In regard to Psalms 2:12, it's worth noting that the word “bar/var” in Hebrew can have different meanings depending on the context and the placement of the Masoretic vowel points. The form בַר, as mentioned in the video, typically translates to “clear” or “pure”. However, if one wishes to convey the meaning of “son”, it would be written as בַּר. It is important to consider that the original texts could have presented either “son'”or “pure” as possible interpretations.
Ask any Rabbi and they will tell you this is about the Mashiach (Messiah). You can debate about who that Messiah is…whether Jesus or someone else yet to come but the sages of Judaism do not interpret this as referring to King David but to the future Mashiach to come.
This seems like pretty easy poetry to me.. when the lord says "you are my son, and today I have begotten" it's in reference to the previous verse stating that "I have set my king on Zion", which in turn is a symbol or banner of the davidic blood line being established unto the nations by God forever. Now for the neshqu bar, first and foremost, I don't see why aramaic words wouldn't be apart of the language being that patriarchs spoke it long before the israel went into captivity. With that said a kiss in arab culture and western African can signify you bending the knee and pledging loyalty to the leader or king. For example in Muslim culture its called "baiya" which means to sell, and in this case to someone in a act of obedience, and the person will bend to kiss the hand. So when the verse is saying to "kiss the son unless he become angry", God is warning the nations if they don't bend the knee, he will destroy the nations that go against his kingdom that he's established for his sake.
John 5:39 says that you can be an expert in the scriptures and miss the very God standing in front of you. You might even attack Him and have Him crucified. 2 Corinthians 3:15 says that to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. It goes on the say that whenever their heart turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Paul tells Timothy to study the scriptures, and I strongly agree. But the scriptures can be a veil. The "secret" is to turn your heart to the Jehovah, the very one upon whom your religion is based. Then the veils will come off.
Turn you heart wherever you wish it doesn't change that John, and the NTcare full of it and corrupted the tanach andtm teach the exact opposite of what the tanach and prophets teach
MOSES IS THE ISSUE! With Moses we had national revelations: - 10 plagues, - splitting of the sea - whole nation witnessing commandments at sinai. Thinking of the torah and national revelations certainly puts a barrier for any gospels over my heart. But a veil? Labguage from Jphn is too weak here. It is more like a MAGEN AVRAHAM/ SHIELD OF ABRAHAM Don't feel bad Chris. No ine can defeat the shield of Abraham. That is literally the shield of G-d. As a consolation prize I will help you research the first time it is found in the forah: Bereishit/Genesis 15:1 After these incidents the word of L-rd came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great. Oh wow Chris this comes right after the previous chspters where he defeated the 4 kings. It is quite the shield.
@@ntkmw8058 matthew is no authoritg. And throughout the NT he breaks biblical prohibitions. The Nt is schizophrebic. It does say he came to fuldlfill it. Which just means observe it. There is no such thing as the messiah fulfulling law and laws no longer needing to be observed
Can someone please explain 2nd Samuel 12:8 when Nathan says that David was given the house of Israel and the house if Judah. I thought these 2 kingdoms weren't split until after Solomons reign. Thanks.
I think Genesis chapter48:22 -26 implicitly explained that. Note that Jacob is Israel while Joseph will take over house of Jacob which is Israel while Yahuda (Judah) is blessed for the house of Judah. Note that each tribe had its own King but the ruling houses would only come from Juda and Ephraim (Joseph's second son) in normal circumstances, so Ephraim and Israel may be used interchangeably. Judah is supreme but Joseph's house (Ephraim ) is also blessed to rule. That is why David became a King who's name is still on the lips of everyone today. Note that both this houses are in South Africa, check my channel between August and September this year. i
I know you are not particularly fond of Jesus, but your translation of this Psalm is senseless. Jews today know Bar to mean son and yes this crosses over at times in OT Hebrew. Your translation does not fit the context of the Psalm at all. Follow your own rules of context! The nations reject God. God laughs, rebukes them and says you will serve me. My son is the king. Then he offers the nations to his son. Then he warns the kings and rulers to a) kiss the son or b) arm yourself with purity. A is the clear context. You kiss the hand of the king to show subservience. It concludes with a final warning and promise. Warning if you reject him, but blessing if you take refuge under his rule. Your unbelief is staggering. Stop kicking against the goads. Jesus responds to the invitation of the father in Matthew 28 when he says "Go and make disciples of the nations."
*sigh* bwt i am from Philippines and unfortunately i was born catholic, i am not good in the bible neither know the about Jews and Judaism And don't know Christianity as well. And not so good in english grammar :) , I just want to share my own opinion and observation, and to raise some question. As Rabbi said in another video new testament is a myth, and why myth? i think because NT is written in greek originally and not in Hebrew nor Aramaic? And some characters name were not Jewish such Andrew and Philip. I think they used Philip 'coz his the father of Alexander the great. How about James? Thomas? And how about Judas he notorious one, according to what i know he kissed jesus (the consider "son" according to christian) but what happen him afterwards? and why the author of NT used name judas? To represents Judah? Seems NT is made to destroy Jews. And as far as i know NT started during roman emperor Titus, and i found out that Titus has also account in NT, pls see below Titus 1:10-14 10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 THEY MUST BE SILENCED, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach-and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. What's the meaning of "THEY MUST BE SILENCED"? very simple, this Titus is the author of anti-semitsm. on my point of view, If Titus never steal the Torah and Tanakh there will be no NT, that's simple. Thank you
I SEE NOBODY ANSWERED OR EVEN GAVE YOU A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR CATHOLIC MOM AND DAD SHOULD HAVE NOT SPARED THE ROD. BUT THEN AGAIN, CATHOLICS ARENT A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, THROUGH MASHIACH. SEE HOW UGLY IT IS, WHEN SOMEONE SAYS AND THINKS OF YOUR TAKE OF GOD AND THE FAITH? IT MAKES BOTH BLIND. THERES MY COMMENT AND A BIG THUMBS UP............FORCHRIST TO CORRECT YOU. THAT YOU MAY NOT MISS THE WEDDING. SHALOM
Aramaic use of Son was connected to becoming a Kabbalist . There are no Hebrew Kabbalist without the foundation of Its Native Key language Aramaic. Are you calling people whose teeth broke, Wicked?
No it is not. Read commentary of almost all Jewish sages and it is their almost universal interpretation that this is about the future Jewish Mashiach NOT King David.
Are you defending your position as A Kohen so your throne of Stature will enthrone your righteous judgments as if your God? The Line Of Ephraim becomes as the first born and God forgives their idol worship because they had love … all your Religious doctrines and spiritual authority are As good as Bacon because you teach for Authority and control verses compassion to heal with your knowledge.
Shock survey of Anglican bishops LONDON: More than half of England’s Anglican bishops say Christians are not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to survey published today. The poll of 31 of England’s 39 bishops shows that many of them think that Christ’s miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the Bible. Only 11 of the bishops insisted that Christians must regard Christ as both God and man, while 19 said it was sufficient to regard Jesus as “God’s supreme agent”. One declined to give a definite opinion. The poll was carried out by London Weekend Television’s weekly religion show, Credo. “DAILY NEWS” 25/6/84
Clay, I suggest you learn some basic Hebrew before typing nonsense. This month's wind is virtually non existent, a very warm breeze, which kind of sums up your comment. The only thing that you are full of is hot air.
Christians pick and choose verses to form preconceived arguments. They do this with the help of a Thompson Chain Reference bible which links biblical verses across all books of the Christian Bible It is designed to take topics out of context in order to support their doctrine.
@@Doriesep6622 These evangelicals aren't normal Christians though. They go from verse to verse with highlighters make notes in the margins and go to Bible study as much as 3 times a week. Differs by church and denomination
@@Doriesep6622 then they should not be called Christian. If they do not love the Word, then they do not love Jesus and have not been born again. All I see is strawman arguments... I could pick the least common denominators in Judaism and say that the are the Jews, but that is disingenuous and you know it.
We have words in English bene-fit to be fit to gain what we are worthy of receiving A bene-ficary one who inherits a promise made from a parent or guardian, one who passes down a promise to those worthy to receive. It has nothing to do with being a literal son as Christians falsely create their false doctrine calling a man a god.
Problem: his explanation of Proverbs being about Solomon’s mother speaking Aramaic doesn’t match history. Jews did not start picking up Aramaic till after the exile -almost 300 years after Solomon. Also, the Orthodox Jewish Bible (so not Christians here) also translate the verse as “Kiss the Son”
Rabbi Tovia Singer, I tried ordering the Disputation from your website but I never received it or got confirmation in email that it will be shipped. Do you have it in stock? I
No. God calls himself Israel's Father in several places. Israel is called his firstborn. Christians in the New Testament are also called sons of God. The Jews in the New Testament claim God as their own Father (John 8:41) and simultaneously accuse Jesus of claiming equality with God for the same claim. Being a son of God is no problem at all. 2 Sam 7:12-14. That kind of thinking comes from Christian dogma. Read the Bible yourself.
This is so funny! He accuses Christians of Corrupting the translation of Psalm 2:12, but his own rabbi sages believed that Psalm 2 referred to the Mashiach!!! Rashi (a much later rabbi) even admitted it, even though he disagreed. Just search for Rashi's commentary at the beginning of Psalm 2. It's sad that he has to be dishonest in order to make his point.
"Bar" is used later on in the Psalms to refer to a son so I find it strange it uses both and just adds to the fire..Could it be that the Son if it is a son is referring to David. That the nations must respect David least God is angry.
What I find interesting is that you speak as if this is a blatant attempt by the translators to alter the scripture to suit the “Christian” agenda. You speak as if this is an easy open and shut case. However, unless I happened to miss it, you failed to mention that one of your very own - Isaac Leeser - translated it the same way when he translated the Torah into English. I really find it hard to believe that he would have made the same mistake if it is as obvious and absolute as you make it out to be. The title to this video should really be: Christians and Jewish Translator Isaac Leeser Corrupted Psalm 2:12 and Inserted a Bogus Phrase
Rava, I am not in the habit of betting, but I bet you $1 that Tovia knows who he is. He was a Jew who produced the first Jewish translation of the Bible into English (1853). He translated the passage as - Do homage to the son. Does this mean that he was correct? No. But it does show that the case is not as clear cut as Tovia wants his listeners I believe. I am not saying that Tovia is wrong in his translation, but Tovia is wrong to insist that this was a blatant attempt by "christians" to conform the scripture to their agenda. Tovia wants his listeners to believe that the "christian" translators ignored the obvious in order shape the scripture to their liking, however, this argument loses a whole lot of steam when you have to admit that one of your very own did the same. After all, why would a Jew fail to translate the passage correctly, unless their is something that is not very clear about it. In the early days I had quite a bit of respect for Tovia because I thought that he let the truth determine his agenda. But over time is has become apparent that he is as guilty as the institution called the church because he often lets his agenda shape his truth. This video is just one example. While I do still listen to him from time to time ir order to gain a little bit of Jewish perspective, I certainly don't give his words the same weight that I once did.
Pro 30:5 “EVERY WORD OF ELOHIM IS A TEST. He is a shield to those who take refuge in HIM. Why is it translated Son in Proverbs 31:2 then instead of purity? Prov 31:2 What, my son? and what, son of my womb? and what, son of my vows? Koren Prov 31:2 What, my son? and what, O son of my womb? And what, O son of my vows? Tanakh 1915 before Hezekiah, before the Babylonian exile.. so it can't mean 'son' since they didn't use Aramaic then. There are three places in the writings of the Rabbis that agree to that, in fact in one of them it explicitly addresses the problem. Had 'bar' been in use in Hebrew at such an early period it would have appeared in the prophetic writings, and certainly in those that were written late like Jeremiah. There is Biblical proof that Aramaic was NOT even known to the populous in a period well over a hundred years after Solomon. There is a reason BAR is used and SON because there are TWO SON'S IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ONE IS THE SCAPEGOAT THAT GOES TO AZAZEL & ONE IS THE ANOINTED SON Matthew 27:16-17 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) 16 At that time they had a notorious prisoner, called JESUS BARABBAS. 17 So after they had gathered, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release for you, JESUS BARABBAS or JESUS WHO IS CALLED THE MESSIAH?” Aramaic בר-אבא Bar-Abba meaning "son of the father". OLDER TRANSCRIPTS HAD JESUS BARABBAS (SON OF THE FATHER) THE MURDER GO FREE. THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE DEITY WAS RELEASED AND THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE A PROPHET WAS MURDERED.. THE LAST VERSE IN PSALM 2:12 IS ABOUT THE WRATH OF ELOHIM THAT COMES WHEN KISSING THE WRONG SON THIS IS WHAT I FEEL LOOKING AT THE HEBREW THAT PSALMS VERSE 12 SAYS ESPECIALLY IN CONTEXT TO VERSE 11. KISS BAR NOT LEST HE (YHWH) BE ANGRY AND YOU PERISH ON THE WAY, FOR HIS WRATH WILL SOON BE KINDLED. BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO TAKE REFUGE IN HIM.
How do you deal with the problem of “kiss” then? Not to mention the missing definite article for the translation “the son” ? Did you watch the entire video?
@@SaidAhmad: The original Hebrew doesn't say anything about anyone "kissing" anyone! PLEASE buy yourself a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH" on the cover) so you can see for yourself what God actually said to us at Mt. Sinai. Also, Rabbi Singer has written a 2-vol. set of books entitled "Let's Get Biblical - Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?", which shows us the vast differences between Judaism and Christianity, and the multitude of ways in which Christianity raped the original text to "Christianize" it, and make it 'appear' as though the "Jesus" character appears on every page. .
Psalm 2, is for 1:5-12 Hebrews in Hosea 10:2-4 ( translate the death of the wicked ) Now therefore, do not be mockers, lest your bonds be made strong ( as a covenant with death) for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts, a destruction determined even upon the whole earth. For they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. " My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue clings to my jaws.. You have brought Me to the dust,( of death)." Also they are afraid of height and of terrors in the way, when the almond tree blossoms, the grasshopper is a burden and desire fails. For man goes to his eternal home and the mourners go about the streets. " Kiss the son": (( Aramaic : Turn at my rebuke ! Surely I will pour out my spirit on you ? I will make my words known to you, because I called and you refused !!))
They will go to any extent to deny the truth. All these bogus explanations will be rubbished by the second coming of the Son. Then He will fully understand who the Son is.
No matter WHAT kind of Christian you are, you are NOT following God's words! NO form of Christianity came from God! ALL Christians are following a false, pagan, man-made, anti-God, anti-Jewish, hate-filled, replacement theology work of fiction that God NEVER gave to us ("New Testament"), plus a twisted, mistranslated, taken out of context, bastardized 'version' of God's original words ("Old Testament")! The ONLY scriptures God ever gave to mankind is His ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding today!) Hebrew scriptures (Torah) that He gave to Moses on Mt. Sinai. Nowhere did God EVER tell us to expect a SECOND SET of scriptures. BTW, "Jesus" never said ONE word that is attributed to him in the false, pagan NT, since he was already DEAD at least 20 YEARS by the time it was written! Yet they quote him word-for-word - impossible! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, impossible! Also, God ABHORS human sacrifice (a purely PAGAN ritual!) therefore, the 'Jesus dying on a cross for people's sins' narrative just did NOT happen! If you want to TRULY follow and serve God, you absolutely CAN NOT do it by following a false, pagan message that God NEVER gave to us! We need to learn God's Torah from the Orthodox rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying the original Hebrew, all the way back to Mt. Sinai. Christianity, on the other hand, refused to study the original Hebrew, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God ACTUALLY said to us on Mt. Sinai! PLEASE do some honest research on how your false, pagan religion started, and you WILL discover that it absolutely DID NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
@Lidia Magdalina: We can all tell, just by the way you speak that you have done ZERO "research", except within the false, pagan pages of the Christian Bible - that is NOT scripture that God gave to mankind. God has ZERO to do with Christianity, that preaches AGAINST the ETERNAL words He gave to us at Mt. Sinai. You need to stop talking, because you're adding nothing to the spiritual learning process. You're NOT telling us anything, except falsehoods that God never said to us. I want you to think VERY CAREFULLY and LOGICALLY, about what I'm going to say to you: So if the Hebrew scriptures, God's original, ETERNAL words to us - that YOUR false, pagan religion are BASED ON - are "corrupt" and "twisted", that means your ENTIRE religion is ALSO "corrupt" and "twisted", and falls apart, because you then have ZERO basis to use the Hebrew scriptures WHATSOEVER! You need to use some COMMON SENSE, and actually READ what you typed - what you said is PREPOSTEROUS, and makes ZERO sense! Can you not see that?! If you would just lose your profound arrogance and self-righteousness, and allow yourself to LEARN from the rabbis, who God specifically told us to learn from in Deut. 17:8-11, you would understand what we're saying to you! WHAT exactly do you do with these words that are sitting IN YOUR BIBLE, in Deut. 17??!! Do you just black them out with a black marker like the Gov't redacts words they don't want us to read??!! Does this seem RIGHT to you, to just IGNORE words God said to us and just believe what you WANT to believe??!! Is THIS what your religion is based on - just cherry-picking the verses that match up with what you WANT to believe??!! Do you not even CARE what GOD said to us??!!
@Lidia Magdalina: You can't just go and do "research about contradictions in the Bible", and expect to find God's Truth! Just by saying that, what would come up would ALREADY be biased against the scriptures. There are NO "contradictions" in the ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures God gave to us at Mt. Sinai. To say that there are, is to call God, Creator of the universe, a LIAR and to believe that He was incapable of preserving the scriptures that He gave to us. This is a dangerous, blasphemous and arrogantly self-righteous position to be in. You need to learn from the rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. You CANNOT learn God's Truth from false, pagan Christianity, since they REFUSED to learn the original Hebrew that God gave to us.
In regard to Psalms 2:12, it's worth noting that the word “bar/var” in Hebrew can have different meanings depending on the context and the placement of the Masoretic vowel points. The form בַר, as mentioned in the video, typically translates to “clear” or “pure”. However, if one wishes to convey the meaning of “son”, it would be written as בַּר. It is important to consider that the original texts could have presented either “son'”or “pure” as possible interpretations.
This verse always bothered me growing up in church. Now I know why. Thank you!
Thank you! Very appreciated.
Tovia Singer vs. Matt Slick would be the greatest debate of all time
Todah rabbah rabbi!!!!!
Ask any Rabbi and they will tell you this is about the Mashiach (Messiah). You can debate about who that Messiah is…whether Jesus or someone else yet to come but the sages of Judaism do not interpret this as referring to King David but to the future Mashiach to come.
This seems like pretty easy poetry to me.. when the lord says "you are my son, and today I have begotten" it's in reference to the previous verse stating that "I have set my king on Zion", which in turn is a symbol or banner of the davidic blood line being established unto the nations by God forever. Now for the neshqu bar, first and foremost, I don't see why aramaic words wouldn't be apart of the language being that patriarchs spoke it long before the israel went into captivity. With that said a kiss in arab culture and western African can signify you bending the knee and pledging loyalty to the leader or king. For example in Muslim culture its called "baiya" which means to sell, and in this case to someone in a act of obedience, and the person will bend to kiss the hand. So when the verse is saying to "kiss the son unless he become angry", God is warning the nations if they don't bend the knee, he will destroy the nations that go against his kingdom that he's established for his sake.
John 5:39 says that you can be an expert in the scriptures and miss the very God standing in front of you. You might even attack Him and have Him crucified. 2 Corinthians 3:15 says that to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. It goes on the say that whenever their heart turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Paul tells Timothy to study the scriptures, and I strongly agree. But the scriptures can be a veil. The "secret" is to turn your heart to the Jehovah, the very one upon whom your religion is based. Then the veils will come off.
Turn you heart wherever you wish it doesn't change that John, and the NTcare full of it and corrupted the tanach andtm teach the exact opposite of what the tanach and prophets teach
MOSES IS THE ISSUE!
With Moses we had national revelations:
- 10 plagues,
- splitting of the sea
- whole nation witnessing commandments at sinai.
Thinking of the torah and national revelations certainly puts a barrier for any gospels over my heart. But a veil? Labguage from Jphn is too weak here. It is more like a MAGEN AVRAHAM/ SHIELD OF ABRAHAM
Don't feel bad Chris. No ine can defeat the shield of Abraham. That is literally the shield of G-d. As a consolation prize I will help you research the first time it is found in the forah:
Bereishit/Genesis 15:1 After these incidents the word of L-rd came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Fear not, Abram; I am your Shield; your reward is exceedingly great.
Oh wow Chris this comes right after the previous chspters where he defeated the 4 kings. It is quite the shield.
@@goldengun9970 matthew 5:17, Jesus’ own words; I have not come to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfill them
@@ntkmw8058 matthew is no authoritg. And throughout the NT he breaks biblical prohibitions. The Nt is schizophrebic. It does say he came to fuldlfill it. Which just means observe it. There is no such thing as the messiah fulfulling law and laws no longer needing to be observed
Stop it cuddles🫢. The book of John is believed to be a non authentic copy of a bastardized version of the Gospel. Too soon? 😊🙏🕎
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Can someone please explain 2nd Samuel 12:8 when Nathan says that David was given the house of Israel and the house if Judah. I thought these 2 kingdoms weren't split until after Solomons reign. Thanks.
I think Genesis chapter48:22 -26 implicitly explained that. Note that Jacob is Israel while Joseph will take over house of Jacob which is Israel while Yahuda (Judah) is blessed for the house of Judah. Note that each tribe had its own King but the ruling houses would only come from Juda and Ephraim (Joseph's second son) in normal circumstances, so Ephraim and Israel may be used interchangeably. Judah is supreme but Joseph's house (Ephraim ) is also blessed to rule. That is why David became a King who's name is still on the lips of everyone today. Note that both this houses are in South Africa, check my channel between August and September this year. i
I now have a Tanakh. Which is far more helpful Thank You.
I know you are not particularly fond of Jesus, but your translation of this Psalm is senseless. Jews today know Bar to mean son and yes this crosses over at times in OT Hebrew. Your translation does not fit the context of the Psalm at all. Follow your own rules of context! The nations reject God. God laughs, rebukes them and says you will serve me. My son is the king. Then he offers the nations to his son. Then he warns the kings and rulers to a) kiss the son or b) arm yourself with purity. A is the clear context. You kiss the hand of the king to show subservience. It concludes with a final warning and promise. Warning if you reject him, but blessing if you take refuge under his rule. Your unbelief is staggering. Stop kicking against the goads. Jesus responds to the invitation of the father in Matthew 28 when he says "Go and make disciples of the nations."
The son is King David, silly. 2:7
“Bar” in Hebrew does not mean son. Genius.
*sigh* bwt i am from Philippines and unfortunately i was born catholic, i am not good in the bible neither know the about Jews and Judaism And don't know Christianity as well. And not so good in english grammar :) , I just want to share my own opinion and observation, and to raise some question. As Rabbi said in another video new testament is a myth, and why myth? i think because NT is written in greek originally and not in Hebrew nor Aramaic? And some characters name were not Jewish such Andrew and Philip. I think they used Philip 'coz his the father of Alexander the great. How about James? Thomas? And how about Judas he notorious one, according to what i know he kissed jesus (the consider "son" according to christian) but what happen him afterwards? and why the author of NT used name judas? To represents Judah? Seems NT is made to destroy Jews.
And as far as i know NT started during roman emperor Titus, and i found out that Titus has also account in NT, pls see below
Titus 1:10-14
10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 THEY MUST BE SILENCED, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach-and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.
What's the meaning of "THEY MUST BE SILENCED"? very simple, this Titus is the author of anti-semitsm.
on my point of view, If Titus never steal the Torah and Tanakh there will be no NT, that's simple.
Thank you
I SEE NOBODY ANSWERED OR EVEN GAVE YOU A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR CATHOLIC MOM AND DAD SHOULD HAVE NOT SPARED THE ROD. BUT THEN AGAIN, CATHOLICS ARENT A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, THROUGH MASHIACH. SEE HOW UGLY IT IS, WHEN SOMEONE SAYS AND THINKS OF YOUR TAKE OF GOD AND THE FAITH? IT MAKES BOTH BLIND. THERES MY COMMENT AND A BIG THUMBS UP............FORCHRIST TO CORRECT YOU. THAT YOU MAY NOT MISS THE WEDDING. SHALOM
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Rabbi Singer,where can I get the Hebrew scriptures translated into English that I can trust?...thank you
Yes - where can we get this???!!!
JPS Tanakh
Aramaic use of Son was connected to becoming a Kabbalist . There are no Hebrew Kabbalist without the foundation of Its Native Key language Aramaic. Are you calling people whose teeth broke, Wicked?
He is talking to David so even it it was not mistranslated the son would be David
No it is not. Read commentary of almost all Jewish sages and it is their almost universal interpretation that this is about the future Jewish Mashiach NOT King David.
It's about the Messiah, unless it sounds like Jesus, then it's no longer about the Messiah and it's about the prophet
Really H1248 ?
Dead Sea scrolls proof of that. And kiss the son yeah it got corrupted ma3o ha2 momo
Are you defending your position as A Kohen so your throne of Stature will enthrone your righteous judgments as if your God? The Line Of Ephraim becomes as the first born and God forgives their idol worship because they had love … all your Religious doctrines and spiritual authority are As good as Bacon because you teach for Authority and control verses compassion to heal with your knowledge.
Shock survey of Anglican bishops
LONDON: More than half of England’s Anglican bishops say Christians are not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to survey published today.
The poll of 31 of England’s 39 bishops shows that many of them think that Christ’s miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the Bible.
Only 11 of the bishops insisted that Christians must regard Christ as both God and man, while 19 said it was sufficient to regard Jesus as “God’s supreme agent”. One declined to give a definite opinion.
The poll was carried out by London Weekend Television’s weekly religion show, Credo.
“DAILY NEWS” 25/6/84
Clay, I suggest you learn some basic Hebrew before typing nonsense. This month's wind is virtually non existent, a very warm breeze, which kind of sums up your comment. The only thing that you are full of is hot air.
Christians pick and choose verses to form preconceived arguments. They do this with the help of a Thompson Chain Reference bible which links biblical verses across all books of the Christian Bible It is designed to take topics out of context in order to support their doctrine.
@@Doriesep6622 These evangelicals aren't normal Christians though. They go from verse to verse with highlighters make notes in the margins and go to Bible study as much as 3 times a week. Differs by church and denomination
@@Doriesep6622 then they should not be called Christian. If they do not love the Word, then they do not love Jesus and have not been born again. All I see is strawman arguments...
I could pick the least common denominators in Judaism and say that the are the Jews, but that is disingenuous and you know it.
We have words in English bene-fit to be fit to gain what we are worthy of receiving
A bene-ficary one who inherits a promise made from a parent or guardian, one who passes down a promise to those worthy to receive.
It has nothing to do with being a literal son as Christians falsely create their false doctrine calling a man a god.
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Very interesting comments!
But your fathers killed him because he claimed to be God. And he proved it by rising from death
How about Psalm 2:7
What about Psalm 2:7 - do you actually have a question?!
@@janishart5128 not exactly sure your context?
@@Awakened133: All you said was "How about Psalm 2:7" and I'm say, well, what about the at verse - i.e. what's your question about it?!
Problem: his explanation of Proverbs being about Solomon’s mother speaking Aramaic doesn’t match history. Jews did not start picking up Aramaic till after the exile -almost 300 years after Solomon. Also, the Orthodox Jewish Bible (so not Christians here) also translate the verse as “Kiss the Son”
the Orthodox Jewish Bible is a christian publication by messianics
Rabbi Tovia Singer, I tried ordering the Disputation from your website but I never received it or got confirmation in email that it will be shipped. Do you have it in stock? I
Isnt God calling any person his son problematic for judaism? Regardless of it its jesus or not
No. God calls himself Israel's Father in several places. Israel is called his firstborn. Christians in the New Testament are also called sons of God. The Jews in the New Testament claim God as their own Father (John 8:41) and simultaneously accuse Jesus of claiming equality with God for the same claim. Being a son of God is no problem at all. 2 Sam 7:12-14. That kind of thinking comes from Christian dogma. Read the Bible yourself.
This is so funny! He accuses Christians of Corrupting the translation of Psalm 2:12, but his own rabbi sages believed that Psalm 2 referred to the Mashiach!!! Rashi (a much later rabbi) even admitted it, even though he disagreed. Just search for Rashi's commentary at the beginning of Psalm 2. It's sad that he has to be dishonest in order to make his point.
"Bar" is used later on in the Psalms to refer to a son so I find it strange it uses both and just adds to the fire..Could it be that the Son if it is a son is referring to David. That the nations must respect David least God is angry.
What I find interesting is that you speak as if this is a blatant attempt by the translators to alter the scripture to suit the “Christian” agenda. You speak as if this is an easy
open and shut case. However, unless I happened to miss it, you failed to mention that one of your very own - Isaac Leeser - translated it the same way when he translated the Torah into English. I really find it hard to believe that he would have made the same mistake if it is as obvious and absolute as you make it out to be. The title to this video should really be: Christians and Jewish Translator Isaac Leeser Corrupted Psalm 2:12 and Inserted a Bogus Phrase
Rava, I am not in the habit of betting, but I bet you $1 that Tovia knows who he is. He was a Jew who produced the first Jewish translation of the Bible into English (1853). He translated the passage as - Do homage to the son. Does this mean that he was correct? No. But it does show that the case is not as clear cut as Tovia wants his listeners I believe. I am not saying that Tovia is wrong in his translation, but Tovia is wrong to insist that this was a blatant attempt by "christians" to conform the scripture to their agenda. Tovia wants his listeners to believe that the "christian" translators ignored the obvious in order shape the scripture to their liking, however, this argument loses a whole lot of steam when you have to admit that one of your very own did the same. After all, why would a Jew fail to translate the passage correctly, unless their is something that is not very clear about it.
In the early days I had quite a bit of respect for Tovia because I thought that he let the truth determine his agenda. But over time is has become apparent that he is as guilty as the institution called the church because he often lets his agenda shape his truth. This video is just one example. While I do still listen to him from time to time ir order to gain a little bit of Jewish perspective, I certainly don't give his words the same weight that I once did.
@@Doriesep6622 more strawmen. Keep knocking those strawmen down, professor!
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Pro 30:5 “EVERY WORD OF ELOHIM IS A TEST. He is a shield to those who take refuge in HIM.
Why is it translated Son in Proverbs 31:2 then instead of purity?
Prov 31:2 What, my son? and what, son of my womb? and what, son of my vows?
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Prov 31:2 What, my son? and what, O son of my womb? And what, O son of my vows?
Tanakh 1915
before Hezekiah, before the Babylonian exile..
so it can't mean 'son' since they didn't use Aramaic then.
There are three places in the writings of the Rabbis that agree to that,
in fact in one of them it explicitly addresses the problem.
Had 'bar' been in use in Hebrew at such an early period it would have appeared
in the prophetic writings, and certainly in those that were written late
like Jeremiah.
There is Biblical proof that Aramaic was NOT even known to the
populous in a period well over a hundred years after Solomon.
There is a reason BAR is used and SON because there are TWO SON'S IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ONE IS THE SCAPEGOAT THAT GOES TO AZAZEL & ONE IS THE ANOINTED SON
Matthew 27:16-17 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
16 At that time they had a notorious prisoner, called JESUS BARABBAS. 17 So after they had gathered, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release for you, JESUS BARABBAS or JESUS WHO IS CALLED THE MESSIAH?”
Aramaic בר-אבא Bar-Abba meaning "son of the father".
OLDER TRANSCRIPTS HAD JESUS BARABBAS (SON OF THE FATHER) THE MURDER GO FREE. THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE DEITY WAS RELEASED AND THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE A PROPHET WAS MURDERED.. THE LAST VERSE IN PSALM 2:12 IS ABOUT THE WRATH OF ELOHIM THAT COMES WHEN KISSING THE WRONG SON
THIS IS WHAT I FEEL LOOKING AT THE HEBREW THAT PSALMS VERSE 12 SAYS ESPECIALLY IN CONTEXT TO VERSE 11.
KISS BAR NOT LEST HE (YHWH) BE ANGRY AND YOU PERISH ON THE WAY, FOR HIS WRATH WILL SOON BE KINDLED. BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO TAKE REFUGE IN HIM.
How do you deal with the problem of “kiss” then? Not to mention the missing definite article for the translation “the son” ? Did you watch the entire video?
@@SaidAhmad: The original Hebrew doesn't say anything about anyone "kissing" anyone! PLEASE buy yourself a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH" on the cover) so you can see for yourself what God actually said to us at Mt. Sinai. Also, Rabbi Singer has written a 2-vol. set of books entitled "Let's Get Biblical - Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?", which shows us the vast differences between Judaism and Christianity, and the multitude of ways in which Christianity raped the original text to "Christianize" it, and make it 'appear' as though the "Jesus" character appears on every page. .
Psalm 2, is for 1:5-12 Hebrews in Hosea 10:2-4 ( translate the death of the wicked )
Now therefore, do not be mockers, lest your bonds be made strong ( as a covenant with death) for I have heard from the Lord God of hosts, a destruction determined even upon the whole earth.
For they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit.
" My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue clings to my jaws.. You have brought Me to the dust,( of death)." Also they are afraid of height and of terrors in the way, when the almond tree blossoms, the grasshopper is a burden and desire fails. For man goes to his eternal home and the mourners go about the streets.
" Kiss the son": (( Aramaic : Turn at my rebuke ! Surely I will pour out my spirit on you ? I will make my words known to you, because I called and you refused !!))
They will go to any extent to deny the truth. All these bogus explanations will be rubbished by the second coming of the Son. Then He will fully understand who the Son is.
No matter WHAT kind of Christian you are, you are NOT following God's words! NO form of Christianity came from God! ALL Christians are following a false, pagan, man-made, anti-God, anti-Jewish, hate-filled, replacement theology work of fiction that God NEVER gave to us ("New Testament"), plus a twisted, mistranslated, taken out of context, bastardized 'version' of God's original words ("Old Testament")! The ONLY scriptures God ever gave to mankind is His ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding today!) Hebrew scriptures (Torah) that He gave to Moses on Mt. Sinai. Nowhere did God EVER tell us to expect a SECOND SET of scriptures.
BTW, "Jesus" never said ONE word that is attributed to him in the false, pagan NT, since he was already DEAD at least 20 YEARS by the time it was written! Yet they quote him word-for-word - impossible! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, impossible! Also, God ABHORS human sacrifice (a purely PAGAN ritual!) therefore, the 'Jesus dying on a cross for people's sins' narrative just did NOT happen!
If you want to TRULY follow and serve God, you absolutely CAN NOT do it by following a false, pagan message that God NEVER gave to us! We need to learn God's Torah from the Orthodox rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying the original Hebrew, all the way back to Mt. Sinai. Christianity, on the other hand, refused to study the original Hebrew, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God ACTUALLY said to us on Mt. Sinai!
PLEASE do some honest research on how your false, pagan religion started, and you WILL discover that it absolutely DID NOT come from God, Creator of the universe.
@Abu taj md mahbub Ul alam Yes and Jesus also believed in the prophecy that s virgin would give birth to a child who was called Mighty God.
@Lidia Magdalina: We can all tell, just by the way you speak that you have done ZERO "research", except within the false, pagan pages of the Christian Bible - that is NOT scripture that God gave to mankind. God has ZERO to do with Christianity, that preaches AGAINST the ETERNAL words He gave to us at Mt. Sinai. You need to stop talking, because you're adding nothing to the spiritual learning process. You're NOT telling us anything, except falsehoods that God never said to us.
I want you to think VERY CAREFULLY and LOGICALLY, about what I'm going to say to you: So if the Hebrew scriptures, God's original, ETERNAL words to us - that YOUR false, pagan religion are BASED ON - are "corrupt" and "twisted", that means your ENTIRE religion is ALSO "corrupt" and "twisted", and falls apart, because you then have ZERO basis to use the Hebrew scriptures WHATSOEVER! You need to use some COMMON SENSE, and actually READ what you typed - what you said is PREPOSTEROUS, and makes ZERO sense! Can you not see that?!
If you would just lose your profound arrogance and self-righteousness, and allow yourself to LEARN from the rabbis, who God specifically told us to learn from in Deut. 17:8-11, you would understand what we're saying to you! WHAT exactly do you do with these words that are sitting IN YOUR BIBLE, in Deut. 17??!! Do you just black them out with a black marker like the Gov't redacts words they don't want us to read??!! Does this seem RIGHT to you, to just IGNORE words God said to us and just believe what you WANT to believe??!! Is THIS what your religion is based on - just cherry-picking the verses that match up with what you WANT to believe??!! Do you not even CARE what GOD said to us??!!
@Lidia Magdalina: You can't just go and do "research about contradictions in the Bible", and expect to find God's Truth! Just by saying that, what would come up would ALREADY be biased against the scriptures. There are NO "contradictions" in the ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures God gave to us at Mt. Sinai. To say that there are, is to call God, Creator of the universe, a LIAR and to believe that He was incapable of preserving the scriptures that He gave to us. This is a dangerous, blasphemous and arrogantly self-righteous position to be in. You need to learn from the rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. You CANNOT learn God's Truth from false, pagan Christianity, since they REFUSED to learn the original Hebrew that God gave to us.
@@janishart5128 Check out Hidden mesaages in the Bible Chuck Missler. Yacov a hebrew
Where is Mesiah ben Joseph where is Mesiah bin David? Over 2000 years nothing.
That is as dumb an argument as saying where is return of jesus? 2000 Years and nothing.