Angara - Russia's Replacement For The Proton Rocket

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2020
  • Angara is supposed to be Russia's first purely domestic rocket, the rockets developed under the Soviet Union all depended on states other than Russia. Angara was supposed to be a modular design which could scale up to a range of payloads using common Universal Rocket Modules. Except that it's taken almost 25 years to get to a 3rd launch, and we're not even sure if there's a payload on it.
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  • @davetremaine9763
    @davetremaine9763 3 роки тому +552

    There's nothing like grabbing some food, sitting down to find something to watch while you eat and see Scott Manley just uploaded a video.

    • @frankowalker4662
      @frankowalker4662 3 роки тому +14

      Ha ha. That's exactly what I've just done.

    • @pixoariz
      @pixoariz 3 роки тому +11

      Food for thought.

    • @tedcronin9523
      @tedcronin9523 3 роки тому +8

      GET OUT OF MY HEAD

    • @KX36
      @KX36 3 роки тому +2

      i mean.. there are other things quite a lot like it though.

    • @Thryller42
      @Thryller42 3 роки тому +3

      Reduces my main dish to a side all the time this happens 👍

  • @SpiritBaker
    @SpiritBaker 3 роки тому +459

    Russian word for hydrogen is indeed vodorod, and Scott's pronunciation was on point.

    • @user-ic5wz2xu8r
      @user-ic5wz2xu8r 3 роки тому +16

      Yes, and vozvrat means return.

    • @andreikravchenko312
      @andreikravchenko312 3 роки тому +33

      @@user-ic5wz2xu8r not to be confused with "rozvrat" :)

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 роки тому +17

      𝗩odorod, hmmm...
      So, the Russians never _had_ an "H-bomb".
      We've been lied to all these years!

    • @russianwithevgeniy
      @russianwithevgeniy 3 роки тому +22

      @@-danR Correct :D "H-bomb" in Russian is pronounced "vah dah rOd nah ya bOm bah" (водородная бомба)

    • @petertiagunov5666
      @petertiagunov5666 3 роки тому +2

      @@-danR Troll!

  • @IstasPumaNevada
    @IstasPumaNevada 3 роки тому +144

    "On all three flights, the first stage was said to have worked correctly."
    *image of a rocket wobbling its way into the sky*

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 3 роки тому +10

      I thought it DID look a bit wobbly on a couple of those flights!

    • @rpavlik1
      @rpavlik1 3 роки тому +40

      Testing the rarely-used dance party mode.

    • @kalpanaanubhav
      @kalpanaanubhav 3 роки тому +1

      @@rpavlik1 lol

    • @wthoutanymmries
      @wthoutanymmries 3 роки тому +3

      @@rpavlik1 sounds like a phrase GLaDOS would say

    • @colaphoenix6849
      @colaphoenix6849 3 роки тому +2

      is like that russian tank party meme all over again.

  • @andreyz4k
    @andreyz4k 3 роки тому +301

    When I was serving in Plesetsk 10 years ago (nowhere near Angara though), it was already called "A very promising project since 1984"

    • @vladimirgoryachev3707
      @vladimirgoryachev3707 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@Decorsys It's more like a brainwashed soviet zombie proverb.

    • @skunkjobb
      @skunkjobb 3 роки тому +16

      @@vladimirgoryachev3707 To keep quiet about secrets has nothing to do with brainwashing and is not a uniquely Soviet feature. Anyway, I find N. Decorsys' comment uncalled for since I don't see how andreyz4k's comment revealed any secrets.

    • @diplodoker
      @diplodoker 3 роки тому +13

      @@Decorsys he didnt worked there, he said "serving". Pretty sure he was just a soldier private rank without any responsibilities. Plesetsk is a military rocket/missile site with alot of drafted soldiers, they mostly do nothing there but guarding those sites. No one of them have never seen any rocket there in closer view. These people who is relative (in personal close contact) with rockets in Plesetsk will not speak with you in youtube comments, most of them even not allowed to have any social networks accounts (actually all russian armed forces personell forbidden to have these accounts, but most of non secret parts officers dont give a fuck about it) .

    • @vladimirgoryachev3707
      @vladimirgoryachev3707 3 роки тому +3

      @@diplodoker The Russian army is made up mostly of unwitting conscripts. That is, this is slavery in its purest form. It’s funny to demand that slaves keep their mouths shut.

    • @user-cr3pj2nr4e
      @user-cr3pj2nr4e 3 роки тому +3

      @@Decorsys Да, и сор из избы не выносить. Так и осталась изба полная хлама. О проблемах надо говорить. Пока не стало (стало) поздно.

  • @Anti_Woke
    @Anti_Woke 3 роки тому +446

    "All very practical, and all very Kerbal". Ahh, KSP, the measure of all things.

    • @coreytaylor447
      @coreytaylor447 3 роки тому +20

      real life rocket science grows more and more kerbal every day. which is either very frightening or very cool

    • @abuBrachiosaurus
      @abuBrachiosaurus 3 роки тому +9

      Kerbal and practical? IMPOSSIBLE

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 роки тому +3

      They just need to uncheck that
      [ √ ] yelloweyish
      filter in their Lada CGI app.
      2:28

    • @Anti_Woke
      @Anti_Woke 3 роки тому +3

      Replying to myself ^^: And how many of us learnt to Kerbal properly from watching Scott?

    • @talyrath
      @talyrath 3 роки тому +6

      @@coreytaylor447 I vote for very cool. Kerbal presupposes a level of modularity and dependability that would benefit any "real" space program.

  • @night_gryphon
    @night_gryphon 3 роки тому +32

    One of the major reasons for such long delay was moving the whole Angara production to the factory in Omsk to achieve better logistics. Omsk is located exactly in the middle between Plesetsk and Vostochny (and Baykonur). That move involved about complete Omsk factory equipment upgrade, teaching people, preparation for mass production and certification of each production stage. So that huge delay was not because of Angara development itself. Also there was no any reason to rush before Angara launchpad at Vostochny ready and payload it intended to carry ready.

    • @user-od1ud7jx8p
      @user-od1ud7jx8p Місяць тому

      Не нужно оправдываться перед ними.

  • @gsmontag
    @gsmontag 3 роки тому +83

    Since you mentioned it, we now need a Soyuz-5 video.

    • @mihan2d
      @mihan2d 3 роки тому +13

      Yeah, also it is the first Russian rocket planned with the reusable stages and this platform accommodates a future superheavy variant. Also right now there are talks about making Angara URMs reusable too, we'll see how that develops.

    • @DmitryKandiner
      @DmitryKandiner 3 роки тому

      @@mihan2d There were some preliminary plans for "Energia-2" launching vehicle with reusable 1st stage units, that were supposed to land in gliding mode.

    • @georgeghleung
      @georgeghleung 3 роки тому

      Are you sure it's not Fenix/Feniks? Oops, I mean Sunkar. Oops, it's now Irtysh.
      It have as much name change as PTK/PPTP/Federatsiya/Orel

  • @lake258
    @lake258 3 роки тому +94

    AFAIK, the production delays were due to reorganization rather than any problems with the rocket or its production itself. Given the mess in the Russian space industry with its strategic view, project consistency, and quality control, which resulted in failures when launching perfectly tested long-serving rockets, getting things back in order was a priority over faster Angara adoption.
    As you pointed out, Angara is about guaranteed independent access to space for Russia. The rocket is essentially ready to use, it's just that there are no tasks and payloads that can be easily switched from Soyuz and Proton.
    I expect it to gradually increase its role in the Russian national space program, especially when Angara launchpad will enter service at Vostochniy, but not expect it to be a mass commercial working horse.

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 3 роки тому +7

      I'm confidant enough in it to say that an Angara A5 will probably launch the next Russian space station whenever the ISS gets too old to be safe to occupy. If the Russians decide to start to participate in the Artemis program in a meaningful way (read: sending up their own modules), I'm pretty sure an Angara will be the thing putting them in orbit.
      Of course, they'd probably have to use an Angara-A5 or -A7 using the URM-2v and KVTK upper stages (perhaps with the A7 they could do a tank stretch on the URM-2V), because you don't send things to the moon efficiently without using hydrogen or alternatively a lot more time and electric propulsion.

    • @cccpredarmy
      @cccpredarmy 3 роки тому +2

      @@Rankin1111 Не завидуй

    • @cccpredarmy
      @cccpredarmy 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rankin1111 Не завидуй

    • @A31415
      @A31415 3 роки тому

      Essentially ready, but delayed. Unlikely to fly this year after it gets moved from the pad to the hangar. Right now it says Dec 4, but since issues were found may be longer

    • @MrPaukann
      @MrPaukann 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rankin1111, смирительную рубашку примерьте.

  • @mirien7277
    @mirien7277 3 роки тому +105

    It's nice to see that Russia has a Mir of the SLS program; difficulties and all.

  • @Zieldrich
    @Zieldrich 3 роки тому +23

    This is excellent timing. Your Proton video popped up again for me a few days ago, I watched it then was disappointed when you didn't have one on the Angara. But here we are! Thanks for all the great content.

  • @antonvoloshin9833
    @antonvoloshin9833 3 роки тому +7

    A little correction: main launchpad for Angara, meant to be Vostochny kosmodome, on the Far East of Russia ("Vostochny" is actually mean "Eastern"), but since they haven't finished launch complex for it there, Plesetsk still the only avalible option for testing the vehicle. General plan was to launch commercial payloads from Vostochny, and leave Plesetsk mainly fot DOD needs. These days nobody knows when all this plans will actually come to life, which is sad, because it's pretty capable booster, and would be nice to see some happy ending after all troubles it went through.

  • @timothyharder7241
    @timothyharder7241 3 роки тому +46

    The Saturn V is missing in the background! :O
    I really appreciate the frequency of your videos these days!

    • @neithere
      @neithere 3 роки тому +2

      It can't just stay there forever. After all, it's a goddamn rocket!

  • @ykjt91
    @ykjt91 3 роки тому +11

    Lol Scott flexing on Tim Dodd. Tim is spending months putting together a guide the Soviet/Russian rocket family, while Scott just turns this out like it’s no biggie.
    I all seriousness though, Love both of them and really looking forward to Tim’s mini-documentary

  • @MaxGogleMogle
    @MaxGogleMogle 3 роки тому +91

    "Angara" is a big river in Siberia....

  • @andrewberg751
    @andrewberg751 3 роки тому +123

    Last time I was this early Mir was still in orbit.

    • @quinnmarchionini7997
      @quinnmarchionini7997 3 роки тому +2

      Nice

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 3 роки тому +6

      Can we stop with these 'jokes'. Every video has a comment like this. I don't even know where it comes from.

  • @favesongslist
    @favesongslist Місяць тому +4

    Very good video as always. On 11 April 24 the Russians successfully lunched the next Angara-A5 from Vostochny.

  • @fuelrich299
    @fuelrich299 3 роки тому +26

    I was in a bad mood until I saw Scott uploaded!

    • @LSF17
      @LSF17 3 роки тому

      Hi Jupiter

  • @trevortaylor5501
    @trevortaylor5501 3 роки тому +4

    Angara 5 launched 14th December 2020, a little late but spectacular! Hope you got to see it Scott.

  • @modrarybivrana5654
    @modrarybivrana5654 3 роки тому +1

    heard your name mentioned last night on LabPadre
    keep up the good work, always interesting subjects.

  • @user-te7rf8ik7z
    @user-te7rf8ik7z 3 роки тому +3

    I was fascinated by that for a pretty long time! Thanks for making a video about it)

    • @sofuckingannoying
      @sofuckingannoying 3 роки тому +1

      Я начал "болеть" за Ангару, будчи ещё школьником. С тех пор закончил школу, универ, работал, снова универ, учёная степень, жена, двое детей. А воз и ныне там.

  • @gate7clamp
    @gate7clamp 3 роки тому +1

    I’m glad you’re doing a video about this rocket

  • @hjalfi
    @hjalfi 3 роки тому +41

    I'm sure someone's got an old Lada they could use instead of a dummy payload. Sending cars into space is _traditional_ now, dammit.

    • @Voron_Aggrav
      @Voron_Aggrav 3 роки тому

      Thing is a Lada would be quite the artificial asteroid in comparison to the SpaceX one

    • @bormisha
      @bormisha 3 роки тому +3

      Oh yeah, a VAZ-2101 (the very first model of the line) would be very iconic!

    • @bormisha
      @bormisha 3 роки тому +2

      @Valeri Magomаdov Ok, then perhaps a VAZ-2106, an entirely-Soviet car.

    • @alexandregorov7772
      @alexandregorov7772 3 роки тому

      Aurus

    • @blackhawks81H
      @blackhawks81H 3 роки тому +1

      Lada? What are you some sort of capitalist spy? It's called a Zhiguli!

  • @kinderfett5259
    @kinderfett5259 3 роки тому +26

    5:34 Great name for a rocket.

    • @Chernosjk
      @Chernosjk 3 роки тому +5

      big pp launching

  • @elkudos6262
    @elkudos6262 3 роки тому +44

    No, actually "водород" came out pretty good!

    • @TheRadioactiveBanana32
      @TheRadioactiveBanana32 3 роки тому +2

      vodorod?

    • @elkudos6262
      @elkudos6262 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheRadioactiveBanana32 Well, it certainly wasn't "BOAOPOA".)))
      Funny thing, in the early years of mobile, latin script was kinda unintentionally forced on SMS communication, so people usually have no trouble recognizing words transliterated in English latin.
      Imagine if you routinely were getting garbled messages like: "гет милк, плс".
      It didn't stick.

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 3 роки тому

      Yeah I caught that.

    • @mortimertobarius9484
      @mortimertobarius9484 Рік тому

      It is perfectly legible to me, as I speak Greek.

  • @DmitryKandiner
    @DmitryKandiner 3 роки тому +17

    9:40 You are right, it is a Russian word for Hydrogen. And your pronounciation is all right, except that the stress goes on the last "o".

  • @holdengerrits8597
    @holdengerrits8597 3 роки тому

    Love your videos Scott!

  • @tilio9380
    @tilio9380 3 роки тому +7

    1:08 Damn! Imagine you're up in space, and one day you get a call telling you your country is no more and you may or may not be able to get home. : (

  • @TheDrumrhythm
    @TheDrumrhythm 3 роки тому

    Thanks Scott, I have no clue how you do it. Yet, always done so well. 👍👍

    • @TheDrumrhythm
      @TheDrumrhythm 3 роки тому

      I wonder what the "dummy" payload to geo was. Regardless, it will fly safe ;)

  • @Humanoidmp
    @Humanoidmp 3 роки тому +24

    1:55 this is the most Kerbal thing I’ve seen in a while

  • @iandennis1
    @iandennis1 3 роки тому

    Very interesting . Thanks Scott

  • @KanaevM
    @KanaevM 3 роки тому +70

    Actually, you pronounced "vodorod" pretty good.

    • @JohnDoe-420
      @JohnDoe-420 3 роки тому +12

      Every time Scott pronounces Russian I rush to the comments section to see if he got it right - learning one word at a time lol

    • @romanrm1
      @romanrm1 3 роки тому +8

      Yes, certainly better than "Energia". :)

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 3 роки тому

      But how well do you pronounce English words?

    • @John-tg8uk
      @John-tg8uk 3 роки тому +1

      @@romanrm1 yes, the stress should be on second "e" - enErgia, but otherwise it was not bad phonetically.

    • @hellascommentor
      @hellascommentor 3 роки тому +1

      @@John-tg8uk it seems that it is pronounced as in Greek Ενέργεια (enEryia) γ = y while γκ = g (where is its origin)

  • @user-lm9vy2wf5v
    @user-lm9vy2wf5v 3 роки тому +7

    Two additions:
    1. strange projects at the beginning of the program, caused by the customer's requirement (MoD) to use the launch table from the Zenit rocket (13 tons), which was built at 85%. And they wanted to get the payload capacity of the Angara as the Proton rocket from Baikonur (23 tons). That's why the engineers did their best.
    2. during the audit in 2007, it was revealed that from the beginning of the program in 1995 to 2006, 4% of the necessary money was allocated for the project. That's why the development period is so long.
    Source: book of the Angara rocket designer V. V. Nesterov ."The KPK Angara. History of creation".
    Два дополнения:
    1. странные проекты в начале программы, вызваны требованием заказчика (MoD) использовать стартовый стол от ракеты Зенит (13 тонн), который был построен на 85%. А грузоподъёмность у Ангары хотели получить как у ракеты Протон с Байконура (23 тонн). Поэтому инженеры и изворачивались как могли.
    2. При аудите в 2007 году было выявленно, что с начала программы в1995 и по 2006 на проект выделили 4% денег от необходимого. Поэтому и срок разработки такой длинный.
    Источник: книга конструктора ракеты Ангара В.В.Нестеров ."КРК Ангара. История создания".

    • @user-iz1ix9on2u
      @user-iz1ix9on2u 3 роки тому

      там скорее добивались аналогичной ПН на высокие орбиты а-ля ГПО и ГСО. Если вы посмотрите на статистику пусков, то заметите, что 90+% летят туда. Ангара Же значительно проигрывает протону, если запускать с плесецка

  • @fr0zenh3ll83
    @fr0zenh3ll83 3 роки тому +80

    5:35 Haha, he said "PP"
    sorry, im tired today...

    • @ricardoabh3242
      @ricardoabh3242 3 роки тому +2

      lol ok sound PeePee, did not catch your PP lol
      Not native English
      Also just woke up ;)

    • @ronmaaskant
      @ronmaaskant 3 роки тому +9

      Strap on and pp in 1 video is just too much

    • @axone9413
      @axone9413 3 роки тому +1

      he almost said like "i want to pee-pee" )

    • @ricardoabh3242
      @ricardoabh3242 3 роки тому +2

      @@ronmaaskant wow Scott is sliding a few under the radar!

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 3 роки тому +1

      Now we all know where your minds are located.

  • @radioactive9861
    @radioactive9861 3 роки тому

    Thanks for that 'Fly Safe', Scott Manley...I am flying from LAX to DTW today....I sincerely hope everything goes...safely...😁😜😉

  • @cokeforever
    @cokeforever 3 роки тому +1

    You pronounced 'vodorod' absolutely perfect, like being a native speaker! Kudos!

  • @a_reptiledysfunction5267
    @a_reptiledysfunction5267 3 роки тому

    Love the channel!

  • @camerondeatcher9668
    @camerondeatcher9668 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like a very cool rocket, let's hope it flies again!

  • @lovesmykitties9672
    @lovesmykitties9672 3 роки тому +1

    Great Scott! Nice coverages. Soon they wont be needed anyway

  • @MartinMizner
    @MartinMizner 3 роки тому +8

    They promised it since 2013 and now they are finally realizing it? I was waiting a lot. Now I'm satisfied.

    • @MouradMokrane
      @MouradMokrane 3 роки тому +3

      The delay is due to a deep reorganization of the whole Russian space industry. Lots of merging and optimization happened over the last decade. Looks like the whole reorganization process is now finally done, so projects that were on hold should now gradually become a thing.

    • @juliap.5375
      @juliap.5375 3 роки тому +2

      @@MouradMokrane Actually no. Russia signed with Kazakhstan agreement that it have right to launch Protons until 2025. Exactly after this Angara lost own importance. When developed Angara, decide to build new factory in Omsk instead of Moscow (3000 km from Moscow, on south and middle of Russia). Also was accepted decision that Angara will be launched in new Vostochny Cosmodrome. But because was signed contract with Kazakhstan, all deadlines was postponed. Factory planned to build somewhere in 2022 (it almost done and actually already produce modules of Angara for future usage, on youtube exist video from it). On Vostochny decide first launchpad to build for Soyuz rocket (done), while for Angara only after (now in progress, must be ready in 2023). So actually they are no any delays, it is just priorities was changed because gone risk that Kazakhstan will deny Protons.
      Angara itself was ready already in 2012, but at that year was no place to launch it. It light and heavy versions was launched in 2014 when on military cosmodrome Plesetsk made temporary launch pad for rocket (it was formally tests to confirm project, actually first stage already flew from 2009 as part of South Korean rocket). After that about rocket everyone forgot because there are no needs in it until 2025.

    • @A31415
      @A31415 3 роки тому +1

      No go. Launch for next week is scrubbed due to technical issues. It will now be moved from the launch pad into a hangar.

  • @AWZool
    @AWZool 3 роки тому +1

    1:47 excellent selection of games 👍

  • @LuxorAB
    @LuxorAB 3 роки тому +2

    Hey, Scott! I've seen soyuz model in one of your videos lately. Can you tell where I can get one of those? tnx
    You nailed vodorod pronunciation, btw

  • @ikeraguirre5865
    @ikeraguirre5865 3 роки тому +84

    I miss Energia.

    • @RobinCernyMitSuffix
      @RobinCernyMitSuffix 3 роки тому +4

      Me too...

    • @tomf3150
      @tomf3150 3 роки тому +8

      So do I ! That rocket was ballsy.

    • @DmitryKandiner
      @DmitryKandiner 3 роки тому +7

      Sadly, nowadays there is hardly any payload that requires such a monster.

    • @John-tg8uk
      @John-tg8uk 3 роки тому +7

      @@DmitryKandiner only new orbital station perhaps. Also, drafts of Energia 2 were even ballsier, but USSR went kaput a bit to early.

    • @xpehkto
      @xpehkto 3 роки тому +2

      @@John-tg8uk kaput is a German word, the closest Russian equivalent is kopetz (копец).

  • @EritoKaio
    @EritoKaio 3 роки тому +3

    Just in time for me to watch while I eat lunch!

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 3 роки тому +5

    Man, the Russians are really having trouble letting go of the idea of a Universal Rocket. They're building a Universal Rocket Module to replace the Universal Rocket-500.

  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 3 роки тому +4

    Protracted development - the true curse for any invention in an age of rapidly progressing technologies. Something conceived as cutting-edge can be obsolescent by the time it's ready for market.

  • @MrTimeless101
    @MrTimeless101 3 роки тому +1

    That's a nice looking launch at 7:00 flying into clouds.

  • @RobertCraft-re5sf
    @RobertCraft-re5sf 7 місяців тому

    I was just reading about this. perfect.

  • @pendexwelding
    @pendexwelding 3 роки тому +3

    Ive been watching Scott for years. He was the one who taught me the basics of KSP. My wife on the other hand had very little knowledge of him, his channel, or the content. Ive been trying to change that, so now when I watch new videos the phrase “Hello, Im Scott Manley” rings out around the house. then immediately after I hear a small womans voice in perfect Scottish accent “Hellooo Im Scott Manley” looks like you got ur hooks in deep sir. Love ur work.

  • @A.Lifecraft
    @A.Lifecraft 3 роки тому +3

    This thing made me imagine a "Falcon 7x9" (like 3x9 Falcon Heavy), would be quite the beast...

  • @vandarkholme4745
    @vandarkholme4745 3 роки тому +5

    3:55 An it's me, Dio moment when the fairing open to show just a fuel tank

  • @jaydonbooth4042
    @jaydonbooth4042 2 роки тому +2

    Great looking rocket, love the look of the common cores. Hopefully the project doesn't sputter out and die before it starts flying regularly. Imo best looking russian rocket so far, in fact not even just russian, just in general imo

  • @Automatik234
    @Automatik234 3 роки тому

    Now this is exciting!

  • @jebise1126
    @jebise1126 3 роки тому

    cant wait for it. its really good looking rocket

  • @ConstantijnKool
    @ConstantijnKool 3 роки тому +14

    video about soyuz 5 in the making?

  • @Tobbetuna
    @Tobbetuna 3 роки тому +1

    Yay a KSP video ! :D

  • @VortrexAerospace
    @VortrexAerospace 3 роки тому +1

    Me encantan tus videos aunque no los entienda mucho sigues asi Scott xd

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 3 роки тому +1

    That Angara 7 version is the personification of "Moar Boosters!" :-)

  • @NoNameAtAll2
    @NoNameAtAll2 3 роки тому

    9:34 you did great
    you pronounced it correctly

  • @MaheshJoshi
    @MaheshJoshi 3 роки тому

    Nice and informative channel. Looking for a review on Indian Space Program (ISRO).

  • @theatom7264
    @theatom7264 3 роки тому

    Intresting design & looks better than the aging Proton. Will you be doing any updates on the PTKNP crewed spacecraft that's supposed to go with this rocket lineup? Always thought the PTKNP spacecraft was a pretty intresting design but not much news on it since the reveal of the concept.

  • @RamArt9091
    @RamArt9091 3 роки тому +1

    That website. Such 2000's Energy.

  • @user-qh9wo9ls5s
    @user-qh9wo9ls5s 3 роки тому +2

    1:52 seems like my first mission to the Mun in KSP.

  • @cost-pluscontent2371
    @cost-pluscontent2371 3 роки тому +17

    Last time I was this early Angara actually flew

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing 3 роки тому +1

    That was a pretty cool booster separation.
    Not quite as balletic as the Soyuz' Korolyev Cross, but close.

  • @WWeronko
    @WWeronko 3 роки тому +3

    The core problem with the Angara is its time has passed before it started. In the era of reusability, an expensive single use rocket just doesn't have an economic rationale. The Angara is a fine rocket but it is a remnant of a by gone era.

    • @Sciolist
      @Sciolist 3 роки тому +2

      All reusable rockets are Americans and America has a habit of abusing every leverage it gets. So russian program would remain viable, less intense but still useful.
      Program delays are however a clear demonstration that Russian space program is not in same league with soviet one. They had good 30 years milking legacy systems to max, now realisation is setting in that they didn't invest in newer technologies. Angara is a belated attempt to correct that oversight. I don't think it'll commercially successful but it would retain niche applications.

    • @kodiak2fitty
      @kodiak2fitty 3 роки тому

      @@Sciolist LOL, yeah, Russia didn't abuse USA ISS costs after the Shuttle stopped flying. (/sarcasm off) Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos will happily fly Russian payloads as long they don't run afoul of government regulations. Every spacefaring nation probably should retain ability to self-launch even if they are throw-away rockets.

    • @juliap.5375
      @juliap.5375 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sciolist There are no any delays actually. Story of Angara:
      1) 1992 Let’s build new rocket; organize competition, what developers will propose.
      2) 1994 Proposed some project. Okey. But our country just dissolved, it is even worse than WW2, industry destroyed, civil wars, we have no money, so let’s return to it in future.
      3) 1997 Guys, we have better project, let’s do it instead of current. Okey. Proposed absolutely different project.
      4) 1998 Russia declared about own bankruptcy. Nobody still funded Angara.
      5) 1999 Two Protons fall, Kazakhstan is angry and promise deny for Russia to launch Protons.
      6) 2004 Signed agreement that Russia will build new rocket to replace Proton which use poisoned fuel. Russia got right to launch Protons until 2025. Angara postponed somewhere in far future.
      7) 2006 South Koreans visited Russia: guys, you are clever and know how to build rockets. Can you help and build rockets for us, we will pay? Russians: let’s take our project Angara, modify it and use for Koreans, they will pay for our rocket? Okey.
      8) 2009 First stage of Angara done and launched as part of new South Korean rocket.
      9) 2012 Russian Angara 100% done. Guys, regards to Korean money we build new rocket yearly than planned, but there are no place to launch it.
      ...now we need to build launchpad for Angara in new Vostochny Cosmodrome and new factory closer to it. But because we already signed with Kazakhstan agreement that we have right to launch Protons rockets until 2025, there are no reasons to hurry. So, let’s build launchpad in 2023 (after launchpad for Soyuz), while factory in 2022. Okey.
      10) 2014 On military cosmodrome Plesetsk created temporary launchpad for tests of Angara. In that year launched light and heavy versions. Hurray!
      At same time somewhere in military stuff: guys, we need big rockets to deliver ‘light and heat’:
      2007: SLBM Sineva ready.
      2009: ICBM Yars ready.
      2014: SLBM Lainer ready.
      2018: SLBM Bulava ready.
      2019: Hypersonic glider ready.
      In development ICBM Sarmat, at tests anti-space defense system A-235, with fastest in world (in class of large rockets which can in space) ABM A-925 and 58R6.

    • @A31415
      @A31415 3 роки тому

      @@juliap.5375 that’s a fine piece of the official Russian propaganda 😬 Fact: Angara is not flying any time soon. Yes, it is being moved from the pad as we speak.

  • @ivansherbinin
    @ivansherbinin 3 роки тому +1

    Scott, Russian space program is mostly projects by now.
    The head of space agency makes bigger cash than Nasa's director (before adjusting the costs of living!) while average salary in Roskosmos is ~1000$. Which is not too bad in Russia, but it is average and we are talking top notch engineers, scientists etc. - which should be attracted to the production. So by now it is mostly soviet 80-years old engineers. Because top notch engineers and scientists won't take a job with a disrespectful pay + Roskosmos priorities are kinda reflecting the direction where the agency is rapidly diving so good specialists are not exactly thrilled to work ideologically either.

  • @jamesbyrd6365
    @jamesbyrd6365 3 роки тому

    Your pronunciation of "Vodorod" is correct, the emphasis is on the last syllable. Its meaning is exactly the same as Hydrogen, or Water--Generating (Voda=water; Rod=creating/making).

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing. One suggestion , “ instead of much better “ could you provide numbers like is “10%” better. ThAnks

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 3 роки тому +3

    First I've heard of the Soyuz 5... can you do us a video about this?

  • @AlricOfRahls
    @AlricOfRahls 3 роки тому

    Actually, your pronouncation of Vodorod, which is indeed Hydrogen, was pretty good.

  • @RubenKelevra
    @RubenKelevra 3 роки тому

    2:58 good that they printed "Hot Fire" on the side of the rocket engine, just to make everyone standing next to it while firing aware that it's not firing cold fire.

  • @rmatveev
    @rmatveev 3 роки тому +1

    9:33 - You were right "vodoród" (stress on the last syllable).

  • @subliminalvibes
    @subliminalvibes 3 роки тому

    Yes, the Proton gives off a LOT of that tell-tale rich orange smoke. Nasty nasty stuff. I'm happy it's being replaced.
    Some of these newer rockets burn cleaner than my '97 Honda Civic!

  • @nothingness29
    @nothingness29 3 роки тому

    Спасибо!

  • @alexanderivkin7086
    @alexanderivkin7086 3 роки тому

    It finally made it! ✔👍🚀

  • @KnightRanger38
    @KnightRanger38 2 роки тому

    The mission Mr Manley mentions in this video was launched on 14 December 2020. Today, 27 December 2021 is the scheduled test launch of another Angara A5.

  • @alanbutler1738
    @alanbutler1738 3 роки тому +1

    So the boosters fire for 3 1/2 minutes. Does that mean the center core is vacuum optimized and initial runs a lower throttle at lower altitudes? I don’t understand much of rocket design but must be amazing to figure the correct design of each stage. At what point is a 3rd stage beneficial?

    • @stekra3159
      @stekra3159 3 роки тому

      Falcon Havey and Delta-V Hevey they do this it is fire to assume that the Angara like most Multicore Rockets do this

  • @WayneBorean
    @WayneBorean 3 роки тому +5

    Then there’s the minor issue that it costs too much, since none of it is reusable.

    • @juliap.5375
      @juliap.5375 3 роки тому +7

      No. Different kind of economic. Space and military industrial complexes in Russia de facto living in soviet system. It is build by state, on state owned factories, without foreigners, mainly from state resources. Nobody will buy for self new yacht or collection of Ferrari cars because made profit (earned state money just because owned factory and sell parts in 2-3-50 times more of real price; typical situation in USA). Price of rocket is equal to price of materials from which it made + salary of workers which earn the same salary regardless amount of rockets they produce (fixed salary once per month). Significant share of this money very soon return back to state.
      While you comparing with American system where whole space industry in hands of commercial companies. Each of they want some profit (and people in that companies actually incredible rich, including billionaires, they have more money than Russia spent of whole own space program). It is why on each stage of production of any part price is growing to some inadequate values, so everything is incredible overpriced. In such conditions arrived SpaceX which proposed reusable rockets. It allow to save money. In USA it is works because everything overpriced, in Russia it can’t work, because prices already equal to prime cost.
      It is possibly in Russia to decrease price, but only a bit (cost of scrap), but actually it is complicated and expensive process. It need to rebuild factories. As I said, workers earn same salary, irrelevant amount of rockets they made. So, with reusables rockets, if you made 3 rockets per year, and spend on this 3 months, what workers must to do rest 9 month? You need to reorganize factory in such way, that workers will do another work, as example build satellites, engines and so on. Maybe you need to fire some of them, but you need before to find for them another work.
      Then you comparing prices on market. But actually there are no real open market. Why at Soviet times nobody used Russian rockets to launch satellites? Why nobody almost never use Chinese rockets nowadays? Because Americans deny to whole world, threat with sanctions and close access to American parts/electronics for satellites.
      In 1990s after dissolve of USSR, Americans afraid that without money Russian scientists will spread around whole world and build for a lot of countries rockets (like Ukrainians which moved to North Korea where built ICBM/SLBM). As example India signed with Russia such deal, they ordered creation of whole space industry from ground to space station. Americans in panic forced Yeltsin to cancel this deal and signed agreement, that they will not block for other countries orders of Russian rockets, but Russia must hold prices somewhere near average of American market, so American space industry could live and not died (as it happened with uranium enrichment industry in USA because Russians have more developed technology which costs in over 20 times cheaper). So, you see not real Russian prices on rockets, but some overpriced. Actually reusable American rockets cost in several times more than non-reusable Russian or Chines.

    • @WayneBorean
      @WayneBorean 3 роки тому +1

      @@juliap.5375
      Do you have numbers showing that the Russian and Chinese boosters are less expensive?

    • @A31415
      @A31415 3 роки тому +1

      The propaganda that Julie is spreading is actually very common inside Russia. That the reusable rockets will never be as cheap as disposable ones. Paradox, but many believe.

  • @RawbLV
    @RawbLV 3 роки тому

    Damn, didn't know Russians had so much hardware. Thanks Scott!

  • @woodkid5719
    @woodkid5719 3 роки тому +6

    You pronounce “Vodorod” (Hydrogen) correctly.
    Hello from Russia)))

  • @jdniedner
    @jdniedner 3 роки тому

    Annnnd it launched December 14, 2020. Came back here to refresh. Lots of launch clips from lots of angles. No other flight info yet... Curious to see if it works well.

  • @user-cr6es5kt4s
    @user-cr6es5kt4s 3 роки тому +1

    Actually, it took 6 years to launch another Angara because the production was moved completely from Moscow to another city, which is almost same distanse from "Plesetsk" and Russian new launching site "Vostochny". This decision was also in line with the so-called "regional develorment" program (an attempt to somehow equalize the economy growth in different areas of Russia). Although it got a bit out of shedule, Russian govermnent is quite happy with the way things go. New Angaras should now be produced and tested much quicker and easier.

  • @joesephbidomeus2134
    @joesephbidomeus2134 3 роки тому +1

    I see you lunched the Angara in kerbal space program, did you use any mods for it? If so, please link me them!

  • @edp2260
    @edp2260 3 роки тому +1

    At this rate the venerable Proton's future is assured for years (maybe decades!) to come.

    • @A31415
      @A31415 3 роки тому +3

      Unlikely. Proton production was stopped in December 2019. There are 7-9 remaining sets of hardware available for launches through 2025. After that even the launch facilities for proton will be decommissioned.

  • @Aceb_k
    @Aceb_k 3 роки тому +2

    I can't wait for it, I wonder if they use Angara instead of the Yenisei🤔

    • @MouradMokrane
      @MouradMokrane 3 роки тому

      As far as I know, Yenisey has been abandoned in favor of Angara.

  • @JoeBissell
    @JoeBissell 3 роки тому +22

    Good morning nerds.

  • @denslipped
    @denslipped 3 роки тому

    In development - A1.2 , A5, A5P(M), A5V space rockets. 14C48 (DM-03 modification) - main upper stage for А5 and A5M, then it will be forced 14С49, scheduled for the third launch. The second launch should confirm the competence in the production of the Angara space complex of the new plant in Siberia.

  • @pgkoutro8678
    @pgkoutro8678 3 роки тому

    According to Dimitri Rogozin (МОСКВА, 8 октября. /ТАСС) the long delay between the first and second launch of Angara-A5 was (mainly) due to the fact that the first launch did not put the required payload mass into orbit and it was required to completely revise the design documentation (my translation).

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 3 роки тому

    Hi Scot just a wee question 🙋‍♂️ did you do the teen challenge rehab program in Kilmalcolm back in 2001? I swear I recognise you from somewhere lol 😝

  • @axone9413
    @axone9413 3 роки тому +10

    Hey, Scott.
    Have you heard (i guess you have) about russian nuclear space tug? I want a video from you about that thing )

    • @oberguga
      @oberguga 3 роки тому +1

      Project looks stuck... For 10-15 years))

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 3 роки тому

      @@oberguga What was that recent thing about the Russians testing some sort of nuclear engine then? Happened before Covid-19 was a big thing so it's ancient history now, but it was all over the (space) news and Scott did a video on it.

    • @MouradMokrane
      @MouradMokrane 3 роки тому

      A test vehicle is indeed being built (photos of the assembly are available online), and will probably be launching next year. The nuclear-powered space tug should be a great orbit to orbit transfer vehicle, and is planned to be the main workhorse for the Russian moon program, with Mars coming next.

    • @oberguga
      @oberguga 3 роки тому

      @@MouradMokrane no it's probably mockup for exibition. Russian launched spacecraft with nuclear thruster in late 80s bu it failed. Sinse I don't hear about real project. Only projects with rapidly sliding date if with date at all. I think if they do something it would be done in 30s.

    • @oberguga
      @oberguga 3 роки тому

      @@44R0Ndin They changed main contractor in 19 or late 18... So basically project start again. Only concept more or less stable. As I said ~10 years if they lucky.

  • @andriimartynov83
    @andriimartynov83 3 роки тому

    Absolutely, водород is hydrogen. And you nailed it.

  • @milotv120
    @milotv120 3 роки тому

    Angara is very underated imo...

  • @rogerc7960
    @rogerc7960 3 роки тому +51

    Moscow: Billion dollar subsidy for a manned moon rocket.
    Russians: get a dummy payload to GEO.

    • @Humanoidmp
      @Humanoidmp 3 роки тому +9

      Most “dummy” payloads are almost always military satellites

    • @JohnDoe-420
      @JohnDoe-420 3 роки тому +1

      Pretty much the Russian SLS, lol

    • @MaycroftCholmsky
      @MaycroftCholmsky 3 роки тому +14

      Well, the point is Russian space agency (Roskosmos) knows full well they don't want to go to the Moon, it will require too much work. In a meantime, it's head, Dmitri Rogozin, the right-hand man of ex-president Medvedev (a placeholder who kept the chair warm while Putin didn't still want to rewrite constitution in his favour) also knows he wants to have a new mansion and a bigger, better yacht. So, first they say on TV how Russia is planning to build a base on the Moon by 2022 and invest money to Roskosmos, then they let people forget about it a little, then Crimea heppens, the rouble plumits and ukrainian manufacturers refuse to sell engines to Russia, so everything can be blamed on them

    • @hermannabt8361
      @hermannabt8361 3 роки тому +5

      Rogozin offered to sent an electric Kamaz truck as the payload.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 3 роки тому +6

      Russia or better soviets were on the moon back in 1967 with the robot of course but they were there first. (luna programme)

  • @impguardwarhamer
    @impguardwarhamer 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video Scott.
    I had a pretty negative view on the Angara, mainly because it seemed a step back from some of the energia plans of the USSR (and also cus it's kinda ugly), but it's promising to see there is atleast some innovation from the manufacturing side of things, and the political considerations do help put things into context.

    • @user-iz1ix9on2u
      @user-iz1ix9on2u 3 роки тому

      in a post-soviet russia there was no chanse to resurrect energia-type rockets, cuz of its diametr and propellent. russian railroads supports 4.1 m in diametr, while Energia-type rockets were 7,7 and 8 meters. And an only one hydrogen plant in USSR were in Uzbekistan. Nowadays in Russia still ther's no hydrogen plant. But it will be built by 2025, cuz KVTK and A5V must be launched a year later

  • @declan9876
    @declan9876 8 місяців тому

    nice

  • @planb1635
    @planb1635 3 роки тому

    There were talks of baikal boosters on Angara. Have they given up on those boosters?

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to see a SSTO, combined with an nuclear powered ferry that ferries stuff from LEO to GeoStat, Lunar or even interplanetary trajectories. Stick a wee mass driver on the moon and a permanent base in Lunar orbit, to send up water ice, and fuel costs will drop dramatically.

  • @elopeous3285
    @elopeous3285 3 роки тому

    edit. fixed.
    Great vid on a pretty unknown rocket

  • @andrewberg751
    @andrewberg751 3 роки тому +6

    Can you please do a video on expedition 7 of the ISS?

    • @LSF17
      @LSF17 3 роки тому

      What happened on expedition 7?

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +6

      @@LSF17 It was after the Columbia disaster, they sent up a crew of 2 to keep things running - Ed Lu & Yuri Malenchenko

    • @LSF17
      @LSF17 3 роки тому +1

      @@scottmanley OMG HE REPLIED TO ME!!!!
      Also thanks for the info!

  • @t.mitchell9135
    @t.mitchell9135 3 роки тому

    Can you do a video on the Soyuz-5?