temporary t1meout lol 1 l1ke h1s jokes too... all the 1ntellectual sh normally fl1es over my head but that parts 1ve understood have been v 1nterest1ng aswell
I've wanted to do a video about him forever it just keeps getting moved around like the rykard video I've been working on but I totally agree, vyke was the best of the tarnished
@@TheHonoredMadman vyke is like the artorias of this game, I hope that he gets another boss fight in dlc where his upsized and his moveset is more unique
My favorite instance of this was slave knight Gael, he starts off as a questionable fellow you meet in a church but after he pulls you into the scrap of paper he comes a solid ally and you learn of his motivation, helps you fight friede, sets off to find the pigment, then the ringed city rolls around and he's left tracks and directions for you to follow and boom he again helps you out here at the end of the world against forgotten demons and a massive abyss dragon, but he presumably goes on seeking the pigment until we time-travel forward and find out that the crazy bastard ate the world and now he wants our part of the dark soul. Epic fight ensues. Artorias is a great fight and I love that he was willing to shield his dog since he was doomed anyway, but technically he just takes credit for everything we the player do in that DLC, even saving sif, the Cheshire cat and the player are the ones who save young wolf sif. I think artorias is iconic for sure, I just love the Gael stuff
@@russian_knight that’d be sick, make it look like his lightning is kinda fighting with the frenzy flame to take over his body, give him a move where he leaps off the top his spear after thrusting it into the ground then kicks you, that’d be sick
My headcanon for Godefroy and Goddrick is that the two tried to escape the capital, and since Godefroy got captured and sentenced to eternal jail, Goddrick escaped disguised as a lady using the mimics veil. Then he decided to honor Godefroy by grafting to become strong like him. Perhaps another reason he hired sell swords was to prevent getting betrayed by his own knights and imprisoned in an Evergaol like his ancestor/brother/relative
@@TheHonoredMadman would be a cool video idea to discuss Godefroy, and even the other demigods who aren’t important to the story (like the soulless ones in the mausoleums and Melina/GEQ) like the runebearers
@@mausebas IMO, Godefroy probably wanted to leave with Goddrick and hole up at Stormveil after the Elden Ring was shattered, all the other major demigods claimed Great Runes and amassed armies so Leyndell was bound to be attacked. If Godefroy stayed he probably would’ve had to fight under Morgott when he could escape with Goddrick. I have some headcanon that the two would’ve grafted to each other to become more powerful once they arrived in Stormveil
@@rxblessed Legendary ashen remains. Use to summon the spirit of Kristoff, the Ancient Dragon Knight. Spirit of Kristoff, an honorable knight of Leyndell who was also a devout worshipper of the ancient dragons. His skills strike down foes with thunderbolts, the dragons' weapon of choice. After the First Defense of Leyndell, Kristoff earned the hero's honor of Erdtree Burial for the feat of capturing Godefroy the Grafted. He invaded capital and failed captured by Kristoff. We can see in the trailer that Godrick soldiers have invaded the capital. These are not normally Godrick soldiers. They belong to Godofrey. When Godofrey is captured, his property is inherited by Godrick.
Is it because of - their lore or - evergaol bosses just immediately aggro on anything but we couldn't tell in-game normally, because we are the only thing in the evergaol environment to aggro onto?
Thought: only the named bosses in evergaols have stories. Ones without names are just there to be boss fights. The biggest exception to this probably being the Ancient Hero of Zamor
I don't believe this, as stated in the beginning... there are prisoners from past wars, so yeah they don't have much if a back story but it's simple to just say bosses like the carian giant in liurnia of the lakes is just a espically bad soilder or somone who committed mutiny
Idk the fact that 1. the crucible knight is imo a very tough boss for how early most first time players fight him and 2. how important they are to the game’s cosmology (like they are the most visible/salient yet mysterious representations of what the world was like before the greater will/erdtree/two fingers came around or at least before they controlled everything) makes me a little reluctant to say “it’s just there to be a boss fight.” I mean with From anything is possible but they could’ve put anything there and yet they put an enemy that both 1. has a ton of lore significance and 2. is still sort of a pain in the ass when you fight one in Farum Azula at least on your first playthrough
I think I’ve come to conclusion that the “gloam-eye” is an acquired characteristic of harboring death. Examples of course are the Queen of the Godskins, Gurranq with his festering beast eye, and Melina, when she vows to slay the Lord of Chaos
@@TheHonoredMadman I dont think you’re technically “killing everything” you’re destroying the boundaries that distinguish one being from another. Essentially all organisms are becoming a part of you.
@@Austib_ As I understand it, in the frenzied flame you essentially return everything to one existence as it was before the Greater Will formed the Erdtree and created life out of the Crucible.
@@TheHonoredMadman Well eyes are the 'windows to the soul' right? Well every outer god effect we've seen has messed with eyes in some sense. Color in general matters a lot in Elden Ring though like with the giants and in turn Radagon's red hair or the obvious grace of gold, the darkmoon ect. Bloody finger or getting Formless mother blood gives you red eyes. Dragon hearts give you yellow eyes. Frenzied Handjob gives you frenzied eyes. Even Malenia's were rotted out. So the "gloam eyes" being relevant to death wouldn't just be interesting, it would fit the pattern entirely.
22:18 "The Carians didn't know Ranni was the orchestrator of this plot and they just thought: wow someone just murdered one of our princesses, they wanted blood, so they murdered Tiche". I'm missing something(s) here "Carians don't know Ranni was gonna off herself on the NOTBK so they think shes murdered by they Black Knives." Im following so far, shes dies with the cursemark and all. Tiche's ashes say she was killed protecting Alecto fleeing the capital on the NOTBK. So the night would go like this: Ranni has a fragment of death, (another question of mine) she laces the Knives at the Carian manor, the assassins take the lift and kill Godwyn, the escape plan is to flee the capital southwest, hit the Grand Lift, go to Carian Manor, and take the portal in Renna's Rise back to Nokstella? But when Ranni ends up dead the Carians cut them off before the portal, kill Tiche, and imprison Alecto? And seeing as we dont encounter many Carians, Im assuming it would be Renala who cut them off? As I'm rewriting this more it makes some more sense now (if im correct) seeing as Black Knives go after Ranni once presence is discovered after her supposed death when she yoinks the fingerslayer blade, so the BKA's go after her for fucking them on NOTBK then stealing the blade but encounter a Feral Blaidd, and go after Iji probably because he was the imprisoner of Alecto. If this is incorrect, what is correct? Also I cant figure out how Ranni steals a fragment of death from Maliketh. Does Marika just slip her one and its poor wording in english? Im guessing Ranni had the Godskin carve the curse on her seeing as hes guarding the sacred tower with her body.
I think it could be easy for Ranni to get a shard of death. She's the child of Marika, while Maliketh would definitely wipe her out in a fight with death, he was the guardian and 'sibling' of her mother. Odds are he had a close relationship with her spawn or at bare minimum respect due to his connection to her Mother. Maliketh also acts like it was his fault for them getting it. Which considering he took out the Gloam eye and took her death, I doubt anyone was beating him in a fight except for Marika herself. Just steal it and dip when he's not paying good enough attention because he doesn't think the child of Marika would ever attempt it. Ranni is also the only Empyrean with a beast shadow like Marika herself. Which makes me wonder if she had a closer connection to Maliketh in some sense, but that part is just complete speculation. I can definitely see the Godskin carving the curse in her flesh, but the way Rogier talks about the cursemark knive's implies the ritual was more Ranni than anyone else. So perhaps he was just in search for the Cursemark because it could arguably a part of death or sense like it? That's a very interesting take on why the black knives are going after Ranni though.
I think the answer to how ranni gets the rune of death is bound up in who the dusk eyed queen actually is (marika? Melina?), as she and the godskins originally held the rune of death. If i had to guess... i think marika IS the gloam eyed queen (though i wanted it to be melina), and that she both bound the rune and had the best access to get part of it... kinda betraying maliketh at the same time.
@@theworstcatholic7247 I forgot to return to this, to point you towards an underlying assumption of my question regarding how Ranni stole a fragment of death, which is what @Michael Werkov wrote: that there's reason to believe Marika (or Melina) was the Gloam Eyed Queen. So when you wrote "I doubt anyone was beating him in a fight except for Marika herself", the two of us are inclined to think the same. Check out videos by The Ashen Hollow and Last Protagonist that expand on this further.
This was surprising - like rapid fire lore. Love it. Honestly, either a video on the Lands of Reeds, or perhaps on the One Great and the logical implications of allowing gods to die would be interesting. Or how stars work, in terms of sorcery, being creatures, and altering fate.
I don't think Darriwil imprisoned himself, as when you summon Blaidd for the fight, he says "Rotting in a cell is no true justice", implying he was put there as punishment.
Honestly I like the idea that this crucible knight was locked away by Godrick, giving him an ultimatum to either join him or be locked away. Since it makes sense Godrick is a coward well also being a scheming bastard as well but that’s just my opinions on that one.🤔🐱
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I think Vyke was attacked by an alliance of elite warriors. In the cover art, it depicts Ensha and Jerren defeated by Vyke along with some other bodies that resemble a Tarnished Champion, a warrior who wore the Iron Set, and a Carian Knight. The last 3 I’m the least confident identifying but it’s safe to say Jerren and Ensha were involved in the imprisoning (or splitting) of Vyke.
The entire Battlemage Hughes segment made me _loathe_ that we don't have a STR-scaling sorcery catalyst akin to the Clawmark seal for incantations. Given the multi-scaling catalyst variety and how much love STR/INT has gotten this generation of FromSoft, it feels especially unfortunate.
Honestly the fact you couldn't get ANY of Morgot's attacks as incantations is one of the biggest disappoints for them from me. (The first being not having an actual dragon form like previous games.) He's got throwing daggers, a greatsword, a spear AND the hammer, not even the falling sword attack in his phase two would be necessary(Though a nerfed version would be badass), but give me those four at least.
I believe that Darriwil is called a traitor by Blaidd because he failed to continue to serve Ranni after she slayed her flesh. It is said that when a bloodhound knight chooses a master, they serve them for the rest of their lives. The wording suggests that it’s for both the bloodhound knight’s life or the master’s life depending on who goes first. I think that Darriwil served Ranni for a time but after she killed her physical body, Darriwil assumed that his service was over. From then on I’m not sure what happened but it is likely that Blaidd, who saw this as treachery went after him and Darriwil locked himself in the Evergaol to hide (or maybe was locked there by someone else? I don’t know) and that’s where we pick up.
Hughs is actually a very useful spirit summon that I got a lot of use out of in my very first playthrough of Elden Ring where i happened to have gone near full on mage as i got him really early on as his was the 1st Evergaol i found with him being the 1st unique ash I obtained and proceeded to use him until i got the mimic tear after which I benched him until I got to Malenia and found that none of my ashes were good enough against her as they either wouldn't do enough or would die to fast, even Tiche I found to be dissapointing as they didn't really grab aggro enough and would be ignored by her dissapointing me greatly. That was until I took out Hughs again and found that he is excellent against Malenia as his great pebbles really draw her attention and both his club and gavel always get a knockdown on her, now his damage did suck, but that's what the player's job is and his is being suppression he could even survive for a decent bit in the 2nd phase. Needless to say Hughs has his entirely viable uses no matter what anyone might say.
Gigachad Vyke VS Gigachad Artorias. Also, i think the rock worms are some sort of a security system, like maybe they are the things keeping the “seal” intact, or maybe they work like alarms/security cameras that send warnings somewhere if a prisoner escapes.
One of the main questions I have after this video is if the evergaols have only a small amount of area (the arena for when we fight a given boss) or if they allow people to roam wherever they want. For example, the fire giant's arena has the same "fog walls" as the evergaols, but the world still exists outside it.
thats a great point. i wonder if i cant disable the script the kicks me out of the area when i defeat the boss and see if the walls dissipate and let me walk around in the upside down
This may be my new favorite lore video - taking it just as seriously as it needs to be, but no more. Video games deep dives should sound like your bs-ing around the dorm room. Great job!
I'm on my 3rd playthrough; consecutively. Although I race through to unlock all the lands, I still take my time after to beat all gaols, catacombs, and caves. Such a fun game
I actually have a theory as to why there are black knife assassins in Ordina. According to the lore, Rykard took the blame for Ranni's conspiracy and had an active role in the slaying of Godwyn's soul by using his position as Praetor to facilitate the black knives's entry. In his boss theme there exists a reference to the black knives being sent to kill a goddess meaning that Rykard would eventually target Malenia due to fearing the rot goddess's spread (presumably after the battle of Aeonia where the scarlet flower blossomed for the first time.). Considering that not all black knives were caught because they come to clean house after Ranni departs on her journey, it's likely that the assassins in Ordina were on their way to slay Malenia before she could bloom once more under Rykard's orders, only problem being that they were unable to solve the puzzle and thus remain trapped in there. Considering the evidence, I personally think this is the reason.
I like the evergaols due to having varied and mostly unique enemies, that can then be theorised about and fill up possible previous timelines etc, it just feels like it fleshes out the world more by showing it has a history
0:45 I don't think they power or maintain the Evergaols, otherwise killing all of them would open/free the prisoners. Also, they are also found at location without Evergaols or similar structures. So I rather think that they siphon or live off the powers which have created or are powering these Gaols.
Now, i absolutely fucking love the evergaols, they're really really interesting and also extremely ominous because of the extremely dark surroundings, and I'd like to give some theories on them. Not necessarily a theory but just something I want to know is why the hell vyke is in an evergaol, but without his madness. It really just doesn't make sense to me, despite it being really cool. Darriwell is very cool as well, and I think he may have served ranni, but found out she wanted to go against the two fingers, and Abandoned her , leading to the events in game. The crucible knight at the stormhill evergaol is a great learning tool for the player at the start, and speaking of them, I'd love to see you make a video on them, I would like to make my own but we really don't know much about them. They're really interesting and they all have really unique stories we can form from them just based around the environments they're in and what they're doing in them, they're really badass. I believe the alabaster(?) Lord outside of the caria manor I think is actually one of radahn's teachers, who learned of the plot to kill radahn to free the stars and decided to try and put a stop to that shit, he failed fucking Miserably but it was a noble effort I guess. Finally, As for the blue and purple shadow shit that the prisoners walk out of, I think it could be 2 things: 1, some kind of sleep that you wake them up from 2, and more likely, this shit is what actually keeps them locked down in the evergaol, keeping them from roaming around the already little room they already have in the evergaol.
Thought on Vyke specifically: he's the only tarnished we see in the gaols, I think he was imprisoned before the names fly to him over, and although he is stuck there, he can still invade us since it seems only tarnished are able to invade others. Since the gaols are frozen in time/ space, the second he invades or realm time continues and the frenzied flame consumes him since he's no longer frozen in time Or maybe I'm high AF.
Adun is a Tarnished, you can even inflict madness on him proving this. Also you can be invaded by Tanith's crucible knight if you kill her after beating Rykard and returning to his arena
I think I foubd my new favorite lore channel. The topics you cover are amongst the most interesting stuff in this gsme, not the usual "lore of the XYZ" type. You always seem to give as many explanations as possible to any one subject, and you remember to point out this might be completely wrong which is true but so many channels try pretending to be the only possible explanation. I, for one, am going to sub and keep a close eye on your content from here on out
I've missed a few of your videos, I'll have to sit down at dinner next and watch. Thing for you: Ranni refers to spirit ash we use as 'unreturned to the Erdtree'. Could this imply we're not supposed to be playing medieval pokemon and keeping them in the PC box that is our inventory?
My theory for the Crucible Knight is that he and that other Crucible Knight on the cliff in Stormveil were left behind by Godfrey to protect the castle in his absence. Since they were pissed at the Golden Order for banishing Godfrey, they were the ones who allowed the Godskins to use Stormveil to practice their spells (or whatever they do there) since there's a room with the Godskin talisman and prayerbook closed by a stonesword key. When Godrick came to Stormveil, he beat the Crucible Knights, and imprisoned one.
Yes, after killing his maiden he traps his mind in the evergaol to atone for killing her and all that's left is a deranged husk of a man that attacks anything that comes near. Hence the festering part of the invading vyke's title
i like to imagine that vyke is the reason why morgott sealed off both the frenzy proscription and the passage to the forbidden lands. as in, somehow vyke learned that the erdtree needed to burn without killing morgott to see the thorns first, and when morgott was informed that someone came THAT close to burning the erdtree, he sealed off both of the means by which vyke would have done it: the flame of frenzy and the passage to the forge of the giants
Love your videos man. You remind me of the EpicNameBro Dark Souls 1 days (kudos to anyone who remembers him) where people were speculating on lore a bunch and no one really knew anything for certain but it was nonetheless fun to ponder and speculate and just discuss things in a chill way.
The spot on the ground where the prisoners pop out of in the gaol kinda looks like the center part of the rift shield to me. I think it could be described as a rift. Since the prisoner class is pretty mysterious lorewise, maybe there could be a more direct connecton between the class and the Evergoals?
I’m not sure if someone said this but I’m pretty sure Godfrey in the war of the dragons went to fight the “lord of the storm” aka the dragon lord(can’t remember his name) and I think some crucible knights where left behind after the war and they didn’t know it was over so they keep fighting
a theory and theme concerning those who followed Godfrey is that while Godfrey is idolized and revered throughout the Lands between, all his old allies are then criminalized and condemned by the Golden Order when they outlived their usefulness. The Crucible Knight and the Zamor warrior could've been pursued by their former allies the Golden Order to those locations and imprisoned them for whatever reason that death couldn't serve. and considering that Godfrey had an Omen under his services, if anything i think he'd be trying to break the knight out.
I always thought the evergaols existed outside our space/time so the two different versions of vyke are because one is before and the other is after he was corrupted
Keep the insightful videos coming dude, thank you for all the effort you put into them
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temporary t1meout lol 1 l1ke h1s jokes too... all the 1ntellectual sh normally fl1es over my head but that parts 1ve understood have been v 1nterest1ng aswell
Battlemage Hugues is such a battle nut that even after he dies, he wishes to continue fighting as a Spirit Ash Summon. Pretty dedicated man.
Mans picked the Devil Arm treatment over absolute death, and I respect that
Absolute chad. Probably thinking of how you bested him so he might as well join us
I used him throughout my entire first play through, I still make sure to pick up the lad he puts in work
I love everything about that man lol. His gavel bonks, his ranged super balls, and h8s melee prowess makes him one mean sumbitch 😀
The evergaols are some of my favourite “things” in the game, just because it’s an instant boss fight
Except that one tubby guy in western Liurnia. I can't spell, sorry.
@@OlExtraRegularBass yea, his kinda lame
@@OlExtraRegularBass firestealer?
@@macvadda2318 Yuh.
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27:42 I'm super fucking glad you acknowledged how much of a badass and gigachad vyke was , he doesn't get enough attention for how cool his story is
I've wanted to do a video about him forever it just keeps getting moved around like the rykard video I've been working on but I totally agree, vyke was the best of the tarnished
@@TheHonoredMadman vyke is like the artorias of this game, I hope that he gets another boss fight in dlc where his upsized and his moveset is more unique
@@skinless5136 same bro, make him like super lankey and fucked up, leaking fire out of his body and shit
My favorite instance of this was slave knight Gael, he starts off as a questionable fellow you meet in a church but after he pulls you into the scrap of paper he comes a solid ally and you learn of his motivation, helps you fight friede, sets off to find the pigment, then the ringed city rolls around and he's left tracks and directions for you to follow and boom he again helps you out here at the end of the world against forgotten demons and a massive abyss dragon, but he presumably goes on seeking the pigment until we time-travel forward and find out that the crazy bastard ate the world and now he wants our part of the dark soul. Epic fight ensues. Artorias is a great fight and I love that he was willing to shield his dog since he was doomed anyway, but technically he just takes credit for everything we the player do in that DLC, even saving sif, the Cheshire cat and the player are the ones who save young wolf sif. I think artorias is iconic for sure, I just love the Gael stuff
@@russian_knight that’d be sick, make it look like his lightning is kinda fighting with the frenzy flame to take over his body, give him a move where he leaps off the top his spear after thrusting it into the ground then kicks you, that’d be sick
My headcanon for Godefroy and Goddrick is that the two tried to escape the capital, and since Godefroy got captured and sentenced to eternal jail, Goddrick escaped disguised as a lady using the mimics veil. Then he decided to honor Godefroy by grafting to become strong like him.
Perhaps another reason he hired sell swords was to prevent getting betrayed by his own knights and imprisoned in an Evergaol like his ancestor/brother/relative
This is a great theory
@@TheHonoredMadman would be a cool video idea to discuss Godefroy, and even the other demigods who aren’t important to the story (like the soulless ones in the mausoleums and Melina/GEQ) like the runebearers
Why did godfrey want to leave the capital?
@@mausebas IMO, Godefroy probably wanted to leave with Goddrick and hole up at Stormveil after the Elden Ring was shattered, all the other major demigods claimed Great Runes and amassed armies so Leyndell was bound to be attacked. If Godefroy stayed he probably would’ve had to fight under Morgott when he could escape with Goddrick. I have some headcanon that the two would’ve grafted to each other to become more powerful once they arrived in Stormveil
@@rxblessed Legendary ashen remains.
Use to summon the spirit of Kristoff, the Ancient Dragon Knight.
Spirit of Kristoff, an honorable knight of Leyndell who was also a devout worshipper of the ancient dragons.
His skills strike down foes with thunderbolts, the dragons' weapon of choice.
After the First Defense of Leyndell, Kristoff earned the hero's honor of Erdtree Burial for the feat of capturing Godefroy the Grafted. He invaded capital and failed captured by Kristoff.
We can see in the trailer that Godrick soldiers have invaded the capital. These are not normally Godrick soldiers. They belong to Godofrey. When Godofrey is captured, his property is inherited by Godrick.
For testing purposes, I pulled Alabaster and Onyx Lord together in the Yelough Anix tunnel. They started attacking as they saw each other.
Is it because of
- their lore
or
- evergaol bosses just immediately aggro on anything but we couldn't tell in-game normally, because we are the only thing in the evergaol environment to aggro onto?
Thought: only the named bosses in evergaols have stories. Ones without names are just there to be boss fights. The biggest exception to this probably being the Ancient Hero of Zamor
I don't believe this, as stated in the beginning... there are prisoners from past wars, so yeah they don't have much if a back story but it's simple to just say bosses like the carian giant in liurnia of the lakes is just a espically bad soilder or somone who committed mutiny
Idk the fact that 1. the crucible knight is imo a very tough boss for how early most first time players fight him and 2. how important they are to the game’s cosmology (like they are the most visible/salient yet mysterious representations of what the world was like before the greater will/erdtree/two fingers came around or at least before they controlled everything) makes me a little reluctant to say “it’s just there to be a boss fight.”
I mean with From anything is possible but they could’ve put anything there and yet they put an enemy that both 1. has a ton of lore significance and 2. is still sort of a pain in the ass when you fight one in Farum Azula at least on your first playthrough
I think I’ve come to conclusion that the “gloam-eye” is an acquired characteristic of harboring death. Examples of course are the Queen of the Godskins, Gurranq with his festering beast eye, and Melina, when she vows to slay the Lord of Chaos
What about frenzied eyes? Since as the frenzied lord you can burn the erdtree and end the world, effectively killing everyrhing
@@TheHonoredMadman I mean, the dude has a nasty god in him. With the gloam-eye, I see it almost as a curse-mark characteristic.
@@TheHonoredMadman I dont think you’re technically “killing everything” you’re destroying the boundaries that distinguish one being from another. Essentially all organisms are becoming a part of you.
@@Austib_ As I understand it, in the frenzied flame you essentially return everything to one existence as it was before the Greater Will formed the Erdtree and created life out of the Crucible.
@@TheHonoredMadman Well eyes are the 'windows to the soul' right? Well every outer god effect we've seen has messed with eyes in some sense. Color in general matters a lot in Elden Ring though like with the giants and in turn Radagon's red hair or the obvious grace of gold, the darkmoon ect.
Bloody finger or getting Formless mother blood gives you red eyes.
Dragon hearts give you yellow eyes.
Frenzied Handjob gives you frenzied eyes.
Even Malenia's were rotted out.
So the "gloam eyes" being relevant to death wouldn't just be interesting, it would fit the pattern entirely.
I, honored madman, have a dream.
22:18 "The Carians didn't know Ranni was the orchestrator of this plot and they just thought: wow someone just murdered one of our princesses, they wanted blood, so they murdered Tiche". I'm missing something(s) here
"Carians don't know Ranni was gonna off herself on the NOTBK so they think shes murdered by they Black Knives." Im following so far, shes dies with the cursemark and all.
Tiche's ashes say she was killed protecting Alecto fleeing the capital on the NOTBK. So the night would go like this: Ranni has a fragment of death, (another question of mine) she laces the Knives at the Carian manor, the assassins take the lift and kill Godwyn, the escape plan is to flee the capital southwest, hit the Grand Lift, go to Carian Manor, and take the portal in Renna's Rise back to Nokstella? But when Ranni ends up dead the Carians cut them off before the portal, kill Tiche, and imprison Alecto? And seeing as we dont encounter many Carians, Im assuming it would be Renala who cut them off?
As I'm rewriting this more it makes some more sense now (if im correct) seeing as Black Knives go after Ranni once presence is discovered after her supposed death when she yoinks the fingerslayer blade, so the BKA's go after her for fucking them on NOTBK then stealing the blade but encounter a Feral Blaidd, and go after Iji probably because he was the imprisoner of Alecto.
If this is incorrect, what is correct?
Also I cant figure out how Ranni steals a fragment of death from Maliketh. Does Marika just slip her one and its poor wording in english? Im guessing Ranni had the Godskin carve the curse on her seeing as hes guarding the sacred tower with her body.
I think it could be easy for Ranni to get a shard of death. She's the child of Marika, while Maliketh would definitely wipe her out in a fight with death, he was the guardian and 'sibling' of her mother. Odds are he had a close relationship with her spawn or at bare minimum respect due to his connection to her Mother.
Maliketh also acts like it was his fault for them getting it. Which considering he took out the Gloam eye and took her death, I doubt anyone was beating him in a fight except for Marika herself.
Just steal it and dip when he's not paying good enough attention because he doesn't think the child of Marika would ever attempt it. Ranni is also the only Empyrean with a beast shadow like Marika herself. Which makes me wonder if she had a closer connection to Maliketh in some sense, but that part is just complete speculation.
I can definitely see the Godskin carving the curse in her flesh, but the way Rogier talks about the cursemark knive's implies the ritual was more Ranni than anyone else. So perhaps he was just in search for the Cursemark because it could arguably a part of death or sense like it?
That's a very interesting take on why the black knives are going after Ranni though.
I think the answer to how ranni gets the rune of death is bound up in who the dusk eyed queen actually is (marika? Melina?), as she and the godskins originally held the rune of death.
If i had to guess... i think marika IS the gloam eyed queen (though i wanted it to be melina), and that she both bound the rune and had the best access to get part of it... kinda betraying maliketh at the same time.
@@theworstcatholic7247 I forgot to return to this, to point you towards an underlying assumption of my question regarding how Ranni stole a fragment of death, which is what @Michael Werkov wrote: that there's reason to believe Marika (or Melina) was the Gloam Eyed Queen. So when you wrote "I doubt anyone was beating him in a fight except for Marika herself", the two of us are inclined to think the same. Check out videos by The Ashen Hollow and Last Protagonist that expand on this further.
Came for the lore discussion
Stayed for the Bong rips
This was surprising - like rapid fire lore. Love it. Honestly, either a video on the Lands of Reeds, or perhaps on the One Great and the logical implications of allowing gods to die would be interesting. Or how stars work, in terms of sorcery, being creatures, and altering fate.
Or what is Radagon…
I don't think Darriwil imprisoned himself, as when you summon Blaidd for the fight, he says "Rotting in a cell is no true justice", implying he was put there as punishment.
I thought that too but I figured it could just be blaidd antagonizing his quarrey
Honestly I like the idea that this crucible knight was locked away by Godrick, giving him an ultimatum to either join him or be locked away. Since it makes sense Godrick is a coward well also being a scheming bastard as well but that’s just my opinions on that one.🤔🐱
This channel provides high quality lore explanations, theories and personal thoughts without any extra fluff. I love this type of stuff and will continue to support you good sir.
2:00 I was just blindsided, legitimately the last thing I expected to hear in an Elden Ring lore video
Yes😂💯
1:58 The bong rip right into the lore explanation is such a power move
I think Vyke was attacked by an alliance of elite warriors. In the cover art, it depicts Ensha and Jerren defeated by Vyke along with some other bodies that resemble a Tarnished Champion, a warrior who wore the Iron Set, and a Carian Knight. The last 3 I’m the least confident identifying but it’s safe to say Jerren and Ensha were involved in the imprisoning (or splitting) of Vyke.
The entire Battlemage Hughes segment made me _loathe_ that we don't have a STR-scaling sorcery catalyst akin to the Clawmark seal for incantations. Given the multi-scaling catalyst variety and how much love STR/INT has gotten this generation of FromSoft, it feels especially unfortunate.
A faith based hammer incant would be something like morgott's hammer attack. God I wish we had that
Yeah that's what I was thinking of too, I was super bummed when I figured out we couldn't get it despite fighting morgott 3 times lol
Honestly the fact you couldn't get ANY of Morgot's attacks as incantations is one of the biggest disappoints for them from me. (The first being not having an actual dragon form like previous games.) He's got throwing daggers, a greatsword, a spear AND the hammer, not even the falling sword attack in his phase two would be necessary(Though a nerfed version would be badass), but give me those four at least.
@@theworstcatholic7247 surely we get something like that in the dlc whenever it arrives
@@martian_turtle4070 Who knows, might just be a dropped concept. We'll have to wait and see.
Been trapped in my room for the last week with pneumonia, is that an evergaol?
I believe that Darriwil is called a traitor by Blaidd because he failed to continue to serve Ranni after she slayed her flesh. It is said that when a bloodhound knight chooses a master, they serve them for the rest of their lives. The wording suggests that it’s for both the bloodhound knight’s life or the master’s life depending on who goes first. I think that Darriwil served Ranni for a time but after she killed her physical body, Darriwil assumed that his service was over. From then on I’m not sure what happened but it is likely that Blaidd, who saw this as treachery went after him and Darriwil locked himself in the Evergaol to hide (or maybe was locked there by someone else? I don’t know) and that’s where we pick up.
Madman: "... without any summons..."
Blaidd: "Well fuck you too then."
Lol nice catch I had forgot blaidd was summonable so I had to edit in a part about him being a summon for one of them haha
I think you're on to something with the Onyx and Alabaster Lords being in opposition. Onyx is black and alabaster is white.
I think one uses gravity magic that pulls in and the other uses gravity magic that repulses as well
Racist
the casual bong hit is a nice addition
The fat bong rip for no reason 💀
Fr nigga 😂
Hughs is actually a very useful spirit summon that I got a lot of use out of in my very first playthrough of Elden Ring where i happened to have gone near full on mage as i got him really early on as his was the 1st Evergaol i found with him being the 1st unique ash I obtained and proceeded to use him until i got the mimic tear after which I benched him until I got to Malenia and found that none of my ashes were good enough against her as they either wouldn't do enough or would die to fast, even Tiche I found to be dissapointing as they didn't really grab aggro enough and would be ignored by her dissapointing me greatly. That was until I took out Hughs again and found that he is excellent against Malenia as his great pebbles really draw her attention and both his club and gavel always get a knockdown on her, now his damage did suck, but that's what the player's job is and his is being suppression he could even survive for a decent bit in the 2nd phase. Needless to say Hughs has his entirely viable uses no matter what anyone might say.
Lol, i love how the battlemage hughes footage cut off right as a soldier saw you using the binoculars and ran over
Your videos are very chill to watch, I like how distinctly differentiate between what is and isn't speculation so that everything's clear
Gigachad Vyke VS Gigachad Artorias.
Also, i think the rock worms are some sort of a security system, like maybe they are the things keeping the “seal” intact, or maybe they work like alarms/security cameras that send warnings somewhere if a prisoner escapes.
I imagined that each Evergaol I beat was another seal being broken on a giant prison. Like locks for a giant secret Evergaol with a god inside.
One of the main questions I have after this video is if the evergaols have only a small amount of area (the arena for when we fight a given boss) or if they allow people to roam wherever they want. For example, the fire giant's arena has the same "fog walls" as the evergaols, but the world still exists outside it.
thats a great point. i wonder if i cant disable the script the kicks me out of the area when i defeat the boss and see if the walls dissipate and let me walk around in the upside down
@@TheHonoredMadman That would be cool
" 'Evergaol'...not to be confused with 'temporary timeout' ".
hearing rip a fat puff while staring up at the sky while an aethereal turtle floats around is pure art.
This may be my new favorite lore video - taking it just as seriously as it needs to be, but no more. Video games deep dives should sound like your bs-ing around the dorm room. Great job!
Such a legend for that bong rip in the beginning 🤣
The one eye on the head of the rockworm reminds me of the redeye orb.
I'm on my 3rd playthrough; consecutively. Although I race through to unlock all the lands, I still take my time after to beat all gaols, catacombs, and caves. Such a fun game
I actually have a theory as to why there are black knife assassins in Ordina. According to the lore, Rykard took the blame for Ranni's conspiracy and had an active role in the slaying of Godwyn's soul by using his position as Praetor to facilitate the black knives's entry. In his boss theme there exists a reference to the black knives being sent to kill a goddess meaning that Rykard would eventually target Malenia due to fearing the rot goddess's spread (presumably after the battle of Aeonia where the scarlet flower blossomed for the first time.). Considering that not all black knives were caught because they come to clean house after Ranni departs on her journey, it's likely that the assassins in Ordina were on their way to slay Malenia before she could bloom once more under Rykard's orders, only problem being that they were unable to solve the puzzle and thus remain trapped in there. Considering the evidence, I personally think this is the reason.
"there's no way that the pests are the best viable option for the lands between. that's why I call them awful"
lmao
I like the evergaols due to having varied and mostly unique enemies, that can then be theorised about and fill up possible previous timelines etc, it just feels like it fleshes out the world more by showing it has a history
0:45 I don't think they power or maintain the Evergaols, otherwise killing all of them would open/free the prisoners. Also, they are also found at location without Evergaols or similar structures.
So I rather think that they siphon or live off the powers which have created or are powering these Gaols.
Yeah I didn't really think that one through, I think you're right though they probably feed off of the residual magic energy
Really good video, I didn’t expect all the extra lore into the enemies like the crucible knights.
Really interesting lore + some great humor. Loved the vid!
I think the Hero of Zamor drops the soreseal because he knows the real identity of radagon/Marika and so he got imprisoned
Thanks for the insight that 99% of people watching this video already completed the game several times and don't need basic explanations, great video!
Now, i absolutely fucking love the evergaols, they're really really interesting and also extremely ominous because of the extremely dark surroundings, and I'd like to give some theories on them.
Not necessarily a theory but just something I want to know is why the hell vyke is in an evergaol, but without his madness. It really just doesn't make sense to me, despite it being really cool.
Darriwell is very cool as well, and I think he may have served ranni, but found out she wanted to go against the two fingers, and Abandoned her , leading to the events in game.
The crucible knight at the stormhill evergaol is a great learning tool for the player at the start, and speaking of them, I'd love to see you make a video on them, I would like to make my own but we really don't know much about them. They're really interesting and they all have really unique stories we can form from them just based around the environments they're in and what they're doing in them, they're really badass.
I believe the alabaster(?) Lord outside of the caria manor I think is actually one of radahn's teachers, who learned of the plot to kill radahn to free the stars and decided to try and put a stop to that shit, he failed fucking Miserably but it was a noble effort I guess.
Finally, As for the blue and purple shadow shit that the prisoners walk out of, I think it could be 2 things:
1, some kind of sleep that you wake them up from
2, and more likely, this shit is what actually keeps them locked down in the evergaol, keeping them from roaming around the already little room they already have in the evergaol.
It's possible that being imprisoned in the evergaol removes any influence of outer gods, as vyke had the 3 fingers within him
That soda mustve been so good to drink in the beginning
The bong rip is probably my favorite part 🤣🤣🤣
On god nigga 😂
Finally a channel with elden ring lore that gets high while I get high you can’t sit down for a lore video and not toke!
I had to laugh out loud when you said "it's called an ever-jail, not a fucking temporary time-out"
Its not called temporary time out. 😅🤣🤣.. subbed
Subscribed just for the bong hit alone 😂😂 and ofc the great lore coverage too
oh my god i havent even gotten past the intro and i already know i gotta subscribe. love your style of storytelling and explaining! :)
I'm new here but at 1:59 did he just take a drag of that good shit? 😂
Subbed for the fat bong rip
Thought on Vyke specifically: he's the only tarnished we see in the gaols, I think he was imprisoned before the names fly to him over, and although he is stuck there, he can still invade us since it seems only tarnished are able to invade others.
Since the gaols are frozen in time/ space, the second he invades or realm time continues and the frenzied flame consumes him since he's no longer frozen in time
Or maybe I'm high AF.
The latter.
Adun is a Tarnished, you can even inflict madness on him proving this. Also you can be invaded by Tanith's crucible knight if you kill her after beating Rykard and returning to his arena
I think I foubd my new favorite lore channel. The topics you cover are amongst the most interesting stuff in this gsme, not the usual "lore of the XYZ" type. You always seem to give as many explanations as possible to any one subject, and you remember to point out this might be completely wrong which is true but so many channels try pretending to be the only possible explanation.
I, for one, am going to sub and keep a close eye on your content from here on out
Hit that bong harder to fully understand this game
Heard a bong rip and instantly subscribed
The storm hill knight maybe was put in there after Godfrey was banished and refused to change sides
29:31 the village is frenzied because it's former merchants who tried to settle, they'll never be able to since the frenzy follows them everywhere
“It’s not fuckin called temporary time out” instant sub lol
I've missed a few of your videos, I'll have to sit down at dinner next and watch.
Thing for you: Ranni refers to spirit ash we use as 'unreturned to the Erdtree'. Could this imply we're not supposed to be playing medieval pokemon and keeping them in the PC box that is our inventory?
And subscribed. The rips are straight up ASMR
This is great content my man. Just felt like you were in a bad mood. Either way, liked and subscribed. 👍
2:00 oh no, now I gotta take a dab before starting 😂
My theory for the Crucible Knight is that he and that other Crucible Knight on the cliff in Stormveil were left behind by Godfrey to protect the castle in his absence. Since they were pissed at the Golden Order for banishing Godfrey, they were the ones who allowed the Godskins to use Stormveil to practice their spells (or whatever they do there) since there's a room with the Godskin talisman and prayerbook closed by a stonesword key. When Godrick came to Stormveil, he beat the Crucible Knights, and imprisoned one.
"Vyke was a DragonFcka." Lmfao word bro! Keep the Lore thorough AND entertaining.
NGL this dude has the demeanour of a substitute teacher who just regrets becoming a substitute teacher, and I'm here for that kind of energy.
Vyke did kill his maiden with the incantation inescapable frenzy and the vyke you find at the church is just his husk.
his husk is what invades you?
Yes, after killing his maiden he traps his mind in the evergaol to atone for killing her and all that's left is a deranged husk of a man that attacks anything that comes near. Hence the festering part of the invading vyke's title
i like to imagine that vyke is the reason why morgott sealed off both the frenzy proscription and the passage to the forbidden lands. as in, somehow vyke learned that the erdtree needed to burn without killing morgott to see the thorns first, and when morgott was informed that someone came THAT close to burning the erdtree, he sealed off both of the means by which vyke would have done it: the flame of frenzy and the passage to the forge of the giants
Love your videos man. You remind me of the EpicNameBro Dark Souls 1 days (kudos to anyone who remembers him) where people were speculating on lore a bunch and no one really knew anything for certain but it was nonetheless fun to ponder and speculate and just discuss things in a chill way.
It’s a great day when I can wind down with one of your vids!
“It’s not called fuckin, temporary timeout” 😂
The spot on the ground where the prisoners pop out of in the gaol kinda looks like the center part of the rift shield to me. I think it could be described as a rift. Since the prisoner class is pretty mysterious lorewise, maybe there could be a more direct connecton between the class and the Evergoals?
Heard him hit the bong and I subbed 😎
I like that “In today’s episode of Honored madman.”
Once again your the greatest UA-camr doin this hands down🙏🏽‼️
Can confirm the Onyx Lord had the former name I remember from fighting it but for some reason was changed with a patch!
Yeah I was confused about the existence of Alabaster Lord, must have been before I played this game.
The theory is that darriwil betrayed ranni after she switched bodies so he didn’t recognize her by scent
I’m not sure if someone said this but I’m pretty sure Godfrey in the war of the dragons went to fight the “lord of the storm” aka the dragon lord(can’t remember his name) and I think some crucible knights where left behind after the war and they didn’t know it was over so they keep fighting
New favourite UA-camr right here
I'm so happy for finally seeing someone covering the evergaols! (also, nice bong rip!)
Heard the bong and immediately subscribed lmao
“And then Vyke, after committing a great sin, was put in a temporary time-out.”
I remember someone saying that darriwil served ranni and didn’t consider her a master because she changed her form.
Agreed.
Did not expect the bubbler on the intro 😂 immediate thumbs-up
You sound high and drunk at the same time, love the video
Thanks for that quick hit before explaining😂 new sub
Hears a bong rip *immediately subscribes*
😤
a theory and theme concerning those who followed Godfrey is that while Godfrey is idolized and revered throughout the Lands between, all his old allies are then criminalized and condemned by the Golden Order when they outlived their usefulness. The Crucible Knight and the Zamor warrior could've been pursued by their former allies the Golden Order to those locations and imprisoned them for whatever reason that death couldn't serve. and considering that Godfrey had an Omen under his services, if anything i think he'd be trying to break the knight out.
This makes complete sense to me, great theory
You get a sub just for the toke.. need more 420 friends in this community. Lord knows this game requires it lmao
Love ur content bro always stoked to see new uploads
Bro I heard the bong and immediately subbed. I fuck with it my guy 😂
I’ll be patiently waiting for the Egyptian dubstep video with the wings of the crucible.
I always thought the evergaols existed outside our space/time so the two different versions of vyke are because one is before and the other is after he was corrupted
Well we never encounter the corrupted vyke in human form, only as invader, but I like this theory
Bloodhound's fang is just the murakamo, and i love it