I learnt the game with Fredrin. He made everyone playing him look good. But, the crystal energy storage nerf did it, they capped every aspect of him and have put a lid on his kit now. Still fun to play but now yoi need to have a good sense of going in and out of fights.
The key word is "Team" Fredrinn can soak damage while his TEAM deals damage Fredrinn is slow at jungling so he needs his TEAM Fredrinn can no longer deal high damage as he use to be so he needs his TEAM Now that i have said it. Can u carry with Fredrinn in Solo? •Feeding TEAMmates •Useless TEAMmates •TEAMmates that don't back you up •TEAMmates that runs from TEAMfights I need a carry hero anyone can recommend?(It needs to be a late game monster) Heroes that I've tried •Argus- Immortality+crit but vulnerable to cc •Julian-Great burst but vulnerable when skills on cooldown •Cyclops- Still practicing but too squishy •Clint,popol and kupa,granger and lesley- High chance to carry •Gatotkacha- not bad hero to carry but depends on the enemy line up •Phoveus- Whenever i need my skills the most they are on cooldown •Paquito-I think can carry but I can't (I can only 1v4 not 1v9)
suyou is the best hero to actually carry exp or gold or jungle i got 80% wr im 61 star yes i dont play much this season because of college but damn suyou i dont loose with him at all
If you wanna play fredrinn get thunder belt if the match reaches 20 mins you are guaranteed to have 50+ stacks my highest was 71 on thunder belt using fredrinn
Watched my brother and his 4 other friends faced against fredrinn with hylos and gatotkaca. During drafting I said to my brother they needed xborg or alpha jungle, my brother was not a vocal one and I said he'll regret not seriously considering my suggestion. Their ling couldn't move 😂. Their lead just kept building and they made sure they kept it that way 😂.
Fredrinn is still good, u can find me on the leaderboard as im global 15 currently. He's good if u don't overextend on teamfights, he has a strong retri from early to late game because of his ult (yes u should use ur ult to grab the objective because why do you even fight for the turtle?) he's good at punishing enemy heroes and cancelling their skills with his taunt. overall A+ in the tierlist used multiple times to counter heroes like Joy in m6 especially finals. U see that he still fits within the meta but he's a chore to play in the early game. So you should have heroes like hilda or khaleed to help you farm without being invaded in the early game. If u want to run support roamers make one of those aggressive early heroes as ur exp lane. OVERALL HES STILL GOOD AND HE CAN KEEP UP
Wouldn't it be better to secure objectives with his first skill? His ult has a cast animation which can be predicated by the enemy jungler whereas his first skill can be used consecutively with retri
also i wouldnt say fredrinn fell off due to assasin meta but slow item powercreep with things like malefic gun revamp among other things, making the combination of assassin+mms now harder for him to deal with; as well as odette/cecilion benefitting from the current meta a lot tbh
@4:55 "Look at how much damage he can soak up", tanks three hits and runs while the jawhead kills themselves to save him (he did soak some later but...i wouldnt call it a lot) not trying to be a hater, just found it funny
As a Fredrinn main myself, I personally recommend keeping him in the exp lane. The nerfs he got were just too much, you'd literally need your team to help you throughout the game, and you'd also need your MM to be strong enough for late game. Currently the meta is favoriting MMs rn, the last buff Fredrinn got isnt gonna be enough to handle all of that.
@@elitecharon Better to pick Hilda or Hylos for durability imo, the only good reason to pick him in EXP is if the team doesn't have any good cc counter for enemy's annoying dash heroes. And Fred would be eaten up alive in exp if roamer/mage/jungler doesn't visit his lane
Fredrinn is not as strong as his prime after several nerfs , i used to be fred main but i quit using him bcz he is so easy to kill rn and also he cant rlly keep up in the current burst meta.
Just a quick notice the meta right now is kinda changing to fighters meta right now as in pro tournaments the picks of assasins has really dropped down
I use a build that gives me more dmg cap from ult, to keep up the oneshot in the lategame. Currently, the dmg cap is 4k. I use War Axe and QW so i think its above 5k now? With WA its like 4599/4699 (i forgot the exact number) and qw boosts ur dmg by 15% so yeah, its really good. As a benefit you now also have some spell vamp on top of ur crystal energy to hp regen. This build is very tanky and has some CDR to help with ur taunt CD nerf as well as to make ur skills more fluid. I use tough boots, belt, WA, QW, guardian helm and a flex def item (usually twilight armor). Emblem is tank with 5% CDR (taunt cd nerf is big), jg clear speed and concussive. This works for me. Im a seasoned tank main and fredrinn works very well because you dont rely on the mercy of ur team to zone the enemy jg away because you can just taunt him. You also have ur first skill or ult to combo with the retri so even someone who doesnt play jg and sucks with retri like me has the ability to take every objective there ever was until i get matched with hardcore jg mains that just diff you no matter what like royal matador lance Dx Fred has good dmg now with the right build and has a good CD in the lategame. He can definitely brawl very well and if you know what you're doing (as a tank) you can do many great things.
Assassin meta return was a joke, didn't even last long like those tank jungler😂 From assassin meta to assassin/fighter? What's next? Fighter to tank?😂😂
I learnt the game with Fredrin. He made everyone playing him look good. But, the crystal energy storage nerf did it, they capped every aspect of him and have put a lid on his kit now. Still fun to play but now yoi need to have a good sense of going in and out of fights.
The key word is "Team"
Fredrinn can soak damage while his TEAM deals damage
Fredrinn is slow at jungling so he needs his TEAM
Fredrinn can no longer deal high damage as he use to be so he needs his TEAM
Now that i have said it.
Can u carry with Fredrinn in Solo?
•Feeding TEAMmates
•Useless TEAMmates
•TEAMmates that don't back you up
•TEAMmates that runs from TEAMfights
I need a carry hero anyone can recommend?(It needs to be a late game monster)
Heroes that I've tried
•Argus- Immortality+crit but vulnerable to cc
•Julian-Great burst but vulnerable when skills on cooldown
•Cyclops- Still practicing but too squishy
•Clint,popol and kupa,granger and lesley- High chance to carry
•Gatotkacha- not bad hero to carry but depends on the enemy line up
•Phoveus- Whenever i need my skills the most they are on cooldown
•Paquito-I think can carry but I can't
(I can only 1v4 not 1v9)
cecilion
@faf_911 ye but i heard he will get a nerf soon
aulus if you in epic or legend
I recommend martis. I reached mythic with him. I have like 70% winrate martis for this season. Just make sure to push
suyou is the best hero to actually carry exp or gold or jungle i got 80% wr im 61 star yes i dont play much this season because of college but damn suyou i dont loose with him at all
If you wanna play fredrinn get thunder belt if the match reaches 20 mins you are guaranteed to have 50+ stacks my highest was 71 on thunder belt using fredrinn
The thing that made Assassin jungler meta is...
+20% damage receive penalty when u try invade enemy jungle at first 2 mins in the game
Fred is really good exp with good cc tanks
Watched my brother and his 4 other friends faced against fredrinn with hylos and gatotkaca. During drafting I said to my brother they needed xborg or alpha jungle, my brother was not a vocal one and I said he'll regret not seriously considering my suggestion. Their ling couldn't move 😂. Their lead just kept building and they made sure they kept it that way 😂.
Fredrinn is still good, u can find me on the leaderboard as im global 15 currently. He's good if u don't overextend on teamfights, he has a strong retri from early to late game because of his ult (yes u should use ur ult to grab the objective because why do you even fight for the turtle?) he's good at punishing enemy heroes and cancelling their skills with his taunt. overall A+ in the tierlist used multiple times to counter heroes like Joy in m6 especially finals. U see that he still fits within the meta but he's a chore to play in the early game. So you should have heroes like hilda or khaleed to help you farm without being invaded in the early game. If u want to run support roamers make one of those aggressive early heroes as ur exp lane. OVERALL HES STILL GOOD AND HE CAN KEEP UP
Wouldn't it be better to secure objectives with his first skill? His ult has a cast animation which can be predicated by the enemy jungler whereas his first skill can be used consecutively with retri
also i wouldnt say fredrinn fell off due to assasin meta but slow item powercreep with things like malefic gun revamp among other things, making the combination of assassin+mms now harder for him to deal with; as well as odette/cecilion benefitting from the current meta a lot tbh
Imo facing assassin jungle as fredrin is not that hard but facing Alpha jungle is the real prob
@4:55 "Look at how much damage he can soak up", tanks three hits and runs while the jawhead kills themselves to save him (he did soak some later but...i wouldnt call it a lot)
not trying to be a hater, just found it funny
As a Fredrinn main myself, I personally recommend keeping him in the exp lane. The nerfs he got were just too much, you'd literally need your team to help you throughout the game, and you'd also need your MM to be strong enough for late game. Currently the meta is favoriting MMs rn, the last buff Fredrinn got isnt gonna be enough to handle all of that.
even in exp he's useless and will be dominated by enemy's exp
@ragequitter88 , I guess but he still has enough durability and what to contend against other Exp laners. Regardless, you still make a good point.
@@elitecharonthat is until you reach lvl 4
@@elitecharon Better to pick Hilda or Hylos for durability imo, the only good reason to pick him in EXP is if the team doesn't have any good cc counter for enemy's annoying dash heroes. And Fred would be eaten up alive in exp if roamer/mage/jungler doesn't visit his lane
@ragequitter88 , that's all true. What's worse is that those two can do more DMG than my boy Fredrinn, I would know for sure 😭😭
Dude your content unlike the vast majority of mlbb content have real quality
@@skyflygame4814 THANKS
Fredrinn is not as strong as his prime after several nerfs , i used to be fred main but i quit using him bcz he is so easy to kill rn and also he cant rlly keep up in the current burst meta.
Only use his ult when low hp and hitting them in middle of ult gives bonus dmg his ult scales of dmg and with queens wings he can 1 shot mms
Just a quick notice the meta right now is kinda changing to fighters meta right now as in pro tournaments the picks of assasins has really dropped down
because in mpl fanny and joy are banned in every game so assassin is still meta, players have to pick fighters because other assassins are mid
Fanny and joy are the only ones wich means they are exeptions and with the update on rose gold the fighter meta is pretty much coming@ragequitter88
The only thing they buffed was his hybrid defense
I m playing roamer with this Hero, its good in solo mythic rank.
How do u win against valir
He deserved the nerf
They should revert some of his nerfs like his ult dmg during early-mid game
that would make him op again
As Fred main, he is done.
they nerf him almost to the ground.
I use a build that gives me more dmg cap from ult, to keep up the oneshot in the lategame. Currently, the dmg cap is 4k. I use War Axe and QW so i think its above 5k now? With WA its like 4599/4699 (i forgot the exact number) and qw boosts ur dmg by 15% so yeah, its really good.
As a benefit you now also have some spell vamp on top of ur crystal energy to hp regen. This build is very tanky and has some CDR to help with ur taunt CD nerf as well as to make ur skills more fluid.
I use tough boots, belt, WA, QW, guardian helm and a flex def item (usually twilight armor). Emblem is tank with 5% CDR (taunt cd nerf is big), jg clear speed and concussive. This works for me.
Im a seasoned tank main and fredrinn works very well because you dont rely on the mercy of ur team to zone the enemy jg away because you can just taunt him. You also have ur first skill or ult to combo with the retri so even someone who doesnt play jg and sucks with retri like me has the ability to take every objective there ever was until i get matched with hardcore jg mains that just diff you no matter what like royal matador lance Dx
Fred has good dmg now with the right build and has a good CD in the lategame. He can definitely brawl very well and if you know what you're doing (as a tank) you can do many great things.
Assassin meta return was a joke, didn't even last long like those tank jungler😂
From assassin meta to assassin/fighter? What's next? Fighter to tank?😂😂
i like him but i perfer the sustain movement and clear of baxia
Is he even meta?
not anymore
@Kiel_Plays why does it feel like he can counter gatotkaca cuz of his durability
@@popAguilar-c3q he cant
@@popAguilar-c3q ult is not true dmg
@@gavintai1 oh ok but it would be a close battle
why are these games are so easy, you made many mistakes and macros. the heroes pool are so outdated.
I’m already at immortal rank, I’m not risking my teammates stars because of me doing experiments