This record is really something, Bohor 1's abrasive cacophony really captures my mind well haha. A stellar album filled with ahead of the curve pieces. Now I gotta do a deep dive on Xenakis!
The human being has a finite time on Earth and it is a personal and non-transferable decision what to do and where to apply that time. Bearing in mind that, although there are perhaps millions of subjects with which we can interact, only a few hundred of them will we really have contact with and will use the limited time of our lives with them. So, for all that's most precious, go spend your time on something really good and interesting, not this hideous garbage that sounds like the soundtrack to hell. You can be sure that on the list of things to do before die, the vast majority of things to do in this world are better positioned than listening to or making electroacoustic music.
Lol what? Electroacoustic music ended up influencing a subsequent amount of later musical genres which have changed popular music as we know it today (industrial and electronic music, post-punk, krautrock and noise rock to name a few) there are many things in this world that would not be the same or be in existence right now (which you probably take for granted) just because of these "hideous" sounds. Art influences a lot of things, not just itself. This music came about due to Xenakis fascination with architecture. The 20th century showed us that sometimes there's beauty in the ugly, and there's melody within noise. Those who produced this kind of music have already cemented themselves a spot in history, what have you done?
@@sir.public Let me see... Industrial and electronic music? Post-punk? Krautrock? Noise rock? Is this the legacy of electroacoustic music? No, thank's. If I were forced to rummage through the world's trash, there would still be many better things to choose from. But it is evident that all human manifestations will always influence those that follow. However, that doesn't mean it's not garbage. TikTok dancers are among us to prove it. It's sad to see people being impoverished in everything that really makes a difference on a personal level. The fact is, there are no limits to how bad something can get and still be popular. It is not surprising that illnesses such as depression and anxiety have increased dramatically in recent decades. After all, if everything people eat is junk, it would be very surprising if they were healthy. But anyway, garbage, in principle, is also edible. And if that's what people want to eat, let them eat it. Each one does with his short time, his delicate mind and his precious life what he wants, and no one has the right to stop him.
@@MrDave01 Those genres you listed shaped the face of modern music (but you'd probably call that garbage too). The ball started rolling with the Italian futurists of the 1900s. You might have been one of the people who were left behind. White collar necked, black-tied worker. There's nothing else out here, move in or cop out. No need for that "holier than thou" attitude. Let those enjoy what they wish to enjoy. Here's an apt recommendation for you: The Deviants - Garbage (1968).
You must have only heard pieces you find jarring. Many electro-acoustic artists are quite pleasant on the ears, & even incorporate elements of music a purist such as yourself would consider to be ‘talent’ like melody & rhythm. If you made this argument for not enjoying some noise wall/p.e. type shit I could accept that, but electro-acoustic music in particular has a pretty broadly widened range of what it could sound like that has been explored thoroughly.
I have no idea what these noises coming out of my speakers are but this is definitely not music. This has no melody and no beat or time signature. This is a bunch of chaotic noises, not music
@adam I wouldn't say when you are old and closeminded, lol this music is probably older than your parents, it's kind of weird how most experimental music from the 50s-60s is never listened to by the people who lived through that era, but instead millenials and gen z, were they so ahead that only 21st century listeners can appreciate it?
@@sir.public Not true. It was and still is a minority interest for sure, but plenty of us who grew up during those times listen and did listen to Xenakis, Stockhausen, etc etc.. I remember hearing Xenakis at the age of 14 or 15 in the early 70's and how it fired my imagination. I saw those sounds as patterns of motion and strange images. It made such an impression that I have never forgotten them or where I was when I first heard. I had been left in the car while my parents went off to do something. I put the radio on and tuned to the classical music station which was playing something very like this in an afternoon slot. Parents eventually came back, derisvely dismissed it as rubbish, and tuned back to the chewing gum music station for the musically unevolved masses. I was already way ahead of them in my desire and ability to listen to challenging material.
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So many cool and evocative sounds. Such great movements and placements through space.
This record is really something, Bohor 1's abrasive cacophony really captures my mind well haha. A stellar album filled with ahead of the curve pieces. Now I gotta do a deep dive on Xenakis!
God bless you Xenakis
Thank you Dereck Higgins!
ㄹㅇ 유튭에서 찾고 있었는데 올려놨네 땡큐
VERY GOOD
He was a genius !!!
so good...
Metal machine music1
this is really really good
😴
The human being has a finite time on Earth and it is a personal and non-transferable decision what to do and where to apply that time. Bearing in mind that, although there are perhaps millions of subjects with which we can interact, only a few hundred of them will we really have contact with and will use the limited time of our lives with them.
So, for all that's most precious, go spend your time on something really good and interesting, not this hideous garbage that sounds like the soundtrack to hell.
You can be sure that on the list of things to do before die, the vast majority of things to do in this world are better positioned than listening to or making electroacoustic music.
Lol what? Electroacoustic music ended up influencing a subsequent amount of later musical genres which have changed popular music as we know it today (industrial and electronic music, post-punk, krautrock and noise rock to name a few) there are many things in this world that would not be the same or be in existence right now (which you probably take for granted) just because of these "hideous" sounds. Art influences a lot of things, not just itself. This music came about due to Xenakis fascination with architecture. The 20th century showed us that sometimes there's beauty in the ugly, and there's melody within noise. Those who produced this kind of music have already cemented themselves a spot in history, what have you done?
@@sir.public Let me see... Industrial and electronic music? Post-punk? Krautrock? Noise rock? Is this the legacy of electroacoustic music? No, thank's. If I were forced to rummage through the world's trash, there would still be many better things to choose from. But it is evident that all human manifestations will always influence those that follow. However, that doesn't mean it's not garbage. TikTok dancers are among us to prove it.
It's sad to see people being impoverished in everything that really makes a difference on a personal level. The fact is, there are no limits to how bad something can get and still be popular. It is not surprising that illnesses such as depression and anxiety have increased dramatically in recent decades. After all, if everything people eat is junk, it would be very surprising if they were healthy.
But anyway, garbage, in principle, is also edible. And if that's what people want to eat, let them eat it. Each one does with his short time, his delicate mind and his precious life what he wants, and no one has the right to stop him.
@@MrDave01 Those genres you listed shaped the face of modern music (but you'd probably call that garbage too). The ball started rolling with the Italian futurists of the 1900s. You might have been one of the people who were left behind. White collar necked, black-tied worker. There's nothing else out here, move in or cop out. No need for that "holier than thou" attitude. Let those enjoy what they wish to enjoy. Here's an apt recommendation for you: The Deviants - Garbage (1968).
You must have only heard pieces you find jarring. Many electro-acoustic artists are quite pleasant on the ears, & even incorporate elements of music a purist such as yourself would consider to be ‘talent’ like melody & rhythm.
If you made this argument for not enjoying some noise wall/p.e. type shit I could accept that, but electro-acoustic music in particular has a pretty broadly widened range of what it could sound like that has been explored thoroughly.
this just might be the most self satisfied thing I've ever read
I have no idea what these noises coming out of my speakers are but this is definitely not music. This has no melody and no beat or time signature. This is a bunch of chaotic noises, not music
If this is music then I make full symphonies when I fart
@adam I wouldn't say when you are old and closeminded, lol this music is probably older than your parents, it's kind of weird how most experimental music from the 50s-60s is never listened to by the people who lived through that era, but instead millenials and gen z, were they so ahead that only 21st century listeners can appreciate it?
This is a very limiting eurocentric mindset and I respectfully hope you grow out of it
@@sir.public Not true. It was and still is a minority interest for sure, but plenty of us who grew up during those times listen and did listen to Xenakis, Stockhausen, etc etc.. I remember hearing Xenakis at the age of 14 or 15 in the early 70's and how it fired my imagination. I saw those sounds as patterns of motion and strange images. It made such an impression that I have never forgotten them or where I was when I first heard. I had been left in the car while my parents went off to do something. I put the radio on and tuned to the classical music station which was playing something very like this in an afternoon slot. Parents eventually came back, derisvely dismissed it as rubbish, and tuned back to the chewing gum music station for the musically unevolved masses. I was already way ahead of them in my desire and ability to listen to challenging material.