I also have two questions. 1. Why didn't the Germans use Artillery before attacking Tobruk because that's what they actually did. 2. Why didn't the Germans use dive bombers either? They also used those during the battle of Tobruk. EDIT BELOW I'm going to edit this to add some key points for people to understand. 1. This is not The Battle of Tobruk, I went through my notes of this era of the war again and saw that I was mistaken so sorry for that. This is The Battle of Gazala. 2. In this battle the allies were composed of British, South African, Indian, and Free French forces. The Axis were composed of Germans and Italians. 3. In this battle the Axis won.
Macklin John Dismiss my last comment please. The title of this video is confusing everyone. This is not The Siege or Battle of Tobruk. This video is showing The Battle of Gazala. But even saying that the video is not 100% accurate at all. Look at the edited portion of my comment above to see why.
why are you being so salty about this, diplex does these videos for entertainment not for a bunch of you history geeks to wank over, yes he got parts of this battle wrong who gives a fuck, its a fucking UA-cam and he makes these for entertainment, does it really have to be history appropriate 24/7? like seriously he puts a lot of effort into these (even if there not historically accurate there still a pain in the arse to make) so stop being so fucking judgemental and picky, just enjoy the damn vid... (also its super fucking hard to script planes into a battle) that's most likely the reason why they aren't in here)
Hlarmy1 If you say "Historically Accurate" you have to do it Historically Accurate. If he never would have said this Battle is 99% historically accurate then I wouldn't have said anything. But since he did I have to. Why is it that your generation doesn't care about the GI Generation at all? It's important history. If they never existed you would be speaking German or Japanese right now. (Also if you couldn't script planes, which I've seen him do before, you can easily script artillery fire because the Germans constantly used Artillery bombardments on the Allies during this battle.)
Ok lets get this straight, i love history i love WWII all im trying to say is no need to go so harsh on him, he try's his hardest and gets constant abuse, also assuming im part of this "newer generation" and saying i dont care about are past history are biased, i love WWII history i research watch documentaries most of the games i play are ww2 , idk why you assumed i didn't like history, i love history but i know from playing this game its a pain in the arse to script things and i get its not historically accurate but diplex spends shit tons of time on these, just cut him some slack at least...
Once again, another great video Diplex, you never fail to impress me. It's nice to always come home after a day of Football practice, sweating in the sun for hours, and just sit down and relax to a video of yours. Also, I'm starting to like Squad, It's pretty interesting. Btw.. Harry Fox, Diplex already made the scenario in one of his older videos around one to two years ago.
Hey Diplex, a suggestion not linked to the video but to your Modern Warfare (World War 3) series, my favorite one, its a game called World in Conflict, I dont know if you know, but its like the storyline you did in those series but in the cold war. A great game, the best Real Time Strategy that I played, its a little under the radar, and the devs are giving the complete editon of the game for free now. Worth a try. Great battle btw.
Wow would not believe your eyes If 10 thousand fireflies Surrounded Berlin as you fell asleep Cause shells fill the open air And leave bodies everywhere You'd think me lazy But I would just stand and stare
I think those fireflys did a fair amount of work on that play through, Strongly believe if they were swapped out for Cromwell's or Crusader's things would have been a bit different.
Germans started to tweak their guns because they switched their tank doctrine from tanks as infantry support (I am currently talking about pz4s and stugs,the pz3s were first used as anti tank tanks and eventually switched to anti infantry support role.Pz3s got upgraded from short 37mm to short 50mm and then to long 50mm and then to short 75mm which was used by pz3 n ) to anti tank roles (hence why most german tanks in later stages of the war used high velocity 75 and 75+ mm canons(like the 88 etc.)
Hmm fireflys in north africa and 1942? im pretty sure they were not introduced until 1944 and the brits didnt have shermans by this point only Grant's/Lee's. Crusaders,Valentines and matilda 2's.
Next men of war video going to be the Battle of Stalingrad with my map? I've waited for ages to see you play it :( Nice video btw, Pershing always does epic missions!
I think the Germans would of shelled the front line after the first wave scout them out then try another attack see if it has made any change too the defences. other than that good map.
paul hamilton This video isn't historically accurate, he claims it is but he is false. This is The Battle of Gazala not Tobruk. In this battle the Germans shelled and bombed the Allies before even pushing into the town/battle.
do a German paratrooper drop on the uk coastal defences then send in some German landing craft too shore up the German defence before a counter attack by the brits
Hey Diplex, idk if the content is out there, but you ever thinking of using Wolfenstein Nazis against different factions like Empire and such? Or maybe fortress defense. Could be cool to try something totally new.
If you're going to be doing minor nation battles, then how about the battle of tali-ihantala? it's the largest battle fought in a nordic country after all
Diplex, please do a scenario with Finland at some time, or maybe a scenario with the Balkan nations. Or perhaps some alternate history: What if Lithuania didn't surrender Memel to Germany? What if King Zog of Albania didn't fold to Mussolini's demands?
CheatWolf The Firefly didn't even exist yet in 1942. Also the Allies forces in Africa during this battle didn't even have M4 Shermans either so I don't know why he put them in it or said it was historically accurate.
Pablo Burritochi call to arms is a modern tale on the men of war series with updated graphics, however it lacks the community and feel of men of war. most modders have stuck to men of war so don't expect many mods for call to arms. the only reason I play call to arms is because the first person, it laggy but cool to use.
Pablo Burritochi call to arms is still in early access so it's hard to say anything about it as it might change in the future but the controls for call to arms are relatively the same as men of war assault squad 2. The AI might have improved but nothing too drastically as its not very noticeable. Call to arms has world war 2 mods but they can be glitch at times. To be honest the only reason I got call to arms was for the first person controls. the modern feel of it so far feels somewhat less of what it was in the men of war series. not sure if it's a lack of variety in units or what. And if your looking for modern thab men of war assault squad has many mods for that, Red rising is a good mod and adds way more vehicles and units than call to arms. to put it simply call to arms is just another graphics improvement with first person controls. but it's still in early access as I've said before. so it's really up to you whether you want a complete game or a better looking game. (though the devs are working on call to arms and updates are regular.)
Ja dat zou super cool zijn!! Duitsland tegen Nederland en dan rond de Grebbeberg bijvoorbeeld! (That would be cool! Germany VS Holland located around the Grebbeberg.)
Diplex please don't take any offense by this but please can you do the 2nd wasteland series!!! Like if you agree! I also really enjoyed the 2 inside senarios!
Also, I really wish the creators would in-balance this game! Honestly, in real life, a Sherman Tank could never take a side hit like that twice from a Panzer IV!!
Hi diplex if it means anything i Loved the video it was extremly entertaining and fun to watch by far so don't worry to much about these people pointing out the historical inaccuracies because at the end of the day its just a game and on a side note to that guy who said this generation is going to hell well take a look at yourself trying to point out the historical accuracies on a bloody pc a game a flippin game if games were so historically accurate as you claim you want them to be then you would start whining about how games aren't fun grow up a bit mr army veteran my uncle served in the British army he doesnt go fucking bragging around about it on a youtube comments section i understand you may be proud but you need to understand that just because someone has a different opinion to yours doesnt mean his generation is shit or didnt they teach you that on your basic training.
What? xD Fireflys, Pzkpfw IV (G and H) with skirts and american AT guns in 1942 in Africa? xD Where are matildas, pzkpfw III with 37mm guns, Pzkpfw IV F2 and british 2-pounder AT guns?
Action starts @ 2:20
You could do operation sea lion. Good chance to get some more German beach assaults. And it would be a cool 'what if'
Speaking of 'what if' scenarios, a Japanese amphibious assault on Pearl Harbor in 1943 after winning at Midway would be cool, too.
Harry Fox he already did that
Harry Fox
I believe Diplex has already done that.
I wanted to try that with Valour mod, but I couldn't install it properly so I never did it.
ComradeVlad Ah thanks. Didn't realise!
I also have two questions.
1. Why didn't the Germans use Artillery before attacking Tobruk because that's what they actually did.
2. Why didn't the Germans use dive bombers either? They also used those during the battle of Tobruk.
EDIT BELOW
I'm going to edit this to add some key points for people to understand.
1. This is not The Battle of Tobruk, I went through my notes of this era of the war again and saw that I was mistaken so sorry for that. This is The Battle of Gazala.
2. In this battle the allies were composed of British, South African, Indian, and Free French forces. The Axis were composed of Germans and Italians.
3. In this battle the Axis won.
Nous Resterons La and why weren't there any Aussies in the vid?
Macklin John Dismiss my last comment please. The title of this video is confusing everyone. This is not The Siege or Battle of Tobruk. This video is showing The Battle of Gazala.
But even saying that the video is not 100% accurate at all. Look at the edited portion of my comment above to see why.
why are you being so salty about this, diplex does these videos for entertainment not for a bunch of you history geeks to wank over, yes he got parts of this battle wrong who gives a fuck, its a fucking UA-cam and he makes these for entertainment, does it really have to be history appropriate 24/7? like seriously he puts a lot of effort into these (even if there not historically accurate there still a pain in the arse to make) so stop being so fucking judgemental and picky, just enjoy the damn vid...
(also its super fucking hard to script planes into a battle) that's most likely the reason why they aren't in here)
Hlarmy1 If you say "Historically Accurate" you have to do it Historically Accurate. If he never would have said this Battle is 99% historically accurate then I wouldn't have said anything.
But since he did I have to.
Why is it that your generation doesn't care about the GI Generation at all? It's important history. If they never existed you would be speaking German or Japanese right now.
(Also if you couldn't script planes, which I've seen him do before, you can easily script artillery fire because the Germans constantly used Artillery bombardments on the Allies during this battle.)
Ok lets get this straight, i love history i love WWII all im trying to say is no need to go so harsh on him, he try's his hardest and gets constant abuse, also assuming im part of this "newer generation" and saying i dont care about are past history are biased, i love WWII history i research watch documentaries most of the games i play are ww2 , idk why you assumed i didn't like history, i love history but i know from playing this game its a pain in the arse to script things and i get its not historically accurate but diplex spends shit tons of time on these, just cut him some slack at least...
Once again, another great video Diplex, you never fail to impress me. It's nice to always come home after a day of Football practice, sweating in the sun for hours, and just sit down and relax to a video of yours. Also, I'm starting to like Squad, It's pretty interesting. Btw.. Harry Fox, Diplex already made the scenario in one of his older videos around one to two years ago.
Ian greutman Great video if you like false historically accurate claims in a video.
@@KlLLERROBOT99 you act like a historic out put matters in battle created by diplex
When he said"plenty of infantry still combat active" I was expecting the whole wall to blow up
Yay! Thank you for uploading Diplex! Love your videos!
Here's a less know battle you could recreate for historical accuracy in this game.
The Battle of Walcheren Island during WW2.
Hey Diplex, a suggestion not linked to the video but to your Modern Warfare (World War 3) series, my favorite one, its a game called World in Conflict, I dont know if you know, but its like the storyline you did in those series but in the cold war. A great game, the best Real Time Strategy that I played, its a little under the radar, and the devs are giving the complete editon of the game for free now. Worth a try. Great battle btw.
Wow would not believe your eyes
If 10 thousand fireflies
Surrounded Berlin as you fell asleep
Cause shells fill the open air
And leave bodies everywhere
You'd think me lazy
But I would just stand and stare
could you please do a guide on how you make these missions please
I love your men of war vids they are so good thanks so much for making these they really make my day
Are you going to do Japan invades Us series after Red Rising series
I think those fireflys did a fair amount of work on that play through, Strongly believe if they were swapped out for Cromwell's or Crusader's things would have been a bit different.
Germans started to tweak their guns because they switched their tank doctrine from tanks as infantry support (I am currently talking about pz4s and stugs,the pz3s were first used as anti tank tanks and eventually switched to anti infantry support role.Pz3s got upgraded from short 37mm to short 50mm and then to long 50mm and then to short 75mm which was used by pz3 n )
to anti tank roles (hence why most german tanks in later stages of the war used high velocity 75 and 75+ mm canons(like the 88 etc.)
Hmm fireflys in north africa and 1942? im pretty sure they were not introduced until 1944 and the brits didnt have shermans by this point only Grant's/Lee's. Crusaders,Valentines and matilda 2's.
Next men of war video going to be the Battle of Stalingrad with my map? I've waited for ages to see you play it :( Nice video btw, Pershing always does epic missions!
can we get some GAW diplex? i kinda miss it
Will we see more star wars?
can you do a winter war video
Fantastic video, bloody brutal though!
I think the Germans would of shelled the front line after the first wave scout them out then try another attack see if it has made any change too the defences. other than that good map.
paul hamilton This video isn't historically accurate, he claims it is but he is false.
This is The Battle of Gazala not Tobruk. In this battle the Germans shelled and bombed the Allies before even pushing into the town/battle.
Hey diplex, I´d like to see you make up a couple of scenarios using the warhammer 40k mod. it would be great.
Is there a reason why you don't utilise elevated positions like rooftops?
Is there a panzerjagen or a panzerkampwagen viii maus on it. Would love to see one
Or a panzerkampwagen vi or vii. Just am a tank nerd and would love to see my favourites. 😀
battle starts at 2:16
How to know where diplex is looking follow the destruction that happens as soon as it appears on the screen
do a German paratrooper drop on the uk coastal defences then send in some German landing craft too shore up the German defence before a counter attack by the brits
paul hamilton Kinda like D-Day but reversed, haha.
Hey Diplex, idk if the content is out there, but you ever thinking of using Wolfenstein Nazis against different factions like Empire and such? Or maybe fortress defense. Could be cool to try something totally new.
I like all mowa2 videos don't stop em!
Will there be more Call of Duty, or even some Battlefield base videos?
How did he manage to turn of the damage popups? Thanks !
Why not using some Churchill and crusaders instead of firefly?
If you're going to be doing minor nation battles, then how about the battle of tali-ihantala? it's the largest battle fought in a nordic country after all
Diplex, please do a scenario with Finland at some time, or maybe a scenario with the Balkan nations. Or perhaps some alternate history: What if Lithuania didn't surrender Memel to Germany?
What if King Zog of Albania didn't fold to Mussolini's demands?
"The firefly is here to balance"
It did not balance
CheatWolf The Firefly didn't even exist yet in 1942. Also the Allies forces in Africa during this battle didn't even have M4 Shermans either so I don't know why he put them in it or said it was historically accurate.
The battle starts at 1:57 btw
Hey Diplex, what about an Operation Mercury scenario? Get to see some Fallschirmjäger in action!
Diplex can you make some battles with the Italians? Like when the us army swept through Italy in WW2?
Good Vid!
I dont know if its possible in Men of War but I think a submarine battle would be cool
Played multiplayer vs my dad and a light tank got 274 kills and 23 vehicles. Luchs is op.
Should I get this Men of War 2 or Call to Arms? How are they different?
Pablo Burritochi call to arms is a modern tale on the men of war series with updated graphics, however it lacks the community and feel of men of war. most modders have stuck to men of war so don't expect many mods for call to arms. the only reason I play call to arms is because the first person, it laggy but cool to use.
Thanks. Are the controls, AI, weapon mechanics similar? Since there are modern mods for men of war, what advantage does Call to Arms have?
Pablo Burritochi call to arms is still in early access so it's hard to say anything about it as it might change in the future but the controls for call to arms are relatively the same as men of war assault squad 2. The AI might have improved but nothing too drastically as its not very noticeable. Call to arms has world war 2 mods but they can be glitch at times. To be honest the only reason I got call to arms was for the first person controls. the modern feel of it so far feels somewhat less of what it was in the men of war series. not sure if it's a lack of variety in units or what. And if your looking for modern thab men of war assault squad has many mods for that, Red rising is a good mod and adds way more vehicles and units than call to arms. to put it simply call to arms is just another graphics improvement with first person controls. but it's still in early access as I've said before. so it's really up to you whether you want a complete game or a better looking game. (though the devs are working on call to arms and updates are regular.)
Can you do a air vs ground invasion plz
Can we get a massive infantry on infantry battle?
How do you make missions like these?
What your graphic settings?
I'm early watching the video diplex, why didn't you use the QF 17 whatever it's called, the 76mm AT instead of the Firefly for historical accuracy
This map is just one of the original men of war mission map without the airfield. I think it's from the American campaign.
Was this a mission in cod2?
Could you do a WWII scenario with the French and Germans? We don't see much of the Frenchies in WWII although they were really important.
Ja dat zou super cool zijn!! Duitsland tegen Nederland en dan rond de Grebbeberg bijvoorbeeld!
(That would be cool! Germany VS Holland located around the Grebbeberg.)
Can you make a video of World War 1? That would be nice!!!
Love ww2 content personally I think it's the best 😀
Leon Schuster I would like it too if it was historically accurate.
What about a new postapcalyptic series dude?
Can you make a video with Romanians and Italians defending at Stalingrad
Do a Vietnam scenario plz
The reason stuff die when you look at it is because when you focus on in something the ai just to prove it's working will kill it
wait skycraper? like battlefield 4 one?
AfrikaTanker I think
Good video!! 🤘
Can anyone link me to the mods he uses like this one and red rising, Thanks!
What happened to Star Wars
Eliseo Fuentes ino
Hey Diplex, can you do Bir Hakeim next please? :D
I would love to see a War of the Worlds mod for MOWAS2
10/10 would smash the jerries again :P
Diplex please don't take any offense by this but please can you do the 2nd wasteland series!!!
Like if you agree!
I also really enjoyed the 2 inside senarios!
Looks like the only survivor was a lone German soldier behind a half track..
Jeremy Bain Not historically accurate Battle.
Werw are the squad vida
Last time I was this early, these kind of comments were popular.
Dose anyone know where he gets his maps
da crap Steam Workshop.
da crap Or He created them himself.
da crap Another youtuber also makes it for him, can't remember name
da crap mighty mapper 123
mighty mapper 123 on steam
It would be nice if you could make a battle with Denmark 🙂
1:57 is when the fighting starts
Also, I really wish the creators would in-balance this game! Honestly, in real life, a Sherman Tank could never take a side hit like that twice from a Panzer IV!!
Please do the battle of Westerplate!
Hi diplex if it means anything i Loved the video it was extremly entertaining and fun to watch by far so don't worry to much about these people pointing out the historical inaccuracies because at the end of the day its just a game and on a side note to that guy who said this generation is going to hell well take a look at yourself trying to point out the historical accuracies on a bloody pc a game a flippin game if games were so historically accurate as you claim you want them to be then you would start whining about how games aren't fun grow up a bit mr army veteran my uncle served in the British army he doesnt go fucking bragging around about it on a youtube comments section i understand you may be proud but you need to understand that just because someone has a different opinion to yours doesnt mean his generation is shit or didnt they teach you that on your basic training.
Yes a new video
The Fireflies were in for balancing ???
Nice video
Shermans, pzIV ausf.G in Tobruk ????????????????? Where pz2, valentine, crusader, matilda?
😭😭😭 when one of the major ANZAC battles in WWII doesn't have Anzacs
ayooooo, i am a trobook
Pretty sure there wasn't Sherman's there as well
Sharpe Royalist You are correct. The M4 Shermans came after this battle was lost for the Allies. The newest American tank they had was the M3 Lee.
plz finish the alternate history series, ive been fieining for more of those videos!!!! PLZ!!!!!!!!!
That was the most OP allied defence in gaming history... Sad
the warhammer mod has had a lot of work done on it.
Do a Arena Battle with ww2 Generals and/or politician/Dictators and Emperors.
What? xD Fireflys, Pzkpfw IV (G and H) with skirts and american AT guns in 1942 in Africa? xD
Where are matildas, pzkpfw III with 37mm guns, Pzkpfw IV F2 and british 2-pounder AT guns?
Rule Britannia!!!!
God save the King!!
Pamiętaj młody wnuku że dziadek był w tobruku
Yeah, Shermans, especially the Fireflies, were way overkill of this. Some Matilda's and Tetrarch would have been more accurate. Lovely match though.
Why does diplex hate aussies :'(
messykiller007 He doesn't, they just weren't part of this battle. Wrong title for the video. This is The Battle of Gazala not Tobruk.
High Velocity, Large Caliber.
Toe-brook?
3070Gordo Tobruk.
xD look at the Englisch underline "welcome back to men of war ass old school 2"
I want some ww1 trenches
And Sweden of course, that's a minor WW2 nation.
Do a battle in the netherlands cause i live there
More Star Wars
Ayyyyyy
Diplex u commented on my video 1 day ago, he didn't reply to me 😢
Use more experimental german or russian vehicles plz