I am glad that there is someone like you who gives us information that the broker will surely not give to the customers. Thanks for sharing this important information
Please guys be careful of handlebar raisers. I get it for comfort but it changes the geometry and takes your weight off the front which has a big impact on traction -Especially off-road. I’ve been to BMW-Rider academy and on one of the tracks they don’t allow bikes with raisers due to the amount of crashes that’s happened with guys using Bar raisers. I’m probably gonna get a lot of flack for this but I’m doing it for your safety. (I’m 1.88 so I many times feel I need them to make standing more comfortable but I never did)
Fair comment. But most professional reviewers agree the bars are set up for asphalt more than off road. I can see your point though. I won't be doing any more than fire trails on mine 👍
It supposed to ride standing up offroad, so you put weight in the front wheel. Of course if you go sitting down offroad is easier to have an accident, with risers or without
@@thejosh0205 yes standing up with body weight on the front, risers puts you more upright, taking body weight off the front wheel. But feel free to educate me, just remember you don’t know me nor my riding proficiency
@@armoth6958 Im not educating you, Im explaining my point of view. I share what you say dude, but in my opinion, I prefer risers because I find more pros than cons.
Ive found all bikes have the alleged throttle thing your talking about, my personal riding is use my thumb and finger to roll on the throttle without moving my wrist, my bike at the moment has a long throttle throw there's no way I could use it without moving my hand at some point, I don't see it has an issue but it's all subjective, I think the clunky gear box will smooth out once it run in. Our opinions are ours. Great bike id love one
Most of the early niggles have sorted themselves out over the last 3500 KMs the throttle turn is still excessive but you get used to rolling your hand from fingers to the heel of your hand to change grip. It's a well put together bike.
When EURO4 regulations were introduced, many new bikes "suddenly got" snatchy throttle response. Like my Versys-X 300. Got used to it, compensating with the clutch. Would be nicer if this wasn't an issue.
Ive recently bought a CF Moto MT 800 Explore i had a GS1250 previously. I changed due to the spiralling cost of the new GS. I had the same snatchy throttle issue on my Explore it went back to the dealers this weekend and they installed an updated map which has not completly solved it but made it an awefull lot better. In essence im sure will get a new map soon .Its a lot to do with the emission requirements of different countries i believe. Ive giv you a sub please give me one back and we can then both track our adventures on our new bikes
Thanks for the info, I will sub. I filled the bike with 98 octain after the video above and it was a huge improvement. I'm guessing the mapping for running in also maybe slightly different. I'll ask them to check for a map update at the first service. ✌️
It is either really amazing or the big Bike manufacturers have been having one over on us. if the competition do not start including better options within the price, plus lower their retail prices; they are going to lose sales to chinese manufactures. Personally i think this is the best value for money and build quality I have seen.
Yes the deflector works ok. I have it set at the lowest setting. It can go up another 5cm but can hinder vision with a passenger then due to rear end sag.
Hi first of all good review, What is your height and have you measured the correct height of the seat from the ground and how does your height fit with the ergonomics of the DS900X? My height is 186cm and I'm afraid if I will fit in ☹️. In the meantime, there will be no test model in my country, the first shipment is coming in the middle of June and if I wait until then there will be no free DS900X left.
I find the seat height perfect for my height. But the footrests are quite high for the overall ground clearance. I find my legs more bent than on my Vstrom. I think there are some options out there to drop the foot pegs. That with bar raisers would make the bike more comfortable.
I am 186 too. Will replace footpegs to sw motech adjustable ones and elevate the seat. But with higher seat I am afraid not even GIVI windshield will be enough... If GIVI comes up with one at all!
Hey, I asked a dealer to measure for me and they measured it at 830mm - way too low for me (I’m 1.88) the dealer only has this height available and can’t seem to order one with a higher seat) - I have serious knee issues so I can’t sit at an extreme angle for long so it’s unfortunately off the cards for me)
You’re riding centre and L/h/s rather a lot on foreign roads. The bike sounds good though. Should demonstrate how the cruise control works too, since you’re complaining about the throttle response a fair bit
The camera is set on far right of the helmet so gives an impression that I'm further left, although on on a lot of our country roads the centre line is the only part of the road that's not full of pot holes. Even the cars drive down the centre if it's clear. Throttle control is fine after 2nd gear, so cruise wouldn't help. Although the cruise control is really good on the voge.
You could have the original re covered but you might lose the heating. The German webpage did show a higher seat height at one stage of 850mm not sure if it's still the same.
To zależy od wyglądu wewnętrznej strony nogi. 76 cm jest w porządku, chociaż nie będziesz mieć płaskich stóp po obu stronach, ale zdecydowanie nie jest to wysoka wysokość siedziska wynosząca 825 mm
Sorry about that the Mic was inside my helmet but there was a bit of wind rattling around my neck. Try putting the subtitles on, it might help, thanks for commenting
If I had test drove one the initial impression might have put me off, but after now covering 600 KMS I would highly recommend buying it. You get accustomed to the way it is. A test ride would be prudent if you have expectations or ride a super smooth Honda for example. Lots of Dual sport adventure bikes are similar to the Voge, KTM for example. The torque and the usable power the motor produces are superb. The minor niggles o have outlined may not be a problem for many, plus I'm guessing over time with mapping and running in most of the points I mentioned would be alleviated.
@@motechRevolution Thanks for the reply. I'm after the bike and waiting for her for a long time. Checking A LOT of reviews like yours helped me so much. I'll try to test drive it this week aswell as the QJ SRT 700x. Cheers from Portugal!
@motechRevolution well, yesterday I tested both the QJ SRT 700x and the Voge DS 900 X, one after the other. And I'm glad I did tested both together. Also, your opinions helped so much aswell. Thank you so much. So, before anything else, I may say I was "in love" for the Voge. That one was my 1st choice. After the test, my opinions: 1) Voge's suspension didn't impressed me; 2) Voge's brakes are good, but not better than the QJ; 3) Ride by wire didn't impressed me (too snatchi - don't know if this how it writes); 4) I couldn't understand how I was on 100 km/h and I felt so much wind in my chest (not on the helmet - that I could stand) with the windscreen all the way up. Again, it was on my chest... 5) No way I would wait 6 months for the bike to arrive. That one put me completely OFF. Again, I tested the QJ first and then the Voge. Only this way I was able to compare. And I was SO IN for the Voge... I could wait 2 months (maximum) for the bike. Voge was not ready for the success. Please keep us posted with your feedback. I wish you safe rides.
@@HorusOliveira you are right on a few points the throttle response is still little off and the screen takes some work with an extender to get right. It's all about our expectations though. I have read so many posts about the BMW 850 GS and they mirror the Voge 900DSX in their ride and feel. I think that for the style of bike, 60 on road and 40 off road the Voge is on par with BMWs f line up and KTM. Triumph tend to be a little smoother but don't have the dual sport pedigree.. So horses for courses. My Vstrom is a superb sport adventure tourer but useless off road. It's all down to your end use. IMO the voge is good at all you ask of it. Not a one trick pony. So in essence like the old land rovers of old not great at everything but good at everything and go anywhere. If we wanted a smooth road bike we would all be on Honda gold wings ✌️ ride safe my friend and thanks for your comments
@@HorusOliveira tmb acho que não vale a pena esperar 6 meses, fui antes para a transalp, é mais cara um bcd mas é bem melhor e demorou menos de uma semana a estar pronta. Cumprimentos
@@qjo156 press on the video window whilst the video is playing, then long press on the CC symbol then choose you subtitle language, I hope this helps ✌️
@@MorrisMbogo4444 nothing wrong with it mate , tried and tested now. Nearly all BMW what's not to like. People have already done 5k trips with zero problems and BMW still have their Engines made by them and some of their bikes.
@@motechRevolution am just surprised by some of the comments here... Very very surprised...i have controlled myself from making other comments and reactions...its like some people started riding on 500cc Japanese bikes or something...
@@MorrisMbogo4444I am not totally understanding your train of thought, I don't mind you saying anything as long as it's not abusive. I have owned lots of Japanese, British, Indian bikes etc. This is my second Chinese built bike. The first was a Benelli scrambler which had a very high build quality.
@@motechRevolution I am a very civil and logical person... I do not result to insults because I am confident I can dish it back in equal proportions😄😄 Anyway, let me explain; we are all conditioned differently and therefore have different biases, preferences, notions, beliefs etc. This is something most people forget. In motorcycles, it is the same and profoundly so especially when it comes to what the larger majority of riders think of Chinese bikes. Here in East Africa and most parts of Africa, we grow up accustomed to and conditioned to very very sketchy Chinese bikes...motorcycles that require the rider to actually make the motorcycle work for whatever application or terrain you put it, sometimes never for its "perceived intended use". Ergo, when I come across a high quality motorcycle, I am more than inclined and happy to work with it as it is and figure out how to draw out the best from it, without being bothered by small issues that have no bearing on the actual joy of it all. Some issues are dangerous security/safety matters, but again, my background always dismisses them with "meh, I've seen worse"... I'd be happy to see and hear what most riders have to say about simple 125cc Chinese bikes....i bet at the end of one week, many would look at their own bikes very very very lovingly.
@@MorrisMbogo4444 thanks for the explanation, yes I am aware of the mass produced low capacity engined Chinese bikes and I agree with you. But I do think they were also very cheap. I know they were in mainland Europe. Although the higher capacity CF Moto and Voge Loncin bikes are cheaper than the opposition, they have quality components and tried and trusted engines. Voge here in Spain gives a full 5 year warranty providing you have main dealership service during that period. It's a testament to all the guys around the world who keep the low quality bikes running, not a mean feat. I know there are tonnes of low capacity Chinese 2 stroke scooters here in Spain that look totally battered but they seem to run forever. Thanks for your comments, especially now I understand them. I think now on a global scale the Chinese must compete in build and quality of their products, more so now in the world economic climate.
I am glad that there is someone like you who gives us information that the broker will surely not give to the customers. Thanks for sharing this important information
Transalp has the same problem with ride by wire throttle. Greets from Benalmádena!
Please guys be careful of handlebar raisers. I get it for comfort but it changes the geometry and takes your weight off the front which has a big impact on traction -Especially off-road. I’ve been to BMW-Rider academy and on one of the tracks they don’t allow bikes with raisers due to the amount of crashes that’s happened with guys using Bar raisers. I’m probably gonna get a lot of flack for this but I’m doing it for your safety. (I’m 1.88 so I many times feel I need them to make standing more comfortable but I never did)
Fair comment. But most professional reviewers agree the bars are set up for asphalt more than off road. I can see your point though. I won't be doing any more than fire trails on mine 👍
It supposed to ride standing up offroad, so you put weight in the front wheel. Of course if you go sitting down offroad is easier to have an accident, with risers or without
@@thejosh0205 yes standing up with body weight on the front, risers puts you more upright, taking body weight off the front wheel. But feel free to educate me, just remember you don’t know me nor my riding proficiency
@@armoth6958 Im not educating you, Im explaining my point of view. I share what you say dude, but in my opinion, I prefer risers because I find more pros than cons.
Absolute nonsence, putting 2inch raisers on a road bike for a normal rider wont make a pick of difference to front end grip..
Ive found all bikes have the alleged throttle thing your talking about, my personal riding is use my thumb and finger to roll on the throttle without moving my wrist, my bike at the moment has a long throttle throw there's no way I could use it without moving my hand at some point, I don't see it has an issue but it's all subjective, I think the clunky gear box will smooth out once it run in. Our opinions are ours. Great bike id love one
Most of the early niggles have sorted themselves out over the last 3500 KMs the throttle turn is still excessive but you get used to rolling your hand from fingers to the heel of your hand to change grip. It's a well put together bike.
When EURO4 regulations were introduced, many new bikes "suddenly got" snatchy throttle response. Like my Versys-X 300. Got used to it, compensating with the clutch. Would be nicer if this wasn't an issue.
Hoping that it's resolved using the clutch slow moving is a pain. Mine has got much better post 600kms
Ive recently bought a CF Moto MT 800 Explore i had a GS1250 previously. I changed due to the spiralling cost of the new GS. I had the same snatchy throttle issue on my Explore it went back to the dealers this weekend and they installed an updated map which has not completly solved it but made it an awefull lot better. In essence im sure will get a new map soon .Its a lot to do with the emission requirements of different countries i believe. Ive giv you a sub please give me one back and we can then both track our adventures on our new bikes
Thanks for the info, I will sub. I filled the bike with 98 octain after the video above and it was a huge improvement. I'm guessing the mapping for running in also maybe slightly different. I'll ask them to check for a map update at the first service. ✌️
@@motechRevolution Oh! Oh!.. 98 Oct, 🤔...Engine compression ratio 13,1:1, 95 Oct no good. ✌
@@brobrosu1600 runs like a scolded cat on 98 octane. A lot smoother I’m going to stick with premium octane for the time being ✌🏻
I watched a guy on UA-cam the other week demonstrating how to irradicate the snatchy throttle on the CFMOTO 800, might also work on your 900?
@@BobfmBali tried it mate on my CF Moto it doesn’t actually work
Thank you for the information about the Voge. How is the fuel consumption?
Greets from germany
Hi no problem, fuel economy is good at 4.3l per 100km. The bike is a big thumbs up from me.
What a bike for the money is fantastic no brained really unless your a German mark fanboy 😂👍
It is either really amazing or the big Bike manufacturers have been having one over on us. if the competition do not start including better options within the price, plus lower their retail prices; they are going to lose sales to chinese manufactures. Personally i think this is the best value for money and build quality I have seen.
How high is that additional wind deflector? Is it worth it? Does it reduce turbulences?
Yes the deflector works ok. I have it set at the lowest setting. It can go up another 5cm but can hinder vision with a passenger then due to rear end sag.
@@motechRevolution where did you get it from?
They are very cheap on Ali express
How much time a day do you ride the motorcycle? Is the seat comfortable for a journey of more than an hour and a half?
@@miko670 ua-cam.com/video/ncASLRVipd0/v-deo.htmlsi=3JgSaeoi9Cp9ksJt
@@miko670 With the Gel seat pads in the Video above, it's fine. The standard seat for me is fine. Although my wife finds it hard.
Thank you for this video! What height is it designed for?
The Seat height is an accessible 825mm high
is it coming to the USA? Does anybody know? Thank you. Excellent video.
I would think so although the European orders have been massive. I don't think they can meet the present production of pre orders.
Hi first of all good review, What is your height and have you measured the correct height of the seat from the ground and how does your height fit with the ergonomics of the DS900X? My height is 186cm and I'm afraid if I will fit in ☹️. In the meantime, there will be no test model in my country, the first shipment is coming in the middle of June and if I wait until then there will be no free DS900X left.
Hi, I am 178cm around 77kg. You will need bar raisers and a higher seat probably.
I find the seat height perfect for my height. But the footrests are quite high for the overall ground clearance. I find my legs more bent than on my Vstrom. I think there are some options out there to drop the foot pegs. That with bar raisers would make the bike more comfortable.
I am 186 too. Will replace footpegs to sw motech adjustable ones and elevate the seat. But with higher seat I am afraid not even GIVI windshield will be enough... If GIVI comes up with one at all!
Hey, I asked a dealer to measure for me and they measured it at 830mm - way too low for me (I’m 1.88) the dealer only has this height available and can’t seem to order one with a higher seat) - I have serious knee issues so I can’t sit at an extreme angle for long so it’s unfortunately off the cards for me)
You’re riding centre and L/h/s rather a lot on foreign roads. The bike sounds good though. Should demonstrate how the cruise control works too, since you’re complaining about the throttle response a fair bit
The camera is set on far right of the helmet so gives an impression that I'm further left, although on on a lot of our country roads the centre line is the only part of the road that's not full of pot holes. Even the cars drive down the centre if it's clear. Throttle control is fine after 2nd gear, so cruise wouldn't help. Although the cruise control is really good on the voge.
Look at my latest video with chin mounted camera, on a A road. 😉
Does anyone know if the seat height can be increased? It's way too low for me (measured at 830mm) I need it at 870mm..
You could have the original re covered but you might lose the heating. The German webpage did show a higher seat height at one stage of 850mm not sure if it's still the same.
Czy przy wzroście 170 cm będę miał problem z dosięganiem nogami do asfaltu?
To zależy od wyglądu wewnętrznej strony nogi. 76 cm jest w porządku, chociaż nie będziesz mieć płaskich stóp po obu stronach, ale zdecydowanie nie jest to wysoka wysokość siedziska wynosząca 825 mm
alot of wind, hard to hear what you are saying
Sorry about that the Mic was inside my helmet but there was a bit of wind rattling around my neck. Try putting the subtitles on, it might help, thanks for commenting
@@motechRevolution will do :)
Would you still recommend the bike? Do you find those problems are serious as if you knew them before, would deter you from buy it?
If I had test drove one the initial impression might have put me off, but after now covering 600 KMS I would highly recommend buying it. You get accustomed to the way it is. A test ride would be prudent if you have expectations or ride a super smooth Honda for example. Lots of Dual sport adventure bikes are similar to the Voge, KTM for example. The torque and the usable power the motor produces are superb. The minor niggles o have outlined may not be a problem for many, plus I'm guessing over time with mapping and running in most of the points I mentioned would be alleviated.
@@motechRevolution Thanks for the reply. I'm after the bike and waiting for her for a long time. Checking A LOT of reviews like yours helped me so much. I'll try to test drive it this week aswell as the QJ SRT 700x. Cheers from Portugal!
@motechRevolution well, yesterday I tested both the QJ SRT 700x and the Voge DS 900 X, one after the other. And I'm glad I did tested both together. Also, your opinions helped so much aswell. Thank you so much.
So, before anything else, I may say I was "in love" for the Voge. That one was my 1st choice.
After the test, my opinions:
1) Voge's suspension didn't impressed me;
2) Voge's brakes are good, but not better than the QJ;
3) Ride by wire didn't impressed me (too snatchi - don't know if this how it writes);
4) I couldn't understand how I was on 100 km/h and I felt so much wind in my chest (not on the helmet - that I could stand) with the windscreen all the way up. Again, it was on my chest...
5) No way I would wait 6 months for the bike to arrive. That one put me completely OFF.
Again, I tested the QJ first and then the Voge. Only this way I was able to compare. And I was SO IN for the Voge...
I could wait 2 months (maximum) for the bike. Voge was not ready for the success.
Please keep us posted with your feedback.
I wish you safe rides.
@@HorusOliveira you are right on a few points the throttle response is still little off and the screen takes some work with an extender to get right. It's all about our expectations though. I have read so many posts about the BMW 850 GS and they mirror the Voge 900DSX in their ride and feel. I think that for the style of bike, 60 on road and 40 off road the Voge is on par with BMWs f line up and KTM. Triumph tend to be a little smoother but don't have the dual sport pedigree.. So horses for courses. My Vstrom is a superb sport adventure tourer but useless off road. It's all down to your end use. IMO the voge is good at all you ask of it. Not a one trick pony. So in essence like the old land rovers of old not great at everything but good at everything and go anywhere. If we wanted a smooth road bike we would all be on Honda gold wings ✌️ ride safe my friend and thanks for your comments
@@HorusOliveira tmb acho que não vale a pena esperar 6 meses, fui antes para a transalp, é mais cara um bcd mas é bem melhor e demorou menos de uma semana a estar pronta. Cumprimentos
How much is the deposit? thank you.
...17 L. ✌
Hay un vídeo de un hombre inglés que regula el acelerador que dijo era como el BMW,
Ese chico inglés soy yo 😉
@@motechRevolution 🤣🤣🤣bueno pues entonces ya sabes cómo es👍✌️✌️
the wind blows a lot. I'm interested in what he's talking about. but it's so annoying.😒
@@qjo156 press on the video window whilst the video is playing, then long press on the CC symbol then choose you subtitle language, I hope this helps ✌️
Heh... 😅 People have never ridden crappy bikes... 😂😂 Weuh...
@@MorrisMbogo4444 nothing wrong with it mate , tried and tested now. Nearly all BMW what's not to like. People have already done 5k trips with zero problems and BMW still have their Engines made by them and some of their bikes.
@@motechRevolution am just surprised by some of the comments here... Very very surprised...i have controlled myself from making other comments and reactions...its like some people started riding on 500cc Japanese bikes or something...
@@MorrisMbogo4444I am not totally understanding your train of thought, I don't mind you saying anything as long as it's not abusive. I have owned lots of Japanese, British, Indian bikes etc. This is my second Chinese built bike. The first was a Benelli scrambler which had a very high build quality.
@@motechRevolution I am a very civil and logical person... I do not result to insults because I am confident I can dish it back in equal proportions😄😄 Anyway, let me explain; we are all conditioned differently and therefore have different biases, preferences, notions, beliefs etc. This is something most people forget. In motorcycles, it is the same and profoundly so especially when it comes to what the larger majority of riders think of Chinese bikes.
Here in East Africa and most parts of Africa, we grow up accustomed to and conditioned to very very sketchy Chinese bikes...motorcycles that require the rider to actually make the motorcycle work for whatever application or terrain you put it, sometimes never for its "perceived intended use".
Ergo, when I come across a high quality motorcycle, I am more than inclined and happy to work with it as it is and figure out how to draw out the best from it, without being bothered by small issues that have no bearing on the actual joy of it all.
Some issues are dangerous security/safety matters, but again, my background always dismisses them with "meh, I've seen worse"...
I'd be happy to see and hear what most riders have to say about simple 125cc Chinese bikes....i bet at the end of one week, many would look at their own bikes very very very lovingly.
@@MorrisMbogo4444 thanks for the explanation, yes I am aware of the mass produced low capacity engined Chinese bikes and I agree with you. But I do think they were also very cheap. I know they were in mainland Europe. Although the higher capacity CF Moto and Voge Loncin bikes are cheaper than the opposition, they have quality components and tried and trusted engines. Voge here in Spain gives a full 5 year warranty providing you have main dealership service during that period. It's a testament to all the guys around the world who keep the low quality bikes running, not a mean feat. I know there are tonnes of low capacity Chinese 2 stroke scooters here in Spain that look totally battered but they seem to run forever. Thanks for your comments, especially now I understand them. I think now on a global scale the Chinese must compete in build and quality of their products, more so now in the world economic climate.