MY SOUND VS 5 DIFFERNT MOUTHPIECES
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- www.scottpaddocksaxschool.com • STUDY SAX WITH SCOTT PADDOCK
In this video, I demonstrate just how much my mouthpiece affects my sound by playing 5 different mouthpieces along with my normal setup. Can you hear a difference in my sound? Which mouthpiece do you like most? Leave a comment below.
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0:00 Intro
1:15 Barkley Brazil Kustom Pop 7 Blue
2:45 Meyer 6 (Bob Ackerman)
6:11 Syos Custom
8:51 Martin
8:35 Barkley Brazil Vintage 5
12:34 Selmer C*
16:20 Wrap Up
17:11 Important Info
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Scott Plays:
P. Mauriat 67RX Influence alto sax
Barkley Brazil Kustom Pop 7 Blue mouthpiece
Legere American Cut 2.25 reeds
BG Silver Duo ligature
Great video Scott! Your sound is amazing. The Barkley Brazil was definitely the best one in my opinion. The Syos was close to the Barkley Brazil. I’m still curious to see you playing a metal mouthpiece like a Guardala. With such huge sound, this experiment would be very interesting.
Thanks Marcio! I don't like the way metal mouthpieces feel in my mouth. I've never liked playing them.
Yes. I am looking into the Verdot (9) myself
Escalas mouthpieces:
Barkley Kustom Pop 7 1:21
Meyer 6 4:18
Syos custom 7:05
Barkley Vintage 11:01
Selmer c star 13:27
Fly to the moon:
Barkley Kustom Pop 7 1:29
Meyer 6 4:33
Syos custom 7:19
Barkley Vintage 11:18
Selmer c star 13:41
The Martin best reflected my sound.
😂 me too. This video just confirmed to me, that i need to get a new mouthpiece
I love your honest straight up video, great job thank you
Awesome! Thank you for demonstrating the important of the mouthpiece! Seriously answered so many of my questions
I know you dig that blue piece, and it's your go-to- but boy, do you sound so much better on the meyer.
You sound sooo good on that meyer.
I played that Meyer for a very long time and never thought I would switch. For jazz and ballads, it definitely has a great sound. For what I play most of the time these days - the Barkley is the best fit. Some people change their gear depending on the style of music they are playing, I like to keep it simple and play the same thing all the time. The only exception would be for classical music.
Great video. You helped clarify how different set ups can affect the sound one is trying to achieve without changing a thing on your musical approach. The Martin demo was hilarious!
The Martin cracked me up-the high point of my day!!! Really interesting Scott. Thank you very much!!
A brilliant video, thank you.
I like the brazil and the syos. You sound great on both!
Great job! 👏
Barkley Shadow White is the winner! Great fat and crispy sound!
I have the same Barkley Kustome Pop in Red. Love it too. Scott do have a great sound to be fair. Top man Scott. The Reed I found works best on my mp is a Fibracell 3
I tried Fribracell and liked the way they played a lot but they completely died on me after a week. I went all the way up to a 4.5 and they still kept dying on me. Glad to hear that they are working well for you!
Great sound, thanks for this video.
Thank you!
Mouthpiece makes a difference to play altissimo, wow learning this AM.
Nice test! For your style I would chose the Syos. I love the Mayer but its a different thing. Regards
The best sax teacher!
The Barkley Brazil Blue Pop is the best. It’s more focused and right on the edge of buzzy. I was surprised of the differences between them all.
Damn, that Selmer C! Other than what you note about its restriction, it sounds great.
Hi Scott I've got exactly the same setup - inspired me to move onto the P Mauriat 67RX - love the Barkley Brazil - prefer the darker sound now use a Jody Jazz HR Star 7 - love your channel been following you since day 1 regards Paul
Important lesson: Match the reed strength to the mouthpiece. Keeping the same reed strength only works if all the tip openings remain similar. That's a big reason you got nothing out of the Martin. Here's a tip about tip openings: Stiffer reeds for smaller tip openings and softer reeds for larger tip opening.
True & True! For this video, I wanted to keep my gear the same, but if I were trying to play any of these in a real setting, I would find the best reed match for each mp.
Interesting!
Sou do Brasil e tem muito saxofonista q ainda não gosta das boquilha barkley ! Preferem as marcas exteriores! Mas são excelentes boquilha com preço muito bom! Minha preferida barkley vintage zz ébano 👍
Bro this man is a animal! He makes it look easy!
You sound great with most of them
I have a Martin mouthpiece like yours and mine is a #3 which is probably for a beginning student with small lungs. I made a baffle for mine but really didn't do much.
I have a BB Vintage and had to modify it to get it more free blowing and now I like it, I also got one for my soprano and did the same modification.
What did you do to modify it? I think that is the first horseshoe chamber I've ever played on.
Martin mouthpiece, ha ha, think that must be my trouble! Never realised mouthpiece made so much difference always thought it was the Reed grade...there you go, profound moment for a beginner. I only just realised you recently through the caravan colab you done with Jamie...outstanding stuff.
Helpful comparison. I liked the sound of the Meyer on the ballad! Martin - LOL!
That Martin wasn't giving up a single note!
I Like the Martin much!
😑😑😑 😅😂🤣
to me Barkley Brazil Vintage 5 sounds the best, hope can try this on my yanagisawa one day
I find the Meyer sounds the best though it's a little too silent. I selv play a Meyer NY 7 and has a marvelous sound and it's loud.
Along with another commenter, I would have liked you to adjust the reed strength to match the mouthpiece openings so that we could hear you apply your air flow and control more fully on the different mouthpieces. I, too, played a Selmer C* in college, then switched to a Selmer S-80 C** shortly after the S-80 came out(that shows my age!). I played jazz and classical on it until I ventured further to get a LeBayle for Jazz just to get a bigger air flow and sound.
I love my Barkley blue 7 but my favorite its my metal Beechler 7
GREAT MODERN SOUND, 100%
Hey you still make that Selmer scream! Excellent video!
Thanks for the video! Even on the Selmer C* you sound like yourself (especially with the D scale)
Great video! For jazz and ballad, I would go for the Meyer. Some information on the current price range would have been interesting (if available).
I only paid for the Meyer and that was about 20 years ago. It was $175 then. The rest were either given to me free or I acquired them along the way. I think the Barkleys, the C* & the Syos are all around $200 new now.
Fun video Scott. I hung with Richie Cole about 30 years ago and one night at a jam he handed me his horn to finish a song. I could barely get a sound out of the Lakey 4*4 and soft reed he was playing at the time. I couldn’t believe he got his big sound out of that mouthpiece.
Hey Dan! Same thing happened to me with one of my sax teachers - Ron Diehl. He let me play his mp, and I could barely get a sound on it. That's when I realized that playing someone else's gear won't give you their sound.
You may have needed what was in Richie’s system at the time; it would relax all the muscles in your body…
@@Osnosis It was vodka ;-)
My thoughts:
Meyer- Same core tone as BB Kustom, but less power. More subtleties and personality, IMO.
SYOS - Big sound, similar core sound and power. Very bright. sorta buzzy?
The Martin- Huge tone! Sounds like you, but you with no lower lip. :)
BB Vintage 5- very prone to overblow like you said, which can be fun, but pinched sound. Overtones sounded great, to me.
Selmer C* - smooth sound, very low power, but classy. Funny how Altissimo evaded you, seeing as you just kill in Altissimo range.
Thanks for the fun! You are a gifted teacher and player, and I value your skills and technique, which has definitely helped me in my saxophone playing. I've learned (read: made sense of) more from you in the past few months than I have in my last 40 years of sax playing. I tip my hat to you!
BTW: Have you ever tried any mouthpiece(s) from Phil-Tone? If not, please do so!
yuu sounded like myyyyself…with tha martin 😆
🤣😅🤣
Hey Scott, great video, thank you! I play your signature mouthpiece on tenor and I‘m so happy with the sound - it‘s „in your face“ - to say it in your words.
I‘d really like to know which Syos mouthpiece you played in this video? Is it possible to find out? It sounds great and I wanna have it 😀.
Thank you very much!
I didnt mind the C* or the meyer....but still fantastic with all.
Sir please how do you bridge the gap between the lower and upper register of the sax
Love your tone, Scott. You still sound like yourself no matter what mouthpiece you use. However, I have noticed that there is a ring or edge (I don't know how to describe it) to your sound, even on the C*. Does it sound naturally like that or you did some EQ to it?
Hi Scott, try a Vandoren Jumbo Java A45 vs Barkley Pop Custom 7, please!!!
Thanks Scott, try soaking the Meyer in white vinegar, you should see some bubbles coming from the calcium deposits as opposites react.
Hey PB, I did, you should have seen it before 😳😳😳 It's super old, and has lost all of it's finish coat so things stick to it and don't want to come off.
Great video. Thanks very well done Dick
The Martin mouthpiece probably has a ridiculously closed tip opening, much like many mouthpiece of its time. The air you put through it isn’t vibrating the reed at all, it’s just closing it off lol
Yeah, that Martin didn't want anything to do with me! 🤣😂😅
@@ScottPaddock you could sell that too a classical player for a pretty penny XD
Great video. Love your sound on the Barkley Brazil. Just wondering how difficult it is to order a Barkley. Company seems to be outside of US. Wondering if there are any us distributors for this mouthpiece. Thanks 🎷
I have never ordered one, they just send them to me, but I do know they have a website in English and do offer international shipping. barkleymouthpieces.com
I think if you had some harder reeds for the lower tip openings, you would sound similar across all off them. I find if I play a mouthpiece for a little while, I adjust my embouchure and move towards a similar sound, and will pick reeds that get me closer.
Mouthpiece makes a difference but it's maybe 10%. Since you're a pro that 10% - the right amount edge, buzz, brightness - is really important.
But the most important takeaway is that you can get a GOOD sound out of every mouthpiece but the Martin, and I'd love to see you try that one with the right reed so it doesn't shut off on you because I'm sure you'd be able to sound great on that too!
Agreed!
I feel like if I would have adjusted the volume in post production for each mp I would have sounded very similar on a lot of them. The BB is sooooo much louder and that is what my recording gear is set at.
Sorry for the poor grammar in my last question. I forgot to mention, that I have a Meyer #6 tip size, with a medium size chamber.
The SYOS sounded very close to the Barkley. It could be a good backup for you.
Yeah, it's pretty close. I have a couple Barkley's as my backup, but yeah that is definitely the close 2nd.
Hi Scott, excellent! I ask you, do you know why some saxophones warble when low notes are played? for example D, C#, C, B and low Bb? I will appreciate your answer if you have it. It strikes me that by putting something similar to a wine bottle stopper, this effect disappears. From Argentina...Silverio
Hey Sil, that usually means that your saxophone has some leaks. Those low notes get all kinds of gargles in the sound when you need to take your horn to the repair shop
Eres el mejor 🌹🤝👈👍
What’s the recipe for that bzz (rocker) sound, especially on tenor? I don't mean growling. I use your syos mouthpiece on the tenor and it sounds great and is very responsive, but I would like to have a scooped mid sound with bzz like you have on the tenor (as well as the alto). Thanks.
FAST AIR! Center your air in the dead center of your mouthpiece and get it going really fast. The more your reed vibrates the fatter your sound will be.
Hi Scott hope you're fine well it seems barkley brazil best sound and fits on your ambochour. In my opinion everybody have different sound and different mouth piece fits his ambochour for me the yamaha 5 fits for me till while I bought the v16 vendoren and it didn't sounds good for me i don't know what do with it 🤦♂️
Agreed, and yeah it's tough to get the perfect match.
Great video Scott. I felt the meyer was the round sound I enjoyed most.
But the way you talk suits the brazil. Similar tough guy. Rayofhope. Cheers.
10:10 sounds like me with my best setup when i started. xD
Stick with the Brazil , superior for your playing.
I play a meyer 6 and am interested in The Barkley (or similar type). Can I ask you from a meyer 6 (.076) to a Barkley 7 (.087) that's a pretty huge difference in size. But how different does the blowing strength actually FEEL like? Thanks for a great video
Hey! They feel completely different. Not even in the same ballpark.
@@ScottPaddock I was afraid you'd say that! Was that regardless of size? Or perhaps finding a smaller size would help get the general feeling closer?
@@alvincornistamusic8754 No, it's just the way they are made. It's like driving a sports car and a minivan. Even though they are both cars they feel completely different when you are sitting behind the wheel. Same with these two mouthpieces, although neither one sounds like a minvan 🤣🤣😂
@@ScottPaddock ayt gotcha! Any size recommendation for someone who's played meyer 6's and link 6's for decades?
Hi Scott
Do You plan to set-up same test with tenor sax ?
This Scott
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White Barkley is much easier to listen to-needs a harder reed. The sound of all these would be appropriate in settings with LOTS of volume from amplified instruments. I wish I could a hear a more acoustic approach. The Legere sounds thin and bright, although it might sound better in person with natural acoustics. Or when competing with electric guitars and synths.
This is a great indication of how a MP can change your sound. Scott has a very unique sound anyway. Is that the reed or the material the horn is made from that gives that unique sound? I am 5 weeks in to my sax journey so any info would be amazing. Thanks
5 weeks in, you just need solid gear to get a good sound. Until you really dial in the way the air is going into the saxophone upgrading your gear won't make much of a difference. Once you've got your embouchure and airflow locked in, a good reed is where it all starts (but you need that from the very beginning), followed by a mouthpiece which will have a significant change in your sound, then finally the sax which will have some effect on your sound. Hope that helps.
@@ScottPaddock Thanks Scott for the response. Much appreciated!
I'm surprised anyone can make a legere 2.25 sound this good. I have a 2.5 classic and it's not hard to overblow and doesn't have a very focused sound on any of my mouthpieces. I only use it for practice but my cane reeds all sound worlds better to me.
Anyways I agree you sound best and most comfortable on the Barkley.
Hey Russell, the American Cut & Signature play and feel way different than the Classic. When I use to use to cane I played a 3 soft. A lot of it has to do with what other gear you're using. On tenor I use a 3.25 Signature on tenor.
@@ScottPaddock the American Cut is great, but does not last as long a the Signature. I’m think it’s tapered a little more at the tip, so it breaks more easily. I really like the sound and have gone up a strength from the Signature on both alto and tenor.
@@Osnosis They last about the same for me, but the Signature starts to get a whiney sound for me when it is dying. The American Cut hangs on pretty strong. I usually get about a month or so out of a reed. I should be better about switching between a few reeds instead of playing one into the ground 😁
1. Do you think that your Barkley Brazil, Custom Pop 7 Blue will work well for developing a circular breathing technique?
2. I checked the Barkley website, while the Barkley Brazil Custom Pop 7 Blue, has a high step baffle, a #7 tip size, and a large chamber. Do you feel that you have to put a lot of air into it? (I play a Meyer New York, #6 with a high roll-over baffle for a versatile bright sound.)
Thanks.
Hey, once you learn how to circular breath you should be able to do it on any mp you play.
I have very fast moving focused air, but I still get a great sound on my Barkely Brazil even when I'm trying to play softer and fuzzy. However, be warned this is a VERY VERY bright modern sounding mp.
Hola Scott, soy Julio de México y me gustaría comprar la mouthpiece Barkeley, en dónde la puedo comprar. Gracias por tus comentarios y saludos
ebay...no mercado libre ..ebay
salen como en 300 dllrs
Muchas gracias
Do you not tighten you receiver screw, or do you take your neck off with screw tightened?
I don't comment on this very often, because I don't want anyone to follow my example... but I prefer a loose-ish fitting neck. When the neck has a tight fit, I literally can't get the air through it. My repair guy tightened it one time without talking to me in advance, and it was a disaster. He loosened it back up while I waited and he couldn't believe the huge difference it made in my sound. It doesn't really make any sense, but it works for me. A sax that I played on for several years had a naturally loose fitting neck that I never had fixed, so I think I just adjusted to playing like that. I think David Sanborn has his set up the same way. So yeah, I barely tighten my neck - just enough so it doesn't fall off or swing around when I move the sax. I don't suggest anyone else use this type of neck setup.
@@ScottPaddock I never noticed that before. Sanborn can almost swing his all the way around it’s so loose. It would drive me nuts to have it loose. Everybody is a little different.
@@robertnorris8096 Yeah, I've never tightened much, and didn't realize how big of a deal it was until my sax tech tightened it and I could hardly play it. That probably also explains why I dislike playing most saxes... they all have good fitting necks 🤣😂😅
Switch back to Meyer.It sounded so much better.
Super video. You can sound great on piece of shit if you want. :D
Like you I'm using high baffle mouthpieces and I like the bright and loud side of them. I'm using also yours Syos on tenor. I did noticed that if I'm playing loud and with lot of air, my sound and intonation is good and I'f I play it softer it's become weak and unstabile. How to owercome that?
The meyer sounded the best on the ballad!
Yeah, it's set up for a more jazz setting. I really liked the subtone on the SYOS. That's why I held that note so long at the end 😁😁
You should compare cane reeds to synthetic reeds
I might get PTSD if I try and play a cane reed 🤣😅😂 - Still in Germany?
@@ScottPaddock yes still here.
Your Fly Me To The Moon sounds like a Christmas song.
Merry Christmas! 😎
Hey, Scott! Love the video. I prefer your sound on the Barkley Brazil Vintage because I prefer a more warm, round and mellow sound to a sharp, bright one. This mouthpiece has "tamed" your usual "aggressive" sound (which suits me fine).
Compared to your preferred mouthpiece, does the vintage have a lower baffle? I tend to get the sound I prefer from a low baffle, medium strength reed and 5-7 tip opening.
Hope you are well!
Hey Alex, yeah, that one is pretty far from my regular sound and it definitely reels in my aggressive side. I was surprised how much I liked it when I heard myself on the recordings. Definitely a mellow sound. I'd like to try it with a stiffer reed and see what happens. It doesn't have much of a baffle, but it has a horseshoe chamber which definitely effects the airstream.
your original Meyer
is more subdued than the Barkley Brazil. A world of difference in sound spectrum
SYOS is the best you sound on
Reverb masks the sound
The difference between any two bright-ish pro level mouthpieces is never going to be super drastic, but the difference between the stock pos that everyone has lying around and any of these will be huge. You can’t sound like yourself on those. Upgrade.
Meyer won here, to my ears.
The Meyer has the best tone by far, its sweeter and has a beautiful Jazz sound, Syos belongs in a crackerjack box,
Brazil is way in your face, goid for funk not Jazz
Agreed on the SYOS. They were a fad. I don't know anyone who plays one without getting paid to do it (or at least gets free ones).
@@MattCouzensMusic we don't pay ambassadors, they get a share for every sale of their Signature model. It's only natural they get their mouthpiece for free since it's the product of a partnership. They wouldn't play Syos if it sucked, it would take away from the quality of their performance and end up damaging their own brand. As far as being a fad goes, we'll keep pushing the envelope as long as we're around :)
@@Syosmusic 😆🤣😂
@@Syosmusic Scott's sponsorships include:
P. Mauriat, Legere Reeds, BG France, Barkley Brazil, Syos, and Key Leaves
He's earned it. He's a great player and has reached a level of success that only comes from years of hard work. But if you think he would have bought four Mark VI or SBA or whatever instead of taking four free P.Muriats, you're just being silly. It works. Several of my students have bought Legere, Theo Wayne, and Syos because of people like Scott, Leo P., Moon Hooch, Lucky Chops, Derek Brown, and on and on. Kids think they can buy good sound because of sponsorships like these. That is literally what you're hoping. You're not giving him free stuff and a % of certain sales because you're just so nice and generous. 😆 So I take their horn and sterilize the MPC and play it for them. And they're shocked at how much better it plays when I do it. Then we go back into discussing breath support, embourchure, etc. I tell them they already have a decent mouthpiece and reed setup for horn and they need to work hard to sound good, not spend money. I'm not against buying good gear, believe me. But I am against the perception you cultivate that your product is a shortcut to something that is only earn with work.
I'm assuming this is Pauline again?
Yes, you're paying him. You literally said he gets free mouthpieces *and* a % of his signature model when he pushes them for you. You can't have it both way. Sorry.
Scott, no disrespect. You have made it clear you endorse these but first one needs to work on breath and embourchure etc. It's SYOS that I disagree with and their inability to let it lie when someone is critical of their products or business model. This is not the first time they have made a transparent defense of themselves when I have expressed my opinion about them online. It's toxic. But that's not on you. You're doing you thing. Peace ✌☮🕊🏳
@@MattCouzensMusic while I TOTALLY agree with your summation on getting/having a good sign, the professional is looking for a mpc that is the easiest to achieve that sound. I love my SYOS, but do play a Lamberson or Francois Louis in a big band setting (for better blending). That’s on tenor. Alto is a Berg Larsen, and soprano is Selmer D Scroll (metal). YMMV.
the meyer is the best...the others sound like kenny g...
I think you will always sounds like the sound in your head, nomatter what mouthpiece you play....
Not sure why you're wasting time on the Martin and your old Meyer. Folk are looking to play the latest quality pieces like the Jody Jazz / Better Sax Burnin', Windy City Woodwind / Theo Wanne '56, and the latest SYOS Originals. Purely MHO but this vid is not up to your usual tight, well researched standard, man.
Hey, I think you might have missed the point of my video. It wasn't to introduce mouthpieces that people might want to buy, it was to show how much different mouthpieces affected the way I sound. Here's the video description "In this video, I demonstrate just how much my mouthpiece affects my sound by playing 5 different mouthpieces along with my normal setup. Can you hear a difference in my sound?"
@@ScottPaddock apologies you’re right, I’ll get my coat