Excellent and concise review! You covered a lot of ground and explained really well - especially appreciate the mention of anamorphic compatibility and features.
Nice video! In the list of gear I don't see the link to that handle? There is the SSD drive, but can you please add the link to the handle to mount it? Thanks
Couple of points here: "All-intra" is DEFINITELY higher quality than interframe-compressed (GOP-based) codecs, especially when the image is changing a lot from frame to frame (for example, shots of the ocean, leaves fluttering in the wind, active crowds, flashing lights, and so forth). Also, when editing GOP-based material, you must recompress it upon rendering even if you're doing cuts only; that means quality loss. About raw: ProRes Raw is "true" raw, whereas BlackMagic "raw" is not. BlackMagic admits this in their own documentation. BMD de-Bayers the data to work around Red's disgraceful patent on compressed raw (Red ripped off JPEG2000, also well-documented), which means with BlackMagic "raw" you can't change white balance with the flexibility of real raw. It may be a good codec, but it is not raw. A major question about these cameras is: How good or bad is the rolling shutter? This metric is more important than some people realize. It's not about "action" or "whip pans;" it's even more about any up-and-down movement of the camera, such as when walking hand-held or using a car mount. That's when the "jello" effect ruins shots. Meanwhile, that SSD handle is pretty cool! Oh yeah, another must-have for a camera: FULL-SIZED HDMI. Never tolerate micro-HDMI; it is insulting junk that WILL fail almost immediately. Another important feature this camera has: 4K crop mode. You need this if you want normal "cinematic" depth of field and field of view; those come from Super-35-sized images, AKA APS-C. "Full-frame" is the STILL-image standard, not the motion-picture standard.
@@andersistbesser I'm sure Resolve provides a color-balance-shifting function for it that may be quite useful, but according to the disclosures on the BMD site, their "raw" is deBayered to some extent. I encourage you to search on "blackmagic raw is debayered."
@@chrislee6650 Nobody said that all-I didn't require more data. Not sure who the rest of your tutorial was aimed at, but it serves to support my point about content with lots of motion suffering from interframe compression. On a side note, intraframe compression isn't necessarily JPEG. Redcode, for example, uses wavelet compression (but then again, Red did rip off JPEG2000... still from JPEG if you want to get picky).
Hey guys! Great video once again! Kinda torn between the 2 cameras S5ii and S5iix - is it easier to live stream with the S5iix? Or do you think an s5ii would suffice? Mostly using the camera for music videos/green screen stuff and live streaming. And we're coming from a GH6...
The Lumix S5ii would suffice. One of the major differences is external recording. The Lumix S5iix will be able to record 10-Bit via USB. Reach out to one of our video experts, they will be able to help you pick out the camera that will best fits your production. Email sales@bhphoto.com
how fast are you shooting that you need more than 200MB/s? because those cards are super cheap and if you're doing high burst rate photography why are you looking at an S5? The only appeal I can see is transfer speeds to your computer? @@maxvain
It completely depends on your needs and preferences; the color science is different between the two, as are the lens mounts. Feel free to reach out to sales@bhphoto.com if you'd like an expert opinion!
Thanks for this. Have a few S5 11 and wondering if the upgrade is worth it. Does your monitor display all functions on the camera LCD screen? I have a ninja for one of my Lumix s511 and it won't display things like focus peaking, audio levels etc. from the LCD screen. B&H told me the ninja monitors were not compatible in this way with the Lumix s5 11 ??
Great video. Thank you very much. I have a few questions: Panasonic Lumix S5IIX vs. S5II both have the same sensor? both have the same video quality? i just got a 5II (no X) no 6K auto focus also 180 150 FPS no auto focus at (X) also same? I would be grateful for your answers.
Both the Lumix S5IIX and the S5II has the same sensor, 35.6 x 23.8 mm (Full-Frame) CMOS. Both cameras also records 6K30p 4:2:0 10-Bit video. The main differences between the two is the the Lumix S5IIX has more external recording modes and can record ProRes internally, the Lumix S5II can not.
As straight photography cameras go they're on par with any other brand sporting a Sony sensor. One thing to note for the Fuji people watching, once Lumix pull out a new camera, forget about getting new features via firmware updates for your current machine. They can't be bothered.
The age-old question that will never be clearly defined... I think a lot of people think "cinematic" means shallow depth of field with moody lighting (in a nutshell). Some people define "cinematic" as the type of camera movements featured. IMO.... "cinematic" is defined as whatever features and elements that help best communicate a clear visual story.
This brings up another point: "Full-frame" refers to 35mm STILL photos, not motion pictures. True "cinema" characteristcs for the modern history of film means Super35-sized images, AKA APS-C. Motion picture film runs VERTICALLY through the camera, so the images go across the film and not along it; this makes them smaller than still images, with greater depth of field. You want that greater depth of field, because people and cameras in movies are, well, MOVING... you can always tell when a noob has shot video on a full-frame camera because of all the out-of-focus imagery. That's why you should look for a camera that can shoot 4K Super-35-sized images, even if it has a full-frame sensor. This Panasonic, for example.
Looking for a camera setup for professional vertical live streaming in night clubs and festivals (6-8 cams). Could the Panasonic Lumix S5 IIX be it and what multi-camera switcher or video production software do you recommend? Blackmagic Design ATEM Mini Extreme ISO?
Reach out to one of our pro video experts. They will be able to help you build the right live streaming set-up that best suits your needs. Email sales@bhphoto.com
Want more on the Panasonic LUMIX S5 II? Check out our Hands-on Review: ua-cam.com/video/A2xqSl0fPYE/v-deo.html
Excellent and concise review! You covered a lot of ground and explained really well - especially appreciate the mention of anamorphic compatibility and features.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
look forward to what the S5 mk II/X can do in terms of video. Very informative.
Nice video! In the list of gear I don't see the link to that handle? There is the SSD drive, but can you please add the link to the handle to mount it? Thanks
We got you. It's the Kondor Blue PRO-BLADE SSD Recording Handle: bhpho.to/3Mg3XyW
Definitely an exciting camera but also, props on that ssd handle! Game changer! Too cool!
What microphone was used here? Thank!
Couple of points here: "All-intra" is DEFINITELY higher quality than interframe-compressed (GOP-based) codecs, especially when the image is changing a lot from frame to frame (for example, shots of the ocean, leaves fluttering in the wind, active crowds, flashing lights, and so forth). Also, when editing GOP-based material, you must recompress it upon rendering even if you're doing cuts only; that means quality loss.
About raw: ProRes Raw is "true" raw, whereas BlackMagic "raw" is not. BlackMagic admits this in their own documentation. BMD de-Bayers the data to work around Red's disgraceful patent on compressed raw (Red ripped off JPEG2000, also well-documented), which means with BlackMagic "raw" you can't change white balance with the flexibility of real raw. It may be a good codec, but it is not raw.
A major question about these cameras is: How good or bad is the rolling shutter? This metric is more important than some people realize. It's not about "action" or "whip pans;" it's even more about any up-and-down movement of the camera, such as when walking hand-held or using a car mount. That's when the "jello" effect ruins shots.
Meanwhile, that SSD handle is pretty cool! Oh yeah, another must-have for a camera: FULL-SIZED HDMI. Never tolerate micro-HDMI; it is insulting junk that WILL fail almost immediately.
Another important feature this camera has: 4K crop mode. You need this if you want normal "cinematic" depth of field and field of view; those come from Super-35-sized images, AKA APS-C. "Full-frame" is the STILL-image standard, not the motion-picture standard.
You CAN change white balance with bm raw just like with any other raw format
@@andersistbesser I'm sure Resolve provides a color-balance-shifting function for it that may be quite useful, but according to the disclosures on the BMD site, their "raw" is deBayered to some extent. I encourage you to search on "blackmagic raw is debayered."
@@chrislee6650 Nobody said that all-I didn't require more data. Not sure who the rest of your tutorial was aimed at, but it serves to support my point about content with lots of motion suffering from interframe compression.
On a side note, intraframe compression isn't necessarily JPEG. Redcode, for example, uses wavelet compression (but then again, Red did rip off JPEG2000... still from JPEG if you want to get picky).
Among all the reviews, you have the best option, the camera is just a gift for operators,the price and quality are on top
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Do you have a battery grip for this model ?
At this time there is not a battery grip for this model yet.
we need 120fps in the Lumix s5ii & s5iix like gh6
Hey guys! Great video once again! Kinda torn between the 2 cameras S5ii and S5iix - is it easier to live stream with the S5iix? Or do you think an s5ii would suffice? Mostly using the camera for music videos/green screen stuff and live streaming. And we're coming from a GH6...
The Lumix S5ii would suffice. One of the major differences is external recording. The Lumix S5iix will be able to record 10-Bit via USB. Reach out to one of our video experts, they will be able to help you pick out the camera that will best fits your production. Email sales@bhphoto.com
I'm surprised this doesn't work with standard photo apps for tethered shooting..?
Noob question: Can Still images be written directly to the SSD drive as well?
why would you ever want to do this though?
Have you seen the cost of fast cards recently?
how fast are you shooting that you need more than 200MB/s? because those cards are super cheap and if you're doing high burst rate photography why are you looking at an S5? The only appeal I can see is transfer speeds to your computer?
@@maxvain
I hope Panasonic can be like Fuji with free firmware update.
I want to make a short film which one u choose between Sony fx3 and lumix s5iix?
It completely depends on your needs and preferences; the color science is different between the two, as are the lens mounts. Feel free to reach out to sales@bhphoto.com if you'd like an expert opinion!
Thanks for this. Have a few S5 11 and wondering if the upgrade is worth it. Does your monitor display all functions on the camera LCD screen? I have a ninja for one of my Lumix s511 and it won't display things like focus peaking, audio levels etc. from the LCD screen. B&H told me the ninja monitors were not compatible in this way with the Lumix s5 11 ??
Great video. Thank you very much. I have a few questions: Panasonic Lumix S5IIX vs. S5II both have the same sensor? both have the same video quality? i just got a 5II (no X) no 6K auto focus also 180 150 FPS no auto focus at (X) also same? I would be grateful for your answers.
Both the Lumix S5IIX and the S5II has the same sensor, 35.6 x 23.8 mm (Full-Frame) CMOS. Both cameras also records 6K30p 4:2:0 10-Bit video. The main differences between the two is the the Lumix S5IIX has more external recording modes and can record ProRes internally, the Lumix S5II can not.
As straight photography cameras go they're on par with any other brand sporting a Sony sensor. One thing to note for the Fuji people watching, once Lumix pull out a new camera, forget about getting new features via firmware updates for your current machine. They can't be bothered.
So basically if I’m just a photography guy paying the extra money for the S5IIX would be a wasn’t of 200ish extra dollars correct?
What is “cinematic video”?
The age-old question that will never be clearly defined... I think a lot of people think "cinematic" means shallow depth of field with moody lighting (in a nutshell). Some people define "cinematic" as the type of camera movements featured. IMO.... "cinematic" is defined as whatever features and elements that help best communicate a clear visual story.
This brings up another point: "Full-frame" refers to 35mm STILL photos, not motion pictures. True "cinema" characteristcs for the modern history of film means Super35-sized images, AKA APS-C. Motion picture film runs VERTICALLY through the camera, so the images go across the film and not along it; this makes them smaller than still images, with greater depth of field. You want that greater depth of field, because people and cameras in movies are, well, MOVING... you can always tell when a noob has shot video on a full-frame camera because of all the out-of-focus imagery. That's why you should look for a camera that can shoot 4K Super-35-sized images, even if it has a full-frame sensor. This Panasonic, for example.
Cinematic video is when you use a lot of unnecessary RGB lights. 😂
@@najeefilms 😂😂😂😂
Looking for a camera setup for professional vertical live streaming in night clubs and festivals (6-8 cams). Could the Panasonic Lumix S5 IIX be it and what multi-camera switcher or video production software do you recommend? Blackmagic Design ATEM Mini Extreme ISO?
Reach out to one of our pro video experts. They will be able to help you build the right live streaming set-up that best suits your needs. Email sales@bhphoto.com
All intra looks good
Would you prefer to use Ninja V or the Lumix S5 IIX to capture the Prores or Braw? what's the Pros vs. Cons for each option?
Very cool, so glad I pre-ordered this through B&H. Now, where can I get that B&H coffee mug?
If it'd be able to record BRaw to the SSD, I'd get it in an instance!
Nice & Thanks :)
Thanks for watching!
2:54 You lost me at “SSD hard drive”
and nikon Z8 records internal 8k from box
🙌
Nothing remotely "cinematic" here.
Nice camera though.