This series is very interesting, Dr. Paul. The first wrap turned out great! On your rapid process, I'm wondering if it would help to alternate the orientation with each pass--where one page is against the bottom of the tray on one pass, followed by it being exposed to the upper fluid on the next pass.
Wraps look great. I always find it fascinating to see how a simple bath gets out so much tanning. Can't wait to see the work on the cover. Love the JSA!
Thanks Bronzeville! A good old water bath (in this case pH buffered) is still one of the most effective things you can do for paper conservation. Sometimes I need to remind myself not to get fancy. 👍🏽
I just finished the last of my wraps on my project and going to put the book back together in the next few days. Your videos have been very helpful in this process. Thanks for all you do.
Dear Dr Paul, this was nice to try out. Great job! I have done whole silver & Bronze age books with several 10 min warm washes and you couldn’t tell the difference between the sheets when it was over. So it does work really well, imo. Current project is Superman #33. The paper is really filthy so didn’t think multiples would work as well.
Not sure you mentioned it in the video but during the 5 minute washes you did flip it. Makes sense and something I do just to make sure I get a good rinse on both sides.
Another great video! I really appreciate the re-demonstration of techiniques for reinforcement (rather than just referring to previous videos) - it takes extra time Im sure but certainly adds a lot of value to the videos. I may have missed it, but what did you do with the other hollytex sandwich while one was under the granite?
Thank you Fast Eddie! I guess I didn’t explain it explicitly, the other wrap received the exact same treatment off-camera; then both wraps went into the Bristol paper stack at the end.
Hi, Dr, Paul. Do you have a suggestion on an alternative to Bestine? That is simply cheaper. Some have suggested to put one drop of Dawn dish washing soap into the lime water. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Dan, i don't use Dawn--i don't know what's in it. For a surfactant i use Triton X-100, and one bottle is pretty much a lifetime supply so the cost is minimal. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B075LYKXYF?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzlhcc06-20&creativeASIN=B075LYKXYF&asc_item-id=amzn1.shoppablemedia.v1.1d57e1d5-5ee8-493f-88ee-73a65af10e5e&ref_=aip_sf_photo_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
Bob, yes, you want about 2 grams of Ca(OH) powder per liter of water, if in doubt use extra because we want a saturated solution and we'll just have some undissolved at the bottom of the container and let it settle out. I do not put anything else in it unless i state it in the video. I rarely use H2O2 (i think that is what you are referring to). I only use it for heavily stained paper that i need to bleach, and then never higher than 0.5% by volume. Check out this video for when and how i use H2O2: ua-cam.com/video/GGnqfQ9lm4U/v-deo.html
Not at all critical. I’m not even sure all conservators use humidity prior to bath. I’ll try to ask my cohosts during the live show this evening if you want to tune in. 👍🏽
Very thorough and entertaining video. Wow the total amount of garbage from this comic book is astounding. So overkill is fine by me,you are to be ,and commitment to educating the general community of comicbooks and restoration
Hey Joey probably no practical limit. Paper is manufactured under tremendous pressure and we have a single leaf of paper so no reason to believe any stack we could possibly put on it would be overkill.
Not all stains, but many can be removed with this method. Also easy to remove waviness but not always necessary to do a full wet clean to remove waviness.
Funny you say that as I love the smell of older comics. Especially the older ones that have been properly kept over the years and do not require conservation. The smell of the newsprint brings me nostalgic joy. This is something you definitely lose after soaking and if I worked at CGC would be a clear sign something was done to the book. I wonder how many people smell their books?! LOL
Always great to see how we can expedite the process. I haven’t tried stacking in the wash tray before I’ve been using five separate wash, trays to move things along and I’ve also been pressing the wraps one at a time I haven’t thought about stacking them I will give that a try as well.😊
This series is very interesting, Dr. Paul. The first wrap turned out great! On your rapid process, I'm wondering if it would help to alternate the orientation with each pass--where one page is against the bottom of the tray on one pass, followed by it being exposed to the upper fluid on the next pass.
Thanks Paul! I agree-I did flip the pages once in the middle of each 5 minute wash but forgot to mention it!
This is the good stuff! Thanks Dr. Paul. Keep it coming.
Thanks Ben, will do!
Just found your channel. Fascinating! Subscribed!!
Welcome to the channel!
Wraps look great. I always find it fascinating to see how a simple bath gets out so much tanning. Can't wait to see the work on the cover. Love the JSA!
Thanks Bronzeville! A good old water bath (in this case pH buffered) is still one of the most effective things you can do for paper conservation. Sometimes I need to remind myself not to get fancy. 👍🏽
I love this channel. Your methods are thoroughly researched and backed by legit archival science. Best I've seen on UA-cam on this topic.
Peter, thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot because that is my exact goal!
I just finished the last of my wraps on my project and going to put the book back together in the next few days. Your videos have been very helpful in this process. Thanks for all you do.
My pleasure! Glad to hear you have an ongoing project. 👍🏽
WOW! That's alot of washs Paul. It blows me away when I see how much is removed in each wash.
Not too difficult once you set it up but you have to be detail-oriented to get good outcomes.
once again , Dr. Paul , thanks for what you do . your step by step videos make me want to try a brown paged book by myself !
Thank you for the kind words Rick. Give it a try!!!👍🏽
Dear Dr Paul, this was nice to try out. Great job! I have done whole silver & Bronze age books with several 10 min warm washes and you couldn’t tell the difference between the sheets when it was over. So it does work really well, imo. Current project is Superman #33. The paper is really filthy so didn’t think multiples would work as well.
Thanks Peter! Sounds like a great project. 👍🏽
Not sure you mentioned it in the video but during the 5 minute washes you did flip it. Makes sense and something I do just to make sure I get a good rinse on both sides.
Exactly correct Daus. I think i did forget to mention it in my voiceover and i believe i mentioned it in the next video of the series. Great catch!
Thanks for the link to Reemay vs Holytex vs Interfacing 👍
Another great video! I really appreciate the re-demonstration of techiniques for reinforcement (rather than just referring to previous videos) - it takes extra time Im sure but certainly adds a lot of value to the videos.
I may have missed it, but what did you do with the other hollytex sandwich while one was under the granite?
Thank you Fast Eddie! I guess I didn’t explain it explicitly, the other wrap received the exact same treatment off-camera; then both wraps went into the Bristol paper stack at the end.
Hi, Dr, Paul. Do you have a suggestion on an alternative to Bestine? That is simply cheaper. Some have suggested to put one drop of Dawn dish washing soap into the lime water. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Dan, i don't use Dawn--i don't know what's in it. For a surfactant i use Triton X-100, and one bottle is pretty much a lifetime supply so the cost is minimal. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B075LYKXYF?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzlhcc06-20&creativeASIN=B075LYKXYF&asc_item-id=amzn1.shoppablemedia.v1.1d57e1d5-5ee8-493f-88ee-73a65af10e5e&ref_=aip_sf_photo_spv_ofs_mixed_d_asin
@@DrPaulKosnik Sorry Triton x-100 is what I meant to say instead of Bestine.. Thank you.
So, no agitation during each 5 minute wash, other than flipping the 2 Hollytex sandwiches at the halfway point?
Exactly correct Dan. 👍🏽
Dr. Paul, when making your Ca(OH) solution. What is the mixture? 2 grams of Ca(OH) per Liter of H2O? Do you put any HO2 in the mixture?
Bob, yes, you want about 2 grams of Ca(OH) powder per liter of water, if in doubt use extra because we want a saturated solution and we'll just have some undissolved at the bottom of the container and let it settle out. I do not put anything else in it unless i state it in the video. I rarely use H2O2 (i think that is what you are referring to). I only use it for heavily stained paper that i need to bleach, and then never higher than 0.5% by volume. Check out this video for when and how i use H2O2: ua-cam.com/video/GGnqfQ9lm4U/v-deo.html
@@DrPaulKosnik thank for the link and the clarity :). yeah, I meant H2O2 :)
How critical is the humidity treatment prior to wash
Not at all critical. I’m not even sure all conservators use humidity prior to bath. I’ll try to ask my cohosts during the live show this evening if you want to tune in. 👍🏽
Looks intense 😳
Hope you enjoy it!
Very thorough and entertaining video. Wow the total amount of garbage from this comic book is astounding. So overkill is fine by me,you are to be
,and commitment to educating the general community of comicbooks and restoration
Sorry I'm a bit late. Got called away temporary.
24:12 How heavy is too much for this cold press?
Hey Joey probably no practical limit. Paper is manufactured under tremendous pressure and we have a single leaf of paper so no reason to believe any stack we could possibly put on it would be overkill.
Does a wash remove water staining and waviness?
Not all stains, but many can be removed with this method. Also easy to remove waviness but not always necessary to do a full wet clean to remove waviness.
Coming soon! Old comic paper odor in a spray can! The O-Dor-Matic by K-Tel!! It's just that simple!
I like this idea…I could do an extract from these washes!
Funny you say that as I love the smell of older comics. Especially the older ones that have been properly kept over the years and do not require conservation. The smell of the newsprint brings me nostalgic joy. This is something you definitely lose after soaking and if I worked at CGC would be a clear sign something was done to the book. I wonder how many people smell their books?! LOL
tap water?? i would never do that
Jon that’s what makes me me and you you!
Dude...what language are you speaking. Lol
The universal language of the love of comic books. 👍🏽
Always great to see how we can expedite the process. I haven’t tried stacking in the wash tray before I’ve been using five separate wash, trays to move things along and I’ve also been pressing the wraps one at a time I haven’t thought about stacking them I will give that a try as well.😊