Is this still one of the best electric cars? 2025 Kia EV6 facelift!

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @adrianupnorth
    @adrianupnorth 14 днів тому +19

    Nice car. I've just bought the E Niro. Kia make such capable EV's. Even the doom an gloom farmer down the road believes in climate change now. The weather and seasons are all over the place.

    • @Stewiedude1
      @Stewiedude1 13 днів тому +5

      I wish people were smarter and didn't have to wait until it directly affects them to realise this.
      Jeremy Clarkson is a prime example of willful ignorance until it's his problem

    • @olirc
      @olirc 12 днів тому

      @@Stewiedude1 😂😂

  • @barriepountney3598
    @barriepountney3598 13 днів тому +3

    A excellent review must say I am not the biggest fan of electric cars but cars like that are slowly winning me over 😊

  • @RodneyCurtis
    @RodneyCurtis 13 днів тому +16

    Oh my goodness; talk about Climate Change AS MUCH AS YOU FEEL LIKE!! It is one of the most important, existential issues facing all of us. Thank you so much for talking about it, whether (weather) here or in your other videos, including the ones where you attended the COP conference.

  • @chasf3433
    @chasf3433 12 днів тому +5

    Kia only fitting a heat pump to the most expensive UK EV3 & EV6 models is a bad move. It is surely most needed on the smallest battery versions. They use the excuse that no one was specificy a heat pump when it was a £1000 option , perhaps they would have had more takers at £350 !!!

  • @tooflesstesla
    @tooflesstesla 13 днів тому +1

    Great car video. Interesting when reversing that you still like to turn your head to look through your rear window ... why? 🤔Would like to see you do more EV reviews please 😎

  • @lynsmith1096
    @lynsmith1096 13 днів тому +1

    Good review and very nice looking car

  • @tomcurran65
    @tomcurran65 13 днів тому +1

    Doing so well until the "wood effect"🤣 Good review again, good car!

  • @Pottery4Life
    @Pottery4Life 9 днів тому

    Thank you.

  • @kevinn1158
    @kevinn1158 12 днів тому +1

    This is a very sharp redesign but a shame Kia never gave it a pano roof.

  • @ebeirne1
    @ebeirne1 13 днів тому

    What method of range calculation are you using?

  • @dannydanny9875
    @dannydanny9875 7 днів тому

    Buttery Smooth!

  • @ziploc2000
    @ziploc2000 13 днів тому +3

    I feel the industry is reacting to the "range anxiety" issue by putting in bigger batteries, just so on those rare long trips you can take fewer 15 minute breaks.
    If you had the same car with a smaller battery you'd get better energy efficiency because the car would be lighter, and still be able to make 95% of your annual journeys without resorting to any fast charging.
    This one works out at about 4 miles/kWh, very nice in a car of this size. Would people trade a smaller battery and shorter maximum range for 5 miles/kWh, given how rarely anyone actually wants to drive 5 hours at 70 mph without a single rest break?
    It feels like people are buying cars they can use for their annual family holiday, when what they really need is a car for their daily commute.

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому

      smaller battery equals greater charging cycles per distance, equals greater degradation over time, which equals a shorter vehicle service life.
      I personally drive regularly from England to the Highlands of Scotland. Even this EV with a larger range, is only half that of my diesel E Class Mercedes at 650 miles at highway speeds and reducing every year with degradation, which my diesel doesn't. Also owning an EV myself, that range figure given for the EV6, you wouldn't get at constant highway speeds. We can take full advantage of high ranges by sharing the driving and eating, drinking and resting in the passenger seat, leaving 5 minute pit stops if we are in a hurry for other requirements, resulting in a much more logistically able vehicle long distance. Bladder range stops, is a misnomer compared to much longer charging time stops, invented by Robert Llewelyn, I believe ?

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 13 днів тому +1

      @@FredFox-m9v Almost but not quite.
      Smaller battery but greater efficiency could still mean fewer charging cycles. e.g. car A has a 100 kWh Battery and gets 4 miles/kWh, and car B has an 80 kWh battery, but gets 5 miles/kWh. Both would have a 400 mile (nominal) range, but B has a smaller battery. Now if car B has an 85 kWh battery, but nothing else changes, it will have a smaller lighter battery, greater energy efficient, and greater range (425 miles). So it's a balancing act.
      I did avoid the very small range EVs like the Chevrolet Spark, Fiat 500e and the old Nissan Leaf, and went for a used Chevrolet Bolt with a 259 mile nominal range and good energy efficiency (4 miles/kWh).
      Regarding your 650 mile drive to the Scottish Highlands, yes an EV is not at its best at motorway speeds, and especially in the cold as Scotland is wont to have year round, but as EV tech improves, will we reach a point where you could do that trip on one charge, or with one 20 minute recharge stop? I can't recall a road trip in my life where I wanted to drive continuously for 10 hours, even with a change of driver.
      I also suspect we're going to find battery degradation less of an issue as battery technology continues to improve, either through slower degradation, or cheaper replacement batteries.

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому

      @ziploc2000 we are a long time waiting for better lithium ion batteries. They were released to the market in 1991 (33 years ago ) their improvement so far has been minimal. Also a car uses most of it's energy to push air aside, weight has much less effect and hence with a heavy and light car of the same design and shape, would make little difference. The other thing is, have you heard about the latest bolt recall for fire risk, you have to leave it outside to charge, only up to 80% as well, according to chevrolet for cars affected ?

    • @DanielBrownOre
      @DanielBrownOre 13 днів тому

      FYI, this generation battery holds more but its actually 2 lbs less, so at least they are increasing density before adding even more weight

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому +1

      @@DanielBrownOre not much difference then in a 2 Tonne car ?

  • @SamKhoury
    @SamKhoury 5 днів тому

    0:33 I believe you meant the GT is coming out not the GT-Line.
    6:31 i-Pedal is not the same as One-Pedal driving. i-Pedal controls the level of regenerative braking from 0 to 3. One-Pedal Driving increases the regenerative braking amount to above Level 3 so it will stop the car for you automatically without using the brake pedal.
    11:56 Didn't your top of the line GT-Line S have a digital rear view mirror? It can be turned on and off so maybe it was off when you drove the car and you didn't know that feature is new in the 2025. The Korean 2025 EV6 GT-Line has it because I saw it in videos so I'm pretry sure yours did too but it might have been off so you didn't see it.

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey5390 13 днів тому

    I was invited to a "Pre-launch" of the original at a local dealer.
    As a "Large Unit" (1.94m) I found it "space compromised", requiring a not quite "F1" driving position.

  • @DanielBrownOre
    @DanielBrownOre 13 днів тому

    FYI Those two lines between the climate and multimedia button switch means you can press anywhere between the two lines to switch, you didn't have to press precisely on each icon. This makes the switch a little less annoying

  • @Sailorman6996
    @Sailorman6996 13 днів тому +11

    One pedal driving don't give you more range!
    This myth need's to die!
    Coasting give you more range!
    As you brake with your brake pedal - you will regenerate as much as if you let foot off throttle pedal in one pedal mode.

    • @sherb111
      @sherb111 13 днів тому

      Depends if your'e driving in town or on motorway

    • @colinstanley8678
      @colinstanley8678 13 днів тому

      If you knew how one pedal drive worked...

    • @Sailorman6996
      @Sailorman6996 13 днів тому +1

      @@colinstanley8678 I know basically how all modern electric car's work. Increase speed and energy comes from battery including losses, decrease speed and energy back to the battery excluding losses. Losses is key to why one pedal driving is worse than normal driving - accelerate, coasting and brake.

    • @Sailorman6996
      @Sailorman6996 12 днів тому +1

      @@sherb111 not much, same goes for both situations, one pedal is never giving more range. It's just giving you convenience

    • @colinstanley8678
      @colinstanley8678 12 днів тому +1

      @@Sailorman6996 Yep. All those words and still nothing

  • @michaelkinsella1559
    @michaelkinsella1559 12 днів тому

    Great review, and considering one but no idea how you can achieve a 5 star safety rating and turn off a speeding indicator surely that reduces the safety for those in the car and out of the car.

  • @QuesrForPaul
    @QuesrForPaul 13 днів тому +1

    Did you call the brake discs "wood effect"?

    • @karlInSanDiego
      @karlInSanDiego 13 днів тому +1

      Did you call the wooden things "beak discs"? Yeah, I saw that. Clearly you don't appreciate nature as much as the rest of us. If they were beak discs, woodpeckers would get their little selves caught in them, and that's ludicrous.

    • @QuesrForPaul
      @QuesrForPaul 13 днів тому

      Ha!

  • @megapangolin1093
    @megapangolin1093 13 днів тому

    Great car, Eilis, looks good, few too many dirt traps at the front and on the wheels, perhaps. Heads up display-perfect. Love the pale coloured steering wheel, no chance of any mucky fingerprints left on there thank goodness. 380bhp? 100 more than my Boxster S, and faster 0-60 too. Family transport? Perhaps cars are getting too powerful now, perhaps smaller motors and batteries to give less weight on the roads to reduce potholes, and of course to reduce Climate Change might be worthwhile, after all on those roads, all cars can only top out at 60mph. You look like you had a fab time, the car is really impressive. Well done.

    • @DanielBrownOre
      @DanielBrownOre 13 днів тому +1

      Lighter weight will come with solid state batteries, besides it weighs as much as many ICE SUV out there. The motors make little difference in weight or efficiency so it's "free"to have plenty of power on tap, simply not use it and still get great efficiency. My '24 gets almost as much efficiency as the much lighter Leaf when I'm not on the juice pedal, lol.

  • @dugfriendly
    @dugfriendly 13 днів тому +2

    Big fan of this style! Like the Zeekr 001 ❤

  • @Baconfish
    @Baconfish 13 днів тому

    They've gone to the trouble of designing a panel that switches between climate controls and shortcuts, but it still puts the volume control on the wrong side for a rhd car?

    • @grantrandall1674
      @grantrandall1674 13 днів тому

      @Baconfish why do you say the volume controls on the wrong side for RHD? The driver has a volume control on the steering wheel so the other should be on the left hand side of the car for the passenger. It is. Works the same on my Peugeot 308!

    • @Baconfish
      @Baconfish 13 днів тому

      @@grantrandall1674 But that's not why the volume knob's on the left in a 308; it's also on the left on the LHD version before they converted the design to RHD, they just didn't bother to move it to the driver's side.

    • @grantrandall1674
      @grantrandall1674 13 днів тому

      ​@@Baconfishmaybe, but I still say it is more useful on the passenger side!

    • @andrewharrison6865
      @andrewharrison6865 12 днів тому +1

      The driver has volume controls on the steering wheel. The volume control on the left is convenient for the passenger.

  • @karlInSanDiego
    @karlInSanDiego 13 днів тому +2

    Eilis, pro tip. Tell future junket wranglers that you care more about the planet than the rest of those car journos and generally review actual sustainable transportation, e-bikes. The'll put you in the 2 wheel drive, single motor varient which has less production emissions, is more energy efficient, and when the battery is smaller, costs less too. Triple win for the planet and you and one less motor to worry about fixing. We can think of it like paying it forward in the coffee queue, only you're saving a motor for the next car they sell. You'll make up for the lower range with a train ticket when you travel far away, or pack an e-bike in the boot. EV6 is mega. We almost bought one, but got an i4 instead. Both are great relative efficiency.

    • @grahamkearnon6682
      @grahamkearnon6682 13 днів тому +1

      If you have a more capable vehicle, the vehicle will be wanted down the road by 2nd, 3rd, 4th and, dare I guess 5th owner.

    • @karlInSanDiego
      @karlInSanDiego 13 днів тому

      @grahamkearnon6682 3 year car ownership is incredibly unsustainable. Lease or corporate car short term ownership devalues all cars by creating a glut of used cars at any given time, most of which took a massive 1st owner depreciation. Devalued cars get scrapped sooner when an expensive repair costs more than a car is worth on the used market. If we have any hope of continuing to drive cars under zero carbon limits, we need to buy for long term ownership, spend the money to maintain and keep cars on the road. 4 and 5 owner cars don't actually exist among most car's lifetime, nor should they. Buy the car that suits you, not the car that tries to somewhat hedge 1st. buyer short term depreciation.

  • @nickclarkuk
    @nickclarkuk 8 днів тому +1

    If you have a minor hit to the bottom of your car, it could be written off by replacing the entire battery. I’ve seen quotes of around $56,000 for a replacement for the EV6. Manufactures need to offer battery repair and servicing instead of replacing the entire thing. It’s crazy!

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 13 днів тому

    The shame is that the poor thing has the Quartic Steering Wheel that was invented by British Leyland for the Austin Allegro!!

  • @meryuk
    @meryuk 13 днів тому

    Looks a bit like cupra, so it looks good

  • @RandomSubscriptions
    @RandomSubscriptions 12 днів тому

    Nobody noticed the right turn and skipping the roundabout completely?!?!?

    • @trilogy10100
      @trilogy10100 2 дні тому

      I noticed that and I was looking for comments if anyone else noticed.

  • @n1vca
    @n1vca 10 днів тому

    You obviously haven't spent much time in Kia/Hyundai/Genesis cars ... when driving backwards into a street, there is nothing to worry about ... just look at your ultra wide angle monitor and if your cars steering wheel vibrates like crazy, instantly stop rolling backwards, because then something is moving somewhere near or within your drive path ... the rear cross traffic detection is just fantastic, no reason to even turn your head unless there might be somthing at or in front of the C-pillar.
    Regarding Climate change is a great reminder, don't be shy about it, its sadly very real, look at what happened in Spain😢. Its just funny to say that while you spend your time driving slowly in the most energy wasteful high performance sport mode, a mode that I only use when quickly pulling into fast and busy traffic, else I am always in eco-mode, which more than powerful enough for daily commutes. It would have been interesting to know how the noise attenuation is compared to the older version.
    Thank you very much for displaying this great car and greetings from Munich, Germany.

  • @karlInSanDiego
    @karlInSanDiego 13 днів тому +2

    Please don't use ADAS on country roads. You'll flatten a cyclist. Please everyone, drive the car yourself. It's not designed for actual auto steering, and this one has no LIDAR.

    • @gary63693
      @gary63693 13 днів тому

      But what if we want to flatten a cyclist? Surely they need to be catered for?

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 13 днів тому +3

      I'm concerned that all these driver assistance features will gradually (or rapidly) erode driver abilities. I've heard people say that their lane assist drove them INTO a cyclist, and speed detection systems are unreliable. Better to control the car yourself, and pay attention to your driving.

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 13 днів тому

    The price of glass has increased, so windows in the car are going to be smaller rather than larger!!

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 13 днів тому

    Nice car!! How about reviewing a campervan rather than a car? Then you’ll be more comfortable if you go away on road trips.

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому

      They tried that with the ID buzz, couldn't get it designed, within the licence weight because of the batteries in addition to the camper van stuff. Low range as well.

  • @스피겔스파잌
    @스피겔스파잌 10 днів тому

    당신이 아름다워서
    자동차는 안보이고 당신만 보입니다 😊

  • @stephenwensley9328
    @stephenwensley9328 13 днів тому

    That rear end still looks like it got on the wrong end of a game of fruit ninja

  • @FredFox-m9v
    @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому +1

    I've got an electric bike and an electric car, I would buy another e bike but I would never buy another electric car. Depreciation, battery degradation and terrible logistical ability has proved to be the end of my EV car journey and at nearly £60k, you would have to be mad to buy this one, nowing what I know now.

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman 13 днів тому +1

      What depreciation in price are you seeing? And what degradation has your battery got that has caused that? Because if it is as bad as you say and you're under warranty surely you can get a new battery?

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому

      @colinwiseman read the manufacturer warranty. it says " at their discretion "
      they will return the battery back up to 9 battery bars ( not a new one ) up to 100k miles and 8 years for a 30 kwhr. Just before the 8 years but only about 40k miles, my car had 8 battery bars at the time. So to get the additional only 1 battery bar, I had to pay myself to get it checked and it had to have had a battery check yearly as well with the service. Who gets a 7 - to 8 year old low mileage EV serviced every year ? The car has been used normally, never left full for days or on the charger, or never regularly and constantly rapid charged. My car battery is ambient cooled but even modern id3's ( battery life channel ) are losing 10% in 2 years.
      The fact is ALL batteries degrade, with time and or use cycles and more recent buyers, will find that out with time. Obviously my car is almost worthless now, it has done all it's depreciating in the past. My next door neighbour's I pace is presently losing about £1k per month, after buying it second hand ( 19 reg ).

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому

      @colinwiseman read the manufacturers warranty. it says " at their discretion "
      they will return the battery back up to 9 battery bars ( not a new one ) up to 100k miles and 8 years. Just before the 8 years but only about 40k miles, my car had 8 battery bars at the time. So to get the additional only 1 battery bar, I had to pay myself to get it checked and it had to have had a battery check yearly as well with the service. Who gets a 7 - to 8 year old low mileage EV serviced every year ? The car has been used normally, never left full for days or on the charger, or never regularly and constantly rapid charged. My car battery is ambient cooled but even modern id3's ( battery life channel ) are losing 10% in 2 years.
      The fact is ALL batteries degrade, with time and or use cycles and more recent buyers, will find that out with time. Obviously my car is almost worthless now, it has done all it's depreciating in the past. My next door neighbour's I pace is presently losing about £1k per month, after buying it second hand ( 19 reg ).

    • @FredFox-m9v
      @FredFox-m9v 13 днів тому +2

      @colinwiseman read the manufacturers warranty. it says " at their discretion "
      they will return the battery back up to 9 battery bars ( not a new one ) up to 100k miles and 8 years. Just before the 8 years but only about 40k miles, my car had 8 battery bars at the time. ( now has 7 battery bars out of 12 in the 30 kwhr battery ). So to get the additional only 1 battery bar, I had to pay myself to get it checked and it had to have had a battery check yearly as well with the service. Who gets a 7 - to 8 year old low mileage EV serviced every year ? The car has been used normally, never left full for days or on the charger, or never regularly and constantly rapid charged. It is a misnomer that you automatically get a new battery. My car battery is ambient cooled but even modern id3's ( battery life channel ) are losing 10% in 2 years.
      The fact is ALL batteries degrade, with time and or use cycles and more recent buyers, will find that out with time. Obviously my car is almost worthless now, it has done all it's depreciating in the past. My next door neighbour's I pace is presently losing about £1k per month, after buying it second hand ( 19 reg ).

    • @colinwiseman
      @colinwiseman 12 днів тому

      ​@@FredFox-m9v I was just asking questions 👍 I never pay to get my battery checked. I bought the kit to do it myself. Sounds like you've not had a good time with it, which is a shame.

  • @ianmcmillan5590
    @ianmcmillan5590 9 днів тому

    Shame about the ridiculous price 😮

  • @avronaut
    @avronaut 13 днів тому +1

    Too big. Too expensive. Take a look at the Leapmotor T03.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 13 днів тому

      That would be more in the Kia EV3 ballpark.

    • @avronaut
      @avronaut 13 днів тому

      @@ziploc2000 Ballpark? This is how guys who are insecure about their physical attributes tend to speak.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 13 днів тому

      @@avronaut Goodness, you misunderstood my post, and decided a personal attack was appropriate.
      I drive a Bolt EV. Not a Bolt EUV, those are too big. I like small cars and small EVs, they're highly efficient, perfect for around town driving which most people do 95% of the time, and cheaper.
      Kia are making a smaller EV than the EV6 reviewed here. It's called the EV3. If I were in the market for a small EV I'd be looking at the EV3. Leapmotor aren't available in the US or I'd be looking at those too.
      A ballpark is a place where baseball is played. The expression "in the ballpark" means "roughly similar to". This is a common expression in the USA, but maybe you are unacquainted with it.
      So the Leapmotor T03 isn't an appropriate alternative to an EV6 because it's aimed at a different market segment, not the market segment where you and I reside.

    • @avronaut
      @avronaut 13 днів тому

      ​@ziploc2000 I see. So I ask to apologize. This channel is known for e bikes and in this respect I findthat reviews of such large cars do not fit

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 13 днів тому

      @@avronaut Fair enough. Eilis is branching out to appeal to a greater audience, there's only so much that can be said about eBikes. I bought one a year ago, and we have 3 custom-built reclining eTrikes, so my personal interest in eBike reviews is pretty much done for the next decade.
      There's a lot of ways we can use electricity to replace other power sources, and I think Electroheads was chosen as the channel name so that they can cover a variety of topics.

  • @robertregan2305
    @robertregan2305 2 дні тому

    It's a beautiful beautiful EV 😍
    1 of the best out there the looks are so sexy 😍
    And I must say u reviewed it lovely 😍 mwahh xX

  • @neilp1885
    @neilp1885 12 днів тому

    9:41 did you go the wrong way around a mini roundabout (or fail to go around the central markings if you prefer to say it that way)? 😮
    Maybe don't include footage of your driving offences in your reviews! 🤣

    • @bodrulm1
      @bodrulm1 11 днів тому

      😂 she did indeed cut across the road side of the road on the mini roundabout

  • @johnnorth9355
    @johnnorth9355 13 днів тому

    2.5 Tons ? Good grief !

  • @aquilles10
    @aquilles10 12 днів тому

    Everything is fun and games until you have to take the car to Kia's third rate service centers.

  • @garryellis3085
    @garryellis3085 12 днів тому

    How come you can't use your phone app to open the frunk? Usual crappy tech. Not impressed at all. 😢😢

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  • @SirHackaL0t.
    @SirHackaL0t. 13 днів тому

    Why does an electric car have a Start/Stop button?

    • @avronaut
      @avronaut 13 днів тому

      Really?

    • @UnderWarranty
      @UnderWarranty 13 днів тому

      where was that ? didn't see it

    • @marnig9185
      @marnig9185 13 днів тому +2

      It's for old emotional compromised people that don't get it like all the other beeps and Bobs😂

    • @leejohnson3209
      @leejohnson3209 13 днів тому

      There is one, I think it's a really expensive one called a Lucid Air or something that you just get in and drive. I think you need the fob on your person so it unlocks the door automatically and then you just put it in drive and go.

    • @UnderWarranty
      @UnderWarranty 13 днів тому

      @@leejohnson3209 Meh any car can do that if you hire chauffeur hehe but the electric MGs do that as well unlock and start when you put your foot on pedal

  • @daveguitart7522
    @daveguitart7522 12 днів тому

    There are better electric cars out there kia would not be on my list of cars tesla Toyota good video but sorty no kia for me

  • @IrisFox97
    @IrisFox97 12 днів тому

    I don't trust kia gas cars in terms of reliability and I don't trust kia electric cars in terms of reliability as well

    • @bodrulm1
      @bodrulm1 11 днів тому +1

      Statistics and surveys about actual reliability prove you wrong about Kias. They are amongst the best, better than Germans and comparable to Japanese reliability

    • @IrisFox97
      @IrisFox97 11 днів тому

      @bodrulm1 I doubt that but okay

  • @Andrew.-.-
    @Andrew.-.- 13 днів тому

    Hired a Kia was like a ball or plastic cheap crap

  • @justinsane7128
    @justinsane7128 13 днів тому

    Electric cars are dead😅😅😅😅😅