bjaneeee....In a way! Testing your mettle is to follow instruction/orders without hesitation, to trust your Instructors....Jumping out of an aircraft is one of the consequences of following those orders.
@@Bjaneeee....Dunno, I wasn't in the Paras, I was in the RAF, so never done P Company. The RAF Regiment have their own course called the PPS, but this is not as tough as P Company....However, the concept is similar in so far as it still tests your mettle.
I did my P company in 1984 whist serving in 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem barracks in Aldershot. I found the mental stamina required was a greater challenge than the physical side of it. I was 18 and indestructible with a massive dose of stupid which helped. I found the experience served me well in later life. I refuse to give up now at anything. Milling was the worst part, I got a lucky strike in very early which put my opponent down so they kept me in one more bout against a gorilla. He beat me so hard that I went to the toilet afterwards and puked my ring up. Happy days.
@Fistof Fury I was with ROAC at HQ 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem bks, did my pre para with 9 sqn royal engineers before going over the road to do my P company at browning bks.
The idea of the trainasium is actually more to test their ability to obey a command without hesitation. If you hesitate when jumping out of a plane you could fuck everything up for everyone and miss the drop zone. It's less about simulating the jump and more about simulating that immediate reaction to an order whether you're scared or not
I can't remember ever being dropped on the dz ever. It was a given there was a mad tab to get to where we needed to be after a jump. I must have tabbed every inch of Salisbury plain in my time, cheers you RAF muppets.
@@lincolndave1966able how often did you jump? I have my second attempt at prac in August so hopefully I'll be lobbing myself put of perfectly good planes sometimes in the future 😂
@@shmached been along time since the early 80's but back then to keep your para pay it was 6 jumps a year (hence the balloon over the playing fields). No idea what it is now.
My uncle was an instructor on P company at one point. The one thing he told me before I applied was that nobody is ever fit enough for P coy and its mostly in the mind. I wound up applied to standard infantry anyway.
Same as UKSF, no human being is physically fit enough to complete the selection on fitness alone. What they are looking for is the mental strength to go on when the body is shutting down and everything is telling you it can't be done, that's why they are so few...
There's one part of the trainasium known as the illusion jump. It's a platform where you do a standing jump at the word of command to another platform. From the starting platform there doesn't seem any way you could ever make it to the other side. In fact, and although it doesn't seem like it, the second platform is lower than the first and the forward motion combined with the descent is actually more than enough to get you across. I'm mentioning this because how I felt standing on the first platform waiting for a command to do something that my brain was screaming couldn't be done was exactly how I felt standing in the door on my first parachute jump (surname starting with A meant I was first out the door, welcome to the army). Jumped both times.
Always been proud that my Dad was a Para.. He used to tell me about the manner of men that were the Paras and their history. They really are a breed apart!
In the US, rge the British Parachute Regiment would be classed as Special Forces equivalent to Rangers. However, it is my belief that Para' Reg' is a lot more difficult than many if not all US infantry or special forces (not Delta and SEALS). Outside UK Special Forces (SAS. SBS) P Company and Royal Marines Commandos selection is probably the most challenging in the world.
I did P Coy in the early 2000s. It was an unofficial expectation to have your wings up before doing a certain role I had applied for at the time. I was the oldest on the course by a good 5 years. It is difficult but achievable with training and attitude. The hardest part for me was starting each test each morning because I was still sore from the day before. However I was a fairly fit lad and once I got going it was just about sucking it up. A little bit of pain never hurt anybody.
British/UK Para forces are sent into situations where most would fail, this is why psychological elements of training are essential. These really are toe-to-toe fighters, just look at their missions/honours over the last 80yrs!
@Alex Mulvihill they're not the facts what really happened Paras were called in to help after bottle bombs were thrown and serious injuries to soldiers the IRA and Martin McGuinness fried the first shots with an M16 which went into the crowd then the Paras fired back then other civilians with small arms then the paras the government kept it under wraps because at the time the Parachute Regiment were threatening to take over the government like 1 rep French Foreign Legion parachute regiment try to do before they were disbanded that is what they were hoping was going to happen to the Paras all the facts about the event around are biased like the films are as well government propaganda a terrible accident by both sides
@Alex Mulvihill the investigation was rubbish because a lot of the people involved are dead now it was a biased investigation to keep people calm no IRA members have been prosecuted only British soldiers
@Alex Mulvihill so I'm an idiot and this is from people who were really there from both sides I know Catholic Irish that hate the IRA with passion more than anybody else ira are a bunch of paedophiles drug dealers and groomers murderers of women children you've obviously been brainwashed by somebody down the road I feel sorry for you
My very best wishes to the lad. I spent 15 years in the brigade and loved every minute. I am sure your son will enjoy being airborne. No sky too high...
The whole apparatus is thought out to teach them to follow commands when scared and to overcome fear of heights. The layout is made so they’re forced to look at the ground whilst they’re doing it
P Coy 1975 - RMCTC - 1983 PF PL - 1986 Ranger School - 1989 Sapper School - 1998. All Trg pushes you to the limited of physical endurance, mental stamina and questions daily as a volunteer, “ how bad do you want to succeed”. Never looked back only forward. Respect and Honor to you all who have served and survived. Salute
Passed my P comany at Catterick and went on to serve with 2/4 para we where sent on an exchange with U.S troops in Kentucky Fort Knox and the way you guys train is just as hard as British Paras do i had time of my life the Americain guys where brilliant enjoyed it all and i know the lads from U.S that came to UK enjoyed it to i loved firing the 50 cal on the knox ranges fantastic.
Trinasium is used to see if you can, overcome fear and follow an order, when you get the green light you can’t freeze. It isn’t bad once you run through it. Gandalf’s dip doesn’t take any prisoners on the log run.
Kaya Teksen yeah by p coy all the lads would have had a turn on this as well to familiarise. So you do gandalfs dip on p coy? That’s interesting. Is it same route as the 4mile fam run at PRAC?
I've done recreational tandem skydives a few times, loved it each time, no fear, would do it every day if I could, it was so exhilarating. But you couldn't pay me enough to try walking across that 60-foot-high jungle gym!
You need to do it to understand it ! But your correct its nothing to do with parachute training or fitness, it does weed out a few guys. Iv worked with the 82nd and the Rangers, they can’t keep up , in the field with Para Reg fitness. Don’t talk go do !!!
From my experience, the more you hesitate, the less likely you are going to go through with the obstacle course. In such situations, it is down to mental stamina and shear courage.
Trainaism is not to represent jumping.. Its testing confidence with heights, just like the high rope on the ranger course at Bragg, which in fact is unbelievably easy course throughout
Mental toughness is always overlooked by people joining up. I've seen lads of 6" plus and 13st struggling on speed marches with weight. I've also seen skinny guys weighing 10st soaking wet breeze it! Mental toughness is something else..you've either got it or you haven't.
The tranasium is not to simulate jumping out of a plain it to see if the recruits have bottle at hight which in turn will give them confidence when jumping out a plane the parachute regiment is the best airborne unit in the world
Trinasium is all about nerve.. if u can run over the course overcoming your fears not worrying if u going to fall maybe killing yourself you can overcome juming into battle.. iv done one and yes scary
I was always terrified on the plane, and just fine under canopy.The drills kick in and there's no longer any fear. Spudded in once on a night jump and fractured a vertebrae, had mad twists from a poor exit but never any malfunctions. The ramp on a c130 being down reminded me of a giant tv screen, no vertigo at all, only the knowledge that you'd have to jump out of it. Big difference between that tower and jumping.
Nothing wrong with failure my man. It's how you adapt and overcome that shows the strength of a man. He overcame his failure and learnt that he can do it. These guys a British servicemen and that makes them the best. Failure is just a part of learning
The trainasium is a part of p coy to see if you can react on a word of command, it translates to exiting a aircraft with no hesitation while also translating to bursting into a room to clear it when your told with no hesitation.
Shouting at recruits is a terrible way to instruct and incite ‘fear’. If you shout all the time it loses its effectiveness. Its like saying i love you 10 times a day. People don’t fear the extrovert - they fear the introvert. So when the introvert instructor explodes - everyone shuts up and listens properly. The most scariest instructor i ever had was one that didn’t speak and just stared when he was angry.
The reason the royal marines don't scream at their recruits is because they want them to find the motivation for them selves and dig deep, in the field there won't be someone screaming keep moving they have to find it within themselves
Iv watched the whole series, what they dont show u is the lack of sleep these guys have this on p company.. late nights early mornings, midnight beastings.. they get put through the mill
If you cant do the tranasium, it's very unlikely you are going to jump out of a plan. It's not about simulating jumping out of a plane, its determining whether you will go on command without hesitation.
Also worth noting, this is to prove you react on command and will exit the plane on the Green light. If you don't jump, it's a court martial, jail time and quick exit our the regiment (after jail time). This is your job as a para and there is no point in spending the money to train someone up and get them to that jump, to find they don't have the mettle for the job.
I would say the screaming is different, one thing on the run or in field combat. I have been a DI and nothing scares the recruit more then be quit and cool if you inside etc.
it's not a jungle assault kiddy, play ground, it's a confident test, so you don't hesitate on the command when given orders on the word "Standby Go" in the execution of its role no matter what that outcome is & to overcoming fear. It save alot of guys going Brize Norton, who don't have the right attitude. Remember the Para and Airborne brigade are a very robust Regiment and highly professional, were there a high percentage rate go into SF, just like the American 75 Rangers in to Delta.
This is not about simulating jumping from a plane. Its about dealing with your fears, so that you dont freeze when being told to jump from an airplane a x thousands feet into a battle zone.
I don't know what happened to the 1st jump - the balloon jump. When people yell, "Airborne!", few courses have that jump to make and it's the true test.
I think what they're looking for is guts and determination. Someone who's perhaps not so super fit but willing to give it their very best shot with lots of determination will get through. They can always work at their fitness and build on it,. but if they haven't got the mind set then they're wasting their own time. IMO only as haven't experienced P Coy but wish them the very best and hope they all pass
The trainasium is only partly testing the ability to jump out of a plane. Paras when jumping in are surrounded 360⁰ by enemy as they are behind enemy lines. When under fire you are going against every nerve and particle of brain matter screaming DO NOT RUN. This is testing your ability to deny your fear and do it anyway as that literally wins battles.
As stated below the trainasium is not to simulate jumping out of an aeroplane. It is a test to deal with fear at height and you still obey commands when they are given such as when you get the green light on to jump. It is all progressive to that stage.
If you fear heights, challenge yourself - I'm petrified of heights, so I did a small wall climb, then did a 30 story abseil off a building. You can overcome anything, it is all in the mind.
The tranasium is not about simulating jumping..its about producing a soldier who will react to an order whilst under stress. It is also a right of passage for a airborne soldier, that started in WW2 when this type of test was introduced to select those who would not freeze in the door, at a time in history when only a very elite few had ever been in a plane, never mind jump out of one!
You missed out the milling. Paras are trained for extreme controlled aggression. The milling part is a very interesting tradition. I'm surprised you missed it out.
yeah milling is a C* my of a thing.controled aggressive.bollocks OC P coy wants to see a fight.not a pussy.i got smashed but kept going and that's what is needed 😂😂😂
Paras, I don’t understand why but everyone hates them. I respect them as they do a lot more difficult stuff than us (regular inf soldier in training at Catterick)
One part jealousy, one part confusion, one part actual annoyance (paras also suffer from big headed arrogance - not entirely unwarranted but it rubs people the wrong way)
Fantastic video. And the fact that you said the first loser I like. Simply because these days everybody's the last winner (there is no such thing in my opinion and certainly wasn't when I was playing football in HS 25yrs ago)....damn...feeling old. God forbid anyone gets their feelings hurt. As you stated, lot of paratroopers do it and hate it at the same time. That translates into a lot of areas in life where you hate it and you're miserable but you do it anyway. I won't rant, it's Christmas so if you celebrate Christmas then Merry Christmas, if not have a great day anyway!!! Put that in the comments...love it.
Remember doing my P Company before being posted to 16 Air Assault Brigade. Looking back at the age of 44. It’s still the biggest test of my mental fortitude. Mind you still don’t like log runs lol?
The Royal Marines were a group set up specifically because they needed individuals with different talents and were good at forming plans on the fly. The purpose of the marines was to get behind enemy lines and cause as much havoc and damage as possible. For groups like the paras, this isn’t needed as they function more like the regular army.
The Royal marines have been in existence since 1664 naval infantry raised for the dutch Anglo war during the reign of king Charles the 2nd. It wasn't until ww2 that the commando role was transferred from the army to the marines.
if u can't operate with DIs n staff SCREAMING at u how do they expect u to operate with rounds after rounds after rounds going above ur head left right n centre
It's very easy to sit, watch a video and be critical. P Company's Trainasium looks awkward but our Assault course in the bottom field at CTCRM is a ball breaker, and has to be done within 13 minute's. The Paras were conceived in early 1941/42, the Royal Marines came about in 1664.
And lets hope it stays this way and not weakened for females in the 80s this was standard training for infantry we did 5 miles full kit 35 pounds as it was then rifles.We also did the stretcher and also the NBC in respirators then gas chamber.Also took the log over the assualt course section effort.And milling was the norm then.However things have changed.
There's a 1983 bbc program called paras the maroon machine which is old school . My old man did P coy in the early 80s, I did it in the early 90s and we both came from the Royal regiment of fusiliers, which were just as hard as the paras. Great rivalry especially in the boxing. If we were in the same town or city or training ground you knew squaddies were going hospital
Remember the first series in 83, I was going to join but I joined the Scots guards instead, Didn't really fancy jumping out of a plain. The platoon sargeant from that first series , a geordie became a staff sergeant at Brecon and I met him when I was on a mortar shoot a few years later, a tough breed .
You are always bashing the Royal Marine Commandos, I feel you really need to do more research before you criticise. You do realise that the 32 week Commando training is the longest and most difficult "basic" infantry training in the WORLD?! Furthermore, our elite regiments such as P company and the Commandos are the oldest and most finely tuned, you yanks learnt from these guys 80 years ago... they were the first shock trooper regiments to ever exsist.
@@JamesonsTravels I agree, and I'm a serving Royal Marine! Joke's aside that show you watched was created specifically with the approval of the Royal Marines to attract potential recruits that would have been too intimidated by our previous advertising tag line of "99.9% need not apply". The classic 'throw shit at a wall and see what sticks' method. That show does not reflect the average recruit or the 'darker' parts of training (the parts you would enjoy). Check out Commando On The Front Line by Chris Terrell for a more accurate depiction.
Jamesons Travels another vote for “Commando on the frontline”, fantastic series. Also check out “ 55 year old Commando”, by the same film maker of “ Commando on the frontline”.
3:04 Parachuting is MUCH easier than the Trainasium. I've jumped from the balloon, Hercules - day and night - and have done freefall. The Trainasium's really there to test a man's ability to follow crazy orders when stressed and daunted, it's much like the VDV's principle of "Train hard, fight easy". Those safety bars along the runways and the safety nets are BS. We didn't have them in the 1980s. 5:13 The optical illusion jump. When you're standing up there, it does NOT look possible. It's a two footed jump, no leaping. Logic dictates that it you CAN do it because you saw a member of the training staff do it as a walk-through talk-through before the recruits are let onto it. One guy on my selection missed it but caught the bars. He was allowed to try it again - and did it right the second time. Passed despite his shoulder injury. 7:10 Log Race. It's incredibly painful. Not just on the arm and shoulder but on the lungs. We only saw one log in this but, in my time, you'd have a few. Everyone competing to win, it's run at a stupid fast pace all the way. Agonising. Last log (and stretcher) in gets punished. On my selection, only 5 of us passed out of 46 who began training.
What way could I prepare for the P company tests ? I’ve got my 2km run to 6m 55s and mid thigh pull and medicine ball throw sorted but have no clue how to prepare myself for the p company tests what did you do in preparation
Just for nerds it's a mile from the PARA camp to the gym and the only person who I heard fell all the way down was a ghurka , but was it military parachuting
Oh that one has been a while. Perhaps I will start over with it or part 2. Video did not perform well but I do like watching selection since its almost the same for any infantry training at least 30 years ago stuff.
The thing about the heights though is that the parachute regiment also fast rope from a helicopter roughly from the same height as the trainasium. Which if they hesitate at it could obviously risk lives by keeping other troops there longer than need be. It’s all about over coming fear, nothing to do with the height itself 👍
I really like your commentary. I was in the RAF for 12 years and occasionally worked with the US Marines, top guys. Greetings from Glasgow Scotland mate.
As you alluded to, military fitness is a completely different animal than 'civvy' cross-fitters/ Gym-Queens/athletes! We had to lads in our troop as recruits who were 'ripped' MMA fighters (looked the part of a steely eyed dealers of death!) but neither could hack the speed marches, yomps and being generally very cold, very wet and very tired!
As has been said, the trainasium isn't to do with jumping from a plane. It is a test of the size of your bollocks and the ability to overcome fear immediately, at command. It's not about fear. Anyone with half a brain would be concerned about tiptoeing up there. It is entirely about obeying orders without hesitation, along with other aspects of para training. Especially milling.
My mate was a PT in p company instantly fit he went in instantly for but he said the log ruined him lol. The kid could do all sorts of gymnastics and run for miles upon miles.
Can I hack it ... I hacked P.coy in 1972.I was an Olympic standard fit young soldier of 22 and loved the challenge of P.coy. we started with 126 candidates on the course and with 24 candidates left on the last day. The entire course was a KILLER. The most physically demanding thing I will ever do.
Royal Marines, the thinking soldier. Paras strength of a carthorse, speed of a racehorse and brains of a rockinghorse. :¬)) Dad was a Para.
@Denzel Jarome what
@Denzel Jarome a fucking baked bean describing anyone as a failed anything. We sent our p.coy failures to lympstone to do the baked bean course and all of them passed. I am a Falklands vet. How many VC's did the baked beans get .. ????
Wots that .. deafening silence...????
gd one mate I come and grew up in Dover were 2 para me thinks were there AS the last regiment in the Connaught barracks they were a pleasure to have in the town Wild but good blokes I had plenty of heavy nights in town drinking with em Great days
@Denzel Jarome marines are failed paras are marines are not para trained you spastic
@Denzel Jarome I suggest you research the falklands war particularly the news footage as 2 para were the first British troops to March into Stanley. You might well take note of the reporters comments Ask yourself this as well. When was the last time you saw a tv recruiting advert for the parachute regiment??? Marines advertise all the time !!! No shortage of people who want to join the best regiment. Y drive a fiesta if you can drive a Ferrari !!!
The Trinasium isn't there to simulate jumping out of an aircraft, it's there to test your mettle!!!
To see if you've got the mettle to jump out of an airplane...
@@Bjaneeee....In a way! Testing your mettle is to follow instruction/orders without hesitation, to trust your Instructors....Jumping out of an aircraft is one of the consequences of following those orders.
@@Topgooner01 So cool! Wish I had the mettle to do it, what's it like?
@@Bjaneeee....Dunno, I wasn't in the Paras, I was in the RAF, so never done P Company. The RAF Regiment have their own course called the PPS, but this is not as tough as P Company....However, the concept is similar in so far as it still tests your mettle.
@Topgooner Did you do the 5 miler of death so you can stand toe to toe with a para at the bar?
I did my P company in 1984 whist serving in 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem barracks in Aldershot. I found the mental stamina required was a greater challenge than the physical side of it. I was 18 and indestructible with a massive dose of stupid which helped. I found the experience served me well in later life. I refuse to give up now at anything. Milling was the worst part, I got a lucky strike in very early which put my opponent down so they kept me in one more bout against a gorilla. He beat me so hard that I went to the toilet afterwards and puked my ring up. Happy days.
Wasn't it browning bks
Hey I did 663plt but I did a 20miler in p coy day4 have they sto the twenty miler??
@Fistof Fury I was with ROAC at HQ 5 airborne brigade at Arnhem bks, did my pre para with 9 sqn royal engineers before going over the road to do my P company at browning bks.
@@grahamc9890 that was end of 2000 yeh?
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Same happened to me on milling and I was a boxer !!!! 😂😂😂
The idea of the trainasium is actually more to test their ability to obey a command without hesitation. If you hesitate when jumping out of a plane you could fuck everything up for everyone and miss the drop zone. It's less about simulating the jump and more about simulating that immediate reaction to an order whether you're scared or not
shmached your right, it’s all about timing when you’re jumping. Can’t hesitate in the door.
Hit the nail on the head.
I can't remember ever being dropped on the dz ever. It was a given there was a mad tab to get to where we needed to be after a jump. I must have tabbed every inch of Salisbury plain in my time, cheers you RAF muppets.
@@lincolndave1966able how often did you jump? I have my second attempt at prac in August so hopefully I'll be lobbing myself put of perfectly good planes sometimes in the future 😂
@@shmached been along time since the early 80's but back then to keep your para pay it was 6 jumps a year (hence the balloon over the playing fields). No idea what it is now.
My uncle was an instructor on P company at one point. The one thing he told me before I applied was that nobody is ever fit enough for P coy and its mostly in the mind. I wound up applied to standard infantry anyway.
Same as UKSF, no human being is physically fit enough to complete the selection on fitness alone. What they are looking for is the mental strength to go on when the body is shutting down and everything is telling you it can't be done, that's why they are so few...
There's one part of the trainasium known as the illusion jump. It's a platform where you do a standing jump at the word of command to another platform.
From the starting platform there doesn't seem any way you could ever make it to the other side. In fact, and although it doesn't seem like it, the second platform is lower than the first and the forward motion combined with the descent is actually more than enough to get you across.
I'm mentioning this because how I felt standing on the first platform waiting for a command to do something that my brain was screaming couldn't be done was exactly how I felt standing in the door on my first parachute jump (surname starting with A meant I was first out the door, welcome to the army). Jumped both times.
The Standing Jump, One lad said to me watch you recon? I replied, I work on scaffolding, The lad failed the standing jump
Can’t say I ever thought it was an illusion. Just a jump If your not scared of heights it’s a bit of fun
Always been proud that my Dad was a Para.. He used to tell me about the manner of men that were the Paras and their history. They really are a breed apart!
good on dad, Marron machine is a proud badge of honour.special forces pay,boot neck don't get SF pay.says it all
In the US, rge the British Parachute Regiment would be classed as Special Forces equivalent to Rangers. However, it is my belief that Para' Reg' is a lot more difficult than many if not all US infantry or special forces (not Delta and SEALS). Outside UK Special Forces (SAS. SBS) P Company and Royal Marines Commandos selection is probably the most challenging in the world.
Mate that’s a fuckint brave comment, the yanks aren’t gonna be happy
Max doesn’t make it less true tho 👌
Lol better than US Special force. First and foremost your a dumbass 2nd youre delusional 3rd you are born autistic
Paras are a special forces support regiment
@@charliestirrup6645 No they aren't. Only 1 para is special forces support
"If you've got a fear of heights, maybe the parachute regiment is not for you". Yea!
I did P Coy in the early 2000s. It was an unofficial expectation to have your wings up before doing a certain role I had applied for at the time. I was the oldest on the course by a good 5 years. It is difficult but achievable with training and attitude. The hardest part for me was starting each test each morning because I was still sore from the day before. However I was a fairly fit lad and once I got going it was just about sucking it up. A little bit of pain never hurt anybody.
British/UK Para forces are sent into situations where most would fail, this is why psychological elements of training are essential.
These really are toe-to-toe fighters, just look at their missions/honours over the last 80yrs!
@Alex Mulvihill
Only if there are cowards amongst the civilians shooting at them!!
@Alex Mulvihill they're not the facts what really happened Paras were called in to help after bottle bombs were thrown and serious injuries to soldiers the IRA and Martin McGuinness fried the first shots with an M16 which went into the crowd then the Paras fired back then other civilians with small arms then the paras the government kept it under wraps because at the time the Parachute Regiment were threatening to take over the government like 1 rep French Foreign Legion parachute regiment try to do before they were disbanded that is what they were hoping was going to happen to the Paras all the facts about the event around are biased like the films are as well government propaganda a terrible accident by both sides
@Alex Mulvihill the investigation was rubbish because a lot of the people involved are dead now it was a biased investigation to keep people calm no IRA members have been prosecuted only British soldiers
@Alex Mulvihill so I'm an idiot and this is from people who were really there from both sides I know Catholic Irish that hate the IRA with passion more than anybody else ira are a bunch of paedophiles drug dealers and groomers murderers of women children you've obviously been brainwashed by somebody down the road I feel sorry for you
Alex Mulvihill but how tf would u know that
My sons doing his Para training - it’s hard work.
Good lad 🇬🇧🇬🇧
How’s he doing how far into training is he
Tony T PCOY starts next week
Chris Hunt good luck to him
My very best wishes to the lad. I spent 15 years in the brigade and loved every minute. I am sure your son will enjoy being airborne.
No sky too high...
The whole apparatus is thought out to teach them to follow commands when scared and to overcome fear of heights. The layout is made so they’re forced to look at the ground whilst they’re doing it
The trainazium is really to weed out anyone who suddenly realises they're actually not cool with heights... Which is kinda super important
“We need you to dig out blind” = give it absolutely everything you’ve got
P Coy 1975 - RMCTC - 1983
PF PL - 1986 Ranger School - 1989 Sapper School - 1998. All Trg pushes you to the limited of physical endurance, mental stamina and questions daily as a volunteer, “ how bad do you want to succeed”. Never looked back only forward. Respect and Honor to you all who have served and survived. Salute
Passed my P comany at Catterick and went on to serve with 2/4 para we where sent on an exchange with U.S troops in Kentucky Fort Knox and the way you guys train is just as hard as British Paras do i had time of my life the Americain guys where brilliant enjoyed it all and i know the lads from U.S that came to UK enjoyed it to i loved firing the 50 cal on the knox ranges fantastic.
2 para and 4 para are you real.different as chalk and cheese
Trinasium is used to see if you can, overcome fear and follow an order, when you get the green light you can’t freeze. It isn’t bad once you run through it. Gandalf’s dip doesn’t take any prisoners on the log run.
Looks rough.
Kaya Teksen yeah by p coy all the lads would have had a turn on this as well to familiarise. So you do gandalfs dip on p coy? That’s interesting. Is it same route as the 4mile fam run at PRAC?
Yes. Part 2 please!
Will do. Keep watching the others as well. Some good stuff.
I know is your chanel and you'll do it, eventually, but I'm still curious about what do you think about the "milling" ;-)
@@JamesonsTravels part 2 this year? ;)
I've done recreational tandem skydives a few times, loved it each time, no fear, would do it every day if I could, it was so exhilarating. But you couldn't pay me enough to try walking across that 60-foot-high jungle gym!
Yep. Fear of Heights is an unfortunate name. I am happy in a plane but don't like to stand on a chair.
You need to do it to understand it ! But your correct its nothing to do with parachute training or fitness, it does weed out a few guys. Iv worked with the 82nd and the Rangers, they can’t keep up , in the field with Para Reg fitness. Don’t talk go do !!!
I can singlely say the parachute regiment training course is one of the hardest fitness tests u will ever experience ever in ur life its is emotional
From my experience, the more you hesitate, the less likely you are going to go through with the obstacle course. In such situations, it is down to mental stamina and shear courage.
Trainaism is not to represent jumping.. Its testing confidence with heights, just like the high rope on the ranger course at Bragg, which in fact is unbelievably easy course throughout
It's also to test to see if you go when they say GO! I passed this 3 week course in 1989.when it was tough.
ranger training is not ez at all 🙈
@@paulreeves1787 we pissed all of their tests with total ease
@@onajourney2072 bore off.. Its still nails.. Blokes have done much more on ops than the 89 bunch.... Shit comment
@@manonwax8474 It's fact...you weren't there. Yawn and oh another gobby sprogg.
Mental toughness is always overlooked by people joining up. I've seen lads of 6" plus and 13st struggling on speed marches with weight. I've also seen skinny guys weighing 10st soaking wet breeze it! Mental toughness is something else..you've either got it or you haven't.
The 'ammo' is a 120kg telegraph pole, over 2 miles of ditches/ uphill
Its a 60kg telegraph pole not 120
The tranasium is not to simulate jumping out of a plain it to see if the recruits have bottle at hight which in turn will give them confidence when jumping out a plane the parachute regiment is the best airborne unit in the world
Trinasium is all about nerve.. if u can run over the course overcoming your fears not worrying if u going to fall maybe killing yourself you can overcome juming into battle.. iv done one and yes scary
I was always terrified on the plane, and just fine under canopy.The drills kick in and there's no longer any fear. Spudded in once on a night jump and fractured a vertebrae, had mad twists from a poor exit but never any malfunctions. The ramp on a c130 being down reminded me of a giant tv screen, no vertigo at all, only the knowledge that you'd have to jump out of it. Big difference between that tower and jumping.
Need to do ‘paras: men of war’ way better documentary
Nothing wrong with failure my man. It's how you adapt and overcome that shows the strength of a man. He overcame his failure and learnt that he can do it. These guys a British servicemen and that makes them the best. Failure is just a part of learning
My grandson made it through, very proud of him.
That hill where the guy was being screamed at after getting 3 stripes is looks a lot less steep on video.
Never having to do a log or stretcher run at Catterick again, is a happy feeling.
This and then some.
"gentleman were going to the land of Nod today"
Not with sick chit I'm not staff 😂😂🙋🏻🙋🏻
The trainasium is a part of p coy to see if you can react on a word of command, it translates to exiting a aircraft with no hesitation while also translating to bursting into a room to clear it when your told with no hesitation.
Part 2 absolutely loving these series , best channel on UA-cam !
Shouting at recruits is a terrible way to instruct and incite ‘fear’. If you shout all the time it loses its effectiveness. Its like saying i love you 10 times a day. People don’t fear the extrovert - they fear the introvert. So when the introvert instructor explodes - everyone shuts up and listens properly. The most scariest instructor i ever had was one that didn’t speak and just stared when he was angry.
You hit the nail on the head. Hate heights, but when someone is pushing you out of a plane it's nothing like this useless course.
The trinasium got me, I'm not good with heights unless I have some safety attached. I thought my section commander was going to hit me
The reason the royal marines don't scream at their recruits is because they want them to find the motivation for them selves and dig deep, in the field there won't be someone screaming keep moving they have to find it within themselves
Hi guys! Does anyone know what the cap badge js on 6:11 and why he hasn’t got the normal para cap badge for his beret?
Looks like the royal army physical training corps cap badge but not 100%..
@@neveryoumind560 You are right mate, it is. Cross swords with the Queens Crown on the top.
Jacob Smith PT corp. Para first, then transferred to PT corp
It's a physical training corps badge
Iv watched the whole series, what they dont show u is the lack of sleep these guys have this on p company.. late nights early mornings, midnight beastings.. they get put through the mill
If you cant do the tranasium, it's very unlikely you are going to jump out of a plan. It's not about simulating jumping out of a plane, its determining whether you will go on command without hesitation.
Also worth noting, this is to prove you react on command and will exit the plane on the Green light. If you don't jump, it's a court martial, jail time and quick exit our the regiment (after jail time). This is your job as a para and there is no point in spending the money to train someone up and get them to that jump, to find they don't have the mettle for the job.
I would say the screaming is different, one thing on the run or in field combat. I have been a DI and nothing scares the recruit more then be quit and cool if you inside etc.
Heinz G is it to make them think you don’t give a shit right? Like they start to think you’ve given up on their progress maybe?
Zac Guevara yes its close, i think it has to do with that they don’t want to make you disappointed
it's not a jungle assault kiddy, play ground, it's a confident test, so you don't hesitate on the command when given orders on the word "Standby Go" in the execution of its role no matter what that outcome is & to overcoming fear. It save alot of guys going Brize Norton, who don't have the right attitude. Remember the Para and Airborne brigade are a very robust Regiment and highly professional, were there a high percentage rate go into SF, just like the American 75 Rangers in to Delta.
If you fell out in a run or hump in bootcamp, the corpsman checked your oil with the silver bullet
This is not about simulating jumping from a plane. Its about dealing with your fears, so that you dont freeze when being told to jump from an airplane a x thousands feet into a battle zone.
I don't know what happened to the 1st jump - the balloon jump. When people yell, "Airborne!", few courses have that jump to make and it's the true test.
Agree jumping from planes is no big deal compared to the trainasium which is a bit awkward.
I think what they're looking for is guts and determination. Someone who's perhaps not so super fit but willing to give it their very best shot with lots of determination will get through. They can always work at their fitness and build on it,. but if they haven't got the mind set then they're wasting their own time. IMO only as haven't experienced P Coy but wish them the very best and hope they all pass
The trainasium is only partly testing the ability to jump out of a plane. Paras when jumping in are surrounded 360⁰ by enemy as they are behind enemy lines. When under fire you are going against every nerve and particle of brain matter screaming DO NOT RUN. This is testing your ability to deny your fear and do it anyway as that literally wins battles.
As stated below the trainasium is not to simulate jumping out of an aeroplane. It is a test to deal with fear at height and you still obey commands when they are given such as when you get the green light on to jump. It is all progressive to that stage.
In 1956 the N/serviceman did the Log Race through tank tracks. This looks easy!
It doesn't simulate jumping out of the plane. Its to teach them not to fear heights
If you fear heights, challenge yourself - I'm petrified of heights, so I did a small wall climb, then did a 30 story abseil off a building. You can overcome anything, it is all in the mind.
I done p company back in 1979 they used violence back in the day to get recruit around the course
The tranasium is not about simulating jumping..its about producing a soldier who will react to an order whilst under stress. It is also a right of passage for a airborne soldier, that started in WW2 when this type of test was introduced to select those who would not freeze in the door, at a time in history when only a very elite few had ever been in a plane, never mind jump out of one!
You missed out the milling. Paras are trained for extreme controlled aggression. The milling part is a very interesting tradition. I'm surprised you missed it out.
yeah milling is a C* my of a thing.controled aggressive.bollocks OC P coy wants to see a fight.not a pussy.i got smashed but kept going and that's what is needed 😂😂😂
I'd never make P Company I can barley jump down a meter+ drop with getting scared so. That's why I'm picking the Royal Artillery.
I did P Company at Aldershot with 1,4 &15th Parachute Regiment and passed first time but failed my Basic Recruit Course. However I loved every second.
Paras, I don’t understand why but everyone hates them. I respect them as they do a lot more difficult stuff than us (regular inf soldier in training at Catterick)
One part jealousy, one part confusion, one part actual annoyance (paras also suffer from big headed arrogance - not entirely unwarranted but it rubs people the wrong way)
The perpous of the trainazium is to control fear and keep a clear head. It is a clear demonstration to the training staff that you can do that.
Fantastic video. And the fact that you said the first loser I like. Simply because these days everybody's the last winner (there is no such thing in my opinion and certainly wasn't when I was playing football in HS 25yrs ago)....damn...feeling old.
God forbid anyone gets their feelings hurt. As you stated, lot of paratroopers do it and hate it at the same time. That translates into a lot of areas in life where you hate it and you're miserable but you do it anyway. I won't rant, it's Christmas so if you celebrate Christmas then Merry Christmas, if not have a great day anyway!!!
Put that in the comments...love it.
It’s the psychological more than the physical. You right it not representative of actual parachuting.
There were tv progs with the royal marines, purely a PR exercise. I went for their reserves once and they did alot of shouting
Remember doing my P Company before being posted to 16 Air Assault Brigade. Looking back at the age of 44. It’s still the biggest test of my mental fortitude. Mind you still don’t like log runs lol?
Im shit scared of heights, shit scared of skydiving too. Currently waiting for PRAC.
The Trainasium is not about jumping its about acting even when you have fear
The Royal Marines were a group set up specifically because they needed individuals with different talents and were good at forming plans on the fly. The purpose of the marines was to get behind enemy lines and cause as much havoc and damage as possible. For groups like the paras, this isn’t needed as they function more like the regular army.
The Royal marines have been in existence since 1664 naval infantry raised for the dutch Anglo war during the reign of king Charles the 2nd. It wasn't until ww2 that the commando role was transferred from the army to the marines.
What are you waffling on about Joshua?
The Paras were formerly No.2 Commando.
9 Para Sqn RE the hardest pre para ever before we went to P coy 1982 1983 ...82nd Airborne did a day with us and couldn't believe how hard it was.....
My Dad was in the 1980’s P Company doc, in the milling he’s wearing number 15 on his shorts.
if u can't operate with DIs n staff SCREAMING at u how do they expect u to operate with rounds after rounds after rounds going above ur head left right n centre
Went P Company and passed back in the late 1970s, we were addressed as crows not Joes?
I thought "dig out blind" was a Royal Marines saying? Didn't know the Paras also used it.
2nd battalion ROYAL GREEN JACKETS smashed the shit out the paras in palace barracks Hollywood Northern Ireland 1995!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 swift and bold
It’s to build confidence and stop you from hesitating
It's very easy to sit, watch a video and be critical. P Company's Trainasium looks awkward but our Assault course in the bottom field at CTCRM is a ball breaker, and has to be done within 13 minute's. The Paras were conceived in early 1941/42, the Royal Marines came about in 1664.
However the Commando role came out around the same time Para Regt were formed.
And lets hope it stays this way and not weakened for females in the 80s this was standard training for infantry we did 5 miles full kit 35 pounds as it was then rifles.We also did the stretcher and also the NBC in respirators then gas chamber.Also took the log over the assualt course section effort.And milling was the norm then.However things have changed.
i did the Trinasium in 1990 and the only part i found hard was lifting my feet over the knuckles on the top bars .
There's a 1983 bbc program called paras the maroon machine which is old school . My old man did P coy in the early 80s, I did it in the early 90s and we both came from the Royal regiment of fusiliers, which were just as hard as the paras. Great rivalry especially in the boxing. If we were in the same town or city or training ground you knew squaddies were going hospital
Remember the first series in 83, I was going to join but I joined the Scots guards instead, Didn't really fancy jumping out of a plain. The platoon sargeant from that first series , a geordie became a staff sergeant at Brecon and I met him when I was on a mortar shoot a few years later, a tough breed .
You are always bashing the Royal Marine Commandos, I feel you really need to do more research before you criticise. You do realise that the 32 week Commando training is the longest and most difficult "basic" infantry training in the WORLD?! Furthermore, our elite regiments such as P company and the Commandos are the oldest and most finely tuned, you yanks learnt from these guys 80 years ago... they were the first shock trooper regiments to ever exsist.
Never bashed them. The first video I did the recruits sucked. Hard stop.
@@JamesonsTravels I agree, and I'm a serving Royal Marine! Joke's aside that show you watched was created specifically with the approval of the Royal Marines to attract potential recruits that would have been too intimidated by our previous advertising tag line of "99.9% need not apply". The classic 'throw shit at a wall and see what sticks' method. That show does not reflect the average recruit or the 'darker' parts of training (the parts you would enjoy). Check out Commando On The Front Line by Chris Terrell for a more accurate depiction.
Royal Marines and Paras: much better than anything the Americans have got! Both can actually use their brains for a start.
Jamesons Travels another vote for “Commando on the frontline”, fantastic series. Also check out “ 55 year old Commando”, by the same film maker of “ Commando on the frontline”.
Will S lol dumbass
3:04 Parachuting is MUCH easier than the Trainasium. I've jumped from the balloon, Hercules - day and night - and have done freefall. The Trainasium's really there to test a man's ability to follow crazy orders when stressed and daunted, it's much like the VDV's principle of "Train hard, fight easy". Those safety bars along the runways and the safety nets are BS. We didn't have them in the 1980s.
5:13 The optical illusion jump. When you're standing up there, it does NOT look possible. It's a two footed jump, no leaping. Logic dictates that it you CAN do it because you saw a member of the training staff do it as a walk-through talk-through before the recruits are let onto it. One guy on my selection missed it but caught the bars. He was allowed to try it again - and did it right the second time. Passed despite his shoulder injury.
7:10 Log Race. It's incredibly painful. Not just on the arm and shoulder but on the lungs. We only saw one log in this but, in my time, you'd have a few. Everyone competing to win, it's run at a stupid fast pace all the way. Agonising. Last log (and stretcher) in gets punished.
On my selection, only 5 of us passed out of 46 who began training.
What way could I prepare for the P company tests ? I’ve got my 2km run to 6m 55s and mid thigh pull and medicine ball throw sorted but have no clue how to prepare myself for the p company tests what did you do in preparation
Just for nerds it's a mile from the PARA camp to the gym and the only person who I heard fell all the way down was a ghurka , but was it military parachuting
I like this! Part 2 please! 🙂
Oh that one has been a while. Perhaps I will start over with it or part 2. Video did not perform well but I do like watching selection since its almost the same for any infantry training at least 30 years ago stuff.
You don't join the best and hardest para regiment in the world whilst scared of heights
The Trainasium is to demonstrate no hesitation to obeying orders.
Waiting for my start date to be sorted as it got cancelled due to covid
The thing about the heights though is that the parachute regiment also fast rope from a helicopter roughly from the same height as the trainasium. Which if they hesitate at it could obviously risk lives by keeping other troops there longer than need be. It’s all about over coming fear, nothing to do with the height itself 👍
It is a test of courage and balls.
Great youtuber for listening to commenters
thanks. i try to cut through the bs
I really like your commentary. I was in the RAF for 12 years and occasionally worked with the US Marines, top guys. Greetings from Glasgow Scotland mate.
Get in. Para reg are the best. Can’t wait to join the reg
Me too brother
The illusions jump is actually just 1m wide but as the name suggests it looks wider because of the emptiness below it
As you alluded to, military fitness is a completely different animal than 'civvy' cross-fitters/ Gym-Queens/athletes! We had to lads in our troop as recruits who were 'ripped' MMA fighters (looked the part of a steely eyed dealers of death!) but neither could hack the speed marches, yomps and being generally very cold, very wet and very tired!
As has been said, the trainasium isn't to do with jumping from a plane. It is a test of the size of your bollocks and the ability to overcome fear immediately, at command.
It's not about fear. Anyone with half a brain would be concerned about tiptoeing up there. It is entirely about obeying orders without hesitation, along with other aspects of para training. Especially milling.
My mate was a PT in p company instantly fit he went in instantly for but he said the log ruined him lol. The kid could do all sorts of gymnastics and run for miles upon miles.
Check out cutting edge p company a 1992 TV documentary about the all arms course
Can I hack it ... I hacked P.coy in 1972.I was an Olympic standard fit young soldier of 22 and loved the challenge of P.coy. we started with 126 candidates on the course and with 24 candidates left on the last day. The entire course was a KILLER. The most physically demanding thing I will ever do.
No.. So I joined the Royal Navy! Happy days ⚓👌🍻