Pro Fence Builder Reacts to DIY Fence Post Installation
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- How to set a fence post is one of the most controversial issues in the fencing world, and rightfully so. Today we're looking at a DIY fence post installation method. Is this method proper and correct? Or is this fence post going to fail prematurely? Let's dig into it
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I worked a season as a wood fence installer for a local company in Akron, Ohio. I was on the Cedar wood fence crew, myself and another man who really knew what he was doing. Being the grunt I mixed concrete in a wheel barrow, he used a Little Beaver auger and the fence sections were prebuilt in our plant. We used a string line and did not attach it to the post but did bring the posts right up to the line. So dig hole set post install fence section rinse repeat. Not by my skills but the young man that I worked with always got us dead on stright. We did board on board and the last thing we would do and the end of the day was look down the fence line thruogh the gap and it was always perfect, we called it the "Zone". As I said not my skill but his.
I think that was a great video for the DIY crowd not the Pros. I’m by no means a Pro and am a DIY’er myself but I have done research and watched plenty of pros setting posts and fences and one can see those individuals have the experience to talk about the benefits and issues with certain methods used and often provide that knowledge and information for folks like me who want to do a good job but don’t necessarily do it for a living. I just care enough to want to know the proper way and do a good job so I can get the most out of my money spent on the projects I undertake. Great job on the Pro’s comments and input. I sincerely appreciate that.
I built my first fence with your help using the postmaster posts last summer and I’m proud to say it is still standing and I’m in the Windy City. I used cedar pickets and went with the board on board look with a top cap, I stained it chestnut color and get compliments all the time. Wood prices were through the roof which made it easier to chose on doing it myself. Thanks for the help, big fan
Fantastic, I’m so happy to hear that!
postmaster isn't yet in Europe availble sad enough although a very expensive post....
@@JoeEverest Joe, any effective difference between Lifetime and Postmaster metal fence posts? (Other than the $5 higher price the P-posts go for at the big box orange store?)
Place I grew up there was 6 to 12 inches of sandy soil followed by solid sandstone, using hand tools post holes for a washing line was a weekend project by itself.
Answer is to plant a hedge. No concrete to mix & they don't rot off at the base... You do have to trim them though.
First of all I love your show and enjoy listening to you talk about fences. I hear you talk about putting gravel in the bottom of a fenced post hole and I know you go either way on that subject. I recently refurbished my 25 year old fence. I had to reset 20 of the 25 post I had, either because they were leaning or showing signs of rot. I found that all The Rot occurred within 6 in of the ground. I have wet clay soil and found that they were sitting right on the damp ground with no gravel. There was little or no rot at that level. I did some research and found that for rot to really occur you need oxygen. At 3 ft down I don't imagine there's much oxygen available. Just thought I would give you my opinion
I’m digging post holes right now for a show steer pen. Lots of your tips are coming into play. As far as ground goes…. It’s about 18” of kind of tough soil, the last 6-8” is hard limestone, clay stuff that is breaker bar only! Still not as hard as my fence at the house. That ground, killed an auger like his! Haha I’m in central Texas so I went 24-26” deep for 5’ above ground.
Sounds solid!
Thank you so much for giving the post line explanation at the beginning. I am doing my first fence and this channel has be so helpful. Funny thing is I got this video recommended to me as I was watching the video you are reacting to haha. I thought it was odd when he just poured water in expecting it to do the mixing for him.
Very welcome, always happy to help!
Actually, those Are the instructions Quikcrete gives - "no mixing."
Exactly the same in Scotland, it’s like years ago everything was backfilled, rocks, house bricks, basically anything and anything
I like to set my end posts first and string line off them. I'll shim the string maybe maybe eighth off the end posts so I can eyeball the gap on the line posts instead of using the measuring tape.
Is there a standard for how close and how deep a post should be set next to the slab on grade foundation of a home? If the answer depends on region of the country, I'm referring to Orange County California. The fence posts are needed to support a short fence roughly 8' long, which will include a gate within that length to separate a residential home's front year from its back yard, and extend from the side of the home to the property line where a brick wall separates the properties. Also, the fence/gate will need to endure "Santa Ana Winds", seasonal winds in Southern California with gusts up to ~35 MPH. Due to this combination of factors, I'm also interested in your recommendation for the most appropriate type of materials to use for durability and security. For instance, are Lifetime Fence Posts and chainlink a good recommendation? If so, what else can be done to add privacy to the chainlink fence. A privacy style of fence required in California because a swimming pool is in the backyard. The factors involved leave me stumped on the most appropriate solution. I appreciate your expertise and advice. If you have a business phone and would not mind taking my call, I would appreciate an opportunity to discuss this effort. Thank you.
When it comes to setting post I like to fill with cement. Then dome the cement around post to drain water away from post. Seem to have had pretty good results. Never have had a problem or complaint so I continue with this method.
Sounds like a solid process!
I installed a lot of fence in Clarksville TN and we had the round clay rocks there. We called them “baby heads”
How important is running the water away from the post base if it's pressure treated?
working solo i like to premix my regular cement then by the time i got the 3rd bag in it just holds it self in place but i still got time to adjust if needed
Great process!
Thanks for the video 👍watching from Davenport Iowa
Very welcome, appreciate you watching!
For most applications I absolutely HATE that red bag fast set concrete. I was doing an area drain and had to pour about a 12” x 12” section of concrete. I mixed it and left it a little more on the wet side. poured it, just kinda hand leveled it real quick. Ran to the van to get a trowel came back 30 seconds later and it was hard as an absolute rock. Couldn’t do anything to it. It looked to bad I had to break it out and redo it. Pissed me off so bad! I’m talking from pouring to “fully” set was under 90 seconds. 😡 never again.
I’m doing a fence as we speak I watched his UA-cam I just watch yours both are extremely helpful so thank you the only other thing I picked up from somebody else is when you’re pouring the concrete and make sure your back is towards the wind so you don’t want to inhale it if you can wear a mask cause silica I guess is not too good for you That’s the only thing I would add again thank you brother I’ll be busting my ass here in a few minutes.
In the San Francisco Bay Area - I've never heard any talk about a frost line here. Apparently its important in many other psrts of the country.
Fair, if the parts of the country to don’t actually have winter weather don’t need to worry about a frost line.
You don’t even know I’ll be here in the northwest Washington and Oregon it’s brutal and I dig it with the little beaver all the time, It’s all about maintenance of your auger bits keeping them good and tuned up sharp rock bars tight hand diggers All go hand-in-hand
Great point, maintenance is huge!
I am replacing horizontal slats on my fence, the 4x4 pressure treated posts are in good shape, although one has a slight lean. Does it make sense for me to add a cemented steel post next to a few of the 4x4s and attach to 4x4, to add strength and longevity. I was thinking of doing it just at a few posts, for example near the house, and at the hinge side of gate. The steel post would not really be visible when I am done
Great tips Joe, thanks!
I have pulled some dry pack post before and over half cement was still powder and gravel. Kinda seemed a waste at that point why not just use gravel.
my holes i had to dig old river delta by the looks of it. 2 feet of clay with river rocks , then about 2 of sand and coal then more clay. lol
Oof!
Canbyou ise quickset under the post as a fill in clay soil to allow posts to stay in level with adjacent ppsts
You guys are lucky you have several fences and posts that aren't available over here in Europe....we have to do it with round wooden or metal posts or square wooden posts.....I made my fence as an amateur but it works nicely I have them lapped over each other with a gap at each bottom about 1 inch (2 cm) so the wind gets a chance to go thru it we have seasons that the wind gets around 100 km/h so the method I used works. just wish they had better-quality posts at a reasonable price over here.
I appreciate you watching and sharing your experience!
Do you guys ever use 4 x 4 steel post vs round galvanize post.
We do for ornamental gates!
I grew up in Arkansas and if you ever dug a hole in NW Arkansas you got something to say about digging there I'm in florida now and I'll complain if there is coral.
Joe, I am toying with the idea to either drive 2 3/8" pipe post or dig and fill with Pea Gravel. We have Sandy Loam with a Clay base. On occasion you might find a rock. This is a perimeter pasture fence where its no better than your corner post. In this guys case I would have used steel post.
Agreed, driving steel is always a solid option!
@@JoeEverest trying for the least expense. Have almost a mile of pasture fence.
I'm going to video my next fence in hopes I can make it into one of your reactions eventually.
I’d love to see it!
I'm so glad I found your channel before I built my fence. You saved me from so many mistakes. I definitely built a superior fence having followed your direction.
Thanks Autumn, always happy to help!
Guy seems to be doing a good job by himself.
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Agreed!
Post offset from string 1/4". I can see 1/4" but I have to measure 6". Drywall screw into post and loop string into threads 1/4" off post. Won't slip.
We set the fence 6” inside the property line, so the 6” inset is a bit of a dual purpose.
I've got clay here in Tennessee but atleast I've also got sheet rock that makes the clay the easy part
Always a silver lining! Thanks for watching!
I've removed posts l did years ago ...the concrete does not mix itself....you have to mix the concrete ,do not put gravel, then dry concrete around a post,lt will never cure or provide any strength. The holes he dug with an auger...he used to small of a drill,he should have drilled a larger hole so he could get more concrete in the hole with less work..lots of people use a small fence post level. They are fine ,I like to use the longer level,it is more accurate.You don't have to use batter boards to set your string you can attach the string to your outside post .just do it properly ,not the way he did it
Curious if he planned to paint the posts? If you notice all the other posts have the concrete dust about a foot up each one.
We have clay and rocks. Does that make our holes worse to dig? I want credit for digging really hard holes.
Solid clay? Solid as rock? Here at Georgia coast we have clay and I prefer clay than any other type of soil. At least clay will not collapse during digging.
Way too much water. Should have mixed it before putting in ground.
I build fences in colorado it's all rocky here. But we only use string lines for layout. Everything else we sight in everytime
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Lol, my frost line is 5 feet deep and my soil is clay and melon-sized rocks... Quebec.
Woah!
Keep the string line off the post should be able to maintain a quarter inch , You might even get so good when you don’t even need it learn how to backsight !!
Overall I would say he done good. Also he didn’t insist that every post needs bracing. Lol
😂 agreed
I just put in 40 of the postmaster posts with no help, just dug the hole, dropped in the post, plumbed it up with one hand and dropped a bag of quickcrete in, made sure it was plumb and poured in a gallon, waited a couple minutes and poured another bag and water in, said to myself "yep that ain't going anywhere" and moved to the next. 250ft and 5 gates later, perfection! lol
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Thanks for watching!
Are you in favor of the “stab it” method?
Digging thru rocks is no fun and massive amounts of roots, everything else is manageable
I'll take the sand