How does this painting link Leonardo da Vinci to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland? The Ugly Duchess

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2023
  • Britta New reveals surprising discoveries about 'The Ugly Duchess' and how the painting links Leonardo da Vinci to 'Alice in Wonderland'.
    Restorer Britta New discusses the conservation treatment of Quinten Massys's 'The Ugly Duchess', revealing discoveries made during the process, and the painting's connection to sketches by Leonardo da Vinci and John Tenniel's illustrations for 'Alice in Wonderland.'
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 88

  • @MademoiselleNuna
    @MademoiselleNuna Рік тому +189

    It never ceases to amaze me that we get to watch such high quality content worldwide FOR FREE!

  • @katarinatill4713
    @katarinatill4713 Рік тому +83

    Unbelievable! I thought it is a CONTEMPORARY painting/max.late 19th century,IMITATING old paintings in a funny way! But NO! Renaissance!
    REALLY HIT ME! WONDERFUL ! THANK YOU SO MUCH! 👏👏🤗

  • @papwithanhatchet902
    @papwithanhatchet902 Рік тому +58

    The dutchess is one of the creepiest illustrations in any literature I’ve ever seen and has haunted me ever since I first read Alice in Wonderland when I was 7 years old. Matsys’ grotesque Dutchess is even more disturbing.

  • @c.t5136
    @c.t5136 Рік тому +47

    This is one of my favourite paintings. I have her postcard, bought from the gallery, as she assists me in pondering upon life... Such an emotive painting. Thank you for sharing her as many just walk past with a giggle or uncomfortable glance.

  • @dethengine
    @dethengine Рік тому +5

    Wow! That is amazing work. I can't imagine the pressure I would feel after being given the task of "fixing" a centuries old painting. She is a pro and an artist.

  • @amyslingsby6947
    @amyslingsby6947 Рік тому +22

    I have a postcard of this painting from one of my visits to the Gallery. Even printed in that form the details are amazing. I love it. Thank you for giving her the care she deserves.

  • @skybug1706
    @skybug1706 Рік тому +2

    i agree it is a transfixing, gorgeous and respectable painting full of mastery. if the duchess were transformed into a beautiful, young form of herself she'd have qualities like the lovely restorer, which makes watching & listening to her appreciate the piece the way it deserves all the more enchanting

  • @jannetteberends8730
    @jannetteberends8730 Рік тому +4

    This painting always gives me the idea that the duchess is a composition of different persons.

  • @runswithcows
    @runswithcows Рік тому +5

    I love this rendition of the grotesque, the Duchess is in so many ways perfect.

  • @TheDefiniteArticle_
    @TheDefiniteArticle_ Рік тому +8

    I bet Leonardo da Vinci just did it for giggles, but now people look at it critically like it's a masterpiece, though I do admit it's very good.

    • @blobloblob1627
      @blobloblob1627 Рік тому

      Imagine spending months with so much dedication and hardwork just for something not serious.

  • @echoscience5839
    @echoscience5839 Рік тому +4

    I got a detention because I had this picture on a Google slide in 5th grade. Fun times.

  • @oopurpledove
    @oopurpledove Рік тому +16

    Thank you so much for sharing your talents with us ❤

  • @TheEvelynTurner
    @TheEvelynTurner Рік тому +13

    Amazing. Thank you. Another gem to add to my secondary school portrait project. Thank you.

  • @kirktucker7360
    @kirktucker7360 Рік тому +7

    Thank you Britta excellently described and those hands are truly wonderful

  • @prolificF8
    @prolificF8 Рік тому +14

    I am wondering why modern pigments (e.g. Cadmiums) are used to restore the background? Wouldn’t you want to keep with the pigments available at the time?
    Thank you for bringing this knowledge to the public. It increases appreciation for the arts.

  • @stevie-ray2020
    @stevie-ray2020 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Britta for explaining the restoration process!

  • @chickenlips74
    @chickenlips74 Рік тому +2

    Very impressive, the whole restoration process, and all the knowledge and skill that goes into it, I really admire that! Please do more of these videos, I love to watch them. ❤

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Рік тому

      More to come! You can also check out the 'Behind the Scenes in Conservation' section on our channel.

  • @timkbirchico8542
    @timkbirchico8542 Рік тому +2

    it must be a tiring and scary job, every stroke so crucial. though satisfying

  • @RinpochesRose
    @RinpochesRose Рік тому +1

    Exquisite painting. Excellent talk. 👍🏻

  • @isashax
    @isashax Рік тому +3

    Fascinating video. So much work!

  • @starcrib
    @starcrib Рік тому +2

    Fascinating, marvelous experience ✨️

  • @Beruthiel45
    @Beruthiel45 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting history, and despite the title the artist's skill is amazing. Thank you. 👍😊

  • @arabellachampaq689
    @arabellachampaq689 Рік тому

    Ms New, thank you so much. You are clearly very knowledgeable and it was a pleasure to view this.

  • @Leatherargento
    @Leatherargento Рік тому +2

    Massys definitely appreciated needlecraft and weaving as the arts that they were.

  • @lindagillies4939
    @lindagillies4939 Рік тому

    One of my favourite paintings, would love to get a print of this.

  • @franzrogar
    @franzrogar Рік тому +1

    I'd be nice to see the raking light of the final painting and the back of it. Did you choose a 3d-movement backing support like the Durero's "Addam" in the Prado Museum (Spain) or did you leave it with nothing?

  • @peckinpahlady
    @peckinpahlady Рік тому +3

    Wonderfully informative video. Thank you very much.

  • @Truth.Keeper
    @Truth.Keeper Рік тому

    Humans have a fascination with the extremes. In this case the other side of the beauty spectrum. Amazing work.

  • @funkykoval2099
    @funkykoval2099 Рік тому +1

    Hi.
    Is there a large digitalization available for further studies?

  • @philreynolds2465
    @philreynolds2465 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely fascinating.
    What an amazing piece of art its breathtaking.
    The skills & enthusiasm of the people who look after it & the collection should be celebrated.
    Than you
    .

  • @Chloe_Stella
    @Chloe_Stella Рік тому +1

    Amazing work!

  • @Sheepdog1314
    @Sheepdog1314 Рік тому +1

    beautiful work

  • @petermikulski6651
    @petermikulski6651 Рік тому +1

    Awesome work!

  • @465maltbie
    @465maltbie Рік тому +1

    Thanks or sharing, pretty interesting about the background. You could drive yourself crazy trying to sort out what has happened without any real documentation from the past.

  • @terfalicious
    @terfalicious Рік тому +1

    Nice work! Interesting subject and good presenter.

  • @izmargad
    @izmargad Рік тому +8

    I'd like to have all three stages side by side because the differences are too subtle to an inexperienced eye.

  • @96powerpower
    @96powerpower Рік тому

    fascinating work

  • @amolarteraffaella1412
    @amolarteraffaella1412 Рік тому +2

    Non vedo attinenza con le pitture di Leonardo. Comunque è una bella scoperta,soprattutto perché ha a che fare con la favola di Alice nel Paese delle Meraviglie. Grazie

  • @mstalcup
    @mstalcup Рік тому +2

    There must be a connection between the paintings; the left hands of the duchess and the old man are identical in pose.

  • @sacredkinetics.lns.8352
    @sacredkinetics.lns.8352 Рік тому +3

    ` 🕊️
    Thak you for the educational and sophisticated explanation.

  • @motaman8074
    @motaman8074 Рік тому

    Very interesting. Thanks

  • @lususlove
    @lususlove Рік тому

    Great job, she looks amazing :)

  • @rawbluecheese
    @rawbluecheese Рік тому

    The first copy of Alice in Wonderland I had as a child I got in a 2nd hand shop had that style duchess in the illustrations. Gutted I lost it.

  • @blablblaaaaaaaaa
    @blablblaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +1

    i know this sound crazy but look at the film the green man i think it's called,they show something of some kind of alchemical technology they had in the past for take some kind of photos,i really believed that there rally was something similar in some very restricted special "groups" .

  • @santiagofernandez880
    @santiagofernandez880 Рік тому

    Very interesting.

  • @deepdivemusicreactions
    @deepdivemusicreactions Рік тому

    amazing

  • @tommunyon2874
    @tommunyon2874 Рік тому

    Hands are indeed one of the more intimidating subjects to paint. One has to wonder about the choices that went into the creation of headgear in ages past.

  • @luckyang8120
    @luckyang8120 Рік тому

    Unique,

  • @777lionfirex7
    @777lionfirex7 Рік тому +1

    Reminds me of the character off of alice madness returns

  • @amolarteraffaella1412
    @amolarteraffaella1412 Рік тому +1

    La mano appoggiata oltre ad essere simile a quella del dipinto del 1513, si nota un richiamo alla mano di un dipinto di Antonello da Messina.

  • @kylesnuffleupagus8591
    @kylesnuffleupagus8591 Рік тому

    LOVE❤

  • @shable1436
    @shable1436 Рік тому +1

    Art is beautiful even when it's ugly

  • @gfrankenstein4425
    @gfrankenstein4425 Рік тому +1

    Who put Jerry Stiller in a painting?

  • @janeknight3597
    @janeknight3597 Рік тому +7

    There is a roof boss of the same shape and sex as this Duchess in Wantage parish church. This would have been known to Lewis Caroll under his Oxford personality.

  • @winny3455
    @winny3455 Рік тому

    Surprise to see the duchess here. I saw the original in the Prado in Madrid in 2018. The story is that she lived in the same neighbourhood as Leonardo and he disliked her very much because she was a gossip and a disruptive influence in the community. He made this caricature of her and Massys made an oil painting many years later.

  • @philsophkenny
    @philsophkenny Рік тому

  • @steveg8322
    @steveg8322 Рік тому

    Add any number of years and she is us,hence the original title.The squeezed bosom a vestige of her youthful beauty and she herself a budding rose.

  • @giacogiaco5540
    @giacogiaco5540 9 місяців тому +1

    She looks so much like my Mother In-law...

  • @candynewton4945
    @candynewton4945 Рік тому +2

    Are you going to put another cradle on the back to preserve the square shape or put on a wood frame? How will painting stand on its own?🇺🇲

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Рік тому +7

      Hi @Candy Newton, thank you for your question!
      Although the panel has been thinned, it is painted on very high quality Baltic oak and unlikely to take up more than a very slight curvature. It is now stable and self-supporting so does not require a new fixed auxiliary support, it is however housed within a frame and this does give additional support for handling and during display. If you're interested in art restoration and conservation videos you can find more on our channel.

  • @stinew358
    @stinew358 Рік тому

    She might have had a lighter background because she is lit with direct light which casts strong shadows. The man as far as I can see doesn't share her shadows.

    • @stinew358
      @stinew358 Рік тому

      Though he might be heavily retouched to make him look more like how people in the past wanted to imagine paintings were done by the "true serious" masters

  • @user-pl6wk3wg6d
    @user-pl6wk3wg6d 10 місяців тому

    Wonders never case! The 'restorer' explains everything very well, but her 'palette' appears a very 'limited' and somewhat 'simple' formula for an Old Master painting---one would have assumed that there were several 'glazes' to build up to the final finish. Otherwise a 'treat' to all art lovers fascinated (as were the Italian Renaissance artists) by the portrayal of character in old people's faces!

  • @JelleSophie
    @JelleSophie Рік тому

    Antwerp painters where the best!

  • @westaussie965
    @westaussie965 Рік тому +1

    “Clearly one of the most beautiful paintings in the gallery”😂

  • @PureNRG2
    @PureNRG2 Рік тому

    This woman’s job is akin to cutting priceless diamonds.

  • @midnightchannel7759
    @midnightchannel7759 Рік тому

    Striking, yes. "Beautiful...", perhaps not so much imho.

  • @kc3718
    @kc3718 Рік тому

    i don't understand how removing parts of the picture, to suit modern taste, can be conserving ? That's editing ? Is it not possible that picture was part of a larger scene, and now it has been successively pruned to lose all the original meaning and balance ? We don't rebuild battle ruined castles or add parts to archaeological fragments....

  • @HBCrigs
    @HBCrigs Рік тому +2

    Culture is quite an interesting thing, to me she’s gorgeous, to others she’s totally unnerving or disgusting .. there’s a lot we could look into on what causes that difference, but i think it’s quite an noteworthy one

  • @jordanfalkowski6924
    @jordanfalkowski6924 Рік тому

    Light Shad\g1,

  • @beezysbeatz4924
    @beezysbeatz4924 Рік тому

    Let me guess Leo was transitioning to Leah?

  • @peterhamlet1415
    @peterhamlet1415 Рік тому

    Too much pepper

  • @LINKISDEAD
    @LINKISDEAD Рік тому

    Id be upset if i knew ppl were altering/restoring my painting while i was gone.
    They didn't paint them to last forever. i only think age and decay add to the beauty of it.
    Like thats not your painting lol why are you touching it

  • @marianne6876
    @marianne6876 Рік тому +3

    Is that Lavrov? In Ukraine he is called 'The Sad Horse' 🤭😁

  • @anneduff9294
    @anneduff9294 Рік тому +7

    I can't believe that you removed the side strip of the painting "because it didn't serve any purpose, really"..

  • @jacobhoffman2553
    @jacobhoffman2553 Рік тому

    he did not paint fictional characters.... those were real ppl.... real ppl with alot of money..... he worked for nobility

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 Рік тому +1

    It's a beautifully painted image of a not beautiful woman.

  • @joseffinat966
    @joseffinat966 Рік тому

    Nou UA-cam heeft weer niks over wat vertaling betreft maar als je ook nog naar een ratelfabriek moet luisteren is de lol er snel vanaf ,slechte vertoning als geheel

  • @ThatOpalGuy
    @ThatOpalGuy Рік тому +9

    this is just an epic troll of reichwingers by the artist by painting a man in drag.

  • @michaeloneill6524
    @michaeloneill6524 Рік тому

    Great skill,......but that is a scary looking women and would never hang that on my wall. It makes me uncomfortable to look at.

  • @galadrizela
    @galadrizela Рік тому

    This looks like some people's momma.

  • @bethlehemeisenhour8352
    @bethlehemeisenhour8352 Рік тому

    His paintings are for the fire. The LAST SUPPER, HAD no woman. What mocking he did with that.

  • @ohshitniggaaa
    @ohshitniggaaa Рік тому +1

    the painting is making fun of older women that dress "too young for their age". the painter had a sense of humor