Some days when withdrawals are hell I wonder if this benzo detox journey will ever end. When I get to that low of a dose I might jump off. 8 months in benzo wd's will kick your butt but wake you up to true reality. It has me & I estimate 10 more months! Benzos made me a monster. I'm now at peace with my past & myself. Congrats on your progress! You are an inspiration!
HUGS you go Noah! 😎 I made ONE resolution for my new year, STAY ALIVE. It may sound stupid, but I was suicidal a LOT last year. Here's hoping for a better year 🎬
I have never understood why people feel the need to get off such a low dose of benzos! Why? If you were popping 5 mgs, 3 times a day..then yeah. If it helps you (even if it's all in your mind), so be it. I'm sure withdrawal can be horrible, but the obvious answer is don't stop and you won't go through withdrawal. Just don't mix with alcohol or other drugs, and you're good.
I agree totally with Tony. Take the pill if it helps you. All these negative stories on benzos make me sick. I would rather take benzos than live with horrible daily anxiety!!
People also don’t talk about the extreme toll anxiety and stress has on the body. It is an unacceptable way to live and people who try to make others feel less than for needing benzos are very damaging to people who’s lives could be drastically improved.
let go man. you are on test so it might not be good for you. focus on your exercise, life, friends, girl, job, etc. my friend was so addicted that i hate pills, she was also a medical marijuana card holder. Honestly seeing her withdraw on pharmaceuticals pills pissed me off. They have strong herb for anxiety and even depression. im an advocate for medical marijuana, planning on studying botany and its medical effects. im not saying its for everyone, but i have seen the worst in pills that i plan never to touch them. good luck on your journey man you have been inspiring to me on my alcohol abuse, and to come off that nasty shit. planning on getting a card as well because it actually helps me not think about drinking.stay strong man and know that you have people you inspire. god bless
back story on myself, 2010 i had a panic/ derealization attack, drs diagnosed me having alcohol withdrawls not a panic/derealization episode. i drank a few 40s a day, smoked weed, so in my mind at that time i bought it. they prescribed me ativan. ok. give benzos to a person who drinks alot/ smoked alot of grass. took it until prescription was gone. got terrible uncontrollable shakes. another dr said you cant just stop taking it. im like well thanks other docs for telling me. got addicted to it went from 215 lbs to 155 lbs. i didnt drink or smoke for over a year. had a crazy roller coaster ride that year. i met my wife that year she helped me through, tapered myself off of it. i still have episodes, found your channel a long while back and ive felt in a way what you've felt. good to not be alone with what ive experienced/still experience. i still drink beer having a hard time kicking it. im here with you, without each other we're nothing.
Bignoknow. Hey brother I have been through what you have been through and I know its not easy, but bro you are literally almost there and I believe that you can stop if "you" really want to. You are on such a low dose and I think if you can go a day in between then you are literally right there. That's the thing though that it really comes down to you really wanting to stop or not. Trust me bro I have had seizures coming off of benzos and you are at the point where the risk of seizure is very small. You are only prolonging everything by continuing to take them and the doctors don't really care if you get off of them or not and they will continue to give them to you as long as you want. If you really want to stop try going 3 days without it and if you don't have any w/d from that you are in the clear and can get off of them. The hard part of benzo w/d is the seizure risk and the twitching and muscle jerking and the lack of sleep. If you are able to sleep without them then you are fine and its really battling the mental part at this point. Just remember, you are the only one that can decide whether you want to stop and if you can go more than A day without w/d then why even take them? Also if you deal with bad anxiety like I do then the pills will only compound your problem in the long run and getting off of them actually helped with my anxiety after a couple months. I've gotten into yoga, eating healthy, and exercise after getting off of them and I feel better now than I ever have and I used to have debilitating anxiety and would have anxiety attacks multiple times a day and sometimes I would even faint or get severe chest pain. I've been off benzos for 22 months and I feel better than I ever have in my life.
Okay, disclaimer... I am only offering my opinion here. In my opinion, if you are taking the pill because being without it gives you withdrawal and you are being monitored by your doctor that is a far cry from addiction. Perhaps I am wrong but to me it would be addict behavior if you took it for the high/way it makes you feel. That being said, I'm proud of you for having the courage to say that you need it and being honest with your doctor. Hugs and Happy new year.
What works ALOT for long timer benzo users in my opinion is to just keep it in your pocket. Knowing that it is there is often times enough to keep your anxiety down and prevent a panic attack.
benzos aren't just for anxiety. they are often used for something called spaticity that people with arachnoiditis or other spinal cord injures suffer from.
Does klonopin cause DEPRESSION....because I take 1 mg at night and wake up SO depressed that I can't get out of bed....the reason I take it is that I can't sleep naturally.....and then I take 2 little klonopin 0.125 under the tongue in the day....but I am so depressed....HELP!!! and does it cause Agoraphobia.....I can't drive to the store anymore lost all self confidence......and what do I take to sleep naturally....I have tried herbs, magnesium and nothing works.
I am down to 1mg of Valium every 5 days and still can't let go. I tapered from 4mg of Xanax daily. It's taken 7 months to get this far. I understand completely.
I'm going through it. I'm weaning off. but I feel like i can't ever get off them but who knows one day I will or just take a small amount to just tease my brain :) it's a lose lose situation or could be a win-lose situation
Dude you definitely psyched yourself out due to your past addiction issues. You were so fearfull of getting addicted to something that could be addictive, and you have convinced yourself you are addicted. I take a clonazapam whenever I know Im going to be in a stressful situation (Flying somewhere, chrismas shopping, holiday dinners, gatherings with lots of people). Just use it as a PRN. Ive had extreme anxiety for about 16 years now. I was so consumed with it, that it was like my 2nd full time job. I just recently asked my doc to include testing for testosterone, and surprise, its low. That's why I starting watching this channel. Ive decided that its time for me to control the anxiety instead of it controlling me. It feels good to take my life back.
I'm currently micro tapering from 60mg of Valium down to 18.75mg over 3 years. Still have a ways to go. Like you, I do not feel anything when I take it but def will if I do not. The letting go part...security blanket like you said. I don't want this crap in my body anymore but I'm scared to be getting lower and lower just because it's all I've known for 15 years. What if I go back to how I was, what if I'm worse, what if what if, etc. I'm over here rooting for you and maybe you can just go really slow over the course of some time and keep going lower and lower. Might not be such a shock mentally. Positive thoughts your way!
hey....i was on 2mg of kalonopin 3xper day for about 1.5 years after a massive life trauma. i got 1 script of busbpuron prescribed to me and literally started weaning myself off tiny piece by tiny piece. then spent nearly 6 months freaking out, nervously picking my face and basically being in shock. i would guess this is primarily due to the nature of why i started taking it in the first place. its been 4 years since ive been off benzos and i promise you....the pills are so helpful. even for bad days in general.... but until you get it out of your system and learn to cope with whatever issues you are dealing with in nonprescription ways it will always be a crutch and a weakness....a government issued addiction and physical/mental need. i would definitely let go of this phase of your life because it holds you back more than you know. praying for you and will be thinking of you on your journey....just remember that the choice is still yours. once you decide to stop, nothing will get in your way....but if i can do it....you can TOTALLY DO IT!!!
You really do seem like a good person and if there is anything I can answer for you please feel free to ask and I will answer to the best of my ability and if I don't know for sure I will let you know that I'm not too sure rather than making something up. The struggle is real and I found its best to talk to people that have been through it like me
I recently ran out and wow , it affected my whole body ! I couldn't eat anything and volts if electric shocks ran through my body , the upside I lost weight and realized I must be very careful with my script . I am tapering and now in half of what I used to be . The truth , they make me feel great 😥
Brother, please just get off the benzos. Being dependent on benzos is the last thing you want if youre having problems with anxiety or depression. Benso withdrawals can last you up to YEARS if youve been taking them for a while. Just think about it. Heroin withdrawals last you like a week or so and you are fine, benso are often worse than heroin withdrawals and bensos can also kill you during the withdrawal. You are on such a low dose now, its the perfect time to stop taking them. Doesnt it feel good just the fact that you dont have any drugs in your system? Thats how i felt atleast.
Agreed. If you are sensitive soul who is also creative but prone to anxiety/panic attacks/depression, benzos are the worst thing to take. I'd rather be tapering from anything else, honestly. This stuff is hell on Earth.
Okay, maybe it was dumb to compare it to heroin, or another drug for that sake. I talked to a couple of heroin addicts when i was at the hospital for benzo withdrawal, and they pretty much said the same thing as i have been hearing before, that bensos can be like an opiate withdrawal or even worse because of the time it takes for you to heal. One of them said it takes him about a week of hell and then its pretty much a fast recovery from there. But then again, everyone is different. People doesnt have the same using habits etc. So i agree it was kinda stupid to compare benzos to heroin, but it can give you a perspective on how bad these prescribed medicines (that people often think is pretty harmless for you) really are. Atleast it did for me, when heroin addicts were concerned about me.
+Mr Free You said that you taper benzos right now. Do you taper opiates aswell? Have you tried go cold turkey on both of these? Im not saying you are wrong, im just curious about why people think so different about it. Anyways, hope youre doing alright :)
Heroin withdrawal typically lasts 5 to 10 days as it's a short acting opioid, the peak of the withdrawal is usually on the 2 and 3rd days. If you're injecting or using very large doses it just makes it a more intense physical withdrawal rather than a more protracted one. Of course the psychological cravings are a different matter, but with regards to the physical dependancy if the user has no other health issues & is in reasonable good health they will start to feel pretty good after a week. Other longer lasting opioids i.e. methadone, the withdrawals are twice that of heroin and far more unpleasant, try not sleeping for 2 weeks, you have to deal with psychosis as well as all the other horrible physical withdrawals. Of course the deeper someone is into their addiction the worse these withdrawals get, much easier to kick after 6 months of using rather than trying kick for the fortieth time after 20 years of using.
Hey baby, as always, I have so much respect for your honesty and willingness to be transparent....just want to say....loved that you thanked your mama before your daddy....lol... Love you to bits!😍
Hey, I'm tapering Klonopin doing a micro liquid taper and been doing so much better since I switched. 0.125mg of K is the equivalent of 2.5mg of Valium and I don't think it's safe to come off. I'm going to take my taper all the way dow to zero which is next weeks Wednesday. Best of luck to you.
Please read the Ashton Manual if you get a chance. What you're experiencing is not psychosomatic. Your brain/body are healing from extreme neurotoxicity caused by clonazepam. It affects your GABA receptors & wreaks havoc in your brain. Go at your own rate. You actually increase your chances of having a successful taper by going slower & more steadily. We're all biochemically different yet the symptoms are v. similar. Really glad you were able to come down to the dose you're at presently- that's no small feat. Thanks for posting the video:)
Thanks as always Noah for being brave enough to share. For me, I had to switch to valium when tapering off because it had a much longer half life, and that made it far smoother (although not symptom free, it was still uncomfortable) to get off of benzos over the course of a month.
Clonazepam has a long half life if you don't already know so thats whats probably getting you thru the stretches of the days in between. I would continue with the taper brother to get off as soon as you can and just being completely honest with you because ive done what your doing to maintain my life, work etc so i do understand you at the same time. Most important thing is to take your time with the taper when your ready and try not to regress. Peace
Letting go of something that we think is working even when it's something we want to stop taking or doing is so hard. I sure get what you're talking about. Appreciate your channel and for knowing that I too am not alone.
what's up dude. first, thanks for the videos. 2nd, don't put the extra pressure of "failing" us on yourself. we are all now or have been in a similar situation which is why we watch. 3rd, I went through that final .125mg taper. my psychiatrist basically said at that point it's more of a sugar pill then a medication. Yet, when I gave up that last little bit.... wow!!! it was a ride. if the effects of that small amount is just in our head, it's a habit that's hard to break. I'm off of them now for 6 months. I'm still trying to get it together but I don't have the need for them. there are times I want to jump back on them but I use different coping skills to get past it. let me say this, what I'm doing is working for me. may not work for the next person. but it slowly is getting better. keep up the good work and don't worry about how you look to us. cause you put yourself out there and we don't. just words not invite to our personal life
I Cold turkey quit klonopin 3 years ago. Took me two full years to get better. Just pure torture and absolute hell. Best of luck to you with your micro tapering.
kinda have been on the same boat. Been on benzo for 2 years, tapered, and like you, I hesitated on jumping off the last very low dose. Gave it a try on new years day. Still doing great! Give it a shot. Worst case scenario you can always take a step back. Don't be too hard on yourself. Wish you good luck x
Before I moved to United States i was addicted to this medicine and i used to see my drug dealer more than my family and one day i bet my friend that i can pop 10 pills !! Each one has 2mg.. i end locked up in jail for harming mysef with knife in front of 20 cops by the police department. Now its been three years and im clean but still suffering from side effect like memory or judgment, depression, anxiety, confusion 😣
U know it's not shameful to take medication! That being said, I think you know you can do it. U know that the first couple days after stopping will be anxiety filled. But u also know it will pass
Dude.. Your videos are beyond inspirational. So Sorry to hit you with a novel man but just had to express my appreciation. You've been through the hell. I can totally relate to all your struggles. For the last few months, November to be exact, I've decided to taper off Paxil that I've been on for 15 years. Through these last few months, I've never experienced something so incredibly hard in my entire life. Started with the tapering plus adding another, Clomipramine, to see if the problem was with Paxil. Got off Paxil and went through the withdrawals/discontinuation symptoms but the whole time adjusting to new med i guess. I've honestly never known hell like that, ever. Well turns out Clomipramine didn't do a single thing for MY anxiety. I gave it a good 2 months but had some heavy side effects. I've had to start taking Xanax pretty much single the heavy withdrawals hit around middle of December when i was coming off one and starting the other. Never had i had to depend on something so consistently but as you know the hell, what the hell else is there when you're in that state? Cut to now, Clomipramine never did anything and i still had to rely on Xanax so i needed to get off that also. About 12 days into that now and the hell coming off this is incredibly worse than the Paxil, which I'm guessing is because i don't have another antidepressant to help with it. So that's two different withdrawals in a 3 month period. I'm chewed lol. You know this exactly. I can't describe how great it is to feel the intensity of my good and sometimes bad feelings again though but the anxiety is still too wicked. Mostly I'm on the Clonazepam at least once a day, 0.5mg. I don't want to go on another antidepressant ever again, unless i had no choice but i feel like there is hope with the anxiety/panic, which is my basis of all of this. Like you, I obsess about the thought of maybe being addicted to Clonazepam now and don't want to have to deal with that. I just want to drink some beers with friends and all that and scared to do that with having to take this everyday. I completely apologize for this heavy novel but just wondering if you could help with some incite. Do you think I'm still in the withdrawals? Do you think its possible to be addicted to that now? Just hits too heavy man lol. Hey, either way, your vids inspire and give hope to so many people and I'm one of them. Keep up the wicked stuff!!
Taper! I've been tapering for well over a year and it still hits me like a ton of bricks when I go down for the next week or two. Benzos are scary and some people are hyper sensitive to them. I know I am. You do you but don't shame yourself if you need to do it slowly and over a long stretch of time. Read up on Clonazepam WD and side effects so you know what is going to happen and how you wants to go about kicking the addiction.
Jess Haggerty Taper is the key... I got to the point where I would shave off micro amounts at the end. its crazy how the amount of it the size of a grain of salt can effect someone. I too am very sensitive to drugs.
I am thankful for your videos. I recently had to be hospitalized and diagnosed with PTSD with MDD. That was a nightmare, not a good facility, caused more trauma, but thankfully no longer having night terrors from it. I have been on benzos 10 plus years. I honestly don't think I can get off them. Now my psychiatrist I have been with 10+ years is closing his practice. Major anxiety, as I trust no other. Help....
I am thankful for it. I stopped using it for some months and now I am back on. I am not addicted I am very sure but I need them to leave my house. Well them and my other meds. I will be on for the long haul.
The withdrawal for me became the most intense for me at about 2 weeks off completely. One thing you should definitely stay away from for awhile after you're completely off is alcohol. I messed with alcohol during withdrawal and it made it much more intense. The gaba receptors need time to heal so alcohol kind of messes that up.
Zanax has saved my life. I don't like being on it...my psy wanted to transfer to Konipin, but it did not work. Zanax makes me sleepy and takes me away for a while. What is really sad about my situation is I have a doctorate in my field, wiht passion for it and I can't even work! I very much want to work and was very good at what I did. Now I'm not worth much to this world. unfornaturaly.
Here's the way I look at it.. if you are upset and beating yourself up then just keep working on not taking it. If you can manage taking .125 without going up in dose then there's no problem with that. I don't see any physical differences and it still helps you... well shit sounds ok to me
ive come off klonopin as of late after 12 years. im pretty sure im experiencing extreme dp/dr. that's how i found your videos. at the moment i dont see what im experiencing actually going away. im experiencing such an awareness of my existence that i dont see ever not feeling this way again.
@@rebelbeaute1441 to a large degree yes. I think a lot of the experience is due to the absence of whatever chemical is used to keep you calm, both natural in your brain and/or the medication you stop taking. Now when the feeling of hyper awareness comes, I understand that it is due to a disorder (anxiety, PTSD) and when my brain decides that it is safe or decides to release it's natural antianxiety chemical (I don't remember what that is) the feeling will go away for the most part. I think the biggest impact I had on the effect of benzo withdrawal was giving my brain constant proof that I was safe and secure. It may sound funny, but long pampering bubble baths, stretch routines, exercise and self talk when you're in a hyper aware or hyper anxious state as if you are trying to comfort a child (because after all what is a toddler if not a big ball of walking unchecked emotions). I do indeed refer to the anger, fear, sadness anxiety as "the toddler in my head", actually. It's unrealistic to think someday in the future that your anxiety will never be a problem. I still very much have anxiety. But the ridiculously high amount you may be experiencing now WILL LOWER SIGNIFICANTLY with time spent on proving to your mind that there's not nearly as much of this mechanism needed as is being provided. Take care of yourself, pamper yourself, And challenge yourself while speaking to those fearful feelings as they need to be held and comforted while you experience the ordeal. Also go at your own pace. Good luck.
I just want to run this by somebody to make sure I’m not being deluded. I’m taking 1mg per day Klonopin. My thing is I’m leaving my house. I’m being social and hanging out with friends again, and I feel like I’m finally having a life and I’m not missing out. That just means so much to me. Waking up and having a normal day. Not waking up and fighting through a day of misery. Knowing full well tomorrow will be the same. Those closest to me say there’s a noticeable difference and are so happy I’m finally having a normal life. I for whatever reason don’t experience a tolerance to benzodiazepines. I’ve been off and on Xanax because I couldn’t make up my mind and kept wanting to compare life on it vs life off it. So 1 year on one year off. The withdrawal is real and does suck, but for me it presents itself as grumpy for a month. And it haunts me a bit knowing I’m essentially willing to become a slave to a chemical. And I’m fully aware the potential for brain damage, dementia, etc. Am I lying to myself if I think the benefits genuinely outweigh the risk. And I’ve had 3 separate psychs agree. Idk, it’s just a hard choice. But I’ve been through the whole rainbow for anxiety and schizoaffective. Don’t get me wrong Seroquel and Limictal help and they’re great. But benzodiazepines make the difference.
Hey Noah.. I am watching this now in 2023, lol. I am down to .125 daily, and I am asking the same questions as you once were. Are you off the klonopin now (if you don't mind me asking)? I've been on klonpin for almost 5 months, and i want off. My psychiatrist has me on a 10 week or so taper so far, and im down to .125, and I haven't really felt anything, to be honest. I was first prescribed 2 mg each day back in Aug 2022 and 4 weeks later. I was told i dont need it, so i got off it. That week, i was off it was crazy. :( 🤔(I got down to .25 at that point, it was Sept 31st or Oct 1st that my husband gave me .25 due to my panicking. I am back on and startrd at 0.75. I'm proud i didn't go back up to even 1 mg. How was withdrawal? If u had any, please let me know! Thank you! As I said I went from 0.75 now down to 0.125 in about 10 weeks or so. Please anwser me.
Brother .5 mg is not that bad I have been on this shit for more than 5 year 2 mg a day and I've tried to let go. Till my doctor says u can't , if you wanna quit is a process. Let me tell you I've been to hell and back with this disorder , and I know most of the ppl here has too, but pls let me know how you get as low as .5 mg a day. I would really like to know ,is hard specially when ppl around are skeptical when you open yourself to them .
Oh my god ... your story is mine. I have clinical depression and will have to be on meds for the rest of my life. Three years ago I started seeing a different Dr that decided to change that diagnosis to bipolar... even though I don't exhibit any of the symptoms of bp. She abruptly switched my zoloft to some crazy medication for bipolar, and that's when my life plummeted into complete and utter despair. I had a depersonalization/de realization mental breakdown. I ended up in the hospital because I felt crazy and unreal. I cant even begin to try to explain it to others that haven't gone through it. I wanted to die and go to sleep, but I couldn't even escape to sleep because I couldn't fall asleep. Its like you're on coke or meth and haven't slept for days, but you cant sleep. I would hear strange things but I knew it wasn't real, I felt like I was in a wrong body or something. I didn't want to move or get up. The fing anxiety was ridiculous. I couldn't go anywhere because I would have a major anxiety attack. They put me on benzos. I was warned about them and weaned myself off 8 months after I started. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But im so glad I did. Its been 3 years and I'm not completely better. It took me over a year to become somewhat functional. I know you have the strength, you've come this far. You owe it to yourself to get off benzos.
well I was on 1mg of clonazepam. it worked wonders. I had anxiety so much I couldn't leave the house. even visited the E.R false alarms. now I'm out and my Dr is reluctant to keep me on it.
hi noah, I'm on clonazepam 0.5 mg I don't take it often as I did. I used too everyday with lexapro when I needed to get used to lexapro. I was on Lexapro for a year and a half for anxiety and dp/dr of a drug induced attack from pot. I went from 20mg to 10 to 5 and now I am on my 10th day withdrawing off of lexapro. It wasn't helping me. I noticed my dp and dr stay the same. personality changes that I did not like and my brain feels like mush. about a month ago I was diagnosed with crps also called rsd. (chronic regional pain syndrome). they wanted to put me on lyrica tried it once and horrible side effects. not sure if being on Lexapro made that happen with lyrica. Now for my dp dr they wanted me to try ablify I'm very scared to go on that because I don't want to become addicted to another medicine. once the Lyrica wasn't helping with the chronical regional pain syndrome I got introduced to he then introduced me to klonopin again. my psychiatrist is completely against it because it's very addictive and it's not like I crave it but I always have to have it on me so now I'm trying to look for natural substances to help my withdrawal symptoms in the brain zaps and vivid dreams and going through and still to help ease my depersonalization derealization this is the third year I'm suffering from. any advice would be very helpful.
I don't get what the deal with using benzos as prescribed is? I take them daily as prescribed and have no problem at all. .25 AM and .25 PM of Klonopin. 2 different doctors have said this is completely safe.
I had doctors tell me the same thing. After 15 years I am disabled because of them. I took them less than prescribed. I didn’t have any problems with them for 13 of those years, then it all fell apart. My advice to you is get off them now and figure out how to cope without them. Don’t think they can’t bite you too.
Bro if your still struggling with this, get you some high CBD weed. I use to take Xanax daily, addicted. Now I take as needed, can go days without and have no issues. No more Xanax also. Some people say it's easier to come off something like klonopin but I disagree, I think lorazepam is much easier to come off of. Good luck.
I was on 0.25 mg daily for 2 years. I decided to taper off last April. Took me 2 months. I got to where I was taking .0625mg every other day, then every third day. Eventually I came off completely which was VERY difficult. Hopefully you have a good support group/supportive friends. I, like you, needed to have it as a security blanket. After coming off completely, I continued to carry a bottle around with me wherever I went. Then, after a couple months, I moved to a different state and one day realized "holy shiz," I left my kpins 2500 miles away and I don't have an MD to write me a new script. All turned out OK though. I'm still bento free--not anxiety free :( You can do it man. I made out a calendar with my taper plan and stuck too it. Might help.
I've never kicked benzos; I don't know how they feel to get off of but have heard can be dangerous if done cold turkey. I have however kicked opiates cold so many fucking times and its pure misery. I've been clean a bit over 5 years. This is the first one of your videos I've seen. I hope you can get through your benzo addiction man, best of luck to you with this.
Just came across your video. I'm taking 3mg of clon a day and I'm 18 weeks pregnant and I'm now being told strongly to wein off of it. I'm scared. I find inspiration in you and will find other channels that will bring me hope. Hope you're still doing well. :)
hey dude, I'm 28 been drinking for almost 10 years now, i feel your pain, not a benzo addict but definitely an alcoholic, i need help, im tired of the anxiety, tired of the pain, ready to feel normal again, i have to drink to feel normal, breath normal, i deal with the anxiety up until i can't breath right.....and i have to drink!!!!!! both my parents are alcoholics, one functioning "my dad", "he still works" the other my mom but she stays at home and is retired... I'm kind of a frequent flyer in and out of hospitals with no insurance!!!!! any tips or ideas
That sucks bro. I had a nasty pain killer addiction in the mid 2000's. Been clean for years. I'm really happy I kicked that shit before the Fentanyl was big around here.
I don't blame you the withdrawals are hell I would be scared to hope you can let go give it a try for a week or 2 and see how you feel good luck and god bless David .🙌
I love that even with what you have been through and deal with, you have such a great personality. you made me laugh a few times, stay goofy it's awesome and God bless you!!
There is still NO REASON for you to stop......the effort to quit is making you more anxious while the benzos are helping you. Get to a low dose that works and stay there......
This will lead to tolerance withdrawal. Your advice is dangerous. You will develop a tolerance and you need to increase your dosage more and more with benzos.Benzos have never been developed for long-term usage.
Then the tolerance builds up, so he will need more and more every let's say 6 months, then suddently the benzo stops working, and there you are, totally addicted to benzos that are doing 0 for your anxiety, also withdrawal symptoms all day long even while taking the dose. Good luck trying to quit that after a couple of years.
Hey Noah a few months ago you talked about taking HCG injections along with your TRT. You also have talked about maybe having a child and I know the longer your on TRT the harder it will be. Any updates on the HCG would be great thanks.
Stay on 6 months stay off 3 months. You don’t want to be dependent on anything over 6 ... follow thru with that can’t hurt to see how it goes.. Good Luck 🍀
I have been on Clonopin for about seven or eight years straight every single day a milligram and a half… My doctor is slowly starting to taper me and I am at about 1 mg and I can already notice it… Believe me that little bit is helping you because the with drawl is absolutely horrible I’m sure you know. It is Worse than or just as bad as heroin withdrawal… I am scared to death I don’t wanna go through this but I feel like my doctor is kind of making me I’m just not ready to stop because I don’t want to go to this hell. and it last a long time.. months
Good to hear from you. Noah, do what works for you; only you & your MDs can decide course of action. We're all here learning and supporting; everyone's path is different ... your videos help us in different ways. One thing is common though, we're all trying to press forward as best we can. Wishing you and everyone here a most peaceful New Year ... one day at a time ✌
My doctor prescribed this medication to me at 0.5 mg years ago. It helped a lot with what I was going through at the time. It was in combination with Effexor though so who knows what was doing what. These meds... I don't know anymore.
I have a difficulty quitting lunesta. I was taking 12 mg 4 days a week last week. I'm trying to taper off. It's addictive as well. I'd love to take a pill tonight but I can't. I have to cut down to 9 mg this week.
Hey . i just wanted to let you know your drinking problem will turn to shit soon if you continue drinking like that. I was off for 4 months before this christmas(not my longest period sober) on that day i took 2 glasses of beer and one 0.3 shot at my cousins house. when i was going home i bought 2 l of vine and 1l of bourbon that was finished by the end of the next day. From that day till new year i was drunk every day(dead drunk). on 1.st. of 2017 i was on step 1 . i am sober for 8 days now .... and i wish every day that i could drink a beer without going full blown alchoholic . I hope you are gonna cut back on your drinking at least a little bit . once you go completely off the rails you have to forget alcohol or forget everything else and that is hard.
I'm 6/4, 280 and these little things dropped me on my #$%@. Hardest thing I have ever done in my life was to get off of, and I was not even on them that long. Thought I could just stop c/t from 1mg and boy was I wrong! I thought I went insane and had no idea it was withdrawl. I had reinstate, and then taper 1 mg over 6 months and I'm 15 days off and still hurting. My last dose was .08 MG using a liquid tapering method. I have a whole new respect for benzos. An experience that I will never forget.
Hi.. I take .5 of klonopin maybe once every 1-2 weeks. I told myself that (psychological) that will get me through the week.. it really helps to stay busy. I kinda scared myself with the googling withdrawal symptoms. I know everyone is different.. some may need more or something different. I felt the same way as you? I keep the clonazepam as a "break glass in case of emergency" type of help. best of luck to you, Happy New Year😉✌
I am the same anxiety depression it's like a mirror of myself I have been on clonazepam for a year and a half 1.5 mg x3 a day when a doctor has cut it by 1 mg I get disorientated and anxiety comes back worse than it was before a nurse said to me if you just stop taking them the withdrawal is worse than heroine I have the same problem as you with hypogonaism just been started on testogel I had to keep nagging to get it and going to be referred to a specialist I may ask for injections as I am used to needles having type 1 diabetes I want to hit the gym and see if that and trt helps my mood and self esteem
I have used clonazepam and other benzo's regularly for depression and chronic pain for 13 years. I was very scared of becoming addicted to them when I first started taking them so much so that I flushed about 60 of them down the toilet one day. Then a few days later called my doctor and told her what happened and she was very understanding and gave me another prescription. I've gone through many withdrawals from benzo's unnecessarily because I didn't understand how to ween myself of them properly. I would forget to take them or run out and suffer the consequences. And yes it is a pretty awful experience. These days I know better. I take them when I need them and they are a god send. When I don't need them I taper my use, usually with at written out plan on my calander and If I do it properly feel very little or no withdrawal. Perhaps I am lucky because I don't have any psychological addiction to benzo's. Once I'm off them and don't need them I don't think about the or crave them in any way. I am sure this is not the case with everybody. I have no fear of using benzo's for my issues. Perhaps I am lucky this way. I have gone from using 10 to 15 milligrams of clonazepam a day to no clonazepam in 2 months weening myself down without feeling much in the way of withdrawal. That's my story
Maybe try cutting it down slower rather than just stopping now. It doesn't do anything when I take it but it does if I don't. I also was prescribed a high dose 14 years ago. I am shocked at how much it affects me still at a lower dose. If you just stay on it it's just feeding the dependency and if you become more tolerant and dependent the withdrawal will be harder. It's great that you are not having any withdrawal symptoms right now. That is a good sign. I hope you can get off the drug soon
What about 2 days off 1 day on for a couple of weeks, then 3 days off 1 day on and so on. I will do that, i'm actually taking 0.125 ED, next week will do 1 day on 1 day off 0.125mg.
The thing that no doctor especially the prescribing one wishes to discuss is benzo's cause the GABA receptors to downgrade and the space they take up is used for some other use.When you stop the GABA receptors take a long long time to reform.I've been off benzo's for 18 months.It is the hardest battle I have had in my life.It is all uphill and progress is very slow.Here in the Uk some doctors have been sued for over prescribing.My doctor pulled me off them because I'd been on them for 2 decades he gave me 6 weeks to taper.If I have any advice is taper real slow because the nightmare doesn't start until the last dose is done.Stay off all stimulants caffeine etc.It's only been in the last month I've been able to take small amounts of cannabis which has helped with the original problem I took the benzo for.Go here survivingantidepressants.org/ for help they have a section for benzo's.This is a valuable peer help resource it helped me no end.Doctors will not help you unless they have been through it themselves.Peace good luck.
Yes..letting go is a scary thing. I was on Ativan for a long time and had to finally let go of using it as a security blanket. Benzos are really difficult to give up but I did it and so will you.
I’m going through the exact same thing, I’ve been on diazepam for nearly 4 weeks and the past week I cut down to 1mg which is a very low dosage for diazepam. I don’t get withdrawal symptoms other than the fact that I can’t sleep without it. It’s more of a mental thing than anything else
Some days when withdrawals are hell I wonder if this benzo detox journey will ever end. When I get to that low of a dose I might jump off. 8 months in benzo wd's will kick your butt but wake you up to true reality. It has me & I estimate 10 more months! Benzos made me a monster. I'm now at peace with my past & myself. Congrats on your progress! You are an inspiration!
HUGS you go Noah! 😎 I made ONE resolution for my new year, STAY ALIVE. It may sound stupid, but I was suicidal a LOT last year. Here's hoping for a better year 🎬
I have never understood why people feel the need to get off such a low dose of benzos! Why? If you were popping 5 mgs, 3 times a day..then yeah. If it helps you (even if it's all in your mind), so be it. I'm sure withdrawal can be horrible, but the obvious answer is don't stop and you won't go through withdrawal. Just don't mix with alcohol or other drugs, and you're good.
No, your not good. Benzos can cause damage at even low doses. Were talking damage to your central nervous system...before you even start to taper off.
I agree totally with Tony. Take the pill if it helps you. All these negative stories on benzos make me sick. I would rather take benzos than live with horrible daily anxiety!!
People also don’t talk about the extreme toll anxiety and stress has on the body. It is an unacceptable way to live and people who try to make others feel less than for needing benzos are very damaging to people who’s lives could be drastically improved.
kick that shit bro I've been watching you for awhile and your stronger than this
let go man. you are on test so it might not be good for you. focus on your exercise, life, friends, girl, job, etc. my friend was so addicted that i hate pills, she was also a medical marijuana card holder. Honestly seeing her withdraw on pharmaceuticals pills pissed me off. They have strong herb for anxiety and even depression. im an advocate for medical marijuana, planning on studying botany and its medical effects. im not saying its for everyone, but i have seen the worst in pills that i plan never to touch them. good luck on your journey man you have been inspiring to me on my alcohol abuse, and to come off that nasty shit. planning on getting a card as well because it actually helps me not think about drinking.stay strong man and know that you have people you inspire. god bless
I'm going through klonopin withdrawal now. The worst part is insomnia.
back story on myself, 2010 i had a panic/ derealization attack, drs diagnosed me having alcohol withdrawls not a panic/derealization episode. i drank a few 40s a day, smoked weed, so in my mind at that time i bought it. they prescribed me ativan. ok. give benzos to a person who drinks alot/ smoked alot of grass. took it until prescription was gone. got terrible uncontrollable shakes. another dr said you cant just stop taking it. im like well thanks other docs for telling me. got addicted to it went from 215 lbs to 155 lbs. i didnt drink or smoke for over a year. had a crazy roller coaster ride that year. i met my wife that year she helped me through, tapered myself off of it. i still have episodes, found your channel a long while back and ive felt in a way what you've felt. good to not be alone with what ive experienced/still experience. i still drink beer having a hard time kicking it. im here with you, without each other we're nothing.
Thx for your honesty. We have allot in common.
Bignoknow. Hey brother I have been through what you have been through and I know its not easy, but bro you are literally almost there and I believe that you can stop if "you" really want to. You are on such a low dose and I think if you can go a day in between then you are literally right there. That's the thing though that it really comes down to you really wanting to stop or not. Trust me bro I have had seizures coming off of benzos and you are at the point where the risk of seizure is very small. You are only prolonging everything by continuing to take them and the doctors don't really care if you get off of them or not and they will continue to give them to you as long as you want. If you really want to stop try going 3 days without it and if you don't have any w/d from that you are in the clear and can get off of them. The hard part of benzo w/d is the seizure risk and the twitching and muscle jerking and the lack of sleep. If you are able to sleep without them then you are fine and its really battling the mental part at this point. Just remember, you are the only one that can decide whether you want to stop and if you can go more than A day without w/d then why even take them? Also if you deal with bad anxiety like I do then the pills will only compound your problem in the long run and getting off of them actually helped with my anxiety after a couple months. I've gotten into yoga, eating healthy, and exercise after getting off of them and I feel better now than I ever have and I used to have debilitating anxiety and would have anxiety attacks multiple times a day and sometimes I would even faint or get severe chest pain. I've been off benzos for 22 months and I feel better than I ever have in my life.
Okay, disclaimer... I am only offering my opinion here. In my opinion, if you are taking the pill because being without it gives you withdrawal and you are being monitored by your doctor that is a far cry from addiction. Perhaps I am wrong but to me it would be addict behavior if you took it for the high/way it makes you feel.
That being said, I'm proud of you for having the courage to say that you need it and being honest with your doctor.
Hugs and Happy new year.
Good luck man. Took me a good 6 months to feel any better after stopping Xanax/Valium but i am slowly recovering. Keep up the great work man
What works ALOT for long timer benzo users in my opinion is to just keep it in your pocket. Knowing that it is there is often times enough to keep your anxiety down and prevent a panic attack.
benzos aren't just for anxiety. they are often used for something called spaticity that people with arachnoiditis or other spinal cord injures suffer from.
Does klonopin cause DEPRESSION....because I take 1 mg at night and wake up SO depressed that I can't get out of bed....the reason I take it is that I can't sleep naturally.....and then I take 2 little klonopin 0.125 under the tongue in the day....but I am so depressed....HELP!!! and does it cause Agoraphobia.....I can't drive to the store anymore lost all self confidence......and what do I take to sleep naturally....I have tried herbs, magnesium and nothing works.
I am down to 1mg of Valium every 5 days and still can't let go. I tapered from 4mg of Xanax daily. It's taken 7 months to get this far. I understand completely.
I'm going through it. I'm weaning off. but I feel like i can't ever get off them but who knows one day I will or just take a small amount to just tease my brain :) it's a lose lose situation or could be a win-lose situation
Marilyn Bahoura Did u get off?
Dude you definitely psyched yourself out due to your past addiction issues. You were so fearfull of getting addicted to something that could be addictive, and you have convinced yourself you are addicted. I take a clonazapam whenever I know Im going to be in a stressful situation (Flying somewhere, chrismas shopping, holiday dinners, gatherings with lots of people). Just use it as a PRN.
Ive had extreme anxiety for about 16 years now. I was so consumed with it, that it was like my 2nd full time job. I just recently asked my doc to include testing for testosterone, and surprise, its low. That's why I starting watching this channel.
Ive decided that its time for me to control the anxiety instead of it controlling me. It feels good to take my life back.
I'm currently micro tapering from 60mg of Valium down to 18.75mg over 3 years. Still have a ways to go. Like you, I do not feel anything when I take it but def will if I do not. The letting go part...security blanket like you said. I don't want this crap in my body anymore but I'm scared to be getting lower and lower just because it's all I've known for 15 years. What if I go back to how I was, what if I'm worse, what if what if, etc. I'm over here rooting for you and maybe you can just go really slow over the course of some time and keep going lower and lower. Might not be such a shock mentally. Positive thoughts your way!
Miss Jenn how r u now
hey....i was on 2mg of kalonopin 3xper day for about 1.5 years after a massive life trauma. i got 1 script of busbpuron prescribed to me and literally started weaning myself off tiny piece by tiny piece. then spent nearly 6 months freaking out, nervously picking my face and basically being in shock. i would guess this is primarily due to the nature of why i started taking it in the first place. its been 4 years since ive been off benzos and i promise you....the pills are so helpful. even for bad days in general.... but until you get it out of your system and learn to cope with whatever issues you are dealing with in nonprescription ways it will always be a crutch and a weakness....a government issued addiction and physical/mental need. i would definitely let go of this phase of your life because it holds you back more than you know. praying for you and will be thinking of you on your journey....just remember that the choice is still yours. once you decide to stop, nothing will get in your way....but if i can do it....you can TOTALLY DO IT!!!
You really do seem like a good person and if there is anything I can answer for you please feel free to ask and I will answer to the best of my ability and if I don't know for sure I will let you know that I'm not too sure rather than making something up. The struggle is real and I found its best to talk to people that have been through it like me
I recently ran out and wow , it affected my whole body ! I couldn't eat anything and volts if electric shocks ran through my body , the upside I lost weight and realized I must be very careful with my script .
I am tapering and now in half of what I used to be . The truth , they make me feel great 😥
Brother, please just get off the benzos. Being dependent on benzos is the last thing you want if youre having problems with anxiety or depression. Benso withdrawals can last you up to YEARS if youve been taking them for a while. Just think about it. Heroin withdrawals last you like a week or so and you are fine, benso are often worse than heroin withdrawals and bensos can also kill you during the withdrawal.
You are on such a low dose now, its the perfect time to stop taking them. Doesnt it feel good just the fact that you dont have any drugs in your system? Thats how i felt atleast.
Agreed. If you are sensitive soul who is also creative but prone to anxiety/panic attacks/depression, benzos are the worst thing to take. I'd rather be tapering from anything else, honestly. This stuff is hell on Earth.
heroin withdrawals last longer than a week, or even a few at that depending on how hard you use.
Okay, maybe it was dumb to compare it to heroin, or another drug for that sake.
I talked to a couple of heroin addicts when i was at the hospital for benzo withdrawal, and they pretty much said the same thing as i have been hearing before, that bensos can be like an opiate withdrawal or even worse because of the time it takes for you to heal. One of them said it takes him about a week of hell and then its pretty much a fast recovery from there.
But then again, everyone is different. People doesnt have the same using habits etc. So i agree it was kinda stupid to compare benzos to heroin, but it can give you a perspective on how bad these prescribed medicines (that people often think is pretty harmless for you) really are. Atleast it did for me, when heroin addicts were concerned about me.
+Mr Free You said that you taper benzos right now. Do you taper opiates aswell? Have you tried go cold turkey on both of these? Im not saying you are wrong, im just curious about why people think so different about it.
Anyways, hope youre doing alright :)
Heroin withdrawal typically lasts 5 to 10 days as it's a short acting opioid, the peak of the withdrawal is usually on the 2 and 3rd days. If you're injecting or using very large doses it just makes it a more intense physical withdrawal rather than a more protracted one. Of course the psychological cravings are a different matter, but with regards to the physical dependancy if the user has no other health issues & is in reasonable good health they will start to feel pretty good after a week. Other longer lasting opioids i.e. methadone, the withdrawals are twice that of heroin and far more unpleasant, try not sleeping for 2 weeks, you have to deal with psychosis as well as all the other horrible physical withdrawals.
Of course the deeper someone is into their addiction the worse these withdrawals get, much easier to kick after 6 months of using rather than trying kick for the fortieth time after 20 years of using.
Hey baby, as always, I have so much respect for your honesty and willingness to be transparent....just want to say....loved that you thanked your mama before your daddy....lol...
Love you to bits!😍
Hey, I'm tapering Klonopin doing a micro liquid taper and been doing so much better since I switched. 0.125mg of K is the equivalent of 2.5mg of Valium and I don't think it's safe to come off. I'm going to take my taper all the way dow to zero which is next weeks Wednesday. Best of luck to you.
"You might as well be sprinkling them on your head" LMAO
Please read the Ashton Manual if you get a chance. What you're experiencing is not psychosomatic. Your brain/body are healing from extreme neurotoxicity caused by clonazepam. It affects your GABA receptors & wreaks havoc in your brain.
Go at your own rate. You actually increase your chances of having a successful taper by going slower & more steadily. We're all biochemically different yet the symptoms are v. similar.
Really glad you were able to come down to the dose you're at presently- that's no small feat. Thanks for posting the video:)
Thanks as always Noah for being brave enough to share. For me, I had to switch to valium when tapering off because it had a much longer half life, and that made it far smoother (although not symptom free, it was still uncomfortable) to get off of benzos over the course of a month.
Clonazepam has a long half life if you don't already know so thats whats probably getting you thru the stretches of the days in between. I would continue with the taper brother to get off as soon as you can and just being completely honest with you because ive done what your doing to maintain my life, work etc so i do understand you at the same time. Most important thing is to take your time with the taper when your ready and try not to regress. Peace
Rocklyn Williams
12 hr half life.
Thanks for your honesty
looking back at my subscription feed, I remembered that I thought the thumbnail was an ice cream cone. lol. liked your video as always
I can see it fine on my phone, laptop must not have enough resolution
Letting go of something that we think is working even when it's something we want to stop taking or doing is so hard. I sure get what you're talking about. Appreciate your channel and for knowing that I too am not alone.
what's up dude. first, thanks for the videos. 2nd, don't put the extra pressure of "failing" us on yourself. we are all now or have been in a similar situation which is why we watch. 3rd, I went through that final .125mg taper. my psychiatrist basically said at that point it's more of a sugar pill then a medication. Yet, when I gave up that last little bit.... wow!!! it was a ride. if the effects of that small amount is just in our head, it's a habit that's hard to break. I'm off of them now for 6 months. I'm still trying to get it together but I don't have the need for them. there are times I want to jump back on them but I use different coping skills to get past it. let me say this, what I'm doing is working for me. may not work for the next person. but it slowly is getting better. keep up the good work and don't worry about how you look to us. cause you put yourself out there and we don't. just words not invite to our personal life
I Cold turkey quit klonopin 3 years ago. Took me two full years to get better. Just pure torture and absolute hell. Best of luck to you with your micro tapering.
kinda have been on the same boat. Been on benzo for 2 years, tapered, and like you, I hesitated on jumping off the last very low dose. Gave it a try on new years day. Still doing great! Give it a shot. Worst case scenario you can always take a step back. Don't be too hard on yourself. Wish you good luck x
im on 4mg klonopin daily been on them for 24 years ink what to do can't get off them and still always in a panic
Before I moved to United States i was addicted to this medicine and i used to see my drug dealer more than my family and one day i bet my friend that i can pop 10 pills !! Each one has 2mg.. i end locked up in jail for harming mysef with knife in front of 20 cops by the police department. Now its been three years and im clean but still suffering from side effect like memory or judgment, depression, anxiety, confusion 😣
U know it's not shameful to take medication! That being said, I think you know you can do it. U know that the first couple days after stopping will be anxiety filled. But u also know it will pass
Dude.. Your videos are beyond inspirational. So Sorry to hit you with a novel man but just had to express my appreciation. You've been through the hell. I can totally relate to all your struggles. For the last few months, November to be exact, I've decided to taper off Paxil that I've been on for 15 years. Through these last few months, I've never experienced something so incredibly hard in my entire life. Started with the tapering plus adding another, Clomipramine, to see if the problem was with Paxil. Got off Paxil and went through the withdrawals/discontinuation symptoms but the whole time adjusting to new med i guess. I've honestly never known hell like that, ever. Well turns out Clomipramine didn't do a single thing for MY anxiety. I gave it a good 2 months but had some heavy side effects. I've had to start taking Xanax pretty much single the heavy withdrawals hit around middle of December when i was coming off one and starting the other. Never had i had to depend on something so consistently but as you know the hell, what the hell else is there when you're in that state? Cut to now, Clomipramine never did anything and i still had to rely on Xanax so i needed to get off that also. About 12 days into that now and the hell coming off this is incredibly worse than the Paxil, which I'm guessing is because i don't have another antidepressant to help with it. So that's two different withdrawals in a 3 month period. I'm chewed lol. You know this exactly. I can't describe how great it is to feel the intensity of my good and sometimes bad feelings again though but the anxiety is still too wicked. Mostly I'm on the Clonazepam at least once a day, 0.5mg. I don't want to go on another antidepressant ever again, unless i had no choice but i feel like there is hope with the anxiety/panic, which is my basis of all of this. Like you, I obsess about the thought of maybe being addicted to Clonazepam now and don't want to have to deal with that. I just want to drink some beers with friends and all that and scared to do that with having to take this everyday. I completely apologize for this heavy novel but just wondering if you could help with some incite. Do you think I'm still in the withdrawals? Do you think its possible to be addicted to that now? Just hits too heavy man lol. Hey, either way, your vids inspire and give hope to so many people and I'm one of them. Keep up the wicked stuff!!
Taper! I've been tapering for well over a year and it still hits me like a ton of bricks when I go down for the next week or two. Benzos are scary and some people are hyper sensitive to them. I know I am. You do you but don't shame yourself if you need to do it slowly and over a long stretch of time. Read up on Clonazepam WD and side effects so you know what is going to happen and how you wants to go about kicking the addiction.
Jess Haggerty Taper is the key... I got to the point where I would shave off micro amounts at the end. its crazy how the amount of it the size of a grain of salt can effect someone. I too am very sensitive to drugs.
What do you do for anxiety when you can't reach for a clonaz?
I am thankful for your videos. I recently had to be hospitalized and diagnosed with PTSD with MDD. That was a nightmare, not a good facility, caused more trauma, but thankfully no longer having night terrors from it. I have been on benzos 10 plus years. I honestly don't think I can get off them. Now my psychiatrist I have been with 10+ years is closing his practice. Major anxiety, as I trust no other. Help....
I am thankful for it. I stopped using it for some months and now I am back on. I am not addicted I am very sure but I need them to leave my house. Well them and my other meds. I will be on for the long haul.
The withdrawal for me became the most intense for me at about 2 weeks off completely. One thing you should definitely stay away from for awhile after you're completely off is alcohol. I messed with alcohol during withdrawal and it made it much more intense. The gaba receptors need time to heal so alcohol kind of messes that up.
Your not failing us!!! You inspire me bc u are so honest 😊🎉
Zanax has saved my life. I don't like being on it...my psy wanted to transfer to Konipin, but it did not work. Zanax makes me sleepy and takes me away for a while. What is really sad about my situation is I have a doctorate in my field, wiht passion for it and I can't even work!
I very much want to work and was very good at what I did. Now I'm not worth much to this world. unfornaturaly.
Here's the way I look at it.. if you are upset and beating yourself up then just keep working on not taking it. If you can manage taking .125 without going up in dose then there's no problem with that. I don't see any physical differences and it still helps you... well shit sounds ok to me
ive come off klonopin as of late after 12 years. im pretty sure im experiencing extreme dp/dr. that's how i found your videos. at the moment i dont see what im experiencing actually going away. im experiencing such an awareness of my existence that i dont see ever not feeling this way again.
Same. Did your DP/DR ever go away?
@@rebelbeaute1441 to a large degree yes. I think a lot of the experience is due to the absence of whatever chemical is used to keep you calm, both natural in your brain and/or the medication you stop taking.
Now when the feeling of hyper awareness comes, I understand that it is due to a disorder (anxiety, PTSD) and when my brain decides that it is safe or decides to release it's natural antianxiety chemical (I don't remember what that is) the feeling will go away for the most part.
I think the biggest impact I had on the effect of benzo withdrawal was giving my brain constant proof that I was safe and secure.
It may sound funny, but long pampering bubble baths, stretch routines, exercise and self talk when you're in a hyper aware or hyper anxious state as if you are trying to comfort a child (because after all what is a toddler if not a big ball of walking unchecked emotions).
I do indeed refer to the anger, fear, sadness anxiety as "the toddler in my head", actually.
It's unrealistic to think someday in the future that your anxiety will never be a problem. I still very much have anxiety. But the ridiculously high amount you may be experiencing now WILL LOWER SIGNIFICANTLY with time spent on proving to your mind that there's not nearly as much of this mechanism needed as is being provided.
Take care of yourself, pamper yourself, And challenge yourself while speaking to those fearful feelings as they need to be held and comforted while you experience the ordeal.
Also go at your own pace. Good luck.
@@rebelbeaute1441 PS I still do these things constantly ❤️
I just want to run this by somebody to make sure I’m not being deluded. I’m taking 1mg per day Klonopin. My thing is I’m leaving my house. I’m being social and hanging out with friends again, and I feel like I’m finally having a life and I’m not missing out. That just means so much to me. Waking up and having a normal day. Not waking up and fighting through a day of misery. Knowing full well tomorrow will be the same. Those closest to me say there’s a noticeable difference and are so happy I’m finally having a normal life.
I for whatever reason don’t experience a tolerance to benzodiazepines. I’ve been off and on Xanax because I couldn’t make up my mind and kept wanting to compare life on it vs life off it. So 1 year on one year off. The withdrawal is real and does suck, but for me it presents itself as grumpy for a month. And it haunts me a bit knowing I’m essentially willing to become a slave to a chemical. And I’m fully aware the potential for brain damage, dementia, etc.
Am I lying to myself if I think the benefits genuinely outweigh the risk. And I’ve had 3 separate psychs agree. Idk, it’s just a hard choice. But I’ve been through the whole rainbow for anxiety and schizoaffective. Don’t get me wrong Seroquel and Limictal help and they’re great. But benzodiazepines make the difference.
Hey Noah.. I am watching this now in 2023, lol. I am down to .125 daily, and I am asking the same questions as you once were. Are you off the klonopin now (if you don't mind me asking)? I've been on klonpin for almost 5 months, and i want off. My psychiatrist has me on a 10 week or so taper so far, and im down to .125, and I haven't really felt anything, to be honest. I was first prescribed 2 mg each day back in Aug 2022 and 4 weeks later. I was told i dont need it, so i got off it. That week, i was off it was crazy. :( 🤔(I got down to .25 at that point, it was Sept 31st or Oct 1st that my husband gave me .25 due to my panicking. I am back on and startrd at 0.75. I'm proud i didn't go back up to even 1 mg. How was withdrawal? If u had any, please let me know! Thank you! As I said I went from 0.75 now down to 0.125 in about 10 weeks or so. Please anwser me.
Brother .5 mg is not that bad I have been on this shit for more than 5 year 2 mg a day and I've tried to let go. Till my doctor says u can't , if you wanna quit is a process. Let me tell you I've been to hell and back with this disorder , and I know most of the ppl here has too, but pls let me know how you get as low as .5 mg a day. I would really like to know ,is hard specially when ppl around are skeptical when you open yourself to them .
Hey NoNo! I've missed you! Couldn't figure out how to getup "old page" back. Finally!! Good to see you!
Oh my god ... your story is mine. I have clinical depression and will have to be on meds for the rest of my life. Three years ago I started seeing a different Dr that decided to change that diagnosis to bipolar... even though I don't exhibit any of the symptoms of bp. She abruptly switched my zoloft to some crazy medication for bipolar, and that's when my life plummeted into complete and utter despair. I had a depersonalization/de realization mental breakdown. I ended up in the hospital because I felt crazy and unreal. I cant even begin to try to explain it to others that haven't gone through it. I wanted to die and go to sleep, but I couldn't even escape to sleep because I couldn't fall asleep. Its like you're on coke or meth and haven't slept for days, but you cant sleep. I would hear strange things but I knew it wasn't real, I felt like I was in a wrong body or something. I didn't want to move or get up. The fing anxiety was ridiculous. I couldn't go anywhere because I would have a major anxiety attack. They put me on benzos. I was warned about them and weaned myself off 8 months after I started. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But im so glad I did. Its been 3 years and I'm not completely better. It took me over a year to become somewhat functional. I know you have the strength, you've come this far. You owe it to yourself to get off benzos.
well I was on 1mg of clonazepam. it worked wonders. I had anxiety so much I couldn't leave the house. even visited the E.R false alarms. now I'm out and my Dr is reluctant to keep me on it.
hi noah, I'm on clonazepam 0.5 mg I don't take it often as I did. I used too everyday with lexapro when I needed to get used to lexapro. I was on Lexapro for a year and a half for anxiety and dp/dr of a drug induced attack from pot. I went from 20mg to 10 to 5 and now I am on my 10th day withdrawing off of lexapro. It wasn't helping me. I noticed my dp and dr stay the same. personality changes that I did not like and my brain feels like mush. about a month ago I was diagnosed with crps also called rsd. (chronic regional pain syndrome). they wanted to put me on lyrica tried it once and horrible side effects. not sure if being on Lexapro made that happen with lyrica. Now for my dp dr they wanted me to try ablify I'm very scared to go on that because I don't want to become addicted to another medicine. once the Lyrica wasn't helping with the chronical regional pain syndrome I got introduced to he then introduced me to klonopin again. my psychiatrist is completely against it because it's very addictive and it's not like I crave it but I always have to have it on me so now I'm trying to look for natural substances to help my withdrawal symptoms in the brain zaps and vivid dreams and going through and still to help ease my depersonalization derealization this is the third year I'm suffering from. any advice would be very helpful.
Only advice is to stay brave and keep going. So sorry for your struggle and don't settle for anything but sound mental health.
I don't get what the deal with using benzos as prescribed is? I take them daily as prescribed and have no problem at all. .25 AM and .25 PM of Klonopin. 2 different doctors have said this is completely safe.
I had doctors tell me the same thing. After 15 years I am disabled because of them. I took them less than prescribed. I didn’t have any problems with them for 13 of those years, then it all fell apart.
My advice to you is get off them now and figure out how to cope without them. Don’t think they can’t bite you too.
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Bro if your still struggling with this, get you some high CBD weed. I use to take Xanax daily, addicted. Now I take as needed, can go days without and have no issues. No more Xanax also. Some people say it's easier to come off something like klonopin but I disagree, I think lorazepam is much easier to come off of. Good luck.
You're doing better than U realize. Please don't beat up on yourself! One Breath @ a time😌👍🏾💯🥀🌱⛰🐚🦋
I just got prescribed klonopin today almost got Xanax but she said she wants to try klonopin first
I was on 0.25 mg daily for 2 years. I decided to taper off last April. Took me 2 months. I got to where I was taking .0625mg every other day, then every third day. Eventually I came off completely which was VERY difficult. Hopefully you have a good support group/supportive friends. I, like you, needed to have it as a security blanket. After coming off completely, I continued to carry a bottle around with me wherever I went. Then, after a couple months, I moved to a different state and one day realized "holy shiz," I left my kpins 2500 miles away and I don't have an MD to write me a new script. All turned out OK though. I'm still bento free--not anxiety free :( You can do it man.
I made out a calendar with my taper plan and stuck too it. Might help.
How are you now? Was your anxiety worse on the K or now that you are off?
I've never kicked benzos; I don't know how they feel to get off of but have heard can be dangerous if done cold turkey. I have however kicked opiates cold so many fucking times and its pure misery. I've been clean a bit over 5 years. This is the first one of your videos I've seen. I hope you can get through your benzo addiction man, best of luck to you with this.
Just came across your video. I'm taking 3mg of clon a day and I'm 18 weeks pregnant and I'm now being told strongly to wein off of it. I'm scared. I find inspiration in you and will find other channels that will bring me hope. Hope you're still doing well. :)
hey dude, I'm 28 been drinking for almost 10 years now, i feel your pain, not a benzo addict but definitely an alcoholic, i need help, im tired of the anxiety, tired of the pain, ready to feel normal again, i have to drink to feel normal, breath normal, i deal with the anxiety up until i can't breath right.....and i have to drink!!!!!! both my parents are alcoholics, one functioning "my dad", "he still works" the other my mom but she stays at home and is retired... I'm kind of a frequent flyer in and out of hospitals with no insurance!!!!! any tips or ideas
That sucks bro. I had a nasty pain killer addiction in the mid 2000's. Been clean for years. I'm really happy I kicked that shit before the Fentanyl was big around here.
I don't blame you the withdrawals are hell I would be scared to hope you can let go give it a try for a week or 2 and see how you feel good luck and god bless David .🙌
I love that even with what you have been through and deal with, you have such a great personality. you made me laugh a few times, stay goofy it's awesome and God bless you!!
Thank you NOAH! Your videos have helped me so so much. You the man!
There is still NO REASON for you to stop......the effort to quit is making you more anxious while the benzos are helping you. Get to a low dose that works and stay there......
let me know how early dementia is pally, stop advocating for big pharma
physchiatric meds are relatively new.
What is WRONG with you?? Yeah.... encourage the guy to stay on dangerous addictive drugs that should be illegal. Way to be an ass
This will lead to tolerance withdrawal. Your advice is dangerous. You will develop a tolerance and you need to increase your dosage more and more with benzos.Benzos have never been developed for long-term usage.
Then the tolerance builds up, so he will need more and more every let's say 6 months, then suddently the benzo stops working, and there you are, totally addicted to benzos that are doing 0 for your anxiety, also withdrawal symptoms all day long even while taking the dose. Good luck trying to quit that after a couple of years.
Hey Noah a few months ago you talked about taking HCG injections along with your TRT. You also have talked about maybe having a child and I know the longer your on TRT the harder it will be. Any updates on the HCG would be great thanks.
It's really hard to stop klonopin bcos u take it n the first place bcos u experienced.. Hard to breath and u r like having heart attack
you could always do a liquid taper... getting off those is a mind fu#k. If you are not having any withdrawal symptoms you are one of the lucky ones
Stay on 6 months stay off 3 months. You don’t want to be dependent on anything over 6 ... follow thru with that can’t hurt to see how it goes.. Good Luck 🍀
Today at 4pm,I just took my first clonazepam 0.5mg pill to help me with anxiety.I just hope any pray this medication does actually work.
Thank you for the info. I have felt like I could never get to the point you are at. Now I have hope.
Ur videos are inspiring to me man. Ur honest keep up who u r
seem like a good dude i hope u get off these or are now off them! good luck to u an anyone struggling
I have been on Clonopin for about seven or eight years straight every single day a milligram and a half… My doctor is slowly starting to taper me and I am at about 1 mg and I can already notice it… Believe me that little bit is helping you because the with drawl is absolutely horrible I’m sure you know. It is Worse than or just as bad as heroin withdrawal… I am scared to death I don’t wanna go through this but I feel like my doctor is kind of making me I’m just not ready to stop because I don’t want to go to this hell. and it last a long time.. months
Man I appreciate you.
Dude I tapered off klonopin and ativan and it was horrible and am over 6 months off and still have slight withdrawals.
Hey Man I am taking clonazapem 0.5 mg so how can i stop it and hoe much duration with less withrawl symptoms
I had to check in to a rehab clinic to get off klonopin. It's way to hard to kick the habit alone.
Good to hear from you. Noah, do what works for you; only you & your MDs can decide course of action. We're all here learning and supporting; everyone's path is different ... your videos help us in different ways. One thing is common though, we're all trying to press forward as best we can. Wishing you and everyone here a most peaceful New Year ... one day at a time ✌
My doctor prescribed this medication to me at 0.5 mg years ago. It helped a lot with what I was going through at the time. It was in combination with Effexor though so who knows what was doing what. These meds... I don't know anymore.
I understand completely mate. I'm having the same issue but with methadone. The mind is a powerful thing, a powerful friend and a powerful enemy:/
I have a difficulty quitting lunesta. I was taking 12 mg 4 days a week last week. I'm trying to taper off. It's addictive as well. I'd love to take a pill tonight but I can't. I have to cut down to 9 mg this week.
I don't need alcohol anymore but I continue to get drunk a couple days a week... idk why it's just different without it
Hey . i just wanted to let you know your drinking problem will turn to shit soon if you continue drinking like that.
I was off for 4 months before this christmas(not my longest period sober) on that day i took 2 glasses of beer and one 0.3 shot at my cousins house. when i was going home i bought 2 l of vine and 1l of bourbon that was finished by the end of the next day. From that day till new year i was drunk every day(dead drunk).
on 1.st. of 2017 i was on step 1 . i am sober for 8 days now .... and i wish every day that i could drink a beer without going full blown alchoholic .
I hope you are gonna cut back on your drinking at least a little bit .
once you go completely off the rails you have to forget alcohol or forget everything else and that is hard.
I'm 6/4, 280 and these little things dropped me on my #$%@. Hardest thing I have ever done in my life was to get off of, and I was not even on them that long. Thought I could just stop c/t from 1mg and boy was I wrong! I thought I went insane and had no idea it was withdrawl. I had reinstate, and then taper 1 mg over 6 months and I'm 15 days off and still hurting. My last dose was .08 MG using a liquid tapering method. I have a whole new respect for benzos. An experience that I will never forget.
i take 2mg-4mg a day the withdrawls are so bad that makes you sick and its super bad panic attacks i got when i stopped and sweating etc anxeity
Hi.. I take .5 of klonopin maybe once every 1-2 weeks. I told myself that (psychological) that will get me through the week.. it really helps to stay busy. I kinda scared myself with the googling withdrawal symptoms. I know everyone is different.. some may need more or something different. I felt the same way as you? I keep the clonazepam as a "break glass in case of emergency" type of help.
best of luck to you, Happy New Year😉✌
I am the same anxiety depression it's like a mirror of myself I have been on clonazepam for a year and a half 1.5 mg x3 a day when a doctor has cut it by 1 mg I get disorientated and anxiety comes back worse than it was before a nurse said to me if you just stop taking them the withdrawal is worse than heroine I have the same problem as you with hypogonaism just been started on testogel I had to keep nagging to get it and going to be referred to a specialist I may ask for injections as I am used to needles having type 1 diabetes I want to hit the gym and see if that and trt helps my mood and self esteem
how is the mental health? are you pursuing plant medicine?
How are you doing on them right now?
I have used clonazepam and other benzo's regularly for depression and chronic pain for 13 years. I was very scared of becoming addicted to them when I first started taking them so much so that I flushed about 60 of them down the toilet one day. Then a few days later called my doctor and told her what happened and she was very understanding and gave me another prescription.
I've gone through many withdrawals from benzo's unnecessarily because I didn't understand how to ween myself of them properly. I would forget to take them or run out and suffer the consequences. And yes it is a pretty awful experience.
These days I know better. I take them when I need them and they are a god send. When I don't need them I taper my use, usually with at written out plan on my calander and If I do it properly feel very little or no withdrawal.
Perhaps I am lucky because I don't have any psychological addiction to benzo's. Once I'm off them and don't need them I don't think about the or crave them in any way. I am sure this is not the case with everybody. I have no fear of using benzo's for my issues. Perhaps I am lucky this way.
I have gone from using 10 to 15 milligrams of clonazepam a day to no clonazepam in 2 months weening myself down without feeling much in the way of withdrawal.
That's my story
This is exactly like my getting off of setraline! I can't seem to get off of 1/8 of my 100mg dose. Start feeling real sick if I do
Maybe try cutting it down slower rather than just stopping now. It doesn't do anything when I take it but it does if I don't. I also was prescribed a high dose 14 years ago. I am shocked at how much it affects me still at a lower dose. If you just stay on it it's just feeding the dependency and if you become more tolerant and dependent the withdrawal will be harder. It's great that you are not having any withdrawal symptoms right now. That is a good sign. I hope you can get off the drug soon
Hey Noah you can do it!
Where I can get Clonazepam?
What about 2 days off 1 day on for a couple of weeks, then 3 days off 1 day on and so on. I will do that, i'm actually taking 0.125 ED, next week will do 1 day on 1 day off 0.125mg.
The thing that no doctor especially the prescribing one wishes to discuss is benzo's cause the GABA receptors to downgrade and the space they take up is used for some other use.When you stop the GABA receptors take a long long time to reform.I've been off benzo's for 18 months.It is the hardest battle I have had in my life.It is all uphill and progress is very slow.Here in the Uk some doctors have been sued for over prescribing.My doctor pulled me off them because I'd been on them for 2 decades he gave me 6 weeks to taper.If I have any advice is taper real slow because the nightmare doesn't start until the last dose is done.Stay off all stimulants caffeine etc.It's only been in the last month I've been able to take small amounts of cannabis which has helped with the original problem I took the benzo for.Go here survivingantidepressants.org/ for help they have a section for benzo's.This is a valuable peer help resource it helped me no end.Doctors will not help you unless they have been through it themselves.Peace good luck.
Just quit mine a few days ago. Tired of feeling like a zombie, but my nerves are going haywire 😩
Yes..letting go is a scary thing. I was on Ativan for a long time and had to finally let go of using it as a security blanket. Benzos are really difficult to give up but I did it and so will you.
I’m going through the exact same thing, I’ve been on diazepam for nearly 4 weeks and the past week I cut down to 1mg which is a very low dosage for diazepam. I don’t get withdrawal symptoms other than the fact that I can’t sleep without it. It’s more of a mental thing than anything else
I got hooked on 4 months. was on .5 every night. overdosed and got cut cold turkey in the psych hospital. worst week of withdrawals in my life