Blizzard: I don't understand why vdh is so over represented in M+! 🤔 Tettle: so there gonna go sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil...
@@Crisalpha for sure, if you suck you suck but i'd rather see my newbie friend on a pally or bear than a vdh vdh is just harder to play, same like bdk, and it being flavor of the month ofc makes it an issue in medium range keys
@@CrystalzDCUO vdh is far easier to play then paladin rn. Most tanks are broken down by sustained dcds and rotational dcds. Sustained dcds are really hard to mess up, rotational dcds require a lot of dungeon knowledge and not panic overlapping them after a big hit for a new tank. With a new player friendly build, you can easily maintain 100% sigil of flame uptime and 100% of demon spikes uptime versus 100% consecrate uptime. under spikes and sigil, vdh can live much higher keys with nothing else then paladin can with only consecrate making the baseline for learning vdh far easier then it is on paladin. Anyone who plays all tanks will agree that vdh has a much more new player friendly kit
? Lmao tanks haven’t been needing to be healed for a long time in keys going back a few expansions…unless your a monk or warrior and sometimes Druid….most tanks have strong self healing because no healer can spot heal us to full instantly….and if the tank dies…likely so does your run.
@@okkipooky8612 most people quit the game during those times cause of all the bs in the game....i just personally returned and all i see now is bad tanks cause tanks cant die....they will pull aoe mobs, not interrupt any of the 10 and the rest of the group dies and the tank says he is doing nothing wrong
I wonder what weeks groups will try this on. This doesn't seem possible on the fort/bursting week because the bursting will just murder everyone. Even the spiteful week will be tough because you either eat the spitefuls with no healer or you have to move out and dodge juggs.
Spiteful is probably a lot easier, actually. No way a good set of coordinated players gets hit more than a few times in an entire dungeon. You can use Typhoon + Vortex, Mass Entaglement, most sigils, Blastwave, Frost Nova, Ring of Frost, Wing Buffet/Landslide, etc. Bursting has similarly effective strategies for highly coordinated groups. Everyone can play Dwarf. If you have a paladin tank, you also have Spellwarding. Mage and Rogue can immune on their own. Now that Shadow priest is somewhat viable, you can use Mass Dispell. Bursting isn't such a bad affix as long as you kill everything together (i.e., don't roll the debuff) and plan your immunities/Dwarf racial around specific pulls, which players of this level definitely do. With good enough routing and priority damage, you can generally kill everything at the same time. On the other hand, a single cast from a mob with a few stacks of bolstering, and at least one DPS is dead. Of course you can use many of the same tricks I mentioned above to avoid this, but I feel that it's far easier and more punishing to make a mistake. Frankly, Bursting and Spiteful are both affixes that get far easier the higher the key. Not only is it a smaller percentage of the damage, but good coordination can almost delete the affixes entirely.
Taking away the ability to tix talent/spec mistakes would cause way more harm than would be justified. Losing a key to someone accidentally being the wrong spec matters more than some niche strategies at the bleeding edge involving taking the time loss to swap.
@@colecote1432 it's because fire mage specifically was the ONLY one that uncapped AOE. Looks like you don't know mage utility yourself 😂😂 it was only recently that it became uncapped for all classes
@@calvin864 no. You’re not saying mage. You’re saying fire mage. Class utility on the grand scale of identity is independent of spec. That’s the point. It’s broadstrokes. Going into specs is too pedantic. Mage:arcane intellect. Warrior: attack power, dh incrwaed spell damage for all party members, etc. All specs have these. Frost mage doesn’t lose arcane intellect for being frost. death knight’s is grip. All specs can do it and it feels weird having someone else ape the bit.
this just shows how much of a casual gamers WoW has become, bunch of dudes doing a less than perfect run by all means and a dc holds the world first near season end
This was a well executed and smartly strategized run. The world record run will never be perfect, that’s true about all leaderboards. When a new best route is found the first runs that use it will be non optimal. It takes time to be refined. Nothing about this run seems casual to me. Could you say more on what your idea of casual is?
How can it be true that no one cares yet Tettles can get 10s of thousands of views on these types of videos? He didn't even say the game should be changed because of strategies like this.
Haven’t watched yet, but the thumbnail deserves a like already
Blizzard: I don't understand why vdh is so over represented in M+! 🤔
Tettle: so there gonna go sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil sigil, sigil...
+ aug roar
funny tho most vdhs in 16-24 suck and would be better on pally
@@CrystalzDCUO if you suck on a dh, you'll suck on a paladin too.
@@Crisalpha for sure, if you suck you suck but i'd rather see my newbie friend on a pally or bear than a vdh
vdh is just harder to play, same like bdk, and it being flavor of the month ofc makes it an issue in medium range keys
if you gave blood dk every single talent it still wouldnt touch the diablo3 levels of % dmg reduction dh has
@@CrystalzDCUO vdh is far easier to play then paladin rn. Most tanks are broken down by sustained dcds and rotational dcds. Sustained dcds are really hard to mess up, rotational dcds require a lot of dungeon knowledge and not panic overlapping them after a big hit for a new tank. With a new player friendly build, you can easily maintain 100% sigil of flame uptime and 100% of demon spikes uptime versus 100% consecrate uptime. under spikes and sigil, vdh can live much higher keys with nothing else then paladin can with only consecrate making the baseline for learning vdh far easier then it is on paladin. Anyone who plays all tanks will agree that vdh has a much more new player friendly kit
Vengeance dh having the most health, damage, mitigation, self healing, cc, aoe stops and mobility of all tanks is so balanced
ok, druid tank has more mitigation and bdk has more self heal ] cds .
He’s just a prot warrior crying bro
@@XxInterCubexXneither of those 2 are as close to as tanky as VDH. I’m glad VDH is shinning but the gap does exist.
@@XxInterCubexX ROFL, bdk more self heal are u joking? you will die as bdk in anyone of those pulls
do u remember when Bdk was too op just because the Mass Grip (not based anymore) and the base grip?
Really appreciated this commentary. Fascinating to see their work.
Remember when tanks actually needed to be healed?
Yes, before Augmentation existed
? Lmao tanks haven’t been needing to be healed for a long time in keys going back a few expansions…unless your a monk or warrior and sometimes Druid….most tanks have strong self healing because no healer can spot heal us to full instantly….and if the tank dies…likely so does your run.
@@okkipooky8612 most people quit the game during those times cause of all the bs in the game....i just personally returned and all i see now is bad tanks cause tanks cant die....they will pull aoe mobs, not interrupt any of the 10 and the rest of the group dies and the tank says he is doing nothing wrong
I love these analysis videos keep it up!
Absolutely mental.
Funny how ret and prot paladin were such a problem with 4dps keys, that the highest keys being completed aren't using a ret or prot paladin.
This Aug is Master Ye‘s master. which’s the Aug in Aster Y.
Lol that tank is the real MVP.
ive seen people breath of aeons and then get gripped back to the bait spot immediately, so thats hardly even a downside of that saurid pull
I think the mage went out the swapped to arcane for the last boss
ez content for your boy
can hear your game sound in the background, Tettles.
Also, you're looking really cute today
Love the last few sentences lol
JB providing ever giving content
The entire first cc chain is absolutely ridiculous. 25-30s of aoe cc lockdown with only one ability (oppressing roar) not use by the demon hunter.
I wonder what weeks groups will try this on. This doesn't seem possible on the fort/bursting week because the bursting will just murder everyone. Even the spiteful week will be tough because you either eat the spitefuls with no healer or you have to move out and dodge juggs.
Spiteful is probably a lot easier, actually. No way a good set of coordinated players gets hit more than a few times in an entire dungeon. You can use Typhoon + Vortex, Mass Entaglement, most sigils, Blastwave, Frost Nova, Ring of Frost, Wing Buffet/Landslide, etc. Bursting has similarly effective strategies for highly coordinated groups. Everyone can play Dwarf. If you have a paladin tank, you also have Spellwarding. Mage and Rogue can immune on their own. Now that Shadow priest is somewhat viable, you can use Mass Dispell. Bursting isn't such a bad affix as long as you kill everything together (i.e., don't roll the debuff) and plan your immunities/Dwarf racial around specific pulls, which players of this level definitely do. With good enough routing and priority damage, you can generally kill everything at the same time.
On the other hand, a single cast from a mob with a few stacks of bolstering, and at least one DPS is dead. Of course you can use many of the same tricks I mentioned above to avoid this, but I feel that it's far easier and more punishing to make a mistake. Frankly, Bursting and Spiteful are both affixes that get far easier the higher the key. Not only is it a smaller percentage of the damage, but good coordination can almost delete the affixes entirely.
Might be able to pull it off on bursting with mass dispel, for the big first pull at least
Inb4 they make it so you can't re-enter a key once you start it.
IMO, one M+ spot should be mandatory for a healer role; no switching roles within a key.
why is zoning out allowed in mythic+ lmao let alone spec swapping
should be one or the other. Let us swap gear/talents in a dungeon or dont let us zone.
Don't allow zoning, but let us swap talents; on the condition it works like mass res where it cancels if ANY member of the group enters combat.
They should disable zoning out during a run. What you start with is what you have for the entire run
Works great when you forget to swap your raid talents for m+ and losing a ton of utility :D
Taking away the ability to tix talent/spec mistakes would cause way more harm than would be justified. Losing a key to someone accidentally being the wrong spec matters more than some niche strategies at the bleeding edge involving taking the time loss to swap.
How is he a skeleton
What is your hair lol
Dont you get it? Its well on its way to becoming a 'Night Elf Mohawk'
Someone call a doctor for JB please! 😶😶
Sigil of chains is a mistake. Gripping is death knights specific niche. Get rid of it for DH.
Uncapped AOE is a mistake. Uncapped AOE is a fire mage specific niche. Get rid of it for all other classes.
@@calvin864 you had to specify fire. So you know mage utility isn’t uncapped AoE.
@@colecote1432 it's because fire mage specifically was the ONLY one that uncapped AOE. Looks like you don't know mage utility yourself 😂😂 it was only recently that it became uncapped for all classes
@@calvin864 no. You’re not saying mage. You’re saying fire mage. Class utility on the grand scale of identity is independent of spec. That’s the point. It’s broadstrokes. Going into specs is too pedantic. Mage:arcane intellect. Warrior: attack power, dh incrwaed spell damage for all party members, etc. All specs have these. Frost mage doesn’t lose arcane intellect for being frost. death knight’s is grip. All specs can do it and it feels weird having someone else ape the bit.
@@calvin864They tried that in shadowlands and everyone hated it. Also didn't change the fact the same class you except we op
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I did a 3 dps with no healer that "d/c" and never game back and still timed it.
It as a +4 AD 😅
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Make no sense, i dont belive. Look at evoker.. a dps? hell nah, you all can see dps meter.. make no sense that a dps.
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this just shows how much of a casual gamers WoW has become, bunch of dudes doing a less than perfect run by all means and a dc holds the world first near season end
This was a well executed and smartly strategized run. The world record run will never be perfect, that’s true about all leaderboards. When a new best route is found the first runs that use it will be non optimal. It takes time to be refined.
Nothing about this run seems casual to me. Could you say more on what your idea of casual is?
I'm not even gonna try to explain how youre wrong lmfao. Ain't no way it gets through your dense skull.
@@Arcticp75 My guy this is a troll. Casuals dont do 32s. This guy obv last played so long ago its embarassing or has never played.
this game is a big fail
No one cares this is literally 25 total players of a game that makes up millions. No one cares….
you good bro ?
@@whoasked5746you get puss puss bro?
How can it be true that no one cares yet Tettles can get 10s of thousands of views on these types of videos? He didn't even say the game should be changed because of strategies like this.
well, I care, so your argument is already invalid