Ep 7 - If I can cut fret slots by HAND, so can YOU! | Building a Guitar from 42,000 Year Old Wood!

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  • @anonymousbotch7370
    @anonymousbotch7370 Рік тому +22

    inlay by hand and in line with one of the veneers, Ben, you know we are here to make your life more challenging, but we know how you love a challenge and working with hand tools😁

  • @dweez15
    @dweez15 Рік тому +11

    it would be cool to see you hand inlay the logo in line with the veneer, i think it would be a nice clean look... loving how this guitar is coming together

  • @chriscarmichael8579
    @chriscarmichael8579 Рік тому

    "That's what the wood wanted"
    Best thing I've heard on this channel

  • @dennisbinkhorst2039
    @dennisbinkhorst2039 Рік тому +5

    The inlay should be in between two veneer lines. I think the logo would otherwise be either too close to or too far from the bottom edge of the headstock.

  • @archloy
    @archloy Рік тому

    Inlays by hands are always entertaining and good for knowledge :)

  • @DanPeacock
    @DanPeacock Рік тому

    "A good sharp blade solves many problems." As an amateur swordsman, I couldn't agree more. :)

  • @Porl1024
    @Porl1024 Рік тому +5

    I’d love to see the logo in line with the lower veneer, and yes, by hand Ben. It’s great to watch these sort of builds. I love Kauri wood, and I might even have some ancient Kauri gum kicking around on a dusty shelf somewhere. That guitar will be absolutely gorgeous when it’s finished :)

  • @jakegarber2758
    @jakegarber2758 Рік тому

    Loved this video! I was doing this exact process last week inlaying mahogany dots into an ebony fretboard. I wish I had seen your tip about a good center point bit before I started, it would have saved me a decent amount of dust and glue filling and redrilling!

  • @ianthomson9363
    @ianthomson9363 Рік тому

    Such beautiful grain! Equalled only by the sapele fretboard of The Complication- still my favourite.
    If I had followed my teenage dream of becoming a luthier, I would definitely want the fret position ruler and the depth stop saw. Crimson does make some very useful tools! The fret cutting jig would be a luxury item- as you said, it's not difficult to cut the slots by hand.

  • @StephenTurner1
    @StephenTurner1 Рік тому

    Definitely want to see the inlay done by hand, most because I want to see how you actually do it by hand! What tools and techniques get used… suspect in line with the veneers would look good, but leave that up to you!

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 Рік тому

    Ben. One more sweet Video. Crimson logo should be on a angle 📐 across the Head stock parallel as you Play the Guitar 🎸

  • @martincampbell1990
    @martincampbell1990 Рік тому

    I think you should inlay by hand, of course. But just 2mm above the veneer line so it is underlined. If it was any other colour I would go on the line, but I think it will pull the eye away from the logo and down the lines. I don't know if that makes any sense. Loving this build though, the grain on the fretboard is insane!

  • @billsguitargarage
    @billsguitargarage Рік тому

    Logo on the line for sure!

  • @Konosh
    @Konosh Рік тому

    I would like to see it done all by hand. And the idea of it appearing from the veneer line sounds intriguing. I know the jazz version has a dot inlay but you could have done the jaguar version with soap bars inlayed.

  • @Kevin-nr9lj
    @Kevin-nr9lj Рік тому

    in line with one of the veneer lines would look very cool

  • @gpurkeljc
    @gpurkeljc Рік тому

    I see a new Crimson Guitars video, I hit like and then I watch.

  • @lucemiserlohn
    @lucemiserlohn Рік тому

    You're going to do it by hand anyway, but using _just_ the Leatherman would be nice for a change.
    Also, in line. Aye, going to make some sawdust now!

  • @omrinygate1356
    @omrinygate1356 Рік тому +2

    Small suggestion when you make small fiddly inlays- you can laminate to the back of the wood a piece of carbon fiber, and then cut it. The carbon fiber will give the wood more structural integrity, so you can cut it thinner

  • @Rsama60
    @Rsama60 Рік тому

    In line with the veneer and by hand of course.

  • @maureenwhitford8396
    @maureenwhitford8396 Рік тому +1

    Set the Crimson Logo between the veneer lines, setting on the line looks like a mistake.

  • @lordimpaler3899
    @lordimpaler3899 Рік тому +2

    Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression that wood is super light and resonant. Im personally dying to hear the finished instrument

  • @deeess6027
    @deeess6027 Рік тому

    15:05 i refuse to believe dogs danglies is a real expression sir 🤣 but as for the headstock i would put the “neck” portion of it dead center between two veneers because I feel the logo will be less visible with just the “body” and “headstock” portion sticking out of the veneer line. That would NOT be the dogs danglies or the pooches pouch or the bulldogs bell-end or whatever other expression you have in this mythical alternate timeline known as the UK 😂

  • @vanshankguitars
    @vanshankguitars Рік тому

    If that was Zombie by The Cranberries, I would have paused recording until the end of the song...

  • @Birkguitars
    @Birkguitars Рік тому +5

    The logo should definitely be between the lamination lines. It gets lost if it aligns with the veneer. And definitely hand tools. No short cuts or easy options on this one. Mwaahaahaahaaa!

  • @FeuerToifel
    @FeuerToifel Рік тому +2

    i really like the contrast with the black inlay dots. not only on this particular neck but also in comparison to the usual shiny pearl inlays.

  • @matthewstacy2451
    @matthewstacy2451 Рік тому +1

    You can cut the by hand if I can??? What ???

  • @stevensiwinski
    @stevensiwinski Рік тому +2

    I think the logo would look better between the lines. I feel like if it was on the line, the logo would get a bit lost.

  • @hijikataissei9623
    @hijikataissei9623 Рік тому

    Fender seen this series and did their own Bog Kauri Jaguar. Ben made Fender feel threatened!!!!!

  • @derickballew5941
    @derickballew5941 Рік тому +1

    Loving the build so far. Inlay the logo inline with the veneer it'll look great. I've always enjoyed watching your craftsmanship, please do it by hand it's more interesting.

  • @clinthughes6121
    @clinthughes6121 Рік тому +1

    Hey Ben. You’re awesome mate!! Inlay by hand, hands down mate. Ya hand work is lovely!!

  • @jimmytree1936
    @jimmytree1936 Рік тому +1

    Since you always take the road "less traveled" in your project, here's a Challenge; add a wire inlay to border the Crimson logo... brass or silver? Great contrast between the bog oak dots and the light coloured fretboard by the way!

  • @AManCalledMoose
    @AManCalledMoose Рік тому +1

    I have watched several of your videos now, and apart from the skill on show, and that applies to the whole team, the ting that stands out is the passion. Utterly awe inspiring. Respect 🤘🤘🤘

  • @Paul_Lane
    @Paul_Lane Рік тому +1

    I like the idea of doing on the line so it looks organic. Power or hand tools doesn’t really matter, either way we’d learn something.

  • @chrisggoodwin777
    @chrisggoodwin777 Рік тому +1

    New from Crimson Guitars for 2023: perpendicular frets! 😂

  • @greganderson8374
    @greganderson8374 Рік тому +1

    Since you are using 42,00 wood and ancient Bog Oak, you ought to make the nut out of Mammoth Ivory.

  • @mulgerbill
    @mulgerbill Рік тому +1

    Multiple coats of oil over shellac? That fretboard is gonna look deep enough to swim in!
    I'm in favour of the logo inlay positioned as at 18:38 and the inlay done by hand because watching you do fine work close up is incredibly soothing for the spirit

  • @SkittleKicksPlays
    @SkittleKicksPlays Рік тому

    I've often wondered who was it that decided that the dot inlay had to be on odd fret numbers (aside from 12 or 24). I know those are major notes, but it could have easily worked on even numbers. 🤔

  • @PikkuDJ
    @PikkuDJ Рік тому

    inlay by hand and in between the lines!

  • @RogerBarraud
    @RogerBarraud Рік тому

    I think you mean "You can cut *them* by hand..." 🙂
    Greetings from the Land of Swampy Kauri 🙂
    PS Wish us luck with this latest Severe Cyclone (they don't want us to know it's really a hurricane :-/ )...

  • @jamessavage8220
    @jamessavage8220 Рік тому

    This would have been a great opportunity to CNC something awesome for dots... little kiwis or something unique.

  • @Andy-Gt
    @Andy-Gt Рік тому +1

    I’d go between the lines with the logo, I think you’d lose the neck outline in the pin stripe otherwise.

  • @toblexson5020
    @toblexson5020 Рік тому

    'There is no replacing a (...) quality drill bit'
    I disagree.
    Replacing is essential when someone mixes your nice brand new brad point bits into their box of 100 20 year old homebase or whatever bits. And then somehow manages to rust one of them in a week.

  • @toblexson5020
    @toblexson5020 Рік тому

    So considering that the woods used are thousands of years old, will we be seeing some 2,000+ year old cupronickel/bronze used for the frets? Bit too optimistic?

  • @SweetTGuitars
    @SweetTGuitars Рік тому

    Did you give up on the Otho Pencil I sent you! I've actually started using my GraphGear 1000 more. They are great and I agree with you about the clip! Oh yeah, I was wrong about the "Redwood" I sent, It's actually Western Red Cedar! I love this build so far man. Very cool. Peace & Love

  • @johnro6659
    @johnro6659 Рік тому

    Nice, I missed a lot of your vids UA-cam stopped notifying of a lot of channels I an subscribed to after I cleared my history. I have to catch up. I need to do this on a fretless guitar I bought last week. I thought it would be cool because I own a fretless bass and have had several in the past but a fretless guitar is nothing like trying to play a fretless bass. There is a couple things I like about it but a fretted neck IMO is much better. I will need tools I haven't built a guitar in years and got rid of most of my tools. I do have some stainless steel jumbo fret wire for a refret job I did a year or so ago.

  • @danagetellefsen9394
    @danagetellefsen9394 Рік тому +2

    Looks amazing! surprised you didn't align the grain of the dots with the grain of the fretboard though. Would love to see the inlay done by hand, but I don't think you should follow the veneer as I feel it might disappear a bit. perhaps parallel with the veneer, but in between.

    • @danagetellefsen9394
      @danagetellefsen9394 Рік тому

      fake account much?

    • @rjdeseijn
      @rjdeseijn Рік тому

      Who commented on your initial comment here?
      Was it Chrimson Guitars? ( Telegram only )

  • @codyjay5634
    @codyjay5634 Рік тому

    is "the dog's danglies" British for "the bee's knees"?

  • @veguitars
    @veguitars Рік тому

    Inlay by hand definitely

  • @DSClesowich
    @DSClesowich Рік тому

    I feel that the neck of the CCG logo inline with a veneer battles of the same directional line and takes away from the logo itself. I think that if you were to place it in between the veneer lines that you would compliment the implied line and flow that the piece has. It would also echo the style / placement of the truss rod inlay, as that too would be between the lines in the center of the head stock.
    Really wonderful work, I enjoy that your videos and that you are able to share with us all.

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E Рік тому

    Could you not have ran the Grain on the Position Markers in the Same Direction to spare my OCD Ben? 😂👌

  • @frodedyb4866
    @frodedyb4866 Рік тому

    How about breaking the veneer lines? This guitar is SO promising!🤩

  • @mephistovonfaust
    @mephistovonfaust Рік тому

    Title: "You can cut the by Hand if I can! Fret Slotting"
    Me: What???

  • @jmanson3310
    @jmanson3310 Рік тому

    The wood looks beautiful but very difficult to work with.

  • @clausanders2886
    @clausanders2886 Рік тому

    I'll put the logo right between the outlines of the head, aligned to the center line. And good night (from here).

  • @maureenwhitford8396
    @maureenwhitford8396 Рік тому

    Further to comment 2 mins ago it might look even better if the logo was set askew say a few degrees anticlockwise.

  • @kirstinkornblume3547
    @kirstinkornblume3547 Рік тому

    Will this guitar ever be built to end?

  • @Walking_Death
    @Walking_Death Рік тому

    It's killing my OCD that you didn't line up the grain in the dots.

  • @jonwold
    @jonwold Рік тому

    between the lines, by hand :)

  • @PaulCooksStuff
    @PaulCooksStuff Рік тому

    Put the headstock logo wherever the string tree won't be.

  • @vanshankguitars
    @vanshankguitars Рік тому

    Always harder to read between the lines, so I vote you follow a line.

  • @VAXHeadroom
    @VAXHeadroom Рік тому

    I know your old fret slotting saw didn't have a depth stop...because it's in a cabinet in MY shop!! MUHAHAHA! 😁

  • @LilyJaneH
    @LilyJaneH Рік тому +1

    I really love your sprung center punch. I have one that you push down on to mark with, but it requires so much force that I only really use it for woods like rosewood and purpleheart and on metal. Might I inquire where I might find one? Do you have them on your tool site? I’m just not really sure what to call them.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Рік тому +1

      Hi Kyle, if you contact the Vintage Tool Shop - shop@vintagetoolshop.com They might have one in stock?

  • @AndrewSmith-pc8eq
    @AndrewSmith-pc8eq Рік тому

    Can't you use the CNC to cut the logo into the head stock???

  • @TeeFetch
    @TeeFetch Рік тому

    should inlay your head tattoo on the back of the headstock

  • @rosettenzerrer
    @rosettenzerrer Рік тому

    The FAMAGs are really good, but i have ENT and they do great. Although, not cheap...
    Just important to use the good drill bits only for the jobs where quality matters. I have a numerous old and cheap bits für drilling in junk wood, plates and so on...

  • @jasonyoung7705
    @jasonyoung7705 Рік тому

    My fret markers are different. i use my router, with a triangle-pointed bit, to make small holes on 3/5/7/etc finger positions. Then, I take my trusty bag of 1/2 inch flat-head screws, then with just a few twists, fret markers! (thats why I have to router first, for the underside of the screw head).
    Some people say my work is slap-dash and bodged. Some people are right.

  • @liontribegc
    @liontribegc Рік тому

    Cheers from Texas!
    where to put the logo?
    Ask the owner 😉
    If they are ok with voting?
    i say, use the veneer, as the centerline, centerline, centerline, 😊
    All the best.
    Michael Francis.

  • @cheapskate8656
    @cheapskate8656 Рік тому

    I tried scalpel marking fret slots as you suggested Ben. It does not work for me. I find the edge of the saw (not the middle) wants to run in the cut, so the saw runs slightly off centre. If you are ADHD like me then you forget which side you ran the saw on the previous fret and it can add up to a problem. Love your work.

  • @steveeason2207
    @steveeason2207 Рік тому

    In-line with the veneer...... Can you get it spot on and completely parallel with the next veneer line? That is the question! And just for fun, wrap the logo perimeter in copper sheet before inlaying.

  • @barrychristian4050
    @barrychristian4050 Рік тому

    Am disappointed that you didn't line up the grain on the fret markers ! Grain plug rule 101 😁🤦 but still looks good

  • @fungusv375
    @fungusv375 Рік тому

    The inlay head find the line 30-degree tilt up from that line. The reason i am making guitar / voilà de gamba \ cello hybrid and hexagons as structs etc and as they are equilateral triangles (6 of) half of 60 is 30 thought it be cool and yeah my head is on the how to break your own mind (Thanks Ben). And by hand as i done front and backplate twice front i carved a lovely bowl shape crack all the way through so see on fixes or start again, so this is your fault as you said make saw dust i never done this before and from scrap wood and pallet because it was said it couldn't be done well see about that. Also, this is for 3rd place in a flower show where 3rd was part pallet nailed and sanded, called a shoe rack. i not done videos as i hate my face sound body and that have done pictures of this thing . so there is my input lol

  • @bevo65
    @bevo65 Рік тому

    Here’s how I use the miter box to slot fretboards after they have been attached to a neck. The miter box has four vertical panels. Each one is bolted to the base. With Stratocaster headstocks, it’s the treble side of the neck that gives you problems. So what I have done is to remove that one panel that gets in the way, and reattach it using long bolts and long spacers. It looks odd, but it is actually quite easy to keep the sawblade perpendicular to the neck. In fact, I don’t have to give it a second thought; the blade remains perfectly straight.

  • @K9Guitar
    @K9Guitar Рік тому

    My vote on the Crimson Guitar logo inlay: Drill the tuning peg holes first, then decide where to place the logo. Another observation (not a criticism): Would you normally line up the grain on the bog oak dot inlays all in one direction? It appears you placed them randomly. Another suggestion would be since the fretboard grain is wavy, perhaps it would be interesting to line up the bog oak dots grain with the waves. Too late now, of course, just interested in your take on that. Cheers from Morgan Hill, CA!

  • @zykotec
    @zykotec Рік тому

    19:58 'it's always better to think ahead, and solve the problems before they actually happen' . That's not as easy as it sounds 🙂

  • @danielwalter7106
    @danielwalter7106 Рік тому

    I knew you were going to use wood glue for the dots. Perfect. Use your rotary tool for the logo. Sweeping curve needs it. The plectrum was impressive. Bring back the hand tool build. Bring out your designs with some gray stain. Maybe too late?

  • @paulneeds
    @paulneeds Рік тому

    1: “ relatively” precise - that’s why I need a fret slot jig!
    2: why did you cut the nut slot on the radius?
    3: that, sure as hell beats cutting plugs!
    4: Dremel please.

  • @Craftlngo
    @Craftlngo Рік тому

    Am I the only one thinking the inlay in the headstock would look better NOT in line with the veneer? I would probably set the "neck" of the inlay right in the middle between two lines of veneer.

  • @ADFinlayson
    @ADFinlayson Рік тому

    Do a baritone scale ruler!

  • @markbader4942
    @markbader4942 Рік тому

    Since I have a multi tool with the right attachment for inlaying that I’ve never used, please do that. I’m sure there’s many many videos of rotary tool inlay work, but the Ben Crowe version will redefine the genre. Maybe I’m overstating things. Maybe not.

  • @Projacked1
    @Projacked1 Рік тому

    My teacher learned me too rotate the pencil while drawing the line with a the ruler -> for consistent line width.
    Also marking should be done lightly to avoid missing the (middle of the )mark . Try it :)

  • @fairguinevere666
    @fairguinevere666 Рік тому

    I used calipers, a 23 thou feeler gauge, and some arithmetic to do my first 4 guitars, with a vertical block clamped down to the board as a guide. Slow but by god it's accurate.

  • @Ninety2guits
    @Ninety2guits Рік тому

    "and then we are done... until the next one of a million tasks"🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @FlyZanzibar
    @FlyZanzibar Рік тому

    I watched this video the day AFTER cutting my first fret slots by hand (and without guitar-specific tools). Needless to say I'm very relieved to see that I did most things right :D

  • @alpeterson
    @alpeterson Рік тому

    Inlay in between the lines, and power tools. By hand is just longer footage but kinda bland watching IMO

  • @robertr4193
    @robertr4193 Рік тому

    I do thing the logo design would look best if it were lined up with one of the veneers in the head stock. Don't really care if you do it all with hand tools or power tools. Just giving my 2 cents worth on where it should be in my opinion. Best of luck and stay safe and healthy. Glad to see your head tattoo seems to be over the allergic reaction.

  • @DTGuitarTech
    @DTGuitarTech Рік тому

    Definitely in line with one of the join lines and by hand - I’d like to see how you do this. And near the bottom of the headstock away from the machine head holes. This one is looking great. Would it be a sin to install stainless steel frets? They would last forever. And it would tie in with the ancient wood! Stainless is all I install these days. Worth the effort even though hard on tool 👍

  • @timpickering1516
    @timpickering1516 Рік тому

    From one keen watch collector to another and completely off topic but can you do a video showing your watch collection? Cheers, Tim.

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E Рік тому

    I'm nor sure about the Headstock Ben, I think it could use a Veneer! Or a Partial Veneer, It looks a bit like Ruled Paper to me!

  • @watchnlearn2731
    @watchnlearn2731 Рік тому

    Your grammar is incorrect in the title

  • @rjdeseijn
    @rjdeseijn Рік тому

    Logo between the lines. It will make the headstock of the logo look clean.
    An industrial designers opinion in this case ;-)

  • @matthewkabat4633
    @matthewkabat4633 Рік тому

    Good afternoon Crimson guitars

  • @greenatom
    @greenatom Рік тому

    The vertical line of the logo will be weakened considerably if it coincides with the background line.

  • @AndrewSmith-pc8eq
    @AndrewSmith-pc8eq Рік тому

    Oh I'm like #420!!

  • @j79-p9u
    @j79-p9u Рік тому

    Inlay centered between veneer-lines :)

  • @greenatom
    @greenatom Рік тому

    The logo SHOULD NOT be in line. It would be visually confusing.

  • @pictie
    @pictie Рік тому

    I think crossing the lines something 90's styling with the inlay would be cool with the color tones of that beautiful old wood and that fe*der style head stalk.

  • @harounel-poussah6936
    @harounel-poussah6936 Рік тому

    Had already heard an big archtop made by a dutch luthier and a Tely by an US luthier out of this 40k years old NZ kauri, can't remember how to contact the supplier, I'd be interested to get what it takes to make a few instruments in the future as I found the sound pretty interesting.

  • @jimmythejock4376
    @jimmythejock4376 Рік тому

    Use the cnc router to cut out for the logo inlay. Less risk at this point. Lovely work Ben 👏. Just a note to mention, when you slapped the neck near the beginning of the video, I thought I heard the sound of the truss rod rattling. Might have been my imagination but I have had truss rod rattle issues of my own in the past and it haunts me.

  • @bigkevonbass
    @bigkevonbass Рік тому

    Everyone's saying in line with the veneer, I disagree. The logo will be lost and this is such a cool build I'd want everyone to see who made it.

  • @malcolmhouse9547
    @malcolmhouse9547 Рік тому

    Can't you use the CNC to cut the logo out