Inside Japan’s $80B Fukushima Cleanup as AI Fuels Atomic Energy’s Comeback | WSJ

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  • @wsj
    @wsj  2 дні тому +13

    Japan approves $141 billion stimulus to boost economy, offset living costs: on.wsj.com/3OAnY3y

  • @DarkLordDeimos
    @DarkLordDeimos День тому +8

    This reporting seems very one-sided and thus only contributes to fear-mongering.
    No mention of the fact that the issue at Fukushima was due to concerns from engineers/inspectors being ignored about the placement of the back-up generators.
    Nothing about how a different nuclear reactor, which was closer to the epicenter, was completely unscathed because it had followed all safety precautions.
    Not a single mention of the positives of nuclear energy besides fulfilling "A.I. Demand".
    Perhaps most importantly, if 1/3 of Japan's electricity was turned off, how was it replaced? Coal? Gas? Solar? Wind? I guarantee that at least a significant portion was replaced by higher carbon sources, which is a pity.

  • @sp890520
    @sp890520 2 дні тому +129

    This was TEPCO's mistake, which restarted the entire nuclear fear around the world. US & other countries recommended to pour sea water before the melt down so they can save other reactors, but Japan & TEPCO refused because of the money they spent building it. TEPCO pondered on it for over 30 hours, and the rods melted down causing the explosion. This could easily have been prevented.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban День тому +3

      Source? How is one supposed to pour water over it? Wasn’t that the whole problem, the pumps were offline?

    • @Djamonja
      @Djamonja День тому +2

      @@TheBooban Kind of, they had the backup generators at (or even below) ground level, so when the tsunami hit it flooded all the generator rooms and they couldn't provide the power needed for the pumps (pumps meant to circulate the cooling water to keep the reactors cool).

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban День тому

      @@Djamonja yeah, thats what i mean. What were they supposed to do instead?

    • @Djamonja
      @Djamonja День тому +1

      @@TheBooban You have to put the generators and pumps above ground level so the generators can't get flooded. The pumps (and water tanks) can even be put above the reactor itself so that gravity can be used to circulate water through the reactor if there is no power.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban День тому +1

      @ sure but thats not what OP said. He is saying that had time to presumably run the pumps before they were flooded.

  • @jamsbong
    @jamsbong 2 дні тому +68

    It’s interesting that the Fukushima nuclear plant is design to withstand a 5.7 magnitude earthquake only. When Japan experienced a >7 magnitude earthquake a few times every decade.
    It would make more sense to make a factor of safety to withstand a magnitude of 10+ so that it would survive the tsunami event.

    • @DanielleSuzette4444
      @DanielleSuzette4444 2 дні тому +2

      No kidding! Of course the residents are terrified. There we go- sacrificing human to keep that almighty currency generating.

    • @mr.priman
      @mr.priman 2 дні тому +11

      The meltdown wasn’t caused by tsunami itself, but for the failure of back-up system

    • @dulouser1751
      @dulouser1751 День тому

      ​@@DanielleSuzette4444it's normal to trade off human lives with various things. For example, if every car would top out at 10 kilometers an hour the number of people severely injured or killed in car accidents pretty much drop to 0, but it should be pretty obvious that this would be very inefficient considering the increased amount of time we'd spend getting from place A to B. And yes, this time would obviously also translate to higher costs for businesses, which would be transferred onto the goods and services we all rely on. Because we are using money as a singular representative of value across different fields, it will always play a role, if we like it or not.
      A different way to look at it: Every joule of energy we generate and transfer to your appliances will have a cost in human life too, no matter how it is generated. Not even renewables are spared their share of premature death. People die during the production and installation of them, solar panels use quite toxic materials that will to some degree affect the environment during production and after they're dissembled, and the glass fibre used in wind turbines is carcinogenic, so you can get cancer from breathing in the air that passed over their blades.
      It's all a tradeoff really.

    • @antcosentino27
      @antcosentino27 День тому +10

      @jamsbong
      an earthquake exceeding 9.6 has never been recorded... *ever*.
      and to give you a brief crash course on the moment magnitude scale: a magnitude 11 event has more than one thousand times (literally) the energy of a magnitude 9 event.
      the bleeding edge of structural engineering technology has only begun to be able to withstand magnitude 9 events. so what you've so casually suggested - as if it's inconceivable that nobody has thought of it before you - is so deeply within the realm of fantasy that it could only be described as asinine.
      consider that a just a magnitude 10 event is the equivalent of more than thirty (a conservative approximation) magnitude 9 events happening simultaneously.

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 День тому +2

      There’s no such thing as 10+ magnitude earthquake.
      The theoretically maximum is 10.6 as that is the estimated value that Earth’s crust will shear itself apart into separated pieces…
      Note that in term of energy release: a magnitude 6 is about the same as 1 Hiroshima bomb
      A magnitude 8 is about 1,200 Hiroshima bombs
      A magnitude 10 is about 1,200,000 Hiroshima bombs
      It’s not a linear scale.

  • @salemxr6304
    @salemxr6304 День тому +17

    The entire video opening up with a shot of a desolate giant Pachinko sign is both sad and amusing, while being incredibly Japanese.

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus День тому +2

      "50000 people used to gamble here. Now it's a ghost town."

  • @davidtesta6542
    @davidtesta6542 День тому +29

    Nuclear energy can solve our energy crisis.

  • @stijn2644
    @stijn2644 21 годину тому +2

    pretty ironic when you know of the fact that many more nuclear power plants were closer to the epicentrum than Fukushima daiichi and had no damage.

  • @fmunro123
    @fmunro123 День тому +5

    Why focus on AI and not mention electric cars? Bias? Spin? We need nuclear to save the glaciers and snowpack and prevent desertification. Especially in northern climates where there’s not enough solar.

    • @fmunro123
      @fmunro123 День тому +1

      Nuclear has produced the most low carbon energy out of all the energy sources.

  • @Opalsdad
    @Opalsdad День тому +5

    I love Japan! Kind people

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 День тому +1

      mostly stupid

    • @jyc313
      @jyc313 День тому

      wrong.

    • @CandleWisp
      @CandleWisp День тому

      ​@@jyc313How compelling😅

    • @jyc313
      @jyc313 День тому

      @ it’s not, lol 😂 despite your sarcasm :)

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 2 дні тому +13

    More like destructive force of bad assumptions, bad planning and bad construction. There was a known risk and mitigation was insufficient

  • @fangs311
    @fangs311 2 дні тому +4

    Dont trust TEPCO for its corporation greed and negligence

  • @Sjalabais
    @Sjalabais 2 дні тому +32

    Fascinating how TEPCO hasn't changed its name or approach. Any Western company involved in a scandalous disaster like this would rebrand before anything else...and *then* change nothing.

    • @marcovalentinocaravella7018
      @marcovalentinocaravella7018 День тому +1

      What is the scandalous here? Having caused an earthquake?

    • @Nabrolo
      @Nabrolo День тому

      ​@@marcovalentinocaravella7018 their response after the accident was especially scandalous amongst Japanese citizens.

    • @waisinglee1509
      @waisinglee1509 День тому +1

      Boeing is still Boeing.

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 День тому +1

      it is the jpnse way. never learning from their mistakes.

    • @TV-ex5qq
      @TV-ex5qq День тому

      なんで名前を帰るんだ?変えたところで分かるだろ

  • @Pluckaiy
    @Pluckaiy День тому +11

    Nuclear fears are WAY overplayed, and there are 2 people on opposite sides pushing the same direction, climate activists think its bad, oil tycoons who want to keep pumping. But in the modern day wind and solar are much more cost effective, specially as storage solutions become better. We are more than likly to enter a solar era, if we can transport it, just like we did the industrial revolution, which should excite.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому +2

      Ruinables are always more expensive than nuclear when real numbers are used.

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 День тому +1

      @@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk jpnese will never learn from their mistakes which is why they are repeating them right now.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      @@blackbelt2000 Exactly what mistakes are they making?

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 День тому

      @@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk cutting corners on a subpar nuclear power plant that can't withstand the forces of nature it was positioned within is a start. its time for your meds.

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 День тому +1

      @@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk the fact they can't build a power plant to withstand the forces of nature properly is a start.

  • @ozelotsoffunT-jz2rt
    @ozelotsoffunT-jz2rt 3 години тому

    Why is nobody talking about the good sides of THE ZONE like getting artifacts and BANDIT RADIO

  • @timchecketts6454
    @timchecketts6454 День тому +1

    Nuclear energy is the safest engery. Lowest deaths per TWH. Only issue is perception & press optics.
    The area could open back up. Current radiation levels have dropped to considerably lower levels than the natural background radiation found in parts of Colorado, particularly at higher altitudes where the natural radiation is naturally elevated due to cosmic rays; meaning that most of Colorado currently receives more radiation than even the most contaminated areas around Fukushima today.
    No one died from radiation at Fukushima, only poor government overeaction to the events.

  • @misosoppa3279
    @misosoppa3279 День тому +1

    Is it just me, or is there way more videos on Japan recently?

  • @numodular
    @numodular 2 дні тому +1

    There's probably more weight to the more recent evaluations that concluded the evacuations at Fukushima, were more damaging than the actual earthquake/tsunami effects on the plant, loss of life, and surrounding radiation levels.
    Out of all the potential building areas in Japan for such a facility, this location is one of the most earthquake/tsunami prone. And to top it off; Gen 4 Thorium Molten Salt reactors, along with hydrogen production that Tritium is a crucial component, was a far better path than older tech was.
    Now it's simply too late to deploy Gen 4 tech worldwide - especially in modern industrialized countries that are enslaved to fossil fuels - to counterweight increasing ecosystem collapses around the globe. But hey; at least the top 1% oil barons get another yacht!

  • @AndreaDoesYoga
    @AndreaDoesYoga 2 дні тому +1

    Nuclear energy's return 🔄 is a complex issue, isn't it?

  • @Nainara32
    @Nainara32 День тому +1

    The Fukushima accident demonstrates that the legacy nuclear power plants need more attention to disaster-proofing, as well as redundancy in their backup and safety systems. I hope Westinghouse can get enough political support and capital to lead the way in new safety-first reactor designs such as molten salt reactors, but it seems like that domain is being ceded to China.

    • @CandleWisp
      @CandleWisp День тому

      Curiously enough, Canada's reactors got some modifications specifically because of the Fukushima disaster.
      They rigged their water reserve to be able to receive water from fire trucks.

  • @rd9102
    @rd9102 День тому

    Nuclear power is an interim at best solution. The real problem is energy storage, there is plenty of power out there and plenty to be harnessed daily without Nuclear but the energy storage capacity is very limited and it needs to get better.

  • @pauliewalnuts240
    @pauliewalnuts240 День тому

    "Humans fcked this reactor up, but ai will save us" i definitely dont foresee another accident in their future. Absolutely not.

  • @G-Man-half-life
    @G-Man-half-life 2 дні тому +12

    Nuclear ☢️ energy is not a threat it is a benefit nuclear energy will solve the growing energy needs here on earth nuclear energy is safe and renewable also we Americans should also build more nuclear energy plants as soon as possible.

  • @nbnsraz
    @nbnsraz День тому

    These are old reactor designs, we need walk away safe modern SMR’s, some of which can operate at atmospheric pressure and don’t require emergency cooling outside of regular thermal conduction.
    Looking back now, it seems really dumb they didn’t have backup generators staged uphill from a rare tsunami.

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      SMR's are the scam you all fell for. Large scale gen III+ nuclear plants are perfectly safe

  • @qf4543
    @qf4543 День тому +3

    Is data more important than human safety?

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  • @allanwind295
    @allanwind295 День тому

    We never learn.

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      false, we've learned a lot in this years: shutting nuclear plants it's a terribile idea.

    • @allanwind295
      @allanwind295 7 годин тому

      @@sciekimike280 Wikipedia tells me that there has been at least 99 nuclear accidents so far... so how many accidents will take before we learn to not f* around with current generation of nuclear plant technology? Even if we figure out how to operate it 100% safely there is nature, terrorism, war etc. However many billions they will spend you firing up old plants would build a lot of battery infrastructure to switch to solar & wind primarily.

  • @Oobizoobi
    @Oobizoobi День тому

    Growing Mushrooms stop radiation and helps clean up radiation zones right

    • @Oobizoobi
      @Oobizoobi День тому

      Just looked it up, it’s called radiotrophic fungus; cryptococcus neoformans, an extremophile fungus that helped clean up and reduce radiation zones in Chernobyl I think, scientists have known about it since 2007 they say. That could help reopen zones that have been deemed unlivable eventually. The mushroom converts the radioactivity into energy in a harmless fashion. Haha kind of cool how again fungus comes to the rescue, the cyclical restarter/ processor in nature, fungi is just a fun guy ^_^

  • @The_Sofa_King
    @The_Sofa_King 2 дні тому +3

    Rahm Emanuel is one of the worst people to ask this about.

    • @kevinjenner9502
      @kevinjenner9502 2 дні тому +1

      Former mayor of one of the most violent cities in the US, now ambassador to one of the safest countries in the world.

  • @Kangroo11
    @Kangroo11 День тому

    4:25 AI TECH and another tech garbage will be the end of humanity.

  • @timchecketts6454
    @timchecketts6454 День тому

    The lens on this is total B.S.

  • @protow5041
    @protow5041 14 годин тому

    Pantheon predicted this...

  • @antonleimbach648
    @antonleimbach648 День тому +3

    What a joke. Will Microsoft take responsibility for any accidents at 3 Mile Island? Will they pay for the cleanup?

    • @anshuman7190
      @anshuman7190 День тому

      No they won't, they will make donations to RNC and Congress and get out by paying lip service.

  • @viewer_007
    @viewer_007 2 дні тому +4

    I don't think this is the "worst". Japan has seen worse.

  • @KforConstant
    @KforConstant День тому +7

    Video commentator sounds like it is AI

  • @RiverHaus2001
    @RiverHaus2001 День тому

    This presentation realky has nothing to do with the title. Boring and misleading

  • @DanielleSuzette4444
    @DanielleSuzette4444 2 дні тому +1

    Pronounce : “noo-clee-ar”
    Nu-cle-ar
    Not: no-cue-lar
    No “u” sound in second syllable.
    Just NU-CLE-AR
    Please;thank you.

  • @simontemplar404
    @simontemplar404 2 дні тому +3

    Nuclear power is a strategic military resource. The enemy will not blow it up because the radioactive fallout will fall on their agriculture too. It is also low carbon and reasonably good value when backing up renewable energy. This is a wise choice for the future.

    • @dulouser1751
      @dulouser1751 День тому +3

      Well, it really depends on where the plants are located in relation to the belligerents. Obviously, Russia's and Ukraine's nuclear plants are still close to the others country, so blowing them up would harm themselves almost as much as their opponent, but if we're talking about countries on different sides of the earth then that argument doesn't really work, does it?

  • @seannaesseannaes
    @seannaesseannaes 2 дні тому

    We CANDU 6 it!

  • @saranyanragunathan4532
    @saranyanragunathan4532 18 годин тому

    Will data center or Rahm Emanuel move close to nuclear plant? Will they have guts? Life of the people and environment is more important than Data center or AI.. Japan should learn lesson from previous incidents. Don’t try to repeat the same mistake. Nature will not give more opportunities

  • @saikarumudi
    @saikarumudi День тому

    Dan Dan Dan!!

  • @toulonmiah5521
    @toulonmiah5521 22 години тому

    Is it worser than chynobol

  • @merosk8071
    @merosk8071 2 дні тому

    Downward spiral

  • @The_JGatz
    @The_JGatz 2 дні тому +1

    All that money but can’t solve world hunger

    • @fuzer4047
      @fuzer4047 2 дні тому +2

      Cry about it

    • @Majilikin
      @Majilikin День тому

      Well you clearly have a plan for it, tell us how you would fix world hunger!

  • @hyn__als
    @hyn__als 2 дні тому +2

    WSJ is so down bad now it this narrative is definitely ai created 😭☝🏻

  • @kevinjenner9502
    @kevinjenner9502 2 дні тому +4

    Japan recently arrested American tourist Steve Lee Hayes for defacing a Shrine Tori Gate….Don’t be that guy.

  • @kennethvenezia4400
    @kennethvenezia4400 День тому +1

    It's a simple question: Do you want to be irradiated, or do you want to give up your computer games?😮

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      You take more radiation walking in a public park than working in a nuclear plant for a year.

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus День тому +2

    It's amazing how all comment sections nowadays read like I went back to 1950 when everybody drank the nuclear age koolaid. Feels like watching those Fallout segments cheering on about how it's cool and dandy to run everything on nuclear power. It feels like nobody that lived through 1979-2011 is alive today.
    The next time it happens people will again rise up in outrage screaming "what were they thinking?!" Well, this time you're asking for it yourself.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому +3

      Nuclear has proven to be the safest we have no matter how much you whine about it.

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus День тому

      @ Writing this below a video that shows a country losing its land effectively permanently. People die in the millions fighting to hold onto their land today and yet they will rather give it away forever for cheap electricity.
      And reneweables safest, nuclear by far the most unsafe as shown above.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      @@sapphyrus You could have checked death statistics of electricity sources before presenting such a meme. Nuclear is safer than ruinables.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      @@sapphyrus Would love to see how you think Japan is losing their land.

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus День тому

      @@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk Apparently you either didn’t watch the video or unable to comprehend that the area is an uninhabitable wasteland. That is losing the land.

  • @ianchmp
    @ianchmp День тому +3

    Was this sponsored by the petroleum industry?

    • @Modestas_Gardziu
      @Modestas_Gardziu День тому

      My thoughts exactly, how many non instant deaths causes all the oil industry?
      There's a good fact based video from kurzgesagt on UA-cam, with sources available for fact check.
      This one is definitely sponsored by one of the oil companies

  • @PlayJasch
    @PlayJasch День тому

    AI Voice 👎

  • @halitosis75
    @halitosis75 День тому +1

    It's truly a catastrophic situation with the Japanese government having approved the dumping of nuclear waste into the surrounding ocean

    • @samuelfischman6949
      @samuelfischman6949 День тому

      That "waste" is water that contains tritium, the radioactive isotope of hydrogen. This material does not bioaccumulate, and has a half-life of only 11 years. And they are dumping it into the Pacific Ocean. The largest body of water on the planet. This is not an issue.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      The Japanese do not dump nuclear waste into any ocean.

    • @halitosis75
      @halitosis75 День тому

      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk yes they do, at fukashima

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      @@halitosis75 No they don't, they release tritiated water just like all nuclear power plants do.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому

      @@halitosis75 No one has dumped nuclear waste into the ocean since 1993 when the practice was banned by international treaty.

  • @kasualkenny8797
    @kasualkenny8797 2 дні тому +1

    14 years…worst???

  • @TheRadioAteMyTV
    @TheRadioAteMyTV 2 дні тому +1

    Why not copy CA, since they are near the same size, and put up windmills and solar panels? We hear all day long that's the solution, that's all you need. CA has big tech too, so why is this video not telling them to do what CA is telling everyone to do?

    • @privatebandana
      @privatebandana День тому

      Because Japan has over double the manufacturing output, switching completely would cost them an insane amount of money, not to mention as we have seen in Germany.. it would lead to higher costs for not only companies but normal people aswell. They need cheaper energy, not more expensive energy.

    • @sholinwright2229
      @sholinwright2229 День тому +1

      Also CA is 6th in wind energy output behind TX, OK, IA, KS and CO. Maybe the NIMBY force in CA is strong.

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  • @seymorefact4333
    @seymorefact4333 День тому

    ** WARNING WARNING: JAPAN is selling fish from the area! ****

    • @TV-ex5qq
      @TV-ex5qq День тому

      何がダメなんよ。専門家が大丈夫て言っているだから

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      wow, do you even know that the ocean is much more radioactive by itself than the exclusion zone of fukushima? Do you have an idea of how many billion tonnes of uranium and thorium are naturally dissolved in seawater?

  • @XxXenosxX
    @XxXenosxX День тому

    I’ve heard the exclusion zone isn’t as contaminated as expected and that some is perfectly livable. I wonder how true it is 🤔

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      it is in fact. Rome is in average more radioactive

  • @tonamg53
    @tonamg53 День тому

    Had they kept one reactor running instead of automatically shutting all of them down after the earthquake as a “precautionary measure”
    None of this would’ve happens.
    This is not an accident cause by natural disaster. This is an accident cause by pure stupidity.
    They basically tied their own hands up with the “precautionary measure”

  • @J4ckCr0w
    @J4ckCr0w День тому

    It can not be cleaned.

    • @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk День тому +2

      Why would you say that?

    • @J4ckCr0w
      @J4ckCr0w 20 годин тому

      @danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk Not say, but stsre that it is currently humanly impossible.

  • @qf4543
    @qf4543 День тому +1

    Solar and wind don't irradiate you.

    • @stijn2644
      @stijn2644 21 годину тому

      lol it's radiation in the first place that makes solar panels work.

    • @sciekimike280
      @sciekimike280 7 годин тому

      False, to extract rare earths (which are the base elements needed to build wind and solar infrastructure) you produce way more radioactive waste than running a nuclear plant.