Toronto Maple Leafs WILL TRADE Mitch Marner and CORE Guys Per Elliotte Friedman (IF THEY LOSE)
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Will Marner (and core guys) be traded if Leafs lose? Comment your thoughts
Marner should be traded but I'll give you Hamonic as D depth for a 7th rounder?
Yes him and Tavares need to go. But those contracts are very expensive. So likely maple leafs will need to retain salary for a year in exchange for a top 4 D and young prospect and a top 6 forward. Side note, leafs are in need of a goalie as well, so it would be interesting to see if they can pickup a goalie with these trades as well.
They should have been gone 4 years ago. 😀
@@sens_outlook🙄🙄🙄
I would trade Mitchy for 2 big. heavy d-man or 1 top 9 power forward and 1 d-man. Tre, GET-R-DONE!
Why aren't people talking about trading the most overrated #1 d-man in the league. Rielly, doesn't - hit-PK- clear the front of the net- no point shot. He passes the puck to the forward group and picks up assists that any mid d-man that can make an outlet pass could put up similar numbers.
IF Marner waives take anything you can and run !
If Keller was on the Coyotes still, I’d say no deal. Now that he is in Utah, I don’t care anymore.
Ottawa and Mormon Team would have to be out of their minds to trade Tkachuk or Keller for that choker lol
Exactly, any team that has playoff ambitions would be very cautious about accepting a trade for Marner. And no other team is going to give him a raise, which likely means pay cut.
Mormon Team 😂
fowler gibson are washed up no thanks
More washed up then Marner?
@@drexxler138 Im not a leafs fan but i feel like on any other team marner would thrive
Unless Tkachuk asks for a trade, can’t see why Ottawa would trade him
Devils need to get tougher, they need a goalie and they need 1 or maybe 2 dmen so why exactly are they trading 2 young fwds, their best defensive dman and the 10th overall for another soft winger? Makes no sense for NJ.
5:41 As a Habs fan, that Montreal trade is ridiculous. Why would the Habs trade 5 decent/solid assets (including a ~#5 OA pick!) for an “star” known to disappear in the playoffs, PLUS dead weight in Reaves? (also overpaid…).
Nobody will pay a ransom for Marner with that contract (and playoff reputation, earned or not), and one year away from UFA. They will be lucky to find a team willing to take him in exchange for a “decent” player, and maybe a 2nd/3rd pick, assuming they retain at least 25%, IMO. And of course it must be somewhere that Mitch WANTS to go, since he holds all the cards with his NMC…
My guess is Mitch won’t cooperate, they will be stuck with him next season, then face losing him to FA, or maybe trade his rights after the season for a 5th or something if they can’t afford to resign him. (Probably same story for Tavares).
I said from day 1 Tavares signing was a mistake, as they didn’t need another #1C, then the second mistake was giving him the immovable contract. For Marner, they should have moved him (or Matthews or Nylander… at least one of the three, to shake things up) when the new GM came in, before the NMC’s kicked in. (Like what the Habs did with Subban in the trade for Weber, which seemed awful at first, it ended up decent, maybe even a win for Mtl). Last year was the perfect opportunity for Leafs to make a change…. But no. Now they are in an even tougher spot.
Good luck, Treliving…
Exactly. Marner will be out of the league in few years.
I know marner would be the guy likely to move but could there stil be a window to move nylander before his new deal kicks in july1?
No team is going to want to give up quality assets for a guy who completely disappears come playoffs. The best scenario for both Marner and Leafs is Marner gets his s%^& together and produces outside of just regular season.
Marner and our 2024 1st pick and Minten for Brady Tkachuk and Chychrun as Ottawa wants him (Chychrun)off their books as their right side is overloaded and they want him gone as per many insiders.!
Here are players I would like in a trade package for Marner: Noah Dobson, Brandt Clarke, Clarke, Wyatt Johnston, Ke’Andre Miller.
Kempe would be huge in the playoffs.
I think you underrate Necas. He has high potential, he havent got a lot time with Aho and he havent play a lot first line minutes. He is also good overtime scorer. I also think that it dose reduce Marner value in trade markets that he probably will ask huge cap hit in new contract too and that he has No Trade clause make it hard to trade on some teams who could pay more.
Yall stuck with marner unless you find someone to retain his salary for you. Going to have to give up extra to trade him
I believe Treliving is gunna go aftr Brett Pesce this offseason to play on the right side of Morgan Rielly. Both 94 bbys too
Trade Marner get another defence man. Find a competent goalie and then once Tavares contract is up you can finally start playing with fire. I’m not a Leafs fan but I’m a Canadian Hockey fan and enough is enough.
If you don't get top talent in return, what's the point? Put an aggressive forward with a coach who wants to be your friend? Leave Matthews and Nylander to carry a team of youngsters? Or get aged out replacements prone to injuries? No matter how you look at the future rebuild, the next 4-5 years will be no different than they are today: built to lose. The only solution right now is to get rid of all the top leafs for first rounders. Start over.
Makes sense
Toronto management have locked themselves in the corner with no key!
Great job if no one decides to waive the entire team is just screwed , just accept losing forever!
This is such and easy trade. Nashville for Soros and a 1st.
David Kampf is one of the few Leafs that seems to be on his game this playoff. Either the trades are because his value has gone up or because people are annoyed at his contract.
The New Jersey deal is interesting. I think Holtz is a 50 goal scorer waiting to happen, I wonder if New Jersey still buys that.
have a gut feeling marner will be a Penguin.
Why the F would we trade Minten?!
Leafs fans are smoking weed with those "trade proposals". LOL
exactly. most pathetic fans and media in all of sports.
Pathetic is a bit harsh they must of hurt your feelings to much i take it lol. @doodlebob2023
Yeah as a real Leafs fan i would not do ANY of those trades as Marner is a superstar maybe the devils trade. Maybe
@@FrankDuPont-pe1ub You have to know how economy works... all other teams will lowball to get Marner, in other hand, Toronto will try anything to raise his value for a trade. At the end of the day, Marner will remain a Leafs next season and sign for an another team as UFA.
loooool
Trade Marner and Knies for Brady Tkachuk!
Why do you have a bruins jersey
Because the Bruins are going to win this series.
Ryan Reaves will be in Chicago next year likely
JT for Brady … do it
Nylander does not get his no movement and no trade cause until Jily 01, 2024. So he is tradeable to his list with no say as to where...
Go leafs go ... leafs in 7
Do a retool video of your own
I will if they lose the series
they need to find a way to trade tavares too, he's too old. Bring in Kadri or Monahan as your 2nd line center.
kadri wouldnt want to come back. hes got a cup and wants another one.
WHY ON EARTH would anyone trade for John Gibson? I'd sooner target Dostal. God. Gibson turns 31 years old this summer, and his best playing days are behind him. Yes, he plays on a terrible team, but he had a win percentage of under 30% this year, and a Sv% of 0.888. Dostal played for the same team, had a win percentage of 37%, and a Sv% of 0.902. And I know GAA is basically a team stat, but Gibson's was 3.54 and Dostals was 3.33, so make of that what you will. Dostal turns 24 this year, and he started nearly as many games as Gibson did (38 vs 44). I think he has FAR more potential to be a franchise goaltender than Gibson. It is the rare goaltender who can maintain a starter's game frequency, combined with a higher than 0.900 Sv% beyond ~34 years old. So even if Gibson is able to perform better on a better team, for how long? I give it a year or two, maybe, before he is a backup that you play because you have no choice. Sure, his contract expires after 3 years, but I don't think he is the answer for any team looking to find a clutch goalie who will steal them some games (to be fair, I have my doubts about Dostal too, but he if it was a binary choice between those two, Dostal would be my pick, 10 times out of 10).
I don’t get this fanbase’s infatuation with Gibson. He has been a replacement level goalie for each of the last 5 year. There is a mountain of evidence and data that take team and competition into account that say he hasn’t been a good starting goalie for half a decade now.
I'll trade you Brady and Timmy for Marner and Tavares.
So glad you are not a general manager
Why would teams give up their futures for Marner? Hes going to be a UFA next year. Its obvious Marner wants out of Toronto
How can they trade marner with an 11 milly tag, who’d pick that contract up? It’d be nice tho
There’s always 1 team
core 5 NTC, coach with non-scorer at 3C and 4C, = no depth scoring. on D, keep Benoit, McCabe, Lyabushkin, keep backup goalie, resign bert and max. Add Monahan at C. as always, for 20 years top D and G. nick, lilly, will only go in a package.
very evident last year against Florida in the playoffs . Same issues again against Boston this year. When up against a physical team who plays good defense, forechecks well and battles along the boards for the puck. The leafs fluff four can't compete.
Until the leafs build a team to compete against Florida or Boston, which should be their primary objective. They better move out of the Atlantic division, otherwise expect the same results next year
Bam Son
should be more than just marner unfortunately, but management has to play this right
Trust Shanahan, trust the plan.
Marner isn’t waiving the no move. So
All Treliving has to do is issue an ultimatum to Marner's Agent: "Submit a 10 team trade list or I'll keep your client in the Press Box until you do".
@@MrJordwalklmfao that has never been done in NHL history and would just keep 11m on the books while simultaneously keeping an incredible regular season player off the ice. Good luck with that.
@SirDeerock you said it yourself, incredible regular season player, not an incredible postseason player. Huge difference.
It's the best move for both parties if he waives, so why wouldn't he? It's obvious he hates the media in Toronto and all the added pressure.
@@MrJordwalk and he still gets paid
Trade Matthews for 5 first round picks. Trade Marner. Trade Nylander too
Have another puff
I highly doubt Bert will return to TO. Demi as well.
Domi wants to be a leaf
As a sens fan, there is nothing the leafs could give us that would sweeten that pot enough. Brady is going nowhere, and hes bringing us a cup one day
I dont want Marner... Rod would kick his ass lol
Who the hell is going to want marner after watching him all these years in the playoffs. Especially this year.
A small market team still needs to sell 41 home games a year. The owners for a team like Columbus or Carolina would love his regular season ability. Would Marner waive to go to a team like that though.
Three words: NO TRADE CLAUSE. None of the four core are going anywhere. Bertuzzi and Domi are gone next season, though.
Yeah because guys with no trades clauses have never been moved before... right... I dont need to make a list of guys that have been traded with some kind of trade protection, just go look at all of them yourself with some research. One recent leaf that had a NTC or NMC that was traded was Kaberle.
Guys can be moved with NTC's or full NMC's, it just makes it a little less nice and a little more difficult. Youre kidding yourself if you think all 4 are staying together after this season if/when they lose to Boston.
It. Is. Over.
I think Domi might stay he wants to he says
If Marner gets really uncomfortable with all the trade talk he may waive, but he won’t go to a bottom feeder. He’ll want to go to a contender and “contribute” to a cup win. 😂😂😂
@@CrimsonicStormthe point is that decision is not up to the team. Plain and simple. Toronto is home for Marner and Tavares and they have made it clear they don’t want to leave. This has been 8 years of annual disappointment. If they didn’t want out 3 years ago, they won’t want out now.
@@SirDeerock Lol, are you sure about that? Why wouldn't Marner be open to leaving? Friedge said just that actually on 32T. Honestly after how its gone wouldnt you want to maybe consider it, doesnt he want to win? Wouldnt he want to put himself in a better less pressure cooker situation? He seems to honestly hate the pressure of TO.
I also disagree that the decision isnt made by the team, it absolutely can be, if they approach him and say "we're trading you", why would he want to stay at that point anyway? Its over. Which is exactly how Burke traded Kaberle with a NMC. He said "we're trading you", his agent and him cried and said "what about our NMC?" and Burke said, "you can sit in the press box all year until you give me that 10 team list" a day later Burke got his 10 team and list and moved him.
This isn't hard. Its just a question of who has the balls to do it?
Leaf nation is a tough group of fans to play for. You guys put way too much pressure on your players. If you lose in the playoffs, "trade them all. They all suck". You guys expect at least one of these every year: President's Trophy, a Hart Trophy, a Norris Trophy, The Vezina Trophy, or a Cup. Not all, but at least one of them. Imagine playing for a fan base like that. I understand you are frustrated. 1967 is a long time ago. But hey, if you want to trade some players, the Pens will take Marner, no hesitation. And Edmundson to sweeten the pot.
Ha ha ha......friedman reminds me of my Portfolio. Just listen or do the opposite and that's where you'll get the truth or benefit. Expert of the obvious.
Makes sense what he says, right? Because teams are lining up for an 11 million dollar player that doesn't show up for the playoffs. How 'bout Joe Sakic for Bill Berg??lol
Matthews is gone.... one more year, tops! Forget top notch US players. They want to play in the States, Canada sucks. Taxes too high, weather is brutal, government crazy with fake vaccines while US kids are partying on the beaches in Florida. Where would you want to play????
Call me crazy it used to be that all the toxic leaf fans would go after 1 guy like Jaden and say he was the problem / kadri ended up getting a cup. They probably do need to break up the band. No point in talking about trades because these are wet dreams people have in Toronto not based on the any actual knowledge of what’s going on. Yes please take Seth jones and his salary
Should read one player like kadri
Do Mitch a favour and get him out of here. He is a spoiled brat and needs a change. I expect the leafs will give him $12mill though lol. Are people starting to realize how ridiculous the Babcock firing was?
Anyone like a marner for a Tom Wilson package.. it would make us alot tougher to play against in the playoffs.. also makes it easier if you wanna bury the reevo contract in the minors and gives JT and wily the protection they need on the second line..
Marner's got a full NMC. He's not going anywhere he doesn't want to go to.
well he can play on the 3rd line playing 12 mins a nite with no power play time, im sure he would want to move if this was told to him, so there ya go.
There’s many ways to convince a player to change his NMC
I think there's a good chance Marner goes to Carolina. I'm guessing he waives his no movement clause.
You think he wants to hang around another year and be the whipping boy for this train wreck? Not a chance. He’s going to be happy to go anywhere for a year and then pick his landing spot as a UFA after next season.
I agree with you John
You are stuck with them. also, Leafs need complete rebuild. If you trade Marner or big moves, it should be all for draft picks. Your rebuild was a failure. See you in 7 years. You should be wanting Shanahan out and their entire upper management fired. Coach has nothing to do with this even he's not great himself.
Coach is pretty garbage too. In every playoff round he has been out coached, and he fails to motivate his players. I say full fire sail, but I would keep Nylander and Matthews.
Bam Son
@@drexxler138so every coach since 1967 is garbage that's what u saying then because we haven't won a cup since 1967 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
No that’s not what I’m saying. First off I wasn’t even alive for most of those years. I can only speak to the last 6 years since I have started really following hockey. And it’s clear to me his coaching isn’t good.
@@drexxler138 its not the coach it's the GM Treliving and Dubas refuse to break up the core. JT, Matthews, Marner and Nylander they all the same style we need to mix it up with guys who are feisty willing to go all out with determination guys with heart none of those players offer that only skill. As u can see its same shit for 6-7 years it's obvious it's the core but Dubas and Treliving refuse to break up the core. Until the core is split if not it will be the same shit every yr 1st Rd early exit. ⚰️🪦🤯🤯🤯🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Core 4 are killing leaf fans ,ever year go away heartless players
rasmus dahlin for marner would be ideal
Buffalo says no
Why would any team pay anything for Marner? I guess if Marner could be convinced to go to some team that has a hideous contract they want to dump - maybe. Otherwise just wait a year and pick him up for free. The side benefit is that the Leafs either have to be content to be a regular season team for another year or they buy Marner (and/or Tavares) out. Added bonus in the you still get Marner (and/or Tavares) for free and Toronto becomes even less of an attractive location for free agents.
Are you smoking crack? You would give Bertuzzi and Domi $4.5 to $5 million per year? Buddy, you will never ever see the Leafs win a cup with that sort of thinking. Last Stanley Cup 1967, last finals appearance 1967. Here comes a rebuild.
I see the incentive for Marner to go to Utah because he wants to be THE guy, and in Utah he would be. Give it a go for 1 year and see what happens... who knows, crazy things happen in the NHL
People and the media put so much pressure on the leafs that they can't perform when always asked so many stupid questions
Trade marner to ottawa for brady Tkachuk . Lol
Ottawa would never do that lol
@@Thejdmarmy i know. But, maybe they will sucker to the idea. Thinking marner is awesome!
I think Ottawa would be insane for trading Brady, and I dont know how Brady would be the one they decide to move on from, but crazier things have happened if Gretzky can be traded than anyone can. There also was some rumblings that he may want out after missed the playoffs *again* this year. If he wants out, and Ottawa could be tempted to move him, it could be a win win for both teams. Marner would be likely the best player available to the Sens in the trade market, the Leafs with Marner + could likely give the Sens the best offer to be honest.
Leafs get a guy that is elite with skill but also is just built way different than any of their superstar players and Ottawa gets a guy that could get them to the playoffs better. Essentially, the Leafs get a guy that can make them go deeper in the playoffs and the Sens get a guy that can help them even just get to the playoffs.
Possibly:
Marner
+
Liljegren or Robertson or Both
+
1st rd pick
For
Brady
+
Chychrun
Dunno, could get interesting come July.
That is the best one for one trade there is .
I would love that trade. but Ottawa would never make it happen . throw in MeLander too
Trade Marner are you out of your minds!! He will haunt the Maple leafs for the rest of his career!! That's not how you build a great team ! You need everybody to buy in!!!
Dude, this franchise hasn't played in the Stanley Cup Finals since 1967 - 1967. The Harold Ballard curse still continues. They can make all the trades they want, but this franchise will NOT win the cup in your lifetime.
Mitch Marner to Buffalo for Skinner Savoie and 3 first round picks
It will never happen! LOL
Marner doesn't have than much value. You can keep your Marner then and kiss him goodbye once he will sign for an another team next year as UFA. :)
Leaf fans u are delusional lol why would anyone trade for a small guy who doesn't do anything come playoff time and who earns 11mil?
Retain 50% then maybe you get half decent player back
Let them coping! LOL
Why would anyone want Marner?
No team wants Marner... but any team can lowball Toronto for Marner and it might be work! :)
I would trade RW Marner and C Potus Holmburg and picks or prospects and or G holl for G Jordan Binnington at 50% and LW Pavel Bushnevich 50% and or C Brayden Schenn he good at winning face off and controlling the puck which the leafs suck at big time and Also I if I was the gm I would trade for Mario Ferraro with the sharks
I trade Timothy Lijegren and FNick Robinson and pick or two and prospect for D Mario Ferraro and C Luke Kunin and W Fabian Zetterlund.
And try to sign RD Bratt Pesae to contract
And trade a 1st and good prospect for Clayton Keller
Treveres was the biggest mistake signing. Marner is too talented. Treveres is old and slow.
Be more specific Auston matthews is going nowhere nor Nylander. Marner tavares and all the coaching staff yes.
I’m a Montreal fan I don’t want marner he sucks under pressure and in the playoffs
Why would ANY player go to Toronto? They're in an utter state, the media and fans are a f*cking nightmare for players, and the taxes are high compared to many American markets.
Cmon Steve, 8 years of the same thing and any fanbase would be losing their sanity. 1967.. many reasons why players want to be in Toronto. We all have different opinions- high taxes and tough media exist in a lot of other markets. At least teams like Rangers and Habs have seen finals appearances in the last decade and cups in more recent memory. Media and tax are similar story there
Marner waiving his NMC to go to the ducks lmao get out of here
Fuck, what core guys. And leave Mitch alone.