What has really helped me with "pushers" is to hit overheads. The moonball has to bounce in the court so it usually ends up bouncing to about the height of where I toss my serve. The key is to step forward to the bounce in order to get "under" the apex of the bounce. From there I just hit spinny, second serve-like overheads over and over again. Sooner or later there moonballing capabilities diminish because they are getting a hard curveball over and over. Moral of the story: practice overheads from the baseline.
Pushers move well horizontally.... they have problems with vertical movements...give them short cross court slices and invite them to the net for volley...they are usually pretty bad at volleying and overheads...you can win your point from here...
EXACTLY!!! This is the inconvenient truth so many are ignoring. In the lower categories you can beat the best of aggressive ground stroke specialists with moonballing, because practicing the overhead is beneath their dignity.
I've had people hit the down the line passing shot on me so many times I've lost a set but whatever. I think coaches underestimate the placement of players who aren't hitting very hard.
I think tactics are least effective against pusher style players since they can pretty much reset the point with every ball you hit at them. Pushers can be very good. Don't count on them putting up weak lobs on the run, I've encountered the opposite, where they totally reset the point while I chase down a lob over my head. Basically, you'd better have a powerful approach shot or be able to find the corners multiple hits in a row or you're looking at many 20+ hit rallies. There is no shortcut to beating them, you simply have to be good. I hit pretty hard and consistent and I still get sucked into a dozen or so marathon rallies a match vs this type of player. You pretty much have to be a 4.0 to beat a good pusher or "ball retriever" style player.
Pushers want you to know that you are steady enough to beat them. They don’t miss and you do. End of story. Serve +1 works against every player. You do realize that you are talking to amateurs, right? Serve +1 requires a serve and a big forehand, which most amateurs don’t. Most amateurs and most better players don’t have a good enough close rate to justify the risk. Alcaraz? You can’t even begin to assess Alcaraz. Cover the crosscourt passing shot. So you are a mind reader too? They will lob here? You telestrater types somehow think technology makes you an expert and a coach. You are an incompetent businessman selling consulting. Now back to playing a pushed. The single most important thing to do is to not press. You need to find what is just enough - the least risky, slowest shots, not near the line - to stay with him in the rallies. The term pusher generally is used to mean a player with no finishing shots. You then need to patiently wait for a super easy ball to materialize - it could be a bad bounce to him, his mishit, an accidental ball by you that gets near the corner, just don’t force the situation. When you get the setup, finish the point. If you don’t have a finishing shot, pack a lunch and have a stronger will than the pusher. Cramps may be the only way you will win. This CB is from someone who was a national junior champion, an NCAA singles and doubles champion, an ATP top ten in the world in singles and doubles, a Wimbledon sand US Open senior champ. And, oh yeah, stop watching this bozo’s “content”.
I'm just a commenter and neither a coach nor a content creator. If you are really an ex-top 10 (which I believe you are) then you should focus on creating your own coaching program and ignore competition, especially if you believe they are incompetent. Comments like these will make people believe that you are either have become a very frustrated ex-pro or you are not who you claim you are, just another keyboard warrior (like me). No one will think: oh, this guy is right, FYB is bollocks and I should follow this guy instead (but where to?)
@ another aspect you don’t understand at all. Coaching is not an online system, in spite of your efforts to cash in. Tennis coaching is one on one, in person. It is a detailed teaching of technique that takes years. Involved is also determine the temperament of each individual. The beginning of winning is ONLY one thing - reduce your errors. People don’t like to hear this but it is the truth. With correct technique that can be grown into bigger shots once consistency is achieved at a basic level, the steady player learns mental toughness. The number of players who are gifted enough to take risk have to measure their close rate. 3 errors per winner is the ultimate losing formula; yet most layers take clinics to implement this. Your mediocre schtick on strategy is ludicrous because it assumes that a player has the variety and placement to implement. I have 36 ATP titles, NCAA singles and doubles titles, US Open and Wimbledon senior titles. My father was an acclaimed coach who had me teaching from the age of 8. I have built a dozen D1 players from the ground up. I have coached the #1 doubles player in the world for his entire career. I have taken 6+ 2.0 women to 4.0. Frustrated? I don’t seek out your nonsense. You invade my feed, which is what you want in order to peddle your garbage. My frustration is with the number of charlatans attempting to teaching the wrong things to people who just want to learn.
What has really helped me with "pushers" is to hit overheads. The moonball has to bounce in the court so it usually ends up bouncing to about the height of where I toss my serve. The key is to step forward to the bounce in order to get "under" the apex of the bounce. From there I just hit spinny, second serve-like overheads over and over again. Sooner or later there moonballing capabilities diminish because they are getting a hard curveball over and over. Moral of the story: practice overheads from the baseline.
Pushers move well horizontally.... they have problems with vertical movements...give them short cross court slices and invite them to the net for volley...they are usually pretty bad at volleying and overheads...you can win your point from here...
Practice overheads, if you aren't a pusher. Pushers see immediately, if you have problems with lobs.
EXACTLY!!! This is the inconvenient truth so many are ignoring. In the lower categories you can beat the best of aggressive ground stroke specialists with moonballing, because practicing the overhead is beneath their dignity.
I've had people hit the down the line passing shot on me so many times I've lost a set but whatever. I think coaches underestimate the placement of players who aren't hitting very hard.
You should cover the line shortest distance
I think tactics are least effective against pusher style players since they can pretty much reset the point with every ball you hit at them. Pushers can be very good. Don't count on them putting up weak lobs on the run, I've encountered the opposite, where they totally reset the point while I chase down a lob over my head. Basically, you'd better have a powerful approach shot or be able to find the corners multiple hits in a row or you're looking at many 20+ hit rallies. There is no shortcut to beating them, you simply have to be good. I hit pretty hard and consistent and I still get sucked into a dozen or so marathon rallies a match vs this type of player. You pretty much have to be a 4.0 to beat a good pusher or "ball retriever" style player.
Great for "Battle of attrition" :D
I should stop playing behind my opponents.
I am 50. There is no "behind my opponent" anymore, they just don´t run.
😂
Odd, we have many 50+ year olds in my club, some are fast AF.
@@JK-wz7ujwe have 70 year olds who can cover the whole court
@@tennisace40 Actually we even have a guy who just turned 90! He can move better than some of the 50-60 year olds
Tomic is good pusher
Pushers want you to know that you are steady enough to beat them. They don’t miss and you do. End of story. Serve +1 works against every player. You do realize that you are talking to amateurs, right? Serve +1 requires a serve and a big forehand, which most amateurs don’t. Most amateurs and most better players don’t have a good enough close rate to justify the risk. Alcaraz? You can’t even begin to assess Alcaraz. Cover the crosscourt passing shot. So you are a mind reader too? They will lob here? You telestrater types somehow think technology makes you an expert and a coach. You are an incompetent businessman selling consulting. Now back to playing a pushed. The single most important thing to do is to not press. You need to find what is just enough - the least risky, slowest shots, not near the line - to stay with him in the rallies. The term pusher generally is used to mean a player with no finishing shots. You then need to patiently wait for a super easy ball to materialize - it could be a bad bounce to him, his mishit, an accidental ball by you that gets near the corner, just don’t force the situation. When you get the setup, finish the point. If you don’t have a finishing shot, pack a lunch and have a stronger will than the pusher. Cramps may be the only way you will win. This CB is from someone who was a national junior champion, an NCAA singles and doubles champion, an ATP top ten in the world in singles and doubles, a Wimbledon sand US Open senior champ. And, oh yeah, stop watching this bozo’s “content”.
I'm just a commenter and neither a coach nor a content creator. If you are really an ex-top 10 (which I believe you are) then you should focus on creating your own coaching program and ignore competition, especially if you believe they are incompetent. Comments like these will make people believe that you are either have become a very frustrated ex-pro or you are not who you claim you are, just another keyboard warrior (like me). No one will think: oh, this guy is right, FYB is bollocks and I should follow this guy instead (but where to?)
@ another aspect you don’t understand at all. Coaching is not an online system, in spite of your efforts to cash in. Tennis coaching is one on one, in person. It is a detailed teaching of technique that takes years. Involved is also determine the temperament of each individual. The beginning of winning is ONLY one thing - reduce your errors. People don’t like to hear this but it is the truth. With correct technique that can be grown into bigger shots once consistency is achieved at a basic level, the steady player learns mental toughness. The number of players who are gifted enough to take risk have to measure their close rate. 3 errors per winner is the ultimate losing formula; yet most layers take clinics to implement this. Your mediocre schtick on strategy is ludicrous because it assumes that a player has the variety and placement to implement. I have 36 ATP titles, NCAA singles and doubles titles, US Open and Wimbledon senior titles. My father was an acclaimed coach who had me teaching from the age of 8. I have built a dozen D1 players from the ground up. I have coached the #1 doubles player in the world for his entire career. I have taken 6+ 2.0 women to 4.0. Frustrated? I don’t seek out your nonsense. You invade my feed, which is what you want in order to peddle your garbage. My frustration is with the number of charlatans attempting to teaching the wrong things to people who just want to learn.