The whole green bubble thing is such an NA problem. In Europe basically everyone uses third party message apps such as WhatsApp, no one actually uses text/sms
@@hereandnow3156 I think its that Whatsapp provided functions sms originally didnt have and idk about the us but in europe we didnt have unlimited free sms before whatsapp. So by the time sms had possibly caught up other apps where the standard and people dont move from the standard easily. Also sms apparently has this dumb green bubble blue bubble issue.
The audacity to say this. Do you not have any semblance of the current socio-political issues going on in the world right now? How clueless of you, I bet you don't even watch the news. Probably living under a rock. How could you say this as if the Year Recap War between Spotify, Apple , and UA-cam Music didnt just happen. 😡
I think "the bubble wars" is a very US specific problem. I've lived in other countries and in general we don't even use the same messaging apps as the US. There's no such difference in texts. The survey that said that 87% of teens have iPhones must be from the US. I am almost certain that the price point of apple products, at least in Brazil, makes it so Android products are the majority owned by teens - this is coming from my own observation, not a deeply formal reasearch. So in my mind it's a very privileged and kind of absurd demand to mock someone from their color of messages, besides being a very specific and localized prejudice only to those who use that messaging app that makes that difference in colors.
Yea I agree it’s a US specific issue. I’m from US but work for Austrian company with plenty of nationalities all working with me. Majority of them don’t have iPhones but we ALL communicate with WhatsApp. Literally none of them using the default texting apps
In Germany the main app everyone uses to text is WhatsApp and not iMessage or Google Messages. I think it stems from phone companies not making SMS messaging free (even today messaging directly between phones isn't free on most reasonably priced contracts between two different providers). So eventually everyone started using WhatsApp because it was basically free SMS when smartphones first got sold. I still remember that even WhatsApp wasn't free and I had to pay some one time price when I first signed up. But it was just worth it in comparison to our horrible phone provider prices.
If someone doesn't date you for your phone's text color, then you just avoided dating a walking red flag if something so meaningless bothers you to that extent
I want to keep my green bubble because I'm 28 years old and I think it's hilarious that other people in their late 20s actually complain about the color of a text bubble.
In the past, they could say green bubbles exist because of technical limitations but there is nothing that anyone can pretend is the reason for green bubbles except 'Marking the poors' after this right?
It’s not even “marking the poors” in 2023, as iPhones have been around so long, you can get a cheaper old one. At this point, it’s about iPhone users seeing non iPhone users as “being annoying on purpose”
Rolling on the floor laughing at apple users, cant even install Revanced apk to bypass youtube ads and they have to pay actual money just to skip ads 🤭🤭🤭
My wife is from Taiwan, and we go back every year. Its awesome to see you break down the elections. Taiwan is super crazy around this time.. my wife will fly back, just to vote and fly back on a weekend. If you ever want to visit Taiwan, Atrioc, we can show you around I know that's odd from just a dude online but its genuine. . Much love
The craziest part of the whole blue-green war is that people actually use normal texts. Back in the day, all my friends used to use Facebook messenger and Whatsapp
Atrioc got one part of Beeper Mini wrong. The part of the video where the tech reviewer is explaining how it works, thats how Beeper Cloud works. Beeper Mini did everything on your phone, so its even more secure.
@@jaxfilm yea, I know it's Beeper, Beeper Mini is the app that got blocked last week by Apple. Before they blocked it, you were able to use your phone number on Android on iMessage.
I find it extra weird when nobody I know at my high school uses SMS stuff to begin with. Snapchat and Discord are way more common means of communication from what I can tell.
For some context, America has nationwide cellular coverage, so there was never a need for a third party internet-based messaging service here. We didn't have roaming charges to deal with if we traveled out of our state, so default messaging apps suited our needs. On top of that, there aren't a lot of places to easily travel outside of the country, since the US only borders 2 other countries, and even getting to those places often requires a few hours of flying for most of the US.
@@NISHIAKI most devloped nations have nationwide cellular coverage, which includes almost all of europe, india(for india its more because there are cities everywhere but not the point), i believe when it comes to eastern china there is cellular coverage and you're already covering half the population, then the golf states other small countries, other dense countries, southern canada, central and eastern mexico, coastal brazil(and peru, ecuador, uruguay, colombia) most of the non-african population has cell coverage, and a significant portion of african populations live in big cities which also have cellular coverage.
@@NISHIAKIits more that there were often cost associated with texts. So because wifi coverage was so good we all switched to network based services. If we ever lack network we default back to internet from our cellular network provider. Which was rare and is becoming more rare as every country develops. So simply it is less expensive as well as text being really weird sometimes when sharing media.
Thank God RCS support is coming. I don't care if my bubble is diarrhea brown to my friends, just make the media we send to each other work. Crazy iPhone users can't just choose what color their bubbles are lol
That's what I was thinking! If iPhone users could choose from a set of like 8 or so colors, it would probably be a fun feature and also solve part of the problem
@@tortillachips3911 I love reading comments like this because we are essentially discussing the most basic functionality of customization options that SHOULD be a thing already that apple has conveniently left out 🤣🤣 But rather than apple users demanding apple do some basic feature roll outs, they own it like lacking basic features is a huge flex
@@ASassyP yep it's absolutely insane. I use Textra on Android and have my family and friends bubbles color coordinated so I can just glance and see if it's someone I care to respond to lol girlfriend pink, close friends turquoise, close family purple, everyone else is dark blue. The fact that Apple users are forced to stay with the default colors because Apple wants to turn them against their Android using friends is ridiculous.
And once you're in the ecosystem, thats it, its joever for ya. They got you in a choke hold by having their own quirky charging cables for every damn device to their own terrible OS to their own appstore to their own earbuds and watches to their own stylus with a battery in it 🤣 Honestly their horrifyingly predatory marketing tactics is why I stick to free-market android, that isnt being bear hugged by one over priced company
@@-Sai Average brainwashed apple user, like did you read anything I wrote? Sure they dont force you to get an iphone but they damn well force you to buy all of THEIR products the second you buy one of em, by artificially cutting support to the rest. That is downright scummy and predatory period.
@@-Sai 80% of teens that have a phone have an iPhone its about fitting it, that is predatory, preying on children's NEED to fit in. Which we do literally need, because we are social animals
i honestly cannot comprehend how this is a problem. like... people still actually use sms to text? in 2023?! that's fucking wild. so many other much better messaging apps exist. whatsapp, viber, fb messenger, snapchat, telegram. hell... even tinder or grindr. discord even. like damn. people who care so much about bubble colors are such an ick.
@@CyanideSlushie if you're messaging someone outside of the apple ecosystem it functions as SMS so it is, in essence, SMS. it might not use SMS technology when communicating to other apple devices, but everything else outside of the apple ecosystem sees imessage messages as SMS. which is my point. wth are people still using SMS?
how are they better? I can get discord for group chats if that's something you do often, but why would you go out of your way to download a messaging app that isn't just included on your phone by default? From what I'm aware, social media dms and snapchat are really just used so you don't have to give your number out to randoms lol.
I'm in college in software engineering, and the people in my class are some of the smartest I've ever met. Not a single one of them has an iPhone, and we make fun of apple religiously.
Damn, a very specific bubble of extremely tech-savy people who spend most of their life on the internet and who likely weren't exactly in the "in-groups" back in school doesn't care about/hate on apple? That's surprising. Next thing you tell me some already are and many plan on switching to Linux soon because Windows is shit
@@Todesschleicherwow this person is funny get them a mic. You got the air pods, phone, tablet, and laptop I bet. Love when a company doesn't fix a problem after a decade
@@thadman3003 damn, your reading comprehension level really isn't good, huh? But I'll humour you: You're 0/5 on your assumptions. Neither am I funny, nor do I own any apple products or want to own them. My comment was about the OP posting a subjective observation from a niche group that is very much expected to hate on Apple products. Most software engineers or general IT people I know are apple haters, simply because they dislike not only the restrictive eco system but also the exorbitant prices they charge and the anti-customer policies. I'd have been surprised about a class of aspiring software engineers being Apple fans. After all, they're more likely to program their own Linux kernel than to like Apple. At the same time, they're not the target demographic. Few people in this comment section are. Apple users are mostly disinterested in the inner workings of technology. They like the products because they work out of the box, there's loads of accessories and they can maybe project a certain amount of wealth/income. The ecosystem caters to their needs by working pretty seamlessly and integrating their products in most ways they are interested in. These people don't want to tinker with technology, sideload apps or find creative workarounds. Kinda antithetical to software engineers, huh? Me personally? As long as I can go to the apple store and see a RAM upgrade for 4-6x the price of the hardware, my blood pressure will forever prevent me from buying an Apple product. Because I am not the target demographic.
The blue bubble green bubble thing in by far the dumbest discourse and marketing tactic that actually works, there's non 0 number of people who bought iPhones because of it
Id be interested to know what you think of Epic winning their lawsuit against google but losing to apple. Seems like supreme court might now supersede both rulings and potentially rule in favor of epic
Okay I feel like this is a good time to ask: Is the whole "green vs. blue" thing just a mostly american thing or something? Cause I've never heard anyone mention it here, and it seems like you would need to have something wrong with your head to actually care about the color of someone's texts
What she said. It’s so dumb but Apple did come out with 471 emojis in 2008 for their Japan market only. They weren’t first but they had the real first smartphone so they were obviously trademarked. Now it’s just stupid. Android is fine but I prefer privacy. I update every 4 year s or so but most of the hate comes from Android users, we Apple phone users are just higher class. 😂
@@heyboxgamingit's a special mission in the game "Hitman" that they give out occasionally, with the gimmick of if you die that's it and you can't redo it
the real winner is this solo developer high schooler who struck gold and then realized it would get banned so they sold it and probably got a Nice payout
See, i can just change my bubbles to whatever i want. Can't say i have an issue with this issue. The annoying thing ive found is pictures sent to iphones via sms are bricked.
black "friday" stopped feeling like black friday when stores both brick and mortar and online decided to make "friday" last like 1-3 months, same with cyber "week" its somehow turned into a month+ and it gets to a point where you ask why aren't these "discounted" prices not the normal prices.. so a time of the year when i thought i could get a deal i feel as if im being scammed even more so than before
About 5 years ago I broke my Macbook Retina screen. I couldn't buy just a new screen so I had to buy a 3rd party one; it worked great for a year or two then apple pushed out a software update that broke the screen brightness adjustment. Basically my LCD was full brightness all the time, I could use an app to change it but they just removed the function to adjust the screen in the update. That was when I quit buying there products.
It is hilarious how apple users will blame android users for using an android even tough it's the company they buy their phones from that causes the problem
Back when I was in the US, I primarily remember communicating with everyone that I knew through Facebook messenger. Since leaving, I've primarily used LINE, so the idea of communicating using text messages feels pretty archaic. The only time I get text messages these days is for stuff like verifying phone numbers.
I straight up dont want them to change the color on iphone. If someone is so shallow that my phone brand matters to them, they can weed themselves out of my dating pool asap.
What bothers me way more than apple’s bubble situation is the egregious prices they charge to upgrade memory and ssd space and they make it non upgradable. They literally charge like 10x+ what it would cost to get it yourself
As someone who works in the delivery industry. I hate that Black Friday has moved to primarily online. So many more people are buying way more things online that I've seen delivery drivers with so many packages they can't even fit them all in their truck.
As a current highschool teen with an android in the United States of America. I have yet to run into a situation where ut is a real problem. People use mostly second party messagers anyway like Snapchat, Instagram, or discord and the times we have had to traditionally text atost i have gotten is a "uh you have an android uh ok" and maybe like a joke about how apple is better than android. But i still get added to the chats and invited to parties and to hang out and stuff and it is rarely a big deal. Maybe if you go to school in like a big highschool or in like new york people care but most people don't really care. Do not push you family outside of your financial means just so you can get essentially the same rectangle (unless you are a nerd) just because of a bubble color, although if apple is less expensive or is better for you than get that who cares.
Note on Wazzup Beijing: Atrioc said that the Taiwanese government has rescinded its claim on mainland China; however, this is not true, as the Taiwanese Government (the ROC) still does claim to the be the government of all China-in fact, it is part of their constitution.
i stopped getting even an ounce of shit for owning an android when i got a folding phone. seeing a phone unfold into a mini tablet with no creases in the screen drops jaws. ill even take their phone and jokingly try to bend it and act surprised. like "wow i didnt know they still made phones like this, its so retro". if im being a real asshole, i'll ask em if they couldn't afford a foldable
Anyone who thinks iPhones are better than Androids are delusional and in denial. People don't like going out for Black Friday anymore because people know they aren't really getting a deal.
I'm 32 I used to get shit on in school for not having Nike clothing (UK) and I remember getting my first pair of expensive trainers (no one gave a fuck) Kids will do anything to differentiate themselves from others. Back then, Nike Shocks, or Nike Presto cost around £120 In retrospect I'm lucky that it wasn't this era that required my parents to pay £1000 on an iPhone
Ngl if someone's so damn shallow that a green bubble is their determining factor as to if they will be in a relationship with me gotta say I'm happy that they were so nice as to show me that they are more shallow than a kiddy pool early on thats such a kind gesture
Growing up poor, my first apple product was an ipod mini gifted to me on Christmas. The issue was I didn’t have a pc or laptop so I had no way of storing music on that thing lol, had to download itunes on a friend’s pc to transfer music to that thing.
As for European, this whole bubble war seems so fucking bizzare I had trouble believing it's true for first couple minutes. I mean, I'm sure there are snob bubbles around Yropp with problems such as these... but I literally heard first time in my life that anybody gives a shit about bubble color. That''s so fucking bizzare.
How is this not the textbook definition of antitrust? "Tim Cook, currently I cannot send videos to my mom, how should I proceed?" "Buy an iphone lol if u a broke boy just say so".
@@GazMatic no antitrust is when a company makes it harder for users to switch/ adds propietary bullshit for the purpose of preventing users from ever using other services
Big A breaking new ground saying breaking consumer information law is "ballsy" people have a right to know when they're being sold to at all times zero exceptions
My S21 Ultra gets recognized as an Apple watch. Has for the past year. All you've gotta do is get your provider to check a box. What's Apple gonna do? Sue my cell provider? Call your provider today all ask nicely, they'll do it.
You know what's great about android? I can just make the bubbles whatever color I want them. The other thing is that my purchasing of it doesn't suddenly make me feel the need to tie my entire existence to a cult like group identity based precisely off of my lack of technical know-how that lead to my choice of phone. Also its so android to be like "fine, you want a god damn blue bubble, we'll give you blue bubbles" and then they proceed to figure out to how spoof an appleID via android, an app is made, its released onto the play store... and life goes on.
Nomadic asian here, funny how this problem is just an NA thing. In Japan and Thailand we use Line, in Korea we use Kakao, in Indo we use Whatsapp (and probably in other places too)
I guess I was lucky that no one I went to high school with ever brought up the green bubble but if they had I would've told them to fuck off and move on lol.
yeah i’m south korean and the telecom companies here have a monopoly. to my knowledge netflix and youtube have done negotiations directly with the korean government to bypass these fees & twitch tried to do the same thing but failed. i watch a bunch of streamers here and they have to move to youtube/naver (naver is korean google, as soon as the news broke they instantly hit up all the big korean twitch streamers to get them on their new site), also unlike what atrioc said i think most people aren’t going to afreeca because it’s a very different environment? anyways super sad because twitch is still the best environment for viewers as well.
as a taiwanese american who doesn't know anything about the politics of taiwan, it was cool to get a broad overview of what's going on with the election. i think more coverage of taiwan in marketing mondays could be helpful since the country is a political tension point between the US and china while also enabling much of the world's advanced technology
As an 18 year old in the UK, no one gives a shit about the color of your texts. Everybody uses Snapchat or instagram, I haven’t texted any of my friends for years
I do a lot contract work on film productions for a young production company and they have said to me outright that they won't hire back people with androids bc they don't want green crew group chats
The last I ever used SMS or heard of anyone using SMS was the nokia brick days. Like straight up even elderly folk have moved on. It just feels so cringe and old fashioned to care about the bubbles
what i think is funny is alot of iphone users go to burn is "your poor" but the majority of androids are not only starting to cost more than iphones but actually have features improved upon due to them being produced by tons of companies vs apple just reshaping the iphone slightly every year
Its so weird hearing about this iPhone masterclass in US, coming from the place where no one one gives a shit what phone you use and if they actually do you're rather made fun of for having iphone
The whole green bubble thing is such an NA problem. In Europe basically everyone uses third party message apps such as WhatsApp, no one actually uses text/sms
Not just Europe, pretty much the rest of the world
Indeed! I never use SMS and didn't even know about this issue
Yeah. I had no clue people still use SMS, seems so outdated.
@@schlopping what do you like about 3rd party apps that isn't provided by SMS? I'm American so I basically exclusively use SMS so I'm curious
@@hereandnow3156 I think its that Whatsapp provided functions sms originally didnt have and idk about the us but in europe we didnt have unlimited free sms before whatsapp. So by the time sms had possibly caught up other apps where the standard and people dont move from the standard easily. Also sms apparently has this dumb green bubble blue bubble issue.
The bubble war is by far the worst and most devastating war going on in the world right now
I personally thought the air raids on Apple headquarters went too far
The only one I care about 💨
The audacity to say this. Do you not have any semblance of the current socio-political issues going on in the world right now? How clueless of you, I bet you don't even watch the news. Probably living under a rock. How could you say this as if the Year Recap War between Spotify, Apple , and UA-cam Music didnt just happen. 😡
did you forget about the war on christmas? we must beat back saint nick.
As a ukrainian, i agree
I think "the bubble wars" is a very US specific problem.
I've lived in other countries and in general we don't even use the same messaging apps as the US. There's no such difference in texts. The survey that said that 87% of teens have iPhones must be from the US. I am almost certain that the price point of apple products, at least in Brazil, makes it so Android products are the majority owned by teens - this is coming from my own observation, not a deeply formal reasearch. So in my mind it's a very privileged and kind of absurd demand to mock someone from their color of messages, besides being a very specific and localized prejudice only to those who use that messaging app that makes that difference in colors.
Yea I agree it’s a US specific issue. I’m from US but work for Austrian company with plenty of nationalities all working with me. Majority of them don’t have iPhones but we ALL communicate with WhatsApp. Literally none of them using the default texting apps
Yeah I’m from Argentina and we use WhatsApp lol
In Germany the main app everyone uses to text is WhatsApp and not iMessage or Google Messages. I think it stems from phone companies not making SMS messaging free (even today messaging directly between phones isn't free on most reasonably priced contracts between two different providers). So eventually everyone started using WhatsApp because it was basically free SMS when smartphones first got sold. I still remember that even WhatsApp wasn't free and I had to pay some one time price when I first signed up. But it was just worth it in comparison to our horrible phone provider prices.
WHAAATSAAAAPPPPPPP
Yeah. In Brazil and France we also use WhatsApp
If someone doesn't date you for your phone's text color, then you just avoided dating a walking red flag if something so meaningless bothers you to that extent
If I am filtering out people who care about the color of a text bubble, I can only see this as a positive feature.
Honestly so true, any person that reacts negatively to an android immediately is not worth my time, effort, or care.
@@AWildCookireal
Totally. Like 99% of the rest of the world population doesn't give a fμck about bubbles.
I want to keep my green bubble because I'm 28 years old and I think it's hilarious that other people in their late 20s actually complain about the color of a text bubble.
same. 😂
Preach
None of your group chats can be named or have an icon on iOS
@@Witcheridoo I use Discord like a normal person.
Yeah the whole thing is very petty
In the past, they could say green bubbles exist because of technical limitations but there is nothing that anyone can pretend is the reason for green bubbles except 'Marking the poors' after this right?
It’s not even “marking the poors” in 2023, as iPhones have been around so long, you can get a cheaper old one. At this point, it’s about iPhone users seeing non iPhone users as “being annoying on purpose”
@@alexanderrose1071Weird. Cringe takes from apple users.
Rolling on the floor laughing at apple users, cant even install Revanced apk to bypass youtube ads and they have to pay actual money just to skip ads 🤭🤭🤭
@@Pyxyty Genuinely so happy that I know apple users will never have ReVanced. Hahaha.
@@Pyxytythey already paid for buying Apple, they gonna pay more
As an Asian, I never knew the bubbles bullying thing was real cuz we all just use WhatsApp or Instagram no matter the phone lmfao
In eu too, (and basically the rest of the world)
yeah because cell service is a lot cheaper in the us (is what I've heard, don't quote me on that)
in my country internet data used for whatsapp or any message app does not count for your download limit. But SMS are. And Whatsapp is crazy good.
My wife is from Taiwan, and we go back every year. Its awesome to see you break down the elections. Taiwan is super crazy around this time.. my wife will fly back, just to vote and fly back on a weekend. If you ever want to visit Taiwan, Atrioc, we can show you around I know that's odd from just a dude online but its genuine. . Much love
I might visit in 2024 (maybe with aiden). Shoot me a DM on Twitter, I'd love to know somebody there when we visit.
I'm from Taiwan and will probably go back next year too :) I'll see you at the night market~ @@atrioc
If a woman doesn't want to date you because your text message bubbles are green, then I gotta say. Not exactly wife material anyway.
yep its a free filter
yep easy no
Going on a first date looking for a wife is about as much of a red flag as judging what phone someone has
@@stevsux4442true and based
@@stevsux4442 You mean to say that you go on dates with the intention to break up a couple years later?
The craziest part of the whole blue-green war is that people actually use normal texts. Back in the day, all my friends used to use Facebook messenger and Whatsapp
Apperantly it's an US thing, over here in germany no one uses regular text messages anymore lol From what I'm reading the same goes for most regions
and iirc messenger lets you fuck with bubble colours however you want so what’s the fucking point
Most teens I know in England use Snapchat (or WhatsApp)
Not even back in the day, I feel like everyone I know still messages over whatsapp. It really is just a US country
My atrioc senses were tingling and I just knew there was a new video from the glarketer himself
Actually such a sixth sense fr
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Glizzy hands coffee cow moooo
Atrioc got one part of Beeper Mini wrong. The part of the video where the tech reviewer is explaining how it works, thats how Beeper Cloud works. Beeper Mini did everything on your phone, so its even more secure.
Yeah, this part needs a re-edit
@@jaxfilm yea, I know it's Beeper, Beeper Mini is the app that got blocked last week by Apple. Before they blocked it, you were able to use your phone number on Android on iMessage.
This is such an NA "problem". The whole rest of the world just uses WhatsApp.
Exactly, wtf is iMessage anyway
I find it extra weird when nobody I know at my high school uses SMS stuff to begin with. Snapchat and Discord are way more common means of communication from what I can tell.
For some context, America has nationwide cellular coverage, so there was never a need for a third party internet-based messaging service here. We didn't have roaming charges to deal with if we traveled out of our state, so default messaging apps suited our needs. On top of that, there aren't a lot of places to easily travel outside of the country, since the US only borders 2 other countries, and even getting to those places often requires a few hours of flying for most of the US.
@@NISHIAKI most devloped nations have nationwide cellular coverage, which includes almost all of europe, india(for india its more because there are cities everywhere but not the point), i believe when it comes to eastern china there is cellular coverage and you're already covering half the population, then the golf states other small countries, other dense countries, southern canada, central and eastern mexico, coastal brazil(and peru, ecuador, uruguay, colombia) most of the non-african population has cell coverage, and a significant portion of african populations live in big cities which also have cellular coverage.
@@NISHIAKIits more that there were often cost associated with texts. So because wifi coverage was so good we all switched to network based services. If we ever lack network we default back to internet from our cellular network provider. Which was rare and is becoming more rare as every country develops.
So simply it is less expensive as well as text being really weird sometimes when sharing media.
Maybe it's me being an EU frog, but I am more surprised that people actually still use SMS for communication.
Yea nobody here uses whatsapp
@@YungJared5in Northern Europe everyone uses Facebook messenger
@@sisseholm4869 😢 what’s it like being impoverished?
@hollister2320
Northern Europe is actually quite expensive to live in and has a high GPA so I don't think he can answer your dumb question lol.
Fun fact : That green color actually breaks Apple's own guidelines for UI/UX and color that it asks all apps on app store to follow
wait, really???
Thank God RCS support is coming. I don't care if my bubble is diarrhea brown to my friends, just make the media we send to each other work. Crazy iPhone users can't just choose what color their bubbles are lol
That's what I was thinking! If iPhone users could choose from a set of like 8 or so colors, it would probably be a fun feature and also solve part of the problem
@@tortillachips3911 I love reading comments like this because we are essentially discussing the most basic functionality of customization options that SHOULD be a thing already that apple has conveniently left out 🤣🤣 But rather than apple users demanding apple do some basic feature roll outs, they own it like lacking basic features is a huge flex
@@ASassyP yep it's absolutely insane. I use Textra on Android and have my family and friends bubbles color coordinated so I can just glance and see if it's someone I care to respond to lol girlfriend pink, close friends turquoise, close family purple, everyone else is dark blue. The fact that Apple users are forced to stay with the default colors because Apple wants to turn them against their Android using friends is ridiculous.
@@tortillachips3911 It is not a problem in the eyes of apple lmao but I get your point
I have to give Apple credit. It's honestly terrifying how they have cultivated the majority of society into thinking they need to have an iPhone.
American society* the rest of the world uses WhatsApp or WeChat lol
The poor are complaining again
@@richpryor9650 you are the epitome of the average Apple user.
Capitalism and blind consumerism is a hell of a drug
@@richpryor9650 Hey look, a Tim meatrider!
My little sister bought a used iPhone 7 just so she'd have blue bubbles. iPhone users are a cult at this point.
yep
And once you're in the ecosystem, thats it, its joever for ya. They got you in a choke hold by having their own quirky charging cables for every damn device to their own terrible OS to their own appstore to their own earbuds and watches to their own stylus with a battery in it 🤣
Honestly their horrifyingly predatory marketing tactics is why I stick to free-market android, that isnt being bear hugged by one over priced company
@@Amodh1257 apple does a lot of annoying stuff but I don't see how their marketing is "horrifyingly predatory". No one is forcing you to get an iphone
@@-Sai Average brainwashed apple user, like did you read anything I wrote? Sure they dont force you to get an iphone but they damn well force you to buy all of THEIR products the second you buy one of em, by artificially cutting support to the rest. That is downright scummy and predatory period.
@@-Sai 80% of teens that have a phone have an iPhone its about fitting it, that is predatory, preying on children's NEED to fit in. Which we do literally need, because we are social animals
i honestly cannot comprehend how this is a problem. like... people still actually use sms to text? in 2023?! that's fucking wild. so many other much better messaging apps exist. whatsapp, viber, fb messenger, snapchat, telegram. hell... even tinder or grindr. discord even. like damn. people who care so much about bubble colors are such an ick.
Idk I like iMessage
iMessage isn’t sms which is why the green bubble is a thing to begin with
@@CyanideSlushie if you're messaging someone outside of the apple ecosystem it functions as SMS so it is, in essence, SMS. it might not use SMS technology when communicating to other apple devices, but everything else outside of the apple ecosystem sees imessage messages as SMS. which is my point. wth are people still using SMS?
@@pyronix dont bother. It's the muricans, they always do the most stupid stuff possible.
how are they better? I can get discord for group chats if that's something you do often, but why would you go out of your way to download a messaging app that isn't just included on your phone by default?
From what I'm aware, social media dms and snapchat are really just used so you don't have to give your number out to randoms lol.
I think we need a specialist on the feild for the bubble war . . . perhaps some sort of battle report 🤔.
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This is such a US thing to be so elitist and polarized over the brand of phone people use.
I'm in college in software engineering, and the people in my class are some of the smartest I've ever met. Not a single one of them has an iPhone, and we make fun of apple religiously.
Damn, a very specific bubble of extremely tech-savy people who spend most of their life on the internet and who likely weren't exactly in the "in-groups" back in school doesn't care about/hate on apple? That's surprising. Next thing you tell me some already are and many plan on switching to Linux soon because Windows is shit
@@Todesschleicherwow this person is funny get them a mic. You got the air pods, phone, tablet, and laptop I bet. Love when a company doesn't fix a problem after a decade
@@thadman3003 damn, your reading comprehension level really isn't good, huh?
But I'll humour you: You're 0/5 on your assumptions. Neither am I funny, nor do I own any apple products or want to own them. My comment was about the OP posting a subjective observation from a niche group that is very much expected to hate on Apple products. Most software engineers or general IT people I know are apple haters, simply because they dislike not only the restrictive eco system but also the exorbitant prices they charge and the anti-customer policies.
I'd have been surprised about a class of aspiring software engineers being Apple fans. After all, they're more likely to program their own Linux kernel than to like Apple.
At the same time, they're not the target demographic. Few people in this comment section are. Apple users are mostly disinterested in the inner workings of technology. They like the products because they work out of the box, there's loads of accessories and they can maybe project a certain amount of wealth/income. The ecosystem caters to their needs by working pretty seamlessly and integrating their products in most ways they are interested in. These people don't want to tinker with technology, sideload apps or find creative workarounds. Kinda antithetical to software engineers, huh?
Me personally? As long as I can go to the apple store and see a RAM upgrade for 4-6x the price of the hardware, my blood pressure will forever prevent me from buying an Apple product. Because I am not the target demographic.
No way... another app that claims to be incredibly secure is revealed to have no understanding of what security even means :O
The blue bubble green bubble thing in by far the dumbest discourse and marketing tactic that actually works, there's non 0 number of people who bought iPhones because of it
I mean the console “wars” exist so is it that surprising
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime but that doesnt matter and its mostly a joke this is much more impactful
@@Darkcamera45 You’d be surprised how seriously people used to take that dumb stuff
Damn shoutout to big A for predicting apple cracking down in the absence of the EU lawsuit and then not bragging about it in post
only Big A and a ridiculously well-endowed anime fox girl can talk about text bubbles for 10 minutes and have me listen
I'm not sure who you're referencing, but I feel I agree
1:30 It's literally not on Reddit, it says right there: "[Tell HackerNews]"
Id be interested to know what you think of Epic winning their lawsuit against google but losing to apple. Seems like supreme court might now supersede both rulings and potentially rule in favor of epic
Okay I feel like this is a good time to ask: Is the whole "green vs. blue" thing just a mostly american thing or something? Cause I've never heard anyone mention it here, and it seems like you would need to have something wrong with your head to actually care about the color of someone's texts
Yes. The rest of the world just uses smth like WhatsApp anyway
What she said. It’s so dumb but Apple did come out with 471 emojis in 2008 for their Japan market only. They weren’t first but they had the real first smartphone so they were obviously trademarked. Now it’s just stupid. Android is fine but I prefer privacy. I update every 4 year s or so but most of the hate comes from Android users, we Apple phone users are just higher class. 😂
@@unusallife6326 or snobs
Man I've been trying so hard to catch a stream this is an elusive Target😂😂
What’s an elusive target?
@@heyboxgamingit's a special mission in the game "Hitman" that they give out occasionally, with the gimmick of if you die that's it and you can't redo it
It's all good I'm running Alchemist Tower, Spike Factory, and Village, these "bubbles" which are just bloons drones don't stand a chance!
if someone "gets an ick" from green bubbles it's just a good indicator not to talk to that person
Missed opportunity to include Snoop’s response to the internet going crazy, saying ‘I was high when I tweeted that’ - made me laugh so hard
the real winner is this solo developer high schooler who struck gold and then realized it would get banned so they sold it and probably got a Nice payout
W to that student who sold his program and got the bag💰
See, i can just change my bubbles to whatever i want.
Can't say i have an issue with this issue.
The annoying thing ive found is pictures sent to iphones via sms are bricked.
black "friday" stopped feeling like black friday when stores both brick and mortar and online decided to make "friday" last like 1-3 months, same with cyber "week" its somehow turned into a month+ and it gets to a point where you ask why aren't these "discounted" prices not the normal prices.. so a time of the year when i thought i could get a deal i feel as if im being scammed even more so than before
About 5 years ago I broke my Macbook Retina screen. I couldn't buy just a new screen so I had to buy a 3rd party one; it worked great for a year or two then apple pushed out a software update that broke the screen brightness adjustment. Basically my LCD was full brightness all the time, I could use an app to change it but they just removed the function to adjust the screen in the update. That was when I quit buying there products.
It is hilarious how apple users will blame android users for using an android even tough it's the company they buy their phones from that causes the problem
I was thinking about this the whole dang time he was talking about it
I love the wassup bejing design, the design of marketing monday is awesome
The green bubble thing is definitely classicm repackaged as fun little gen z memes lmao
Back when I was in the US, I primarily remember communicating with everyone that I knew through Facebook messenger. Since leaving, I've primarily used LINE, so the idea of communicating using text messages feels pretty archaic. The only time I get text messages these days is for stuff like verifying phone numbers.
As someone currently living in the US, 100% accurate for me. I only use texts for my family that's over 50 years old....
I straight up dont want them to change the color on iphone. If someone is so shallow that my phone brand matters to them, they can weed themselves out of my dating pool asap.
This is such an american problem, this is not even a conversation in europe
What bothers me way more than apple’s bubble situation is the egregious prices they charge to upgrade memory and ssd space and they make it non upgradable. They literally charge like 10x+ what it would cost to get it yourself
Another day, another victory for the coffee cows
I hate trash iPhones, that kid was a G.
As someone who works in the delivery industry. I hate that Black Friday has moved to primarily online. So many more people are buying way more things online that I've seen delivery drivers with so many packages they can't even fit them all in their truck.
Either price triple A games at 20 dollars with ads, or keep them out of the "premium" 80 dollar products?
As a current highschool teen with an android in the United States of America. I have yet to run into a situation where ut is a real problem. People use mostly second party messagers anyway like Snapchat, Instagram, or discord and the times we have had to traditionally text atost i have gotten is a "uh you have an android uh ok" and maybe like a joke about how apple is better than android. But i still get added to the chats and invited to parties and to hang out and stuff and it is rarely a big deal. Maybe if you go to school in like a big highschool or in like new york people care but most people don't really care. Do not push you family outside of your financial means just so you can get essentially the same rectangle (unless you are a nerd) just because of a bubble color, although if apple is less expensive or is better for you than get that who cares.
Note on Wazzup Beijing: Atrioc said that the Taiwanese government has rescinded its claim on mainland China; however, this is not true, as the Taiwanese Government (the ROC) still does claim to the be the government of all China-in fact, it is part of their constitution.
This one was packed I loved it! A lot of info to flex on non-Atrioc viewers tomorrow
i stopped getting even an ounce of shit for owning an android when i got a folding phone. seeing a phone unfold into a mini tablet with no creases in the screen drops jaws. ill even take their phone and jokingly try to bend it and act surprised. like "wow i didnt know they still made phones like this, its so retro". if im being a real asshole, i'll ask em if they couldn't afford a foldable
8:00 funny those leaked messages were from the Apple v Epic lawsuit
Anyone who thinks iPhones are better than Androids are delusional and in denial. People don't like going out for Black Friday anymore because people know they aren't really getting a deal.
I'm 32
I used to get shit on in school for not having Nike clothing (UK) and I remember getting my first pair of expensive trainers (no one gave a fuck)
Kids will do anything to differentiate themselves from others. Back then, Nike Shocks, or Nike Presto cost around £120
In retrospect I'm lucky that it wasn't this era that required my parents to pay £1000 on an iPhone
Ngl if someone's so damn shallow that a green bubble is their determining factor as to if they will be in a relationship with me gotta say I'm happy that they were so nice as to show me that they are more shallow than a kiddy pool early on thats such a kind gesture
The coffee cow with another milky marketing monday!! HE NEVER DOESNT HIT
Growing up poor, my first apple product was an ipod mini gifted to me on Christmas. The issue was I didn’t have a pc or laptop so I had no way of storing music on that thing lol, had to download itunes on a friend’s pc to transfer music to that thing.
My stupid Samsung S23 Ultra costs more than most newer iPhones.
Apple is just a monopoly under the guise of good marketing.
As for European, this whole bubble war seems so fucking bizzare I had trouble believing it's true for first couple minutes. I mean, I'm sure there are snob bubbles around Yropp with problems such as these... but I literally heard first time in my life that anybody gives a shit about bubble color. That''s so fucking bizzare.
Apple gets way less shit for this on HackerNews than they should. The bubble coloring is absolutely vile and petty.
Im EU and this is not healthy
i know brother. it is too far
I didn’t think he could do marketing Monday on Monday
idk bout other people but game pidgeon needing iPhones to work matters way more to the people I know than bubbles
"Guy named Snazzy Tech" LOOOOOOOL. Marketing people do really don't know tech ppl :D
I'm an android user but I gotta respect how overtly petty Apple is about this lol
So glad I live in a part of the world where literally nobody used imessage
How is this not the textbook definition of antitrust? "Tim Cook, currently I cannot send videos to my mom, how should I proceed?" "Buy an iphone lol if u a broke boy just say so".
This is not antitrust. You don’t need iMessage
@@GazMatic no antitrust is when a company makes it harder for users to switch/ adds propietary bullshit for the purpose of preventing users from ever using other services
Big A breaking new ground saying breaking consumer information law is "ballsy" people have a right to know when they're being sold to at all times zero exceptions
Atrioc saying back when I was growing up and then showing 2013 when he was already 40 is crazy ngl
People caring more about colors in a group chat than about having quality friends is why no one has friends anymore.
The advertisement had been posted for several months; it wasn't recently released. 2:36
Black Friday also was a huge flop despite what the media says.
My S21 Ultra gets recognized as an Apple watch. Has for the past year. All you've gotta do is get your provider to check a box. What's Apple gonna do? Sue my cell provider? Call your provider today all ask nicely, they'll do it.
That's hilarious and beautiful
You know what's great about android? I can just make the bubbles whatever color I want them. The other thing is that my purchasing of it doesn't suddenly make me feel the need to tie my entire existence to a cult like group identity based precisely off of my lack of technical know-how that lead to my choice of phone. Also its so android to be like "fine, you want a god damn blue bubble, we'll give you blue bubbles" and then they proceed to figure out to how spoof an appleID via android, an app is made, its released onto the play store... and life goes on.
Nomadic asian here, funny how this problem is just an NA thing. In Japan and Thailand we use Line, in Korea we use Kakao, in Indo we use Whatsapp (and probably in other places too)
I guess I was lucky that no one I went to high school with ever brought up the green bubble but if they had I would've told them to fuck off and move on lol.
As a haughty youth myself, just use Snapchat.
yeah i’m south korean and the telecom companies here have a monopoly. to my knowledge netflix and youtube have done negotiations directly with the korean government to bypass these fees & twitch tried to do the same thing but failed. i watch a bunch of streamers here and they have to move to youtube/naver (naver is korean google, as soon as the news broke they instantly hit up all the big korean twitch streamers to get them on their new site), also unlike what atrioc said i think most people aren’t going to afreeca because it’s a very different environment?
anyways super sad because twitch is still the best environment for viewers as well.
as a taiwanese american who doesn't know anything about the politics of taiwan, it was cool to get a broad overview of what's going on with the election. i think more coverage of taiwan in marketing mondays could be helpful since the country is a political tension point between the US and china while also enabling much of the world's advanced technology
Imma say it now: I don’t think we’ll be buying phones in our 70s. I assume smart glasses will be prolific by then, if not neuralink/bci tech
I'm an android user and I don't really care about the green bubble but I'm so glad I can finally send videos to my family
If we fix the text bubble war we'll have world peace
As an 18 year old in the UK, no one gives a shit about the color of your texts. Everybody uses Snapchat or instagram, I haven’t texted any of my friends for years
The most first world problem in the known universe
As an iphone user, I have never (willingly) used iMessage in my life and I find this whole “war” thing funny.
I like Android because I can change the color of the text bubbles to whatever I want.
I do a lot contract work on film productions for a young production company and they have said to me outright that they won't hire back people with androids bc they don't want green crew group chats
The last I ever used SMS or heard of anyone using SMS was the nokia brick days. Like straight up even elderly folk have moved on. It just feels so cringe and old fashioned to care about the bubbles
I have an iPhone but I turn iMessage off because when you have phone signal but not mobile data, it just won’t send the messages
as someone who works in a warehouse, i can say with certainty that while black friday was chill this year, cyber monday was hell
The Android stigma has gone so far to where a thief stole everything from a mans pocket, but returns his phone because it was an android iphone
what i think is funny is alot of iphone users go to burn is "your poor" but the majority of androids are not only starting to cost more than iphones but actually have features improved upon due to them being produced by tons of companies vs apple just reshaping the iphone slightly every year
I never realized this was a thing. Then again I surround myself with mature people
Its so weird hearing about this iPhone masterclass in US, coming from the place where no one one gives a shit what phone you use and if they actually do you're rather made fun of for having iphone
The bubble war is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard of. As an Android user i can say that it does not frigging matter xD
Imagine using an OS that requires the skills of a toddler and judging others for not using it.
Big A says see you next monday as if he was serious