I hold a Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering degree from Finland, and it's disheartening to note that a significant portion of my classmates faced challenges in finding relevant employment due to the scarcity of job opportunities in the industry. Instead, they ended up working in fields such as food delivery, truck driving, warehouse labor, or mechanic roles, earning salaries in the range of 10-13 euros per hour. Personally, I made a career shift into web development, and my current situation is much more favorable. One silver lining is that I didn't have to accumulate a substantial student loan for my education, especially considering that much of what I learned during my mechanical engineering studies falls into the category of "nice to know" rather than "need to know." 😄
I tried getting an apprenticeship as a Millwright, they are just as bad about training and refuse to accept first and sometimes second year apprentices.
It depends which engineering field you're talking about and which country. There is definitely a shortage in most if not all trades in Australia (electrical/mechanical especially), that is, a shortage of quality tradesmen. There is plenty of dead-wood out there masquerading as 'trade qualified'. As far as Electrical/Mechanical engineers, that's debatable and it depends. Can't say what the solution is, particularly if you have already gone through the 'university system', but you may have to take a few steps backward before you can move forward. Keep in mind also, that a lot of contracting companies (small business) are run by tradesmen (at least in Australia). If you are a tradie and work on construction sites, you can easily be making 6-figure wages.
Good balanced analysis and i think the job market just doesnt work as we are being told in the news. We say shortage, but wages arent rising and fresh grads are being turned away by the thousands. CS grads are just experiencing what other STEM grads have been dealing with for a while now.
I hold no degree in Engineering. I am technically an HVAC mechanic. But, I found myself engineering HVAC controls, making CAD drawings, programming controllers and building automation systems for public sector jobs. Over time, my employer no longer needed "real" engineers, since actual field experience and reverse engineering capabilities turned out to better than good. I get to "engineer" controls, to my wishes, but to spec, and actually build it (or have sub contractors do some) in the field. These "engineering" projects, pass inspection and get commissioned and have operated trouble free for years. The kicker is that I'm in an union (+ extra pay), with a full pension and benefits. I actually make more than most engineers. The competition among East Asian immigrants engineers is fierce and depressing. Many have multiple degrees, make less and have far less employment stability. Yet, they have the "I'm the Engineer" and flex over us little uneducated trades people, and for the moment they "feel" superior. Personally, I don't care, just get the job done, move your ego and education to the side. They will run back to their office, and converse with other engineer or friends. Or will slavishly follow the spec/drawing to the letter, because they truly don't understand or have no experience, but have authority....to a point. Their job as mostly a paperwork nightmare, filled with fear and the stress of their PE bosses on their back. I have asked some why did they go into engineering, and they say that when they were younger, they liked breaking things apart, and fixing them. Some liked how machines worked, and just wanted to be part of innovations bigger than themselves. In the end, engineering is depressing, when you become a cog in a machine, and not being that kid that builds things, which this "engineer" gets to do. The most depressing is the "Sales Engineer"....absolute soul sucking.....
I think the issue is your company, not the engineering positions. Where the heck do you work ???? Engineers don't follow the spec/drawings, they create them.
I see a lot of advertised engineering positions that want candidates to have ten years experience and know EVERYTHING which is totally unreasonable. Most of my coworkers are highly specialized and struggle acquiring new skills on their own.
You prospective engineers might just want to study Artificial Intelligence. As this just came out: According to Glassdoor, the estimated total pay range for an AI engineer at Microsoft is $196,000-$292,000 per year, with an average base salary of $169,000 and an average additional pay of $68,000. Additional pay may include cash bonuses, stock, commission, profit sharing, or tips. For senior AI engineers at Microsoft, the estimated total pay range is $252,000-$356,000 per year, with an average base salary of $206,000 and an average additional pay of $90,000
In my engineering group, we finally threw up our hands at trying to find an experienced engineer, and hired a kid right out of school. Instead, training him ourselves on our equipment we manufacture, but so far, it's a win-win. Now, looking for another "kid".
I wish the PE exam work experience qualification will be lowered to match a master degree graduation expectancy. I wish engineering job qualification were like trading. Get your license and start working.
This would be a deadly combo, most mechanical engineers, and electrical engineers that I've worked with started off as millwrights or as vfd field service techs. I'm in the same situation, once I finish my vibration analysis category 2 I'm going back to school since my employer is making me do so.
It depends, but the 'right' trade in the 'right' field will provide a solid foundation for any engineering career. The key is, is that you have to be motivated to train and retrain to progress through the 'ranks', over the course of your working life.
At this point, the only career path for doing engineering, is creating a product and works as an engineer for yourself.
Funny enough as an Irish mechanical engineering student I get adverts to move to Canada from the Canadian gov all the time
dont do it, average home price in canada is $800k.
if you want, here in america, we'll take you :D
@@daMillenialTrucker my company can't find enough engineers, plain and simple.
I hold a Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering degree from Finland, and it's disheartening to note that a significant portion of my classmates faced challenges in finding relevant employment due to the scarcity of job opportunities in the industry. Instead, they ended up working in fields such as food delivery, truck driving, warehouse labor, or mechanic roles, earning salaries in the range of 10-13 euros per hour.
Personally, I made a career shift into web development, and my current situation is much more favorable. One silver lining is that I didn't have to accumulate a substantial student loan for my education, especially considering that much of what I learned during my mechanical engineering studies falls into the category of "nice to know" rather than "need to know." 😄
I tried getting an apprenticeship as a Millwright, they are just as bad about training and refuse to accept first and sometimes second year apprentices.
It depends which engineering field you're talking about and which country. There is definitely a shortage in most if not all trades in Australia (electrical/mechanical especially), that is, a shortage of quality tradesmen. There is plenty of dead-wood out there masquerading as 'trade qualified'. As far as Electrical/Mechanical engineers, that's debatable and it depends. Can't say what the solution is, particularly if you have already gone through the 'university system', but you may have to take a few steps backward before you can move forward. Keep in mind also, that a lot of contracting companies (small business) are run by tradesmen (at least in Australia). If you are a tradie and work on construction sites, you can easily be making 6-figure wages.
I did study Comp Sci in LATAM because of a "SHORTAGE" of IT profesionals. I WAS SCAMMED :((( IM CRYING ABOUT 1 YEAR
Good balanced analysis and i think the job market just doesnt work as we are being told in the news.
We say shortage, but wages arent rising and fresh grads are being turned away by the thousands. CS grads are just experiencing what other STEM grads have been dealing with for a while now.
I hold no degree in Engineering. I am technically an HVAC mechanic. But, I found myself engineering HVAC controls, making CAD drawings, programming controllers and building automation systems for public sector jobs. Over time, my employer no longer needed "real" engineers, since actual field experience and reverse engineering capabilities turned out to better than good. I get to "engineer" controls, to my wishes, but to spec, and actually build it (or have sub contractors do some) in the field. These "engineering" projects, pass inspection and get commissioned and have operated trouble free for years.
The kicker is that I'm in an union (+ extra pay), with a full pension and benefits. I actually make more than most engineers. The competition among East Asian immigrants engineers is fierce and depressing. Many have multiple degrees, make less and have far less employment stability. Yet, they have the "I'm the Engineer" and flex over us little uneducated trades people, and for the moment they "feel" superior. Personally, I don't care, just get the job done, move your ego and education to the side.
They will run back to their office, and converse with other engineer or friends. Or will slavishly follow the spec/drawing to the letter, because they truly don't understand or have no experience, but have authority....to a point.
Their job as mostly a paperwork nightmare, filled with fear and the stress of their PE bosses on their back. I have asked some why did they go into engineering, and they say that when they were younger, they liked breaking things apart, and fixing them. Some liked how machines worked, and just wanted to be part of innovations bigger than themselves.
In the end, engineering is depressing, when you become a cog in a machine, and not being that kid that builds things, which this "engineer" gets to do. The most depressing is the "Sales Engineer"....absolute soul sucking.....
I think the issue is your company, not the engineering positions. Where the heck do you work ????
Engineers don't follow the spec/drawings, they create them.
I see a lot of advertised engineering positions that want candidates to have ten years experience and know EVERYTHING which is totally unreasonable. Most of my coworkers are highly specialized and struggle acquiring new skills on their own.
You prospective engineers might just want to study Artificial Intelligence. As this just came out: According to Glassdoor, the estimated total pay range for an AI engineer at Microsoft is $196,000-$292,000 per year, with an average base salary of $169,000 and an average additional pay of $68,000. Additional pay may include cash bonuses, stock, commission, profit sharing, or tips.
For senior AI engineers at Microsoft, the estimated total pay range is $252,000-$356,000 per year, with an average base salary of $206,000 and an average additional pay of $90,000
In my engineering group, we finally threw up our hands at trying to find an experienced engineer, and hired a kid right out of school. Instead, training him ourselves on our equipment we manufacture, but so far, it's a win-win. Now, looking for another "kid".
I wish the PE exam work experience qualification will be lowered to match a master degree graduation expectancy. I wish engineering job qualification were like trading. Get your license and start working.
shiiiieet im a local truck driver and a millenial, i made $93k last year. balllllllllliiinnn
you think that is a good wage? That is day-1 beginner engineer wage.
appreciate you channel bro.
So do you think a high school student that is thinking of engineering should have a back up diploma in a trade skill?
This would be a deadly combo, most mechanical engineers, and electrical engineers that I've worked with started off as millwrights or as vfd field service techs. I'm in the same situation, once I finish my vibration analysis category 2 I'm going back to school since my employer is making me do so.
It depends, but the 'right' trade in the 'right' field will provide a solid foundation for any engineering career. The key is, is that you have to be motivated to train and retrain to progress through the 'ranks', over the course of your working life.
can't hurt, and will probably really help.
So as a Civil Engineer, I’m ok
Operator/technician experience in your field is seen as a big plus for almost any engineer working with physical assets.
Interesting. Thanks. toronto