Bad Gear - Alesis SR-16 - Least S€xy Drum Machine???

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • In this episode of Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools, we are going to ignore the developments of the last 30 years and rediscover the living fossil that is the Alesis SR-16. Do we really have to make backups onto tape? Drum plugins anyone?

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  • @AudioPilz
    @AudioPilz  15 днів тому

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  • @oig40203
    @oig40203 3 роки тому +417

    In 1996 the drummer for the band I played with broke his freakin' neck and couldn't play with us for 8 months. We replaced him with the SR-16 for live shows and it worked perfectly. He programmed every song for us and we never missed a show. We never missed a beat either.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +128

      More beer left in the backstage fridge, too!

    • @gasolineandwine
      @gasolineandwine 3 роки тому +17

      Reminds me of Кино using a Yamaha drum machine instead of having an actual drummer in the band.

    • @oig40203
      @oig40203 2 роки тому +21

      @@Kolavskaya He turned out to be a better manager than drummer!

    • @pavels470
      @pavels470 2 роки тому +17

      I jamed with a drummer with a broken neck, he still played with all bolts and braces, scaffolding attached to him, had to love his spirit though.
      He broke it stage diving at a Kreator gig in Sydney Australia, 1993🙂🤟

    • @JunkBondTrader
      @JunkBondTrader 2 роки тому +24

      lol he comes back "hey guys, I'm ready to play again!"
      **awkward silence**
      "yeah.... about that... We sorta decided to keep the Alesis in the band...."
      Just totally Ringo Strarr him.

  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles 4 роки тому +217

    In the 90s I used to write entire tracks on this thing trying to emulate a real drummer. It was a huge pain in the ass, and took hours and hours and ended up sounding like a real drummer who was in an accident and had their brain replaced with a 1990s drum machine.
    I'm still buying a used one after seeing this.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +26

      I'll take this as a compliment. I produced so many lobotomized drum tracks ;)

    • @ShadowPlay1919
      @ShadowPlay1919 3 роки тому +9

      @@AudioPilz sounds perfect for industrial music

    • @ABenny-gg3hk
      @ABenny-gg3hk 3 роки тому +8

      Dead. Best comment ever

    • @somoanuevos
      @somoanuevos 3 роки тому +1

      i'm selling one in western Canada if you're still looking, i'll ship anywhere in north america

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz I am SO looking forward to this! (*bangs head repeatedly against a really pretty nice Nektar keyboard to get in the right headspace *)

  • @richardsaffle
    @richardsaffle 4 роки тому +254

    I’m a metal guy who’s been a “closet electronic” guy for a while, coming out. Totally shocked by the metal sequence.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +48

      I'll take this as a compliment ;)

    • @petertauscher316
      @petertauscher316 4 роки тому +21

      Sounds better than anything Attack Attack or Asking Alexandria or those guys ever put out 👌

    • @ThoughtsEtcEtcEtc
      @ThoughtsEtcEtcEtc 3 роки тому +1

      You’re kind is popular in America

    • @b.benjamineriksson6030
      @b.benjamineriksson6030 3 роки тому +19

      A metal guy that's a "closet electronic" guy sound like half of Norwegian Black Metal scene i the 90s.

    • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
      @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 роки тому +10

      Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Mortician used the SR16

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 4 роки тому +173

    This series should be named "Bad Gear that my kookie tunes will make you actually want to buy".
    That metal was awesome btw 😂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +23

      Oh, Mr. Ball. Always nice to have you around. THX!!!

    • @the80386
      @the80386 4 роки тому +9

      It should be renamed [ High Precision Exposé of Untalented Whiners and Blame-Shifters in the Audio Production Arena ]

    • @illford
      @illford 3 роки тому

      @@the80386 there is no such thing as bad gear in terms of sound it's just poorly designed or explained by the creators. Sane thing goes for most software, except if it's free and it bugs you every five minutes to pay for it

  • @APMTenants
    @APMTenants 2 місяці тому +11

    SR-16 has to hold the record for the longest production of an electronic instrument, and it’s still going. I would call that legendary, not bad.

  • @seanshea8596
    @seanshea8596 4 роки тому +97

    Former alesis Tech support here. If you have to slam your pads you have a common problem where all the pads transmit midi at about minus 25 of what they should. You can tell if you have presets left because those are recorded at the proper velocity and will sound louder than you can hit the pads

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +27

      Great to have an expert around! Do you have a link to a more in depth problem description?

    • @adamdamico9269
      @adamdamico9269 4 роки тому +3

      I just picked one up today for $15 and I think it has this issue. Can I fix it by opening it up and cleaning the pad contacts? What's the fix?

    • @seanshea8596
      @seanshea8596 4 роки тому +17

      @@adamdamico9269 I don't know if there is a fix. I always just triggered it with an external controller through midi which is a workaround rather than fix. Even with bad pads it will still record velocity from external Midi
      sources.

    • @cdwhiley
      @cdwhiley 3 роки тому +11

      @@AudioPilz take it apart. clean both the back of the pad and the contacts. Then there is a trick of using graphite pencil lead on the contact surfaces. I've been advised to do this on my alesis mmt8. perhaps this would be of some help to you.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +5

      @@cdwhiley I learned the "clean it and dope the contacts with graphite" trick getting old TV remote controls working after the channel-up and channel-down buttons wore out.

  • @sonicjackalopeproductions3342
    @sonicjackalopeproductions3342 4 роки тому +64

    Ok, as a New Wave guy and a huge fan of the Synthpop and Synthwave, I am not afraid to say... I like it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +7

      Great for that genres!

    • @partirparlesarmoires
      @partirparlesarmoires 3 роки тому +4

      I'm like you ! And it's also great for dark shoegaze, it's been used a lot by the great Lycia on their records.

    • @trollingisasport
      @trollingisasport 4 місяці тому

      Look up the cover that one guy did of Into the Groove with it. Convinced me to buy it right away.

  • @nephrium
    @nephrium 4 роки тому +115

    The metal drumming was unironically rad.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +20

      The SR-16 REALLY surprised me in that application. Thought it would be cheesy - but it packs quite some punch

    • @Schuli
      @Schuli 4 роки тому +2

      @Luke After a while the repeating crash sound, which got no round robin, tell you it's not real, but in the first seconds i can't tell either :D

  • @hansneervoort6167
    @hansneervoort6167 3 роки тому +94

    The fact that it still sells after all this time, speaks for itself.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely! That thing got some staying power

    • @seedmole
      @seedmole 2 роки тому +5

      I literally just bought one after spending hours researching the best option for a drum machine/module with multiple outputs, this was the most affordable option by a ridiculous margin

    • @mboocock77
      @mboocock77 2 роки тому +1

      Just bought one for 50 quid..2nd hand...not bad as I don't have a laptop

  • @slimriddim4145
    @slimriddim4145 2 роки тому +28

    I gigged one of these for many years in a duo act and for me, the hardest thing was finding realistic, cross-genre snare samples and also the amount of time it took to prog songs using on-board functionality. In the days before these things were loaded with memory card slots, I went out and bought a second one to cope with the set.
    I owe those little machines big time - we were working 6 nights a week with them.
    God bless the SR16.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +3

      Great workhorse drum machine

  • @ewarre22
    @ewarre22 3 роки тому +15

    As someone starting a solo blackened grind project, I am very excited.

  • @Marc9889
    @Marc9889 4 роки тому +76

    It may be old, but for 60 bucks, I'd be on it like fat on a mother-in-law.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +10

      It's a no brainer

    • @nintendoor1
      @nintendoor1 3 роки тому +2

      grotesque and unnecessary, but i guess i agree?

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +1

      I would never use a line like that. I've always gotten on better with my mother in law than with my mom. :P

    • @Marc9889
      @Marc9889 3 роки тому +1

      @@mrz80 You are very fortunate in that respect... And the line is courtesy of Steve Martin.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому

      @@Marc9889 Ah, ok, if it comes from one of the premier bluegrass banjo players of our generation I'm ok with it :D :D

  • @matthewlister3755
    @matthewlister3755 4 роки тому +35

    I'm a classical guitarist by trade but I like to make synthwave beats as a fun hobby. This drum machine sat in the shop I teach out of for years and years. One day I asked the manager what it was. He said, "Why, do you want a drum machine? I can cut you a deal." I said I wanted to hear it first. My initial impression was good God, this thing is some serious trash, but when I got to the kits that weren't trying too hard to sound like actual drums I was instantly intrigued. "How much?" "$50. Please get it the fuck out of the store, it's just going to sit here." I sat and watched the same VHS tutorial ripped to UA-cam. Good God what a snoozer. Once I got into MIDI functionality the thing instantly made more sense. I'm working on a beat with this thing, some synths, all controlled by a Yamaha QY10, and recorded into a four track cassette. Yes, I know, I'm just that kind of asshole. I have fun, though, and that's what matters, because this kind of musical dumbfuckery is never going to pay the bills for me anyway. My concert guitar was handmade in Spain. My electronic gear? For the most part I own hobbyist gear for hobbyist clownery. I spent about the same for a Pocket Operator Rhythm and got a lot more with the Alesis SR-16 (again, all of this is hobbyist gear for hobbyist clownery), so is this drum machine really that bad?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +8

      No, it's just not very s€xy ;)

    • @vprice509
      @vprice509 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, I think it is that bad. I don't like drum machines that sound anything like real drums. Just like I don't like Siri, Alexa et al aping a human voice. I don't want AI assistants to sound any more human than Stephen Hawking.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Рік тому

      I wouldn't say it's a bad drum machine outright, just more trouble than it's worth without external control equipment. Its samples are pretty good, though, if a bit hard to fit into most electronic genres.

    • @fishercawkey
      @fishercawkey 8 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz Now that's a piece of bad gear you must review: The Yamaha QY10! Complete with VHS-tape-shaped storage box...

  • @superlean5991
    @superlean5991 4 роки тому +9

    This is one of the best channels on synth stuff. Honestly you are hilarious and have such a good / funny take on all these pieces of gear

  • @pentexsucks43
    @pentexsucks43 2 роки тому +52

    Just got one, one of the best drum machines I've ever owned. Its perfect for industrial metal

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +4

      Agreed!

    • @PrisonBrain
      @PrisonBrain 2 роки тому +4

      Good for industrial metal you say?
      Happy to hear cause I'm looking for some kit for my group which is to play industrial metal and whatnot. Thanks

    • @stephane406
      @stephane406 2 роки тому

      @@PrisonBrain the kawai R-50e is also a good choice (got the two of them, for me the kawai is the one for industrial, just my pov).

    • @mattjbyron2010
      @mattjbyron2010 Рік тому +4

      bro sr16 is NIN drums in a plastic box. Add distortion and gated reverb to taste. Its those hard hitting, wide AF drum sounds. Your search is over. @@PrisonBrain

  • @mikemeengs5720
    @mikemeengs5720 3 роки тому +15

    A friend used this machine on his metal album that I mixed. I was very impressed by both the sound and his programming

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it fits the mix so nicely!

  • @kalenbaker7901
    @kalenbaker7901 3 роки тому +24

    Somehow, these "Bad Gear" vids just convince me to buy a piece of gear even more. Got a DX7 after watching your video (was planning on getting one anyway) and now I want this since it's cheap and sounds pretty 80s

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +6

      Cool! There should be a DX7 in every household;) SR-16 replaced my drum plugs!

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +1

      Can't swing the dead presidents for a DX7? Download DEXED. It's a freebie 6-op FM synth that, if memory serves, will digest DX7 sysex dumps.

  • @OverCoat
    @OverCoat 4 роки тому +13

    I picked one of these up at a goodwill for 20 bucks. Pairs nicely with all my other hand-me-down 90s gear!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      Total music production workhorse!

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +2

      SCORE!

  • @johnnydeformed7123
    @johnnydeformed7123 4 роки тому +15

    I've been looking at the SR16 for a while and this video clinched it. I got it about a week ago and I love it. The sequencer is actually very compatible with my brain and I'm discovering a new way of making music. The workflow is admittedly slow but it's intuitive and I'm not spending much time being frustrated that it's not working at all.

  • @TheAnthraxBiology
    @TheAnthraxBiology 3 роки тому +21

    I think the samples are actually pretty cool especially for house and post punk

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +5

      It's the ultimate Metal drum machine

  • @Scyber_Official
    @Scyber_Official 4 роки тому +6

    For a drum machine that's 30+ years old and around, $100 used it still holds up.
    Gonna get my hands on one ASAP before it becomes the next 808.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Too many on the market for it to become an 808. Great drum machine nonetheless

    • @glenesis
      @glenesis 3 роки тому +1

      There are probably about a billion of em out there by now. They've been selling it for nearly 30 years. It's the McDonalds Hamburger of drum machines: Billions and Billions Sold 😂 Mine lives on my desk.

  • @empinchen
    @empinchen 3 роки тому +14

    As a glorified metronome, this bass player really liked it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      It IS pretty s€xy for a metronome;)

    • @superslonic
      @superslonic 9 місяців тому

      I've bought a used SR-16 last week, I think it's the first version. And one of the purposes I was going to use it, was kind of an advanced metronome.
      But I was pretty surprised and kind of disappointed to find out that the internal clock of my SR-16 isn't very accurate. The BPM is a little faster than it's indicated on the screen, and the beat doesn't seem very stable.
      Maybe it's only my particular SR-16. But on the other hand it gives that "live" feeling.
      When syncing from another device with midi cable, everything's fine.

  • @CaidicusProductions
    @CaidicusProductions 4 роки тому +3

    I have fallen in love with your bad gear series. Your videos have so much character and are so enjoyable to watch. Thanks for all you do.

  • @funkyfoe12
    @funkyfoe12 4 роки тому +4

    I'm really enjoying your content! I really enjoy how you sort of redeem the "bad gear".

  • @microbug3487
    @microbug3487 3 роки тому +13

    The sequencer has one unique feature: dynamic fill-ins. At the time the machine first hit the market no one had that, and even today it is still a rare feature. This is great for jamming, and it has a footswitch, another missing feature on todays drum machines :)
    BTW: The "successor", the SR-18, also available as Akai XR-20, is much worse and could be a good candidate for your series, since its bass part is not permanently mutable, the fills are not dynamic and the sounds are more "meh" than "yeah".

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +3

      Great input, thanks!

  • @AudioPilz
    @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +65

    Don't forget to check out the "How to fake metal guitars" - tutorial
    ua-cam.com/video/ZrvPfEQUttY/v-deo.html

    • @georgegeorgio1751
      @georgegeorgio1751 4 роки тому +3

      Metal , no thanks.

    • @kenfusion
      @kenfusion 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks I will .
      I like old school heavy metal from the 70s and hair metal from the 80s 😁

    • @gon2u38
      @gon2u38 4 роки тому

      Try washing the equipment BEFORE YOU MAKE A VIDEO!!! ITS GROSS!!!!!!

    • @AndrewJohnClive
      @AndrewJohnClive 3 роки тому +1

      🤣

    • @palyndrumatix7790
      @palyndrumatix7790 3 роки тому +1

      Sinus wave + distortion and for power chords with modulated adsr ;)

  • @stevejohnson243
    @stevejohnson243 2 роки тому +9

    If you want a little more creative freedom and fun, I recently synced up my SR16 with a Drumbrute Impact. They work and sound great together. I didn’t think it was possible because the SR16 doesn’t work well with some newer gear (from my experience). But now it sounds like a have cool percussion section as opposed to just a drummer.

  • @scoreeclectic
    @scoreeclectic 4 роки тому +9

    Wonderful, I hope you will never run out of bad gears!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      Thanks. Unfortunately, it is a constant struggle. Especially during lockdown...

  • @cl9826
    @cl9826 4 роки тому +5

    This was also the drum machine used for the loop in 1979 by Smashing Pumpkins

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      I only found out after completing the episode😢

  • @jeffbakalar1535
    @jeffbakalar1535 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the on point analysis... this was my first purchase of a drum machine long ago. I liked that it was easy to use as a regular musician, I'm not patient enough for deep levels of programming. That being said- never mind the limited range of drum sounds- the sr16 can be pushed into exciting levels of expression especially if you take it off of quantize and exploit the considerable unorthodox possibilities. It's very good for odd time signatures, and the dynamic quality of the pads is worth the frustration of getting to know the limits. Ikue Mori no less used this model to do some great work for many years. A best seller for a reason...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Absolutely, it replaced most of my drum plugins

  • @PuppetXeno
    @PuppetXeno 4 роки тому +9

    I used to double the bass and snare drum sounds using Perc 1 & 2. The internal sounds of the SR16 stack wonderfully. Also, a little bit of processing goes a long way in sparking up this machine. Plus, the internal sequencer really is no rocket science, and it saves the exact moments when you press "fill" making for decent dynamics in terms of fill starts and so. I sometimes still use the sequencer to trigger (arguably much more versatile) samples in my DAW in my current recordings. Really a cool machine. But for those working exclusively in DAWs of course it's quite obsolete.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +4

      I use it with a DAW a lot. The samples just always "work"

  • @robnic52
    @robnic52 6 місяців тому +1

    The Alesis official 'How to use our SR-16 videos 1 and 2' found here on UA-cam are actually very informative and clear (seems slightly dated but stick with it). A relatively quick way to get well aquainted with a complex and still capable machine. Also lots of in-depth hints like doubling certain drums and claps at different velocities to make a more realistic effect.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the heads up!!!

  • @LondonSteveLee
    @LondonSteveLee Рік тому +3

    Bought my SR-16 a month after they came out - it's still going strong!

  • @jilloplo
    @jilloplo 4 роки тому +20

    streetcleaner by godflesh uses the sr-16 and it sounds great in their noisy industrial metal. I used it for a deathgrind project recently! i love this dumb machine

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +6

      It replaced all my drum plugs

    • @JN-qj9gf
      @JN-qj9gf 3 роки тому +1

      I've loved godflesh forever but when I looked at how much a nightmare these are to program just made me appreciate them more.

    • @ilyas_elouchihi
      @ilyas_elouchihi 3 роки тому +2

      Godflesh never fails to amaze me

    • @petebunke
      @petebunke 3 роки тому +2

      pretty sure it's an hr-16, there's an interview where jkb mentions he got it cuz you can layer samples

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 2 роки тому

      Streetcleaner was recorded and released before this drum machine existed...

  • @kingstumble
    @kingstumble 4 роки тому +51

    The SR16 is a perfectly decent drum machine if you like the sound of real drums. If you prefer electronic farts and burps then of course you won't like it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +15

      You can get quite some burps and farts out of it

    • @thetruemrstallings
      @thetruemrstallings 4 роки тому +8

      I agree with you. I've had one since 2004 and it will never leave my studio.

    • @savanaviolenta
      @savanaviolenta 4 роки тому

      @@thetruemrstallings mine too

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому +3

      I just want a kick that sounds like a *kick*, not a bowl of oatmeal set on a 2x6 and struck with a rubber mallet!

  • @VuotoPneumaNN
    @VuotoPneumaNN 4 роки тому +13

    Was hoping for a Godflesh mention, how awesome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +8

      Thanks. Godflesh 4 life!

    • @VuotoPneumaNN
      @VuotoPneumaNN 4 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Even tho i seem to recall them using an HR-16 raher than an SR. Makes very little difference, i know.

    • @Tehstroyer
      @Tehstroyer 4 роки тому

      @@VuotoPneumaNN I think they switched later? The SR-16 has no layering, which in the HR-16 was the basis of the early Godflesh sound. But I _think_ I remember Justin mentioning this one in an interview as well?

    • @VuotoPneumaNN
      @VuotoPneumaNN 4 роки тому

      @@Tehstroyer I'm not sure. I looked it up and found mention of them using the HR but none of the SR.

    • @Tehstroyer
      @Tehstroyer 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@VuotoPneumaNN
      "The HR16 blew up on our first tour of the US, and was replaced with the newer SR16."
      instagram.com/p/CBGOaS9pEMz/
      Not sure if it was used otherwise, but still.

  • @rodrigomacias
    @rodrigomacias 4 роки тому +4

    As I was listening the 80's sequence I was actually thinking "This could sound good on some metal tracks"

  • @howardanderson3061
    @howardanderson3061 4 роки тому +4

    I used to work with a bass player who used the SR-16 for backing him and myself on guitar.
    It was an alright drum machine for it's day, I never would have imagined that people would use it for Metal...Lol
    The SR-16 was a good solid drum machine (for it's time) maybe it would be fun to use it now to see what it would sound like.
    I love this channel, great stuff!

  • @jonmaddison
    @jonmaddison 4 місяці тому

    Just started researching one of these. Immediately searched YT for bad gear sr-16. Wasn't disappointed.

  • @juliusebola9389
    @juliusebola9389 4 роки тому +25

    It's great if you're looking for that early 90s Janet Jackson drum sound.

  • @johotrod66
    @johotrod66 3 роки тому +5

    The first Manic Street Preachers album is all SR16

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +1

      Didn't Billy Corgan sell his recently?

  • @DateTreeSound
    @DateTreeSound 4 роки тому +6

    the sequencer is actually kind of amazing- different quantize levels at each layer- works best with an external drum pad. also the 4 outputs mean it plays well with all the old guitar pedals in your closet- it can also be bent pretty easily which makes it great for far out downsampling. pretty bad as a primary drum machine, but great as an addition to a live rig. also the midi out means it can trigger external drum modules.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Had quite some fun with it in the Bad Gear jam ua-cam.com/video/Od2_IzmO-28/v-deo.html

    • @HereComesPopoBawa
      @HereComesPopoBawa 4 роки тому

      Yes! I did the same things with mine!

  • @matt_mkv
    @matt_mkv 2 роки тому +2

    Being a bedroom metal guitarist myself, it was my need for drums and other bandmates that got me into drum machines and synths initially. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a good portion of your viewers that are into Metal. You've worn an Opeth shirt before... waiting for a Prog Metal album from you! \m/

  • @JLeonSarmiento
    @JLeonSarmiento 3 місяці тому

    It’s 2024. This is the best episode of this show so far.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @tomasmulcahymusic
    @tomasmulcahymusic 4 роки тому +5

    "It took me an entire night of falling asleep over pre-internet tutorials to realise I can't get any music out of it" 😂

  • @ozzyc969
    @ozzyc969 4 роки тому +4

    For pub live musicians making their own backing tracks well before downloadable ones from the web, this was a godsend!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +2

      That's what it was probably built for

  • @sakurahertz
    @sakurahertz 3 роки тому +5

    These videos are worth watching just for these music demos 🔥🔥

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Happy to hear that, thanks!

    • @petero94707
      @petero94707 2 роки тому

      They are the soundtrack to the dystopian future I didn’t know I needed.

  • @Skiamakhos
    @Skiamakhos 3 роки тому +3

    I used one of these back in about 1990 when I was in a goth band with my sis & her boyfriend. We started out with the drum machine, me on bass, Nick on lead guitar, my sis "singing" - 1 problem: she was utterly tone deaf. Oh well. Eventually we got a guy called Chris to do live drums alongside the SR-16. We found the SR-16 fairly easy to use, tbh. I read up on drum machine programming & Nick & I came up with some pretty good grooves. I liked that you could get a whole song programmed in, with different stuff going on in the intro, verses, chorus, hook & end. I mean, it was the first hardware drum machine I've used & compared to the 4 track portastudio we used to create tapes it was really simple.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +2

      Having a band like that should be mandatory for all young people

  • @drewnorth3816
    @drewnorth3816 2 роки тому +4

    I used the SR-16 exclusively as a click track when recording to 2" tape. for over a decade, back in the 2000's. Never actually tried to use it as a drum machine. I kinda like the sounds you got out of it though.

  • @burntumber
    @burntumber 4 роки тому +4

    The metal segment sold me on this.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      Best. Metal. Drummer. Ever.

  • @GUSCRAWF0RD
    @GUSCRAWF0RD Рік тому +1

    For the record I’m a bluesy old ma style guitarist that likes this channel

  • @W6EL
    @W6EL 6 місяців тому +1

    Man this brought back memories. We had one of these in my Electronic Music Synth classes (y2k in high school) with Master Tracks Pro 5 at the helm. Yes that built-in sequencer is not even worth looking at. The built-in pads really make this more approachable than many devices at the time costing more money and without obvious and dare I say "labeled" pads. Too bad Tom Petty couldn't have used this on Running Down a Drain -- he used some less-worthy machine for that high hat click track in 1989... Great video as always.

  • @BubblegumOctopu
    @BubblegumOctopu 3 роки тому +5

    It definitely takes some work but this thing can get stupid heavy with the right compression and reverb!! A lot of really good snares and kicks if you're into late 80s/90s anime OSTs and jpop or citypop stuff. Unrelated, but I'm pretty sure it's used on the original vocal songs for the 4kids localization of Pokemon. Listen to the snare on that opening song and you'll never unhear it :P
    I honestly really wish more drum machines had "fill" patterns the way this one does, really useful feature the few times I've ever used it for DAWless stuff

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      It replaced all my drum plugs

  • @tomblaze2
    @tomblaze2 4 роки тому +8

    hipsters into the sr-16 + Delay add some vibey chorus guitar and we got some hot new indie pop

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +4

      Currently working on the Hipster Synth episode ;)

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 4 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz We need it asap!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      @@NathanChisholm041 c'mon I have to sleep from time to time ;)

  • @ELACEBAL
    @ELACEBAL 4 місяці тому +1

    Brutal!!!! Congratulations !!!! True metal just with samples!!!

  • @savanaviolenta
    @savanaviolenta 4 роки тому +3

    I love mine. It will never leave my studio. All instruments have their place and time to be used. You never know years after this machine may be as sought after as a real TR909, 808.i know they are cheap, but they have their place in music production.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Great drum machine but there are so many of them on the used market and still available new, so I don't think they will become as sought-after as the 808 or 909

  • @CaidicusProductions
    @CaidicusProductions 4 роки тому +4

    A great bad gear episode would be the Jupiter 80, a synth hated for taking the Jupiter name and doing something decidedly not Jupiter 8 with it.

  • @bobbymobetta
    @bobbymobetta 3 роки тому +2

    this is by far the best search for a new drummer I've ever seen

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому +3

      You only have to teach him the song once

  • @TheAmerind
    @TheAmerind 2 роки тому +2

    This video despite its title, convinced me to buy one.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Great workhorse drum machine! Happy to hear that!

  • @BFBeast666
    @BFBeast666 4 роки тому +5

    I'm a metalhead learning new skills during pandemic lockdown, like playing keyboards and how to program sequencers. I tend to like synthwave as well. So... good job on totally faking the metalcore.

  • @HorologicRannygazoo
    @HorologicRannygazoo 2 роки тому +4

    In the early 90's this was my go to for drum programming. The sounds were highly tweakable if you had the patience to figure it out. For the price it was at that point in time, it was fantastic. I used it mostly for Smooth Jazz/New Age gigs and for house music that sounded different than the standard 909. I use virtual drum machines now -- but I picked up one of these used in working condition for $40 last year for nostalgia's sake.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      That one aged much better than it should have;)

    • @SteveAstronaut
      @SteveAstronaut 2 роки тому +1

      New Age gigs??? I live in Glastonbury and we don't even have New Age gigs here! LOL x

    • @HorologicRannygazoo
      @HorologicRannygazoo 2 роки тому +1

      @@SteveAstronaut Late 80's, early 90's, Southern California. Most "New Age" music was New Age in name only, like on the Narada and Windham Hill record labels. Hotels, quiet bars and restaurants would hire New Age artists for ambience. Most gigs were just show up, play instrumentals quietly, go home. Couple years later, same gigs were called Smooth Jazz. Then we could cover Enya AND Kenny G! Yay!

  • @charlesw.4576
    @charlesw.4576 2 роки тому +1

    I bought one used 8 years ago ( I may or may not have been high) and finally ordered a replacement power chord yesterday. Im filled with anticipation. Especially now.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Nice! That drum machine does have some really functional sounds. Have fun!

  • @christophertodman
    @christophertodman 3 роки тому +1

    Man - from synthwave to metal all in the space of 6 mins blows my mind...Another fantastish review!!!

  • @jnorten
    @jnorten 4 роки тому +12

    I believe it was actually the Alesis D4 that many metal bands used. It's the same sounds, but had trigger inputs. A lot of them would play the live drums and layer the kicks and snares etc with the Alesis sounds.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +2

      Good point! It's funny that it instantly works in that context

  • @adamg.manning6088
    @adamg.manning6088 4 роки тому +6

    That synth wave was lovely, I’d not have a problem listening to that.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +5

      Thanks! Making synth wave is so much fun! I really thought about starting a synthwave band

    • @tomasmulcahymusic
      @tomasmulcahymusic 4 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz please do the vocals were awesome!

  • @paulhedley2864
    @paulhedley2864 Рік тому +1

    The fix for the lack of velocity or having to hit the pads hard, is to go into menu and increase the default velo from 99 (default) upto 127. simply put the factory default setting is medium velocity. so you have to adjust and set from settings menu. it's NOT always a case you have a dodgy unit. just for future reference.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому

      Thanks for the heads up!

    • @paulhedley2864
      @paulhedley2864 Рік тому

      The reason for this is because the samples for snare for example have a few variations. The sample is recorded light hit to heavy. And certain inflections to the sound are picked up. This is to give a natural sound to the drums. As most drum samples loud as they are are recorded studio velocity and timbre (medium hit). Full on hit which is much more dramatic sound in timbre would sound very unnatural outside of a power Ballard crescendo. The fact that the sr16:is still going strong is testimonial to fact that alesis got it right first time. Even the sr18 failed in comparison to its daddy.

  • @jonnieolivo
    @jonnieolivo 3 роки тому +2

    Bought one in 91 loved it! kept it for years until a colleague “borrowed” it in early 2000.
    Bought a new one in 06 and still use it today with my synth stuff

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Yeah, this is the piece of gear people "borrow";)

    • @jonnieolivo
      @jonnieolivo 3 роки тому

      First they’ll talk about it. Then make comparisons...”you should’ve gone with something else”....
      “Hey can I barrow your SR-16???”
      Never brings it back

  • @RayTheProducer
    @RayTheProducer 3 роки тому +6

    You are stupidly talented. I mean...just amazing.

  • @Nick-df1pv
    @Nick-df1pv Рік тому +3

    The sounds worked pretty good with a 707 kick, now I'd probably pair it with the Volca kick and an acoustic 3x13 snare.

  • @yvesturgeon9585
    @yvesturgeon9585 9 місяців тому +2

    If you're ready to dedicate a lot ( and I mean a lot ) of your time to it.... ( Don't throw away the user guide!! Believe me
    .you will need it!! ) the drum sounds are still amazing to this day...

  • @irishmusico
    @irishmusico 4 роки тому +2

    I love that drum machine. Been gigging with one on and off for 25 years. Great video.

  • @thelanavishnuorchestra
    @thelanavishnuorchestra 3 роки тому +4

    You are the Simon Whistler of music tech.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Big fan of his work!

  • @Yezu666
    @Yezu666 4 роки тому +4

    I'm legit now waiting for your gore-grind-death-core album.

  • @chrisamadeus4647
    @chrisamadeus4647 Рік тому +2

    I have had this machine since 1990, used it for live and recordings "loads of them", I can't lie, it worked for nearly any production, I still have it in my studio though not used very much now.

  • @TheRoyalGenerationiTunes
    @TheRoyalGenerationiTunes 24 дні тому

    There’s a reason why this drum machine is still around and not discontinued after decades on the market.

  • @jmcover9000
    @jmcover9000 4 роки тому +3

    These machines circuit bend very well (the older non surface-mount ones), you can end up with something like a 32 pin patchbay that mangles the digital samples (with some crashes here and there). Breaking out the pins of one of the 2 large 32 pin chips (bottom right of the main board) to external headers is how this is acheived. Or find a few nice points on the chips and put them to switches.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Already trying to find one of the old ones. Mine has replaced my drum plugs, so it's not gonna get modded;)

  • @maxcruz666
    @maxcruz666 4 роки тому +3

    I don't see what is so dated about this drum machine..if you look at any drum kit the Snare, Toms, Bass drum etc. all basically sound the same. What makes the difference is what you do with the drums in the mixer. Well this drum machine contains excellent samples of wet as well as dry drum kits, so it's up to you what your final sounds winds up being/sounding like, just like a regular drum kit. And if you record your drums separately/live not sequenced snare hat toms bass drum, unless you tell whomever listens to your track/music they will never know..that's how good this machine is.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      I use it a lot but modern drum plugins offer stuff no one has ever dreamed of back then

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber Рік тому

    I mean, it does what it sets out to do, but the sequencer really holds it back. I'd put it in the "not unusable but not worth the effort" category for electronic music use, but the "it's everywhere and you can't get away from it" category for Rock and Metal substitute drummer use.

  • @xerostar2K09
    @xerostar2K09 2 роки тому +1

    The SR16 was basically prominent on Squarepusher's Feed Me Weird Things album. It has a pretty nice sound to it, pure '90's feel.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Ah, didn't know that, thanks for posting!

  • @tomblaze2
    @tomblaze2 4 роки тому +4

    @3:35 - Hipster and into it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +2

      Damn, when will the techno clubs reopen?

  • @ryanredding1622
    @ryanredding1622 4 роки тому +4

    I wouldn't mind knowing a little more about the guitar sampling/triggering process

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +3

      Happy to hear that. There are certainly more sophisticated methods of doing that - it was more of a "proof of concept". Will try to fit in a little tutorial...

    • @ryanredding1622
      @ryanredding1622 4 роки тому +1

      I love the sound of "unsophisticated." That's awesome! Thanks!

  • @optimal4900
    @optimal4900 4 роки тому +2

    I love your Videos. Great format!!

  • @broderperdurabo
    @broderperdurabo Рік тому +1

    SR-16 as of today are whipping the ass of new modern drumkits, it's a fact!

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 4 роки тому +3

    I've got one I've had for years. I used to use it to make rave music back in the day. It's largely all I could afford then, although I did blend it with a Boss DR550. It was OK ish. Always found the drums really flat and needed some treatment to get the best out of it. Is it dated? Most definitely. While I still have it, I haven't considered using it on anything for years.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      The percussion sounds are really nice for techno and the standard drumkits sit really well in the mix. I like it

    • @crunchyfrog555
      @crunchyfrog555 4 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Oh I do too for those specific things. If you're doing those sort of tunes (as I said, I used it a lot for rave music back in the day) it does quite well indeed.
      These days, I just find it quite dated for anything else. I predominantly use an Elektron Model Samples partly just for ease of use (as it's a gem to play on the fly) and because it has the fluidity of being sample based.
      Even dated stuff still has it's place.

  • @zero-order-hold5704
    @zero-order-hold5704 4 роки тому +4

    I came to this channel fully expecting to see the SR16 couldn't believe it was still being sold new after all this time

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it's quite a living fossil

  • @djelbert23
    @djelbert23 2 роки тому +2

    Mine arrived today, Nostagial for days! Will compliment my set-up.

  • @CourtneyNielsen
    @CourtneyNielsen Рік тому

    I bought one for my kid. At age 6, a durable, simple, $150 device is perfect to complement her little setup of a digital piano and a boutique juno.

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch 4 роки тому +10

    Oh my god, this brings back bad memories. I tried to record with this garbage machine decades ago, and I do sensitive singer-songwriter stuff.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +2

      There are probably better options for that. I feel you

    • @megatron804
      @megatron804 4 роки тому +3

      perhaps its not the "garbage" machine but the turd trying to record garbage sensitive singer-songwriter stuff, hmmm makes one wonder

    • @JohannesLabusch
      @JohannesLabusch 4 роки тому +3

      @@megatron804
      "Makes one wonder" of course being one of those phrases that make it abundantly easy to identify an illiterate douche, who hasn't quite mastered the fine art of trolling, but is shitfaced enough to give it a shot. Well done, honey.

    • @megatron804
      @megatron804 4 роки тому +3

      @@JohannesLabusch lol worst comeback ever your just making worse for yourself, dont put things down you have no idea how to use

  • @Beatlesfan151
    @Beatlesfan151 4 роки тому +4

    I might be a hipster cuz that was dope...who am I kidding I’m totally a hipster 🙃

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому

      Aren't we all in a way?

  • @indisguiseFUCK
    @indisguiseFUCK 4 роки тому +2

    Actually works pretty well for that Synthwave stuff

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      It totally blew my mind

  • @Bj5m17h
    @Bj5m17h Рік тому +2

    the power of 80s snare and toms is undeniable.

  • @SteveIrwinDOA
    @SteveIrwinDOA 4 роки тому +4

    All gear may be useful if you use it with a critical approach. The SR16 has all you need. I've owned one since 2000 and I don't see any reason to have anything else. Just modulate it if the sounds seem to need an update or a tweak. There are plenty of sounds in that machine to build upon. The price is right and we can all benefit from a more relaxed approach to "the right gear." Use your brain and figure out how to make shit work.

  • @randykalish7558
    @randykalish7558 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm expecting my 16 in the mail today, so after seeing this I'm totaly shaken 😱 with laughter. I just know it'll be as difficult as I make it, after I'm broke in.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, it can be quite a challenge!!!

  • @inwex8350
    @inwex8350 3 роки тому +2

    I still have this box. I remember it was a high school graduation gift. Used to drive it through a Crate amp and distort those kicks. Think I was just trying to be Trent Reznor.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 роки тому

      Can it NIN? I'd say yes!

  • @SpirosPagiatakis
    @SpirosPagiatakis 4 роки тому +1

    So happy to see this video, i have a 1992 SR-16 and i use it for every single track on our new record. Little external processing goes a long way...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      It sits very well in the mix

  • @zumazmusic
    @zumazmusic Рік тому +1

    Great video. I have fond memories of crafting songs on my old Alesis SR-16. If it hadn't died, I'd still be using it.

  • @DanielHuman1996
    @DanielHuman1996 4 роки тому +2

    I'd love a Bad Gear review of the Alesis Quadrasynth (QS4 module or QS5 keyboard). Everyone complains about the non-resonant filter and lack of internal sequencer, but includes the Quadraverb chip for effects (shoegazing reverb, flange, etc.), and DM Pro chip for drum mode. It has 16 midi channels and works well with a DAW! The internal samples are super 80s.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the input!

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 3 роки тому

      Great, now I've got GearLust™ for Yet Another 80s Boatanchor Synth! :D
      [edit] Just a couple weeks after I wrote this I found a QS8.1 (new piano samples, more sounds, 88 weighted keys) on CL for $50. Turned out to be broken (easy fix - jumper from the power supply board to the main board had come unplugged :D ) . It's everything any musician coming of age in the early 80s would ever want or need. :D

  • @ebrown3k
    @ebrown3k 2 роки тому +1

    Just ran across your video after pulling my SR-16 out. I bought it new in 1995 and basically never used it because I could never get the hang of programming it and I think I had the low volume pad issue out of the box. But I discovered last night that using one of the midi lanes on my Circuit Tracks is a fantastic way to program this unit. Just write a 2 bar pattern on Tracks. Switch the SR-16 to compose mode and hit play on the Tracks. Boom it's programmed. You can over dub so you can program one instrument at a time, or do all at once, just make sure to switch back to perform mode before you start auditioning new parts to the pattern. It makes the SR-16 infinitely more useable. I am sure other sequencers will do the same, but I found the Tracks a perfect companion and I'm excited to finally use my 27 year old gear.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Great with an external sequencer!!!

  • @Ferrichrome
    @Ferrichrome 4 роки тому +1

    Damn dude I can't believe how much effort you put into these,I've been binging them all!