IAF C-295 first to land at Navi Mumbai Airport: why it took 27 years, big gains for India & Mumbai
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2024
- After 27 years of its conceptualization, the Navi Mumbai International Airport is finally ready, with an IAF flight marking its inauguration on Friday. In episode 1532 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta reflects on the challenges that delayed its construction and the relief it will provide to Mumbai's overburdened airport.
Watch India’s 1st C295 and why this transport aircraft marks beginning of new era of Indian aviation here: • India’s 1st C295 and w...
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Only in India would you find people who have time to agitate over silly things like naming an airport. Dont these people have jobs and lives to keep them busy?
How about just name it Navi Mumbai airport
It can be informally named later
I would rather name and call it 'New Bombay Airport'.
Call it whatever mc... We will call it Navi Mumbai airport.
In Kerala they don't do such bullsheet. There's Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram, Kannur airports not Sri Sri Sri Sri Nadaprabhu Chakravarty Kingoji Maharaj Veera Baahubali Sashi Airport.
I THINK NAMING AFTER "RATAN TATA" WILL BE BE THE BEST OPTION
Finally someone who understands the crux of this entire airport development and the importance of this massive project- and has done a sensible analysis and reporting 👍👍
Politics aside, do not underestimate the amount of engineering that has gone into building this airport. Hats off to all the engineers involved in making this possible. This was not a typical location for an airport, and the project management and engineers overcame many challenges to get this done. I salute the engineers for their hard work on this project.
Rightly said "No infrastructure is waste" i remember 2 decades back when ORR was being build in Hyderabad, everyone said it was waste of money and rightly at that time it was!!!... today this is one of the transport life line of the city
True
The 74% stake in NMIA wasn’t GVK’s alone. GVK made the mistake of bidding for the project through MIAL (the original 37-27-10-26 JV between GVK, Bidvest, Airports Company of South Africa and AAI, respectively). Upon Adani acquiring Bidvest and ACSA’s, and later GVK’s, stakes in MIAL, MIAL became a subsidiary of the Adani Group, giving it control of BOM, and thus, NMIA. Thus, NMIA, which is a 74-26 JV between MIAL and CIDCO, is actually a 54.76-19.24-26 JV between Adani, AAI and CIDCO, respectively.
Interesting
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India is really INCREDIBLE now . New trans harbour link , New airport , New plane built in India . New coastal road , new railway lines Mumbai is being transformed
but people wont vote fr modi
And train accidents every month.
@@himanshuutube its been done for dogs like you to bark about ..its a planned sabotage
@@himanshuutube it's cause by some fantic human in India like you
We have built planes even earlier nothing new.
Navi Mumbai airport should be named after the Father of Indian Aviation; JRD Tata! Unfortunately this will not happen coz regional politicians are uneducated and care less about the nation as a whole more so its great contributing citizens
And now, undoubtedly, the Navi Mumbai International Airport should be named after Mr. Ratan Tata whose contribution to every area of the India' mainstream, is unprecedented.
This is the least we can do, as he was not even awarded the Bharat Ratna during his life.
Great suggestion!
They are very smart to name stadiums after themselves. I'm his supporter, but it is what it is.
It is already named after DB Patil
JRD Tata is a great man. Stop abusing regional politicians. We have heros galore who need to be recognised, not just one family - from to toilets to airports.
Don’t forget airport is also going to help Pune as it is just 90 minutes or so on express way. The IAF has always blocked new airport for Pune as they get loads of revenue (in form of landing charges )from civil use of it’s military airport
That's quite nice because then they wouldn't have to enter the mumbai traffic.
Ratan Tata International Airport, name it
Pune Air port was a donation of TATA to the Gov of India.The place is locally called the "TATA area".
FYI .. Bengaluru has two airports and 1 additional aerodrum, 2 more for indian Air Force, at least on books
Only one of these are open for civilian use.
We are talking about International standard Civil airports.
There is some news to open the HAL Airport back to civilian traffic.
@@raghu316 Not possible. BIAL will never agree to it. Getting MIAL and DIAL (brownfield projects) to agree to a new greenfield airport was a huge ask, BIAL (a greenfield project) will never agree to the reopening of HAL Airport.
@@darshilmashru8479 A second airport is planned in Bengaluru, Land acquistion may start,, also TN is planning an airport in Hosur,, So we 'll have three civilian airports
Believe it or not it took 27 years because it took 17 years for Modi to come in power and ten years to power tussle in Maharashtra to complete trans harbour link and operationalise navi mumbai airport. You can rationalise it, sugercoat it, make 10 different excuses or accuse modi of his photo op on trans harbour link but deep down we all know everything completes under Modi.
If only one listens upto 1.45 , modis work is enough to make one feel proud
Maharashtra infra credit goes to fadnavis, Mumbai metro line 3 was shunted due to Aditya thackrey arey bs, but when he returned back evening dcm role he reappointed ias ashwini Bhide who was removed because of her objection to Aditya thackrey, and look now those images of line 3 has become buzz of social media
@@nitinpatel1039 i agree my wife uses metro 3 from the day it started. Fadnavis is modi and RSS prodigy. Remember modi became CM and a MLA later he replicated this model across states by making fresh faces as CMs
So the State Government has 26% share and the Private sector has 74% but credit goes to Modi?
Great.
MVA has started the work and then Mahayuti has continued it. Shekhar ji has mentioned that too.
I know Modi ji is non-biological but please give others some credit too.
Obviously the centre has some roles on policies but those were cleared earlier.
The UPA government has cleared all the regulations.
They could not start Bcz of the CAG Vinod Rai,who single handedly pushed India at least 10 years behind by his criminal and extraordinary claims.
@@BharatThatIsIndia so private sector has to be credited??
if credit goes to him for one airstrip, blame must also go to him for 11 bridges falling in a single month in Bihar?
Modi government is the best Indian government as fast building infrastructure is concerned since independence. Hope voters of Mumbai notice the difference Modi government has made and vote accordingly
Modi government is building infrastructure? Oh really! I don't thing you travel within India enough or step outside your home. I don't think you live in India.
@@mcrand7887
I have a job which involves travelling pan India and I've seen significant improvements in tier 1,2,3 cities. Our country also has one of the largest road network in world which will take few more years to improve but yes this govt has alot importance to road network and nobody can deny it
@@pradyumnagunjal5000 Have you traveled in the Mumbai locals? Have you been on railway stations? Have you visited any bus stations? Have you visited the inner roads and the streets beside main roads? Have you visited the wet markets of the cities? These are the places where the perception meets the every days reality.
@@pradyumnagunjal5000 No, you are not traveling. You haven not visited or used any Mumbai railway station. You haven't traveled or got on and off Mumbai Locals. You have not explored the inner roads and streets of Indian cities. You haven't visited to any main bus stations to catch a bus. You never gone shopping to wet markets of Indian city. You haven't left the highway and gone into towns and villages. You haven't visited any country outside India and the airports that makes Indian airports look like filthy crowded railway station. And finally, you have not understood the meaning of 'infrastructure'.
@@mcrand7887 Dear friend ..
Please don't think you only know meaning of Infrastructure . No one is saying everything done & India is heaven . Yes there are problems but those are getting addressed .I stay in Kokan Village and travel a lot and find Roads , Railways , Airports have improved only .
Just see the increase in passangers , transactions and revenues which can't happen without general improvement ..
Point is in last 10 years implementation has become faster ..
The MVA aaghadi jeopardized the underground aqua line resulting in delays ...by this time the entire stretch to.colaba would have been operational...now it runs upto BKC and what a relief and 1 hour journey takes justb15 min
I can see Shekhar constructing the airport with his hands
I first saw the signboard for the Navi Airport back in 1993. This must be a world record ..
Modi hai toh mumkin hai
Tell me very honestly. If congress was in power, would any of this would have been possible??
If Congress was in power, all those contracts for building roads and airports would be taken over by corrupt politicians. Thank God BJP is in power. The last ten years speaks in volume. Let the record speaks for itself.
One just have to look at karnataka and himachal pradesh which got bankrupt after get congress to know what would have happened.
Never
yes, for 60 years india had no airports. only after modiji we saw airport first in country.
@@kumardev5098its equally important to have some ediots keeps the show interesting 😂
Can this airport please be named as The Ratan Tata International Airport?
yes please, people should always remember him
No sorry. Its already named after great person.
No
Ratan Tata wasn't a politician. So you can assume that this won't happen.
@@varunwagle It might be named after Sant Tukaram.
You are the first who has elucidated the details so nicely without any malice & personal motive to educate the people about need of hour which is must for the development of New Mumbai / INDIA . Great job dine
Positive video.
Much needed.
Great as usual, keep up the good work, team and sir.
Good,goods aircraft producing in india...Jai Hind
As usual another good story on a development issue; this is in contrast to many other outlets which are obsessed with politics, entertainment and scandals.
Hope the development work, including on the link infrastructure, is further expedited for an early completion.
But for the focused and pragmatic approach of the BJP government to speed-up project completion, there would have been more delays.
Mumbai airport is perhaps the most congested one I came across in some 56 countries I visited so far.
In April '24, due to congestion, it took 60 minutes for my Turkish airlines flight to take off from Mumbai after completing the boarding.
Congestion delays are costly to airlines and passengers. The aircraft was put on the auxiliary power to run the AC and systems till the push-back, wasting fuel. I missed my connection in Istanbul, and the baggage as well at the destination!
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Mr. Gupta, no Good news this week? Eh? BJP won in Haryana, Pakistan lost a cricket Test again after scoring 556 runs at Home; so many Good news this week! Haha
BJP win is bad news for him 😊😂
Also don’t forget mthl mumbai pune expressway connector! All the pune traffic back and forth will be using mthl.
Will the meddling with this 2 rivers will have any flooding issues later ,because rivers always find their way back. Just curiosity
Just the other day I left for US from Mumbai, as usual delayed by 1 + hr due traffic.
So all in all, Modi + Gadkari + Team can do the jobs and that too at a great pace..These infrastructure which we needed 2 decades back.
Shekhar Ji you know UPA and Shivsena+Cong+ NCP did nothing.
SFO is similar to Mumbai. SFO has cargo airport right across the bay at Oakland. If this airport would do wonders
they've built it in a hole dug in the middle of rocks - it'll become a lake every monsoon, but that'll at least keep planes from crashing for 4 months each year
Please do a whole video on legacy of Tata's. The new generation needs to know about them.
High speed railway system or even "bullet" train is from city centre to city centre. You do not have to be at the railway station 2 hours before the depature. Security is quicker....etc etc India needs high speed railway system as well Airlines .....one will complement the other.
Requesting a case study on ranveer sena and naxalites terror in Bihar and and unrelated communities such as sikhs , muslims , vaishyas , coming under the fire
Charlton Yashwant Sinha was financer of this feudal criminal gang.
Bahut kush hai comrade radical Gupta, episode bana strike by Samsung workers,tata factory fire for apple production, anti Hindu Tamil Nadu govt. Any relationship comrade radical Gupta
Its dose not matter how many dhruv rathee try to defame modi gov .
But india is not stoping growth by this anti india elements 👍
Dhruv rathi se kitna dare hue ho
Sir, please do one video, which indian city investing more on urban infrastructure
None. All are cities and quality of living slandered are in ruins.
Indian city corporations be like "What is urban infrastructure?" 😂
They should build three runways also make sure management is taken care well
Another 27 years before the first runway is functioning?
You won't have to wait if BJP stays in power, if Congress comes back then 27 years is not enough
So not BJP fault as they are only on power for 10 yrs.
It’s not mullah Italian govt now dude wake up. 10 yrs have seen more than 70. Go to Pakistan pls or Bangladesh
work started in 2019 only, and then covid came. Airport will start functioning by March 2025
To air port authority of India,mumbai . Sir, now only make the land ing strip longer by 500 feet to take care of the bigger aeroplanes developed in future. Thanks.
but the question is whether it is more green and efficient to have a huge number of airport and aircraft or have more fast trains. latter is much better.
Looks like Gupta ji ‘s software has been updated over time
That editor is true ( mentioned about you)
DB Patil . Next will be in line for Bharat Ratna
Ask Chaudhary Charan Singh !!!!!
Yes big change will happen to Mumbai. This was badly required. This is the best thing modi govt did to mumbai. Navi mumbai will develop fast.
1st airport juhu
2nd airport sahar
3rd airport Navi Mumbai
Juhu doesn't allow commerical airplanes to land any longer.
"Ah yes, nothing says 'progress' like naming an airport after the guy who fought tooth and nail to stop it from being built. Guess they’re hoping his legacy will take off better than his ideas did!"
Pune has a bus station for an airport..2 to 4 decades and politicians playing property games. Buy large parcels of land, announce an airport jack up land prices and make money..repeat
Any comments on climate impact of air travel vs bullet train??
India has low emissions. We can increase them 4-5 times for our fair share.
Please do a video on Wadhavan port as well
Rahul Gandhi will come to power and give free money to all. No need of airport. Only upper class and caste use airport. Adivasis need don’t need airport.
He will come to power whenever he comes, but first, rename this damn airport as Chatrapati Shri Rahul Gandhi International Airport. The existing name sounds very 70s.
You need to be extremely foolish to think that money is "free". He has no problem redistributing your own tax money back to you (with his cut ofc)
@@panzerofthelake506I think he’s sarcastic
As an adivasi, I can confirm we don't need this airport.
@@egg-h4b no devolpment needed
Name should me Mumbai - DB Patil/ TaTa/ Navi Mumbai .
Mumbai - CSIA
London-LHR
London- Gatwick
Pl name it the The Ratan Tata Airport! Thank you very much!
Shekhar ji, can you make a CTC on Indian Railways reforms, why has it slowed down after IRCTC listing publicly, why we are seeing too many train crashes these last years with automation promising to avoid these accidents
Thank you for the suggestion, Poornima. We will certainly look into it. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
A new video on Indian railways required , it needs to get a Navratna status and more autonomy
There is no easy travel connection between some parts of northern Mumbai to the New airport. How do you expect people to travel couple of hours to get the new airport.
For western line the current airport isnt shutting down, it will always have prominence...NMIA is just an added advantage and one more option that will give the overworked current airport some breathing space.
and in future western line people will take the verso-bandra sealink to BWSL to worli-sewri connector to mthl..it will be a seemless free flowing route once you take the coastal road.
@@herambpatkarRaha, what's happening to metro connectivity ?
@@sunilmohandas912 Metro 8 Gold Line connecting CSMIA to NMIA....still at approval stage... thats 10years away....probably meant to be completed at phase 3 or 4 of NMIA, 2035....yes thats how bad our holistic planning is 😅
@@herambpatkar Not true. Metro line 8 gold will not take that long to build. Once DPR stage is done and funds are alloted. I will take 3 years from their on to complete gold line construction.
@@harshalgawai746 3years 😂 plz tell which metro line got completed in 3years since inception of construction or on time at initial proposed date in MMR? all underconstruction metros are delayed and are half way opened....we cant complete the ones that got all the approvals on time and we are expecting a planning stage metro to be completed in 3years...stop dreaming and see te ground reality of how bad and slow paced all lines in Mumbai are.
Give separate names for Domestic & International Airports/Gates & rename all four as:
1. Mumbai International Airport: Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport.
2. Mumbai Domestic Airport: Balasaheb Thackeray Domestic Airport.
3. Navi-Mumbai International Airport: JRD or Ratan Tata International Airport.
4. Navi-Mumbai Domestic Airport: D.B. Patil Domestic Airport.
Everyone stays happy!
LOL. Airport is airport singular. Its not International or Domestic separate. So it can't have 2 names. Its DB Patil airport. Its your lack of knowledge that you can't appreciate the man the legend.
@harshalgawai746 I very well know who DB Patil was and what his contributions were - they were definitely not more than the TATAs. It may be one Airport, but since the entrance for Domestic and International are different, before 1999, it had two separate names Santacruz Domestic Airport and Sahar International Airport. Same naming convention can be continued of having separate names for Domestic and International. This won't confuse passengers too who are not from Mumbai or Navi-Mumbai.
@@kamleshbhandari3229 That's were you are wrong. I mean you are wrong in every sentence twice 😅. Lokenete DB Patil were a person who fought for the rights of the bhumi putra of 80 villages. Lakhs of people had to unwillingly leave their own homeland because the government made them do it. Tatas didn't fought for them. Tata made an economic revolution in india through Businesses. But the likes of BR Ambedkar, Gandhi, Mahatma Phune, DB Patil did a social revolution to uplift downtrodden. Social reformers preceded any political or economic reforms otherwise only rich people will benefit from any economic reform. Secondly it's not our right to name the airport whatever we want without consulting people who gave their land for this beautiful futuristic airport. They are human right to have a say. Tata's name is already big but DB Patil is the regional only name. People don't know him elsewhere. Secondly it seems you are not from Mumbai or Navi Mumbai or Marathi speaking. The first Airport of Mumbai is Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport - CSMIA single name. It has two terminals. T2 is domestic as well as international both. The second airport has one single entrance point for passengers from the Ulwe side. The Eastern entrance from Panvel will only be for cargo trucks. So there are not 2 entrances for passengers. DB Patil International Airport is already an official name given to the Airport. No point changing it to Balasaheb Thackeray or Tata. Tata and others can have metros or highways named after them or other airports but not this airport. Its official name is DB Patil. Don't even dare to change it otherwise we people know how to fight against Power rich people of government. 💙💙💙
Modified Bharat 💪 🇮🇳
I go moscow have 3 international Airport 🛫...nd i work Singapore changi Airport cargo warehouse every day 56cargo flight just export cargo
Incredible Orchestra, Adani airport
Please name that airport after JRD TATA , we must celebrate industrialists who are part of india story.
i hated changing terminals in Mumbai airport. i hope this will solve this issue
This will add to the confusion for many new passengers . imagine the chaos of having a connecting flight between CSMIA and NMIA 😂
direct metro link is 10years away..till then traveling between the airports will be quite slow and painful!
Mumbai Metro Line 3 is going to serve as an inter-terminal connector, so that will solve your problem.
What was the grim feeling Shekhar ji you are referring to?
If Congress was in power for the last 2 terms, shekarji will justify why this airport wasn't completed n why is not critical to finish it.😅😅😅
SEKHAR SIR , IF I FOR A SOMETIME CHOOSE THAT YOUR SAYING ABOUT INDIAN AVIATION INDUSTRY IS GROWING FASTEST IN THE WORLD IS TRUE THEN WHY NOT IN KOLKATA'S AIRPORT THAT IS NETAJI SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY AIRPORT WHY NOT IT HAS MULTIPLE AIRPORTS ?
Multiple airports are built when current one can't expand. If Kolkata in future faces similar issue it will have second airport. Its unnessessary to build 2 airports when there is no need. Airport is one of the most expensive infrastructure.
Shekhar sir, Kerala CM Pinarayi Vijayan had an international airport built at Kannur, his constituency. But nothing happened, the airport is now running at a loss and even the couple of airlines which operarated from there have ceased operations. Moral of the story - if bhangis build airports, nothing good is going to happen.
Kannur was excessively reliant on GoFirst. The loss caused to the airport was as a result of GoFirst going belly up. The slots allocated to GoFirst have been taken over by Air India Express and IndiGo.
Kerala is much different from Maharashtra. Maha is a pro business state. Mumbai is a financial city. It doesn’t depended on remittances from other countries. It depends on local and international people setting up businesses and running financial institutions.
Mr Gupta, good info and want to thank you for making video on Navi Mumbai's airport. However would like to point out that you never mentioned Modiji and Mr Devendra Fadnavis who spearheaded this effort after fiasco left by successive Congress/NCP government and got it done. You should give credit to both, Modiji, Fadnavisji and their teams.
Jai Hind ! Jai Maharashtra !
Nice topic.... Requesting a 1st Person 2nd Draft on naxalite situation, some time in future. Thank you
Too many advertisements and long videos. I would like to have short version too
Hills visible next to runway?
Not just any hill, it’s Matheran, a fragile eco sensitive area
As you said why Bullet train is required ? Please make a requirement of bullet train documentary
Lets say you live in mumbai for job which is 600 km from your home. If there is bullet train you can go home within 2 hours. You don't have to shift to Mumbai permanantly.
@@harshalgawai746Bullet train is going to have the operational speed of about 200kmph.... 280-300 is the top testing speed...operational speed are lower, plus considering slowing down for stops...600km journey will take 3-3.5hours. No daily commuter is going to spend 6-7hours in daily traveling that too with high fares.
here planes are faster, frequently flyer dont have checkin bags...LCC Airlines will have similar pricing and they will cover 600km in 1-1.5hours...even with all security its going to fast than 3.5hours of bullet...frequent flyer know how to optimize such travel.... bullet train is just a vanity project, a white elephant....thats why Europe too focussed on low cost carriers for intra continental mobility rather than bullet train.
Bullet train works only in country like Japan with high consumer class and limited narrow linear geography..there airspace becomes too crowded.
No . The bullet train is being built because of PM Modi - to make him and his friends happy . Otherwise there are so many other places which require connectivity but have filthy trains which are unsafe - but because they are poor migrants they are ignored . Shame on PM & RM ref the number of train accidents .
We should name this Airport after Ratan Tata.
Most important thing is to maintain cleaniness and top notch service. Thats all. Because India is know for two things ..bad service and nit clean. So improve on these two first.
Bathroom be full of red spit.
Lets agree this would not have been possible with a corrupt congress government. Even SG who we know his inclination cannot deny that it was BJP who made it possible and all the infra.
Rahul Pappu plan ki caste kaun Jat ki h
Shekhar wow you will find ways to give credit to congress well done godi media( Sonia)
MTNL is not important. Need a metro line.
An airport in 1997 could not be useful before the Pune express way and Atal setu to connect
Current Mumbai airport has no capacity left to grow. Without a new airport all growth of Mumbai metropolitan area will choke.
The capacity of Mumbai airport was over many years ago, we needed this airport 10-15 years ago.
Mumbai Airport was overtaken by Delhi Airport because Mumbai can't expand because of the slums around it.
For everything we do, china does 10 things in the same time frame. We seriously need to increase our velocity. Yes, we are growing at 6.7%, but that's just not enough. In the last 5 years china added 4 trillion dollars to its GDP, which is more than our entire GDP, and that's despite their recent economic crisis.
print had be negative as to why it took 27 years
How were CRZ norms bent to build this airport ? Isn't it wrong ? Besides being an environmental hazard (due to increased risk of flooding), it has endangered the sensitive ecology of the area.
Is the episode number in sequence?
Modi bhakton... This is not a central govt project.. this is a project of the state govt...
Moscow has 4 international airports
SVO, DME, VKO & ZIA
London has 6 international. Depends of city requirements
Hindu speed of development.
What has this got to do with religion?
Good video
Navi Mumbai airport: Too little and too late
It's distracting when Mr Gupta when he waves his hands while speaking.
wtf why everything after politicians or activist?? why not scientist or Industrialist like Mr Ratan Tata?
Which author?
Shekhar pls be subjective.
When Will Usa Stop Twisting Modi for GE Engine Tejas
Such a poor imagination few of us suggesting for naming airport.
Rather open a aeronautical institute in name of Sir Ratan Tata. Thousands aspiring youth will be trained.
Health and education related institutes is need of hour. Quality education from basic is must.
We need not only pilot but aeronautical engineers.
The Chinese didn't build the Chek Lap Kok airport; it was buit by the British ruled Hongkong govt .
Why do we have to name everything after politicians in India? I get it, sure, some of them have done great things, and yes, they deserve recognition. But how much is too much? There are so many other incredible Indians-scientists, engineers, teachers-who have made massive contributions to the country. Why don’t we celebrate them too? What about honoring people from other fields who have shaped the nation in meaningful ways? It’s like we’re stuck in this endless loop of political glorification!
This much infrastructure in Mumbai is enough to vote for Modi. Congress will further delay these projects
No one talks about the illegal slums that completely occupy all sides of the mumbai airport. No attempt made to move them in all these years to improve the facilities of the old airport .. vote bank appeasement
Thanks Modi 🙏
As usual SG has got it wrong. The airport board was up there in 1985. Not 1997. As a young lad we used to cycle in this region and there was the land year marked and boards stating the same. The role of Praful Patel and his cronies has not been highlighted in the years of corruption.
Sadly SG is turning into a spokesperson for the government and is trying his level best to iron out any lethargies and inadequacies of the ruling party of the day.
This airport is delayed not because of the topography but due to systemic corruption.
Very sad.