this is a very well structured tutorial. comparing this to Boris FX's Primatte Tutorial (or any of their other tutorial for that matter), there's a night & day difference.
06:02 This video should should have mentioned this key point up front. While in Premiere Pro, YOU MUST HAVE THE PRIMATTE EFFECT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE EFFECT WINDOW IN ORDER FOR ANY OF THE MATTE BACKGROUND AND FOREGROUND OR MATTE CORRECTION TOOLS TO WORK. Otherwise you can click all day long and no pixels will be selected. Selecting the foreground/background or matte correction tools alone will not work, nor will selecting those tools highlight the Primatte effect in the Premiere Pro effect window. You must manually select and highlight the Primatte effect in the effect window in order for any of the tools to work.
@@EpicMathTime Layer Controls are disabled (After Effects only) Head into the View menu of After Effects and select Show Layer Controls, then try once more. This helped me !
What is the difference between 'Edge Replacement' and 'Spill Killer'? What is the proper usage between Edge Replacement and Spill Killer in a certain situation?
Do I need to press anything on keyboard to sample while cleaning BG/FG? Simply clicking and dragging mouse on footage does nothing to me, while in the video in time 2:22 it draws a sampling line.
Can Primatte be used effectively in Premiere on an adjustment layer over the footage like Ultra key can? Or does it need to be applied directly on the footage? Also, although you mention it is GPU accelerated, I did notice a red line in the timeline, and no GPU icon in the effects panel. Can you elaborate?
copy the footage ? :) for keying is way more better and faster as the build in keyer off after effects . the handling is creazy compare to build in keyer
If I have green eyes (lenses) how to mask them out from effect? With keylight I can do it with Inside mask and chose any mask of my layer. Where is this function in Primatte? Is there a way to do it without duplicate main layer?
In After Effects, you can mask effects so that they don't apply in certain areas. In your timeline twirl open your Primatte effect and, at the bottom, you will see compositing options, you can choose a mask there. You can do it with ANY effect now; it doesn't need to be integrated into the effect anymore. That feature in Keylight was created before AE had that functionality built in natively.
Okay, so I've got a rather difficult shot. It's a miniature forest with a lot of thin branches that catch the spill. It's been a nightmare in After Effects Keylight. It's moving camera shot so I'm dealing with chatter and disappearing parts. If I buy this product will I be able to solve these problems?
@@raymundtan3261 I did end up getting this plugin and the answer to my question is a complicated one. Is this a good advanced tool to help with difficult keys? Yes. Is it going to simplify the process of complex green screen shots? HELL to the NO. I am glad I got it but if you don't have the money to throw at this plugin, you should be aware that it's no substitute for, nor will it save you from the required time and effort it takes to pull great keyed shots. In fact, when I applied it to my shots it came with its own brand new set of complications. However, I would recommend it to people who can afford it and have dedicated themselves to bettering their green screen game. I even managed to create some solid shots using a combination of layers segmented by masks, with Primatte used on some and Keylight used on others. I may create a tutorial about that, in the future. So, overall, yes, this is a good product but it's no substitute for putting in the work. Give them time, though. I believe this is yet another issue that's going to be solved by automation soon enough.
@@christophermoonlightproduction I also have this at work and use this "occassionaly" because as you have mentioned it also introduced a new set of problems. I see it as a newbie friendly tool for green screen, but for those complex green screen shots I agree with you that it does not take away the proccess of meticulously adjusting a bunch of settings. Hence I still stick to my old ways but I do hope they still improve this
I don't often need to composite, but I am working on a project that needs it. I have followed the tut and I'm using Ae 14.0.4, but I am getting a fizzing effect all along one edge. Are there any tips to try and solve? I shot the green screen sequence using the Mavis app on an iPhone 7+ at 25fps/ 1080 x 1020.
I'd like an actual tutorial that actually goes through HOW TO USE THE TOOLS rather than "you can". I know I can I bought it! But I'm trying to select the green and my footage is being dragged as I sample the green. Rather than you can, how about here's how to. Just a thought.
when i apply supercomp on green screen footage and video ,i get chroma screen in RG COMP panel even i had already applied primatte key and already done the keying... HELP if possible
Maybe pre-comp the keyed footage before throwing them to SuperComp? I always pre-comp everything into ready, standalone elements before throwing them to SuperComp and that seems to work the best.
Sorry for the trouble. Please contact our support team so we can figure out what's not working for you. It has worked on countless broadcast and film productions, so hopefully we can solve your issue.
@@cilginflix in our experience, they both work great. Sometimes one is better for a shot and sometimes the other is. When keying, it's great to have multiple tools in your toolbox.
@@cilginflix Sometimes, Primatte can go a bit wonky. Usually, deleting the effect and re-applying it can make it work. If not, please contact our support team!
this is a very well structured tutorial. comparing this to Boris FX's Primatte Tutorial (or any of their other tutorial for that matter), there's a night & day difference.
I womder what AI would done combined with red-GIANTS powerful algos !
06:02 This video should should have mentioned this key point up front. While in Premiere Pro, YOU MUST HAVE THE PRIMATTE EFFECT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE EFFECT WINDOW IN ORDER FOR ANY OF THE MATTE BACKGROUND AND FOREGROUND OR MATTE CORRECTION TOOLS TO WORK. Otherwise you can click all day long and no pixels will be selected. Selecting the foreground/background or matte correction tools alone will not work, nor will selecting those tools highlight the Primatte effect in the Premiere Pro effect window. You must manually select and highlight the Primatte effect in the effect window in order for any of the tools to work.
Thank you for this!
In after effects, I can't get any of the tools to work no matter what.
@@EpicMathTime Layer Controls are disabled (After Effects only)
Head into the View menu of After Effects and select Show Layer Controls, then try once more.
This helped me !
@@gemzamala God bless you, REALLY. I was started to get mad. How did you find out this fix?
OMG thank you so much! how they didn't mention that?!
What is the difference between 'Edge Replacement' and 'Spill Killer'? What is the proper usage between Edge Replacement and Spill Killer in a certain situation?
Core matte really worked for a low quality green screen
Amazing
amazing
thanx
So great! Thank you. Could you give advise the for best consumer/semi pro camera for chroma keying?
Literally any camera will Do. Just use what you got
Do I need to press anything on keyboard to sample while cleaning BG/FG? Simply clicking and dragging mouse on footage does nothing to me, while in the video in time 2:22 it draws a sampling line.
same
These guys should make an ai difference matte
Dooooppeeee!!!!
Can Primatte be used effectively in Premiere on an adjustment layer over the footage like Ultra key can? Or does it need to be applied directly on the footage?
Also, although you mention it is GPU accelerated, I did notice a red line in the timeline, and no GPU icon in the effects panel. Can you elaborate?
copy the footage ? :) for keying is way more better and faster as the build in keyer off after effects . the handling is creazy compare to build in keyer
cant get it to work. can only use auto define key. No other controls work?
If I have green eyes (lenses) how to mask them out from effect? With keylight I can do it with Inside mask and chose any mask of my layer. Where is this function in Primatte? Is there a way to do it without duplicate main layer?
In After Effects, you can mask effects so that they don't apply in certain areas. In your timeline twirl open your Primatte effect and, at the bottom, you will see compositing options, you can choose a mask there.
You can do it with ANY effect now; it doesn't need to be integrated into the effect anymore. That feature in Keylight was created before AE had that functionality built in natively.
Okay, so I've got a rather difficult shot. It's a miniature forest with a lot of thin branches that catch the spill. It's been a nightmare in After Effects Keylight. It's moving camera shot so I'm dealing with chatter and disappearing parts. If I buy this product will I be able to solve these problems?
Sadly all demos have this easy chroma shots.
@@raymundtan3261 I did end up getting this plugin and the answer to my question is a complicated one. Is this a good advanced tool to help with difficult keys? Yes. Is it going to simplify the process of complex green screen shots? HELL to the NO. I am glad I got it but if you don't have the money to throw at this plugin, you should be aware that it's no substitute for, nor will it save you from the required time and effort it takes to pull great keyed shots. In fact, when I applied it to my shots it came with its own brand new set of complications. However, I would recommend it to people who can afford it and have dedicated themselves to bettering their green screen game. I even managed to create some solid shots using a combination of layers segmented by masks, with Primatte used on some and Keylight used on others. I may create a tutorial about that, in the future. So, overall, yes, this is a good product but it's no substitute for putting in the work. Give them time, though. I believe this is yet another issue that's going to be solved by automation soon enough.
@@christophermoonlightproduction I also have this at work and use this "occassionaly" because as you have mentioned it also introduced a new set of problems. I see it as a newbie friendly tool for green screen, but for those complex green screen shots I agree with you that it does not take away the proccess of meticulously adjusting a bunch of settings. Hence I still stick to my old ways but I do hope they still improve this
@@raymundtan3261 There is wisdom in you words.
Am I right that primatte is good for core matte so you should use keylight for edge purposes?
We always recommend you use whatever tool works best for you. We've found Primatte quite useful in many situations.
I need it
I don't often need to composite, but I am working on a project that needs it. I have followed the tut and I'm using Ae 14.0.4, but I am getting a fizzing effect all along one edge. Are there any tips to try and solve? I shot the green screen sequence using the Mavis app on an iPhone 7+ at 25fps/ 1080 x 1020.
Rubicon Never too Kate for me😊 Many thanks for that. Very helpful!
I'd like an actual tutorial that actually goes through HOW TO USE THE TOOLS rather than "you can". I know I can I bought it! But I'm trying to select the green and my footage is being dragged as I sample the green. Rather than you can, how about here's how to. Just a thought.
Sorry for the confusion. You have to make sure you have the effect selected in the effect control panel.
when i apply supercomp on green screen footage and video ,i get chroma screen in RG COMP panel even i had already applied primatte key and already done the keying...
HELP if possible
Maybe pre-comp the keyed footage before throwing them to SuperComp? I always pre-comp everything into ready, standalone elements before throwing them to SuperComp and that seems to work the best.
Video moves even if the name is selected. So can't do anything!
Simply doesn't work....
Sorry for the trouble. Please contact our support team so we can figure out what's not working for you. It has worked on countless broadcast and film productions, so hopefully we can solve your issue.
@@cilginflix in our experience, they both work great. Sometimes one is better for a shot and sometimes the other is. When keying, it's great to have multiple tools in your toolbox.
@@MaxonRedgiant i also did tryed that plugin, it is just making the footage horrable...
@@cilginflix Sometimes, Primatte can go a bit wonky. Usually, deleting the effect and re-applying it can make it work. If not, please contact our support team!
i cant set a point without moving the image. very frustrating.
Hai, dear which screen record uesd this video :) :) :)