Great video. Just a remark on the VANOS high pressure pump backlash: The backlash shall be measured horizintally with dial indicator finger that can measure the rotational backlash. the dial gauge you are using seems to be a standard dial gauge to measure vertical displacement.
At the time of the recording, I did not know. But when I put the engine in the car and after we made an oil dipstick, while the pan was off, I double checked and indeed it was off by a little so I re-did the lash.
Hi Very interesting watching thanks. Quick question as I’m currently re building an s85. Where the main oil pump meets the bed plate and the oil passes up to the pipe to the oil filter is there no seal or sealant? Or does it just mate together dry ? Cheers
That's an interesting thing because the S65 V8's from the M3's of this generation, they DO have a seal there. When I was removing mine at first, there was nothing there. Sure you can argue that maybe someone else was there before me, but when I was looking up parts for this specific job, even realoem.com doesn't show anything. The BMW TIS doesn't mention any seals either which makes me believe there are no seals there. If anyone has a part number for it, please send it my way because if I'm misunderstanding something, I'd want to fix it.
@@YEVSBUILDS Thanks for the reply. I have also studied real oem and tis and found no seal or mention of one and also don’t recall anything during the strip down so maybe there is nothing there Cheers
That's an awesome video, like all others. I just have got e60 m5 with crazy loud rattling VANOS noise at idle. What do you think should I pay attention extra other than VANOS line and the pump? What other components can get worse because of low pressure in VANOS system?
Appreciate you! These V10's naturally have a ticking sound from the vanos: that's just how they are. If it's stupid loud, then yes theres something wrong. It could be the solenoids but you'd most likely have low pressure. If your oil pressure is good, from what I know, there shouldnt be any abnormal ticking coming from the vanos un its. If the pressure is low, it could be a few things like the oil pressure hose's, the vanos unit internal seals went bad, solenoids, etc..
Sorry to say it but this is not done correctly. When you rotate the engine 180, the crankshaft will drop down about 0,02 and your measurement will be tight. 0,06-0,08 is the clearance when the engine is in the car.
@@YEVSBUILDS maybe Derya meant angling your instrument differently to measure radial movement. Cool video and project! www.racingjunk.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Lead-Art-3.jpg
@@YEVSBUILDS Yeah, that's definitely wrong. That method is correct for a finger style indicator, but not correct for the vertical indicator which you had.
To do it properly you angle the gauge so its measuring head sits against one face of a tooth, it doesn't truly matter which type of Dial Test Indicator you have, there are two types one with a ball head which measures horizontal deflection and one with a pin which measures vertical movement. As long as they are angled so they are pointing slightly towards the face of the tooth, both will measure the lash which needs to be 0.8mm on this engine.
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Great video. Just a remark on the VANOS high pressure pump backlash: The backlash shall be measured horizintally with dial indicator finger that can measure the rotational backlash. the dial gauge you are using seems to be a standard dial gauge to measure vertical displacement.
Did you know you get more play in vanos gear with motor upside down?
At the time of the recording, I did not know. But when I put the engine in the car and after we made an oil dipstick, while the pan was off, I double checked and indeed it was off by a little so I re-did the lash.
Hi. Great video. Assembling mine s85 now, whats the name of this tool, and how to use it properly? Thanks
8:05, shims underneath "that" ?? Did you mean the chain rail guide? What type of shims should be used?
That's what I meant, I misspoke. There are no shims there.
As always a great educational video keep it up
Appreciate you brotha!
awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate you
Hi
Very interesting watching thanks. Quick question as I’m currently re building an s85. Where the main oil pump meets the bed plate and the oil passes up to the pipe to the oil filter is there no seal or sealant? Or does it just mate together dry ?
Cheers
That's an interesting thing because the S65 V8's from the M3's of this generation, they DO have a seal there. When I was removing mine at first, there was nothing there. Sure you can argue that maybe someone else was there before me, but when I was looking up parts for this specific job, even realoem.com doesn't show anything. The BMW TIS doesn't mention any seals either which makes me believe there are no seals there. If anyone has a part number for it, please send it my way because if I'm misunderstanding something, I'd want to fix it.
@@YEVSBUILDS
Thanks for the reply.
I have also studied real oem and tis and found no seal or mention of one and also don’t recall anything during the strip down so maybe there is nothing there
Cheers
That's an awesome video, like all others. I just have got e60 m5 with crazy loud rattling VANOS noise at idle. What do you think should I pay attention extra other than VANOS line and the pump? What other components can get worse because of low pressure in VANOS system?
Appreciate you! These V10's naturally have a ticking sound from the vanos: that's just how they are. If it's stupid loud, then yes theres something wrong. It could be the solenoids but you'd most likely have low pressure. If your oil pressure is good, from what I know, there shouldnt be any abnormal ticking coming from the vanos un its. If the pressure is low, it could be a few things like the oil pressure hose's, the vanos unit internal seals went bad, solenoids, etc..
@@YEVSBUILDS what if it whines? I got my solenoids and pump brand new replaced and there’s a noticeable whine
Sorry to say it but this is not done correctly. When you rotate the engine 180, the crankshaft will drop down about 0,02 and your measurement will be tight. 0,06-0,08 is the clearance when the engine is in the car.
Yeah, I've actually later redone this procedure with the engine being in the car and it was ever so slightly off I've realized. Strtange
dude sorry but you measure it wrong... but in general very cool :D
Haha appreciate the double handed comment. What did measure wrong? I'm curious
@@YEVSBUILDS maybe Derya meant angling your instrument differently to measure radial movement. Cool video and project! www.racingjunk.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Lead-Art-3.jpg
@@YEVSBUILDS andrius v shows a picture how to measure it writght but due cool stuff :)
@@YEVSBUILDS Yeah, that's definitely wrong. That method is correct for a finger style indicator, but not correct for the vertical indicator which you had.
So you just "put that pin somewhere in between the teeth" seems easy enough
To do it properly you angle the gauge so its measuring head sits against one face of a tooth, it doesn't truly matter which type of Dial Test Indicator you have, there are two types one with a ball head which measures horizontal deflection and one with a pin which measures vertical movement. As long as they are angled so they are pointing slightly towards the face of the tooth, both will measure the lash which needs to be 0.8mm on this engine.