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Everyone always talks about Vegeta's character development but no one ever talks about the Android twins. Although neither of them were really evil, still 17 turned from an arrogant and condescending jerk to a polite and reserved gentleman, and 18 turned from a bit of a cold and also slightly arrogant person to a lighthearted and playful young woman with a daughter of her own
That's not character development, though. We see none of what changed 17. One minute he's trying to kill Piccolo in an attempt to find and kill Goku, then next we see him he's a park ranger and has a family. They simply changed his character to fit the story. Vegeta's character changed BECAUSE of the story, and did so gradually, over 200+ episodes.
@@westy1637 you have a very good point. And to be fair to poor 17 he was “dead” technically for like forever lol until he was mentioned I forgot he was even confirmed alive in DBZ lol!
@@destinitaylor4360 when they revived all the people Cell killed, I'm pretty sure Piccolo and Krillin said that 17 was alive again too. Just never showed him or mentioned him until the spirit bomb to kill Buu was made
Bruh when this was still airing every week me and my friends would watch together. The hype was insane we were shouting, cheering, imitating characters, and just having a blast.
I remember when watching this, my jaw hit the floor when 17 stood up. Everyone knew they were trying to make us forget about Frieza by not including him in many of the episodes where Jiren and Goku fought. But NOBODY saw it coming when 17 stood up
Dude, SAME. I was genuinely stunned when 17 first appeared, since the show really went all the way in trying to convince us he was dead (even the Grand Priest assumed he died). I remember watching everyone else's reaction and reviews after that, and they all had the same reaction, lol. Like you said, everyone could see that they were trying to make us forget about Frieza (to the point where people were actively anticipating the moment he'd reappear), so seeing 17 show in the same moment made for an excellent secondary swerve.
@@DLxxx they knew what they were doing. I binged it recently and already knew Jiren got beat by Frieza and Goku from FighterZ dramatic finish. I’m very glad 17 wasn’t included in that or I would’ve been anticipating him the whole time. They should add 17 in future games. I was just thinking how crazy it was that those three were working together lol. They’re were so many other group combos, too. Super really knew what they were doing. I hate it took me almost a decade to finally get to it, but I’m also not mad since the game is right around the corner, and everything is still fresh. I wonder it’s going to organize the characters, though. Goku and Vegeta should be able to use one character model since they can go from any form to the next. Frieza’s transformations in previous games would have him go up and not down. But he should be able to do that, now. F. Trunks is probably the most tricky between Z and S (maybe GT and late Z too)… But hopefully, they came up with a solid solution since I sure there’s going to be a lack of characters. I mean, Hercule’s in there. I want to see Bulma (in like a robot suit) and Chichi. Gotta get them in the mix.
I knew he was alive from the beginning and he was going to show up to help Goku. They never showed his dead body or anything so I knew he would return.
@@busymikehis cause of death was self destruction, so there wouldnt be a body or anything to show. u used the wrong formula, but got the right answer anyway
@@Dunkskins Same. It's easy to forget, but when 17 showed back up, literally EVERYONE was caught off guard and loved the twist, because it completely threw a wrench in how we all thought the tournament was going to end. My jaw never dropped so low 😆
yeah i know, it was a really high point in the anime, ruined by the fact that his eyes are drawn in a different way, one is small and the other is big.
For some reason, Freeza’s voice changing to how gravely and deep it was showed how serious he was taking this threat, idk it just seemed so interesting to me
I know alot of people did, the only reason I didn't because it looked like his entire spine gushed blood, so if it were an attack it had to be vertical line, which is not frieza's go to.
@@Cardlimits Isn't he one of the only characters to have a kniwn vertical attack? Like that slash he did that cut up Namek's landscape and the same move he used on Goku agaim in RoF (movie anyways. I skipped the anime version).
Not really.. 17 was persuaded to be a villain. Unbeknownst to him and 18, they were made solely to serve as food for Cell. And honestly, as much as people hate seeing Frieza turning sides, I think it makes sense for him to become a good guy. How many times does Goku need to defeat Frieza? It was time for the author to throw the gloves and change course.
before the tournament starts, Jiren does not intend to participate and does not want to destroy the other universe. but Toppo offers Jiren to take Super Dragon Ball. the cause of Jiren participating in the tournament.
I always find it interesting when they give 17 an aura compared to all the times he doesn't have one throughout the series. I assumed they were linked to Ki, which Androids don't have as a power source. He also had that black aura when fusing with the other 17 I believe.
Android is a mistranslation. Both 17 and 18 are cyborgs, not androids since they were born human and had parts of them replaced with technology. Literal androids are not humans, but instead machines that are built to replicate humans. That's why it would make sense that they have auras as living organisms. 18 also has a biological child with Krillin which demonstrates the point.
I feel like it’s a mistake they kinda just stuck with unless they got more and more human. All of Z they had no au ra at all. Coulda just forgot that though
People don't give Frieza enough credit about his intelligence level. He can be prideful and arrogant, but he's not a fool. He knows when he is in over his head and learned that lesson when he got killed by Goku on Namek. Besides, Goku promised that he'd revive Frieza so he has a vested interest in Goku's victory against a monster that Frieza knows he can't defeat.
This scene really says alot about Jiren, he could've shot that blast at Goku straight in his face and probably would've been eliminated him if he did it that way too but he chose to shoot the ground instead.
Proud warrior, Son Goku. It is not my wish that our showdown end this way. But, even though you will cease to be, you shall live on forever in my memories. Farewell.
If you had told me during the first airing of the Android Saga that in the future a video title like this would exist, I would not believe it. Goku's greatest power has always been turning his most dangerous enemies into friends.
I cried too. Its literally a dream to see freiza and 17 together. Thats some next level fantasy shit that I would have never thought could happen growing up as a dbz stan
With 17 & 18 being apart of the Z-Fighters having Cell come back the same way as Frieza would be interesting if done right he would have a bone to pick with 17 , 18 & Future Trunks.
I like the ending with 17's wish, but I would have loved to see Jiren actually win and then him make the wish to restore all universes despite his initial different wish, but I get that they wanted to show that trust and cooperation prevail oven Jiren's self-centered power.
17 and 18 have infinite energy and stamina thanks to their genetically modified cells and the perpetual energy reactor internalized in their bodies. That being said, if they don't tire out they can still sustain physical damage when fighting strong opponents. That's what is happening to 17 at the end of the Tournament of Power. He's not tired but hurting a bit.
Android's may have unlimited stamina, but they don't produce the same kind of ki as normal organic beings like Goku (based more in science than pure life engery). This is the reason they can't be sensed either. When he donated energy to the spirit bomb, he was only able to do that because that move required genki, as opposed to just regular ki.
The reason for this choice is really down-to-earth: it's because Freeza is easier to draw an animate than Cell. I don't remember who it was from TOEI who said that all the spots on Cell's body were just a nightmare.
17 and 18 are not "androids", that's a misnomer. They are genetically modified human beings who were restructured at the cellular level and enhanced almost entirely with bio-organic components (i.e genetically modified human cells) and very few tiny cybernetic implants. So yeah, they are "natural life forms". They are human beings made of flesh and blood with hardly any machinery in their bodies, and that's been an official fact since their very first appearance in 1991.
17 and 18 are still mostly human, so it only makes sense that they can still emit a ki like every single living creature. The only difference is that their ki is artificial, seeing as it's coming from their genetically modified human cells and their perpetual energy reactor. That's why it's also undetectable.
This video is suddenly in everyone’s recommended 1 year later? Lol
Mine 😅
Just now again lmao
Mine just now after watching some dragonball.
Mine too
Mine
Everyone always talks about Vegeta's character development but no one ever talks about the Android twins. Although neither of them were really evil, still 17 turned from an arrogant and condescending jerk to a polite and reserved gentleman, and 18 turned from a bit of a cold and also slightly arrogant person to a lighthearted and playful young woman with a daughter of her own
17 also has three kids. I’m happy how both of them turned out to be
That's not character development, though. We see none of what changed 17. One minute he's trying to kill Piccolo in an attempt to find and kill Goku, then next we see him he's a park ranger and has a family.
They simply changed his character to fit the story.
Vegeta's character changed BECAUSE of the story, and did so gradually, over 200+ episodes.
@@westy1637 you have a very good point. And to be fair to poor 17 he was “dead” technically for like forever lol until he was mentioned I forgot he was even confirmed alive in DBZ lol!
@@destinitaylor4360 when they revived all the people Cell killed, I'm pretty sure Piccolo and Krillin said that 17 was alive again too. Just never showed him or mentioned him until the spirit bomb to kill Buu was made
Yeah but you got to remember that they were teens when drGero got then. Thats why they had that personality
Bruh when this was still airing every week me and my friends would watch together. The hype was insane we were shouting, cheering, imitating characters, and just having a blast.
👍 yup
That's cool
Bro same…..shit was hype AF!!!
How old r u?
He's older than 13
Edit: Who the hell cares when your grammar is cancer?
I remember when watching this, my jaw hit the floor when 17 stood up. Everyone knew they were trying to make us forget about Frieza by not including him in many of the episodes where Jiren and Goku fought. But NOBODY saw it coming when 17 stood up
Dude, SAME. I was genuinely stunned when 17 first appeared, since the show really went all the way in trying to convince us he was dead (even the Grand Priest assumed he died). I remember watching everyone else's reaction and reviews after that, and they all had the same reaction, lol.
Like you said, everyone could see that they were trying to make us forget about Frieza (to the point where people were actively anticipating the moment he'd reappear), so seeing 17 show in the same moment made for an excellent secondary swerve.
@@DLxxx they knew what they were doing. I binged it recently and already knew Jiren got beat by Frieza and Goku from FighterZ dramatic finish. I’m very glad 17 wasn’t included in that or I would’ve been anticipating him the whole time. They should add 17 in future games. I was just thinking how crazy it was that those three were working together lol. They’re were so many other group combos, too. Super really knew what they were doing. I hate it took me almost a decade to finally get to it, but I’m also not mad since the game is right around the corner, and everything is still fresh. I wonder it’s going to organize the characters, though. Goku and Vegeta should be able to use one character model since they can go from any form to the next. Frieza’s transformations in previous games would have him go up and not down. But he should be able to do that, now. F. Trunks is probably the most tricky between Z and S (maybe GT and late Z too)… But hopefully, they came up with a solid solution since I sure there’s going to be a lack of characters. I mean, Hercule’s in there. I want to see Bulma (in like a robot suit) and Chichi. Gotta get them in the mix.
I knew he was alive from the beginning and he was going to show up to help Goku. They never showed his dead body or anything so I knew he would return.
@@busymikehis cause of death was self destruction, so there wouldnt be a body or anything to show. u used the wrong formula, but got the right answer anyway
I still remembered how excited I was when 17 popped up. Best come back
Did not see it coming at all, I was stoked when he came back he's the GOAT.
I know right I was so happy 17 was ok and 18 was happy too :)
@@Dunkskins Same. It's easy to forget, but when 17 showed back up, literally EVERYONE was caught off guard and loved the twist, because it completely threw a wrench in how we all thought the tournament was going to end. My jaw never dropped so low 😆
yeah i know, it was a really high point in the anime, ruined by the fact that his eyes are drawn in a different way, one is small and the other is big.
it felt kind of out of place for me, maybe was the timing idk
The irony that 2 villains save Goku
Bruh 17 isn’t a villain
@@chrisangelo2k7 former enemies
Jerome Marshall the funny thing is, most of Goku’s friends now were once his former enemies or rivals.
@@Ghostkilla773 frieza steal their enemie
@Fred Rijos I think even Chi Chi would have tried to kill him if he had not agreed to marriage lol
For some reason, Freeza’s voice changing to how gravely and deep it was showed how serious he was taking this threat, idk it just seemed so interesting to me
ya but still he is hm
" YOU , DONT , TELL , ME WHAT TO DOO"
I hope I wasn't the only one who thought Frieza attacked Goku in the beginning lol
Me too bro
When i first saw that i thougth it was Universe 11 God Of Destruction who did, lol
I know alot of people did, the only reason I didn't because it looked like his entire spine gushed blood, so if it were an attack it had to be vertical line, which is not frieza's go to.
@@Cardlimits Isn't he one of the only characters to have a kniwn vertical attack? Like that slash he did that cut up Namek's landscape and the same move he used on Goku agaim in RoF (movie anyways. I skipped the anime version).
@@Cardlimits”Look guys I’m so different 🤓👆🏾”
2 villians are working together to save the universe...this is soo awesome
17 is not a fucking villain. Why do idiots like u keep saying that. He hasn’t been a villain since the android saga.
N17 was already a good person after the cell games dumbass
@@Jeremyugryjh lol Android 17 was once a villian i m saying that while frieza has still got evil ways....i m also a fan of Dragonball so i k that ..
He wiped out almost everyone from an entire timeline@@mushflaw1
Not really.. 17 was persuaded to be a villain. Unbeknownst to him and 18, they were made solely to serve as food for Cell. And honestly, as much as people hate seeing Frieza turning sides, I think it makes sense for him to become a good guy. How many times does Goku need to defeat Frieza? It was time for the author to throw the gloves and change course.
Dude Frieza saved Goku more than anyone in this tournament
身勝手の極意後の悟空にトドメを刺そうとしてるときに直接当てるんじゃなくてわざと地面に避けて当ててるの凝ってて好き
Honestly this arc made me love freiza even more and no17 out of left field
it made 17 my favorite character in dragonball
Listen to the desperation in belmods voice when he says jiren at 1:27. Solid acting 👌🏾
So this is randomly in everyone’s recommend too? I was so happy when #17 showed up
Saw you on a Gordon Ramsay Video Comment Thread.
nejihyyuga1 ayye the lobster vid? Lol
@@TaeSunWoo lmao you already know. I can see you're a person of taste as well.
nejihyyuga1 we outchea being people of culture
Same I was so glad 17 was ok
I love it that jiren had so much respect although in his perspective in the way beginning was he was a super villain destined to kill everyone
before the tournament starts, Jiren does not intend to participate and does not want to destroy the other universe. but Toppo offers Jiren to take Super Dragon Ball. the cause of Jiren participating in the tournament.
@@nadiadeliar2730 That's the manga we don't know about the anime though
@@anouaressanoussi no.. Jiren said it in anime... Before tournament of power start.
@@nadiadeliar2730 well I had a good time getting beaten by
Lighting
Also he jiren is a good guy...
Start of the video “BUAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!”
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 🤫
notice how Jiren wants to not knock Goku off because he wants to finish the fight instead of doing a cheap shot so Jiren has earned my respect
6 years later rewatching and i still love it. what a moment, in my opinion. thank you master Akira Toriyama. Rest in Peace
I always find it interesting when they give 17 an aura compared to all the times he doesn't have one throughout the series. I assumed they were linked to Ki, which Androids don't have as a power source.
He also had that black aura when fusing with the other 17 I believe.
They also have white auras in lots of db games too
Android is a mistranslation. Both 17 and 18 are cyborgs, not androids since they were born human and had parts of them replaced with technology. Literal androids are not humans, but instead machines that are built to replicate humans. That's why it would make sense that they have auras as living organisms. 18 also has a biological child with Krillin which demonstrates the point.
@@Xerion1 technically they arent even cyborgs due to having next to no cybernetic parts.
@@derpmanaveragegamer7791 That's right! They are genetically-modified, biologically enhanced human beings.
I feel like it’s a mistake they kinda just stuck with unless they got more and more human. All of Z they had no au ra at all. Coulda just forgot that though
Remember when we all thought that hit had a clone and would suddenly pop out in the end?
i really like the fact that you could see that frieza was worried that goku couldn’t fight anymore
sorry to be the one to say this, but. Couldn't
@KILLING⚡HEROS Fuck you!
People don't give Frieza enough credit about his intelligence level. He can be prideful and arrogant, but he's not a fool. He knows when he is in over his head and learned that lesson when he got killed by Goku on Namek. Besides, Goku promised that he'd revive Frieza so he has a vested interest in Goku's victory against a monster that Frieza knows he can't defeat.
i dont need your help either monkey
when monkey goes down
WHERE ARE YOU MONEKYYYY
This scene really says alot about Jiren, he could've shot that blast at Goku straight in his face and probably would've been eliminated him if he did it that way too but he chose to shoot the ground instead.
He can't kill him. A point blank KI blast in that state would have killed him
@@LuisSoto-fw3if but Goku in Ultra Instinct shot a Kamehameha point blank at Kefla. That probably should've killed her
@@jcoolguy1548 yeah but she's probably in a much better state to survive that blast then a weakened base form Goku
Or maybe these fighters know how to control their powers to just hurt their opponent with a ki blast and not kill them
@@nelsonortiz9909this
Seeing both power up like that is so epic and memorable.
0:52 my respect for Jiren for not hitting Goku directly with that Ki blast.
not due to respect.
He was not allowed to kill him. If he had used the blast, then goku would have died which would disqualify jiren
Jiren: You shall live on in my memories
Goku: Watashi wa omoide ni wa naranai za
Jiren:just be a part of my memories
Goku;i will never be a memory
Proud warrior, Son Goku.
It is not my wish that our showdown end this way.
But, even though you will cease to be, you shall live on forever in my memories.
Farewell.
Which was wrong. Because they would’ve all been wiped from existence lol.
@TheUKisThere but not wiped from history so he would still remember Goku
NGL, seeing 17 and Frieza team up like that was kinda badass
I’m impressed for 3 Members in U7 made it this far in the Tournament.
フリーザと17号
初対面ながらかなりのナイスコンビだったと思う
If you had told me during the first airing of the Android Saga that in the future a video title like this would exist, I would not believe it. Goku's greatest power has always been turning his most dangerous enemies into friends.
And if my grandmother had wheels she woulda been a bike
@@deiangg5928 Tsubone from HunterxHunter?
What a solid fight
My favorite thing is the dub 17 just says goku looks really useless it’s very funny
Bruh I cried after that
Colter i cried too til the end dammit
Dont know why but when frieza and 17 is back i was so hype wtf
I cried too. Its literally a dream to see freiza and 17 together. Thats some next level fantasy shit that I would have never thought could happen growing up as a dbz stan
Lee Smoove ikr. Tbh the tournament of power saga and along with some of the Goku black saga provided a lot of fan service
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omg this vid is amazing
Shockingly, these guys are a destructive duo.
Frieza and 17 carried this arc
17 is amazing.😁👏👏
Jiren has the best japanese voice in dbs
Butsqueak nah fused zamasu was better IMO
@@escanortheone1550 NINGEN!
@@escanortheone1550 more like trash
Jiren respects him enough to break the ground under him instead of cause more harm to him to knock him off the ring
You know in retrospect, it makes sense that Android 17 didn't die considering Krillin previously wished for 17 & 18's Boobie bombs to be removed.
X Moore android 17 is a boy idiot
@@whocares309 idiot . How?
@@whocares309 read properly
X Moore haha nice TFS reference!
Yeah. What really happened was that Android 17 purposely overheated himself and exploded in a way that didn't kill him
With 17 & 18 being apart of the Z-Fighters having Cell come back the same way as Frieza would be interesting if done right he would have a bone to pick with 17 , 18 & Future Trunks.
Now i start to love freza as a villian
Say whatever you want about the whole thing
But… the last 2 episodes of DragonBall Super were amazing
yeah nooo
watch 125 shitty episodes and then 2 good
I would re watch dragon ball
@@shriaaravji DBS shits on you fav anime
i dont watch anime i wach DBZA@@unclephillymya
Freiza may never be a hero but i see him becoming a anti villain
"Same thing you said to Frieza on Earth"
This is by far the best ending of anything EVER
Right
I like the ending with 17's wish, but I would have loved to see Jiren actually win and then him make the wish to restore all universes despite his initial different wish, but I get that they wanted to show that trust and cooperation prevail oven Jiren's self-centered power.
2 villians. One former and one still. Save Goku, a person they swore/ordered to kill
Jiren was feeling so powerless when he was trying to knock out goku
Well goku is lucky jiren shot the ground not on his face because that would be instant knockout jiren gains goku’s respect.
I had to take multiple recaps on this title.
Android 17 does the Vegeta's Sacrificial bomb blast and still survives as well.
I was like
*”OMG WHAT THE FUUUUUU?!?!”*
チカラの大会では(元々)宿敵とは思えぬ程に協力的で分からないような違反をしなかったフリーザを見直したし、17号は超良い人だったd(⌒ー⌒)。
what is that sick sound track at the beginning
Jirens face at the end was priceless🤣🤣
Big muscle dude vs two small muscle dudes
When i saw this my hair when up
17 has become way cooler definitely want an amazing moveset for him in sparking zero
Funny how all of goku friend all where his enemies once except frieza and krillin
1:32: i love the aura
1:11
お前は…フリーザ!!
いやみんな知っとるわ
Oh down run Oh down
I was just thinking this. If android 17 has unlimited energy then why couldn’t he give Goku as much energy as possible?
@Christopher Marlowe sorry to be more accurate, he has unlimited stamina I believe
Christopher Marlowe I haven’t watched the last couple ep’s in a while. Was he tired of just hurt from all the damage he accumulated?
17 and 18 have infinite energy and stamina thanks to their genetically modified cells and the perpetual energy reactor internalized in their bodies.
That being said, if they don't tire out they can still sustain physical damage when fighting strong opponents. That's what is happening to 17 at the end of the Tournament of Power. He's not tired but hurting a bit.
Android's may have unlimited stamina, but they don't produce the same kind of ki as normal organic beings like Goku (based more in science than pure life engery). This is the reason they can't be sensed either.
When he donated energy to the spirit bomb, he was only able to do that because that move required genki, as opposed to just regular ki.
Great question, unfortunately the plot needs to happen so it will remain unanswered
Jiren was a Tank
Why does everyone seem to forget that Krillin wished the bombs out of the android’s chests how would 17 have self destructed
Plot armor
My guy Android 17 1:35 yeaaa sirrrr
😭😭
No way he saved him he did it he save Goku!
Doctor Gero what did you put in those androids?!
A bomb
@@thefire-man4527 Well I was talking about tech.
Zealious Zone infinite energy
@@AbdiazizAhmedboss Aaa yes you think Bulma would probably pick that up. Maybe make some Androids herself.
@@zealiouszone8861 Tech has advanced so far, you'd think Bulma would create and army of Android tier soldiers or something lol
Wait, androids don’t charge up….
This part was so epic it gave me goosebumps
Knock them off...? I mean no one says that, right...?
I thought he was going into false ssj or another transformation
im not watching anime
why is this in my recommendation?
So you clicked on an anime video just to type this? ....Weird progressive thinking you have my guy.
Phillip Coleman estupido
really?
u replied after a month
what kind of idiot you are
@X4TERUMI same goes for u but youre worse
Frieza and 17 giving Goku the assist was the team-up I never fuckin imagined
Since when does android 17 have a kii aura?
Since he was born
@@o.v4069 Something that made androids special was that their kii was undetectable. Here is not only detectable but easy to see lol.
@@Ignasimp LOL!
Just because their Ki is undetectable dosen't mean they don't have it. They are still humans after all.
@@wilfredynunez5263 seeing is a way of detecting something. They never showed an aura during DBZ and they where as strong as a super Saiyan.
I like frieza on this moment
I've been liking Frieza since childbirth hahaha
so doesnt anyone feel that #17 survived was bullshit?
Dude shut up don’t you desrespect him 17 is awesome
He was a key part of the team
Since when is Frieza able to Do that air beam😂1:05
Anyone in db can do it. All their doing is applying that much pressure to the air
Uh...Frieza literally did that in Namek.
1 v 1, jiren will eat goku
Depends now honestly. Jiren vs Goku in the tournament? Hell yeah. Jiren vs a non battle weary MUI Goku? No.
Plot saved android 17. Only u7 has infinite saves from Jiren
Plot made jiren strong
Skywalker 8 Jiren was always strong
luoi sant soo why did he get sasuke’d then?
Android 17 is the third evolution of Voltrob.
0:55 that scream is literally the same scream from 0:00. Such lazy editing.
😍
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N17
Its funny when you think that half of the universe 7 team was once villian kkk
What happened to Goku to make him lose all his power on the verge of victory?
He was using Ultra Instinct and it drained him
Wait so what was that beam from cuz at first i thought it was from frieza
I won't lie. 17 being alive kinda ruined the whole self destruction. They should of left it that way and then later with the wish he comes back
Episode 127 was so bullshit
3v1 no fer 1v1 jiren win!
Primbrano :D ur stupid
@@whocares309 and ur fortnite player. Thats worse
ur mom is lesbian if everybody was at normal state Jiren would still demolish all 3
How come they didn't recruit Perfect Cell, wasn't Cell a stronger fighter than Frieza?
Frieza is a more iconic character
No Frieza is stronger than Cell now
The reason for this choice is really down-to-earth: it's because Freeza is easier to draw an animate than Cell. I don't remember who it was from TOEI who said that all the spots on Cell's body were just a nightmare.
Universe 7 cheated
Goku was lucky. Without friza and 17 he would have been out of there
How come Android 17 has aura now, i thought androids don't have aura as they are not natural life forms, well its Akira Toriyama so fuck logic.
17 and 18 are not "androids", that's a misnomer. They are genetically modified human beings who were restructured at the cellular level and enhanced almost entirely with bio-organic components (i.e genetically modified human cells) and very few tiny cybernetic implants.
So yeah, they are "natural life forms". They are human beings made of flesh and blood with hardly any machinery in their bodies, and that's been an official fact since their very first appearance in 1991.
Hhg
Mood
Any Body Want to see broly vs jiren
Wouldn’t it be hilarious mecha frieza meets android 17…….
O.o….. who tf built YOU???? !!!
Since when do androids have ki ?
17 and 18 are still mostly human, so it only makes sense that they can still emit a ki like every single living creature.
The only difference is that their ki is artificial, seeing as it's coming from their genetically modified human cells and their perpetual energy reactor. That's why it's also undetectable.
cyborgs don't have aura