Bad News For current and future PMP's

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  • @AndrewRamdayal
    @AndrewRamdayal  Рік тому +24

    Here is the link to the new simulator: tiaexams.com/pmp-exam-prep-simulator/
    Link to my live PMP Class at: www.tiaeduonline.com/training_pmp_course.html
    Here is a link to my study guide on Amazon: www.amazon.com/PMP-Exam-Prep-Simplified-Learning/dp/B08SBFTXQT
    Link to my Study Guide eBook: tiaexams.com/pmp-exam-prep-simulator/

    • @romaro_c
      @romaro_c Рік тому +1

      Hey Andrew! I recently earned my PMP as well as my PSMI, and PSMII. Your materials assisted me in those accomplishments! Thanks! I agree with you 100% as it does take more than certifications. I've continued to study daily even after receiving my certifications. I've even hired a mentor who is a Sr. Project Manager. All of my previous experience comes from running my own companies over the last 10 years. With that being said, I have a lot of transferable skills but not necessarily the structure. From interviewing and studying I find that each organization has their own way of running projects and regardless of what we study, we will have to learn the company's way of doing things. With that being said do you recommend new PMP holders to revisit your course? Purchase your book? or is there another way you see fit for us to gain the actual knowledge needed that we would apply on a daily basis? A lot of us studied hard for months to get this PMP and followed your suggestions and now it seems like we're being called out for doing so. Just looking for a little clarity and direction. I appreciate all of your contributions to the PM community! I look forward to your response!

    • @SamiulAlHossaini
      @SamiulAlHossaini Рік тому +1

      Let me tell you the REAL reason! A LOT of folks get certified CHATING!, thats right, cheating in the PMP exam!!!! PMP is one of the most cheated certification in the field of IT! Mostly there are lots of groups in india and worlwide that help people cheating in the exam and the number is ASTONISHINGLY large! You pay them money online and they will give the exam on behalf of you no matter in which country you are!!! Unless PMP only authorizes designated centers for certifications and change their format, this will ONLY destroy the real examinees and the PMP body itself! Please find out more on this!! 🙏

    • @ljdesigns1
      @ljdesigns1 Рік тому

      Hi Andrew
      The Mock Exam 1 does not go past 1 so I am not able to answer all the questions. Do full version of Mock Exam 1 & Mock Exam 2.

    • @ljdesigns1
      @ljdesigns1 Рік тому

      Hi Andrew, I need to get the 3 Mock Exams the only one I can complete is Mock Exam 2. However, I want to also do Mock exams 1 & 3.
      Mock Exam 1
      Quiz
      1 / 203
      The project manager decides to use an agile approach for a project. What should the project manager do to revise the stakeholder engagement plan so that it follows agile principles?
      Design a more robust digital communication system.
      Avoid delays by working directly with stakeholders rather than going through management.
      Make sure all team members are attending standup meetings and include product backlog progression and burndown rate for all templates.
      Hold a number of professional workshops to address important stakeholder concerns, including the project sponsor and client.
      Mock Exam 2 (pdf format)
      TIAEducationGroupPMPMockExam202121.
      A project manager managing a video simulator project was informed by one of the team members about a complex problem that can have a drastic negative impact on the project. The project manager immediately defined the cause of the problem by analyzing the problem using a fishbone diagram, identified a solution, and implemented the solution. The project manager recently received a call from the same team member and was informed that the same problem had resurfaced. What did the project manager most likely forget to do?
      A. Validate the solution with the sponsors.
      B. Confirm that the solution actually solved the problem.
      C. Use a Pareto chart.
      D. Identify why the problem occurred.
      Mock Exam 3
      Quiz
      1 / 199
      While working on a project, the project manager notices that most of the time is spent resolving conflicts between members of the project team. What is the best tool the project manager can use to resolve the problems amongst the team members?
      Expert judgement
      Interpersonal team skills
      Training
      Collocation

    • @padmavathikoduru8120
      @padmavathikoduru8120 Рік тому

      Hi Andrew I want to CAPM exam is there latest materials or course and how much time I need to prepare to pass CAPM exam and all. Please

  • @brentbacon3698
    @brentbacon3698 Рік тому +160

    People often ask me why it took me 6 months to get my PMP certification. I tell them because I wanted to learn the information, concepts, and best practices, and not to simply prepare for an exam.

    • @a.p.2018
      @a.p.2018 Рік тому +8

      did 6 moths help you any better than those without but still have the certificate to get a job?

    • @KamManswell
      @KamManswell 6 місяців тому +3

      This is why I took the CAPM 1st to get foundational knowledge & to be able to understand things when in meetings or people talking about things. I wanted to learn even though most of what I’ve learned I’ve never actually used.

  • @msdkadam
    @msdkadam 11 місяців тому +37

    This is a damn good advice to all the PMP aspirants, not just to look at certification. But to acquire knowledge and use it.

    • @missmishmish69
      @missmishmish69 6 місяців тому +1

      It's hard to retain all the material if you do not use it daily.

  • @pixiedragon1697
    @pixiedragon1697 Рік тому +102

    Very valid points, Andrew. But I think that some people need to have the chance to apply what they've learned through experience. They learn the material just for the exam and if they are not given the opportunity to apply the material through working in the field they don't fully understand and grasp the concepts. Thank you for your videos and book. I would not have passed the exam without them!

    • @Mr_Vita
      @Mr_Vita Рік тому +9

      But, to get a PMP you must have at least 36 months of work experience in the project management field. So everybody should have sufficient experience because it is a prerequisite.

    • @empowermedia3654
      @empowermedia3654 Рік тому +6

      I remember working on projects and we only used some of the tools. Even to customized waterfall approach. A lot of what I learned with out the PMP was how things were done. Andrew made a valid point to which if was not paying attention I would not have passed the exam. " Learn the proper systems and process from PM OK " In the early chapters there were times I said I know this tool or method and their were times my reaction was we don't do it that way ?
      The reality is that if you invested the time and money for become the best PM you can be the certification is just a key to unlock bigger more fulfilling jobs.

    • @nathanmountford7768
      @nathanmountford7768 Рік тому +1

      This would be my observation too. If a manager is interviewing someone with a PMP cert and no prior experience… you either should expect to do some on-the-job mentoring… or interview people who have prior experience. This really seems like a failing on the part of the Recruiter/Manager 😒

    • @rameezrajajafardeen6741
      @rameezrajajafardeen6741 Рік тому

      Hi

    • @obedience7641
      @obedience7641 Рік тому

      @@Mr_Vita … great point!

  • @MichaelStone337
    @MichaelStone337 Рік тому +188

    As someone very interested in breaking into project management, my greatest fear is being a paper tiger. I don't just want the cert, I want the knowledge that is behind the cert.

    • @marytakon
      @marytakon Рік тому +11

      *IF* They hire you to actually put knowledge to paper 😄

    • @JustAGrl007
      @JustAGrl007 Рік тому +2

      Same!

    • @TheRVSN
      @TheRVSN Рік тому +2

      I was working as a UNIX sysadmin coordinating changes in operations when I was suggested to change my job to a project manager. To my knowledge PMI company requires some proof of practice (let say a reference to your manager who confirms) in project management before you are allowed to be certified - I am not sure whether that is still the case. There is nothing you cannot understand in PMBOK by PMI so get a book, educate yourself and analyze how you execute processes and work with knowledge areas in your private life and your job. Once you understand how you have been using the theory in practice, you are not a paper tiger anymore.

    • @ohfuckitall
      @ohfuckitall 11 місяців тому +2

      Allrighty, I can add to that.
      Before you start worrying about your image of being a paper tiger (I understand the insecurity), I would say that maybe consider worrying about flushing significant amount of company money in the toilet by failing a project due to ineffective project management.
      And you know what helps you not to do that? Having at least the book knowledge on what to do, and in which order 😅 Being a PM is dealing with lots of ambiguity and having the structure, the framework, the discipline - helps you drive through. Honestly, I don't know how I survived the first 2 project without proper scope and risk documentation. Lots of tears I guess :D

    • @lpaone01
      @lpaone01 5 місяців тому +2

      Michael, Take Andrews course and study hard and become a PMP. It is very rewarding. also, the last time I heard, they weren't issuing PMP certifications, MBAs or commencement speeches in taverns during happy hour -- meaning, you need to study on weekends. Take it seriously. I was a tech engineer who made the transition and have never looked back and have no regrets.

  • @percys8774
    @percys8774 Рік тому +45

    Hi Andrew, I took you class and just passed the PMP thanks to you a couple months ago. As with any certification it covers a broad range of info, and then once you start at a job is where you learn the most and actually apply the info as needed. The PMP is an especially enormous body of knowledge, and now that I've passed the test I'm not waking up everyday to study and drill the concepts. I'm focused on getting a job, and I'm expecting the right job to consider the full scope of what I bring to the table, not give me a PMP test in the interview. You obviously are the expert, but remember that a key part of obtaining the PMP is proving a lot of prior project management experience. The test confirmed that I also have the ability and diligence to study and pass a tough test. But the most important thing isn't the test, what's more important is I've managed a ton of projects, I have the proven experience and compunction to excel at the next company that gives me a shot. And as far as the PMP jargon, I don't have it memorized, I don't know if I could pass the test again right now today without studying again, but I do know I understand all the concepts and can look up any tools and lingo as needed to do my next job. That's my take, and thanks again for all you do!

  • @jijogorgeraj
    @jijogorgeraj Рік тому +19

    Hi Andrew, I would say that the certification is about knowledge,but very few industries actually use it. New or jr. Project managers rarely get to use what they learn. Hence it's difficult to blame.

  • @Rajk-ks2fl
    @Rajk-ks2fl Рік тому +37

    I passed my PMP today, thank you so much Andrew, you played key role in my sucess, ur udemy course and TIA simulator is strongly recommend 🎉 btw I wore blue shirt today ☺️

    • @callendergirl7504
      @callendergirl7504 Рік тому +2

      Congratulations! (not an easy exam)

    • @nicolenicole2638
      @nicolenicole2638 11 місяців тому

      Congratulations - how long did it take for the application to be approved

  • @EldonElledge
    @EldonElledge Рік тому +6

    As a software developer with over 30 years of experience with 20 years of managing projects and teams, I have been thinking about getting my PMP for a while now. I am a huge aviate for agile.
    I was very happy to see this video. One of the biggest issues I think we face is places commercializing Certs just for the sake of the money while actually destroying the value of the Cert.
    I just bought you PMP Cert course the book and signed up for the 35-hour course. I have also taken most of the courses on Pluralsight that qualify for training for the Cert. When said and done, I'll have around 90 hours, plus years of experience.
    I am glad I found and all of the material you provide. Thank you.

  • @jennieripley6129
    @jennieripley6129 Рік тому +9

    Your orange shirt adds to the passion of this video - like fire! I am currently studying for the exam and won't take it until I understand as much as I possibly can. My house is covered in post it notes, charts, definitions, formulas, and various ideas that I am trying to learn - not just memorize for the exam. I have done some deep dives into concepts that I needed more practice on like earned value management and critical path. I feel strongly that if I am going to pass the test then I need to understand the concepts enough to be able to teach it to my kids. So my teen daughters have been enduring earned value management practice with me on some of the endeavors we have undertaken as family like fostering litters of kittens and our vegetable garden. They might think I'm nuts, but I'm learning. And so are they! Thanks for all you do, Andrew!

    • @kinkycurlymanestay
      @kinkycurlymanestay Рік тому

      I can relate to this. When I was studying for the CAPM, I asked my husband to read the last 10 -15 pages for the evening (my brain was fried)...he was like please don't ask me to read this book again 🤣

  • @mcallag777
    @mcallag777 Рік тому +4

    I agree with what you said. Taking a class to get the 35 hours to take a test and get a certification without really understanding and learning is worthless and ultimately leads to the certification being degraded and discounted by employers. However, employers who will not even interview me even with 15 years of project management experience (more than 4000 hours), SCRUM Master certification, and Agile Project facilitator overvalue a certification.
    Before I completed your course thru Udemy, I had a hard time even getting an interview, because I did not have the 3 letters PMP on my resume. After I completed your course and took the test, and added those letters, I had multiple interviews nd a job offer in 90 days. My real world job experience was the same, but now, my resume passed the software screening and the HR admins and got to a hiring manager and I was able to share my experience and knowledge in an interview.
    The PMP Certification is a crutch used by HR departments to avoid blame for hiring mistakes.
    I did like your course and your study guide. I like it was knowledgeable, very thorough, and I did learn new things. But ultimately, it was to complete 35 hours, to take a test, to get an interview.

  • @ramuiily5838
    @ramuiily5838 Рік тому +71

    PMP certificate is just for getting the interview calls, in my view we follow only 40% of PMP rules(Mindset) and the rest we need to follow the company rules or other options which were given in PMP questions😊

    • @sandeepshankar3529
      @sandeepshankar3529 Рік тому +5

      Sir not a single methodology was used in my last 4 projects

    • @zak3159
      @zak3159 Рік тому

      ​@sandeepshankar3529 no change management??

    • @sandeepshankar3529
      @sandeepshankar3529 Рік тому +4

      @@zak3159 exceptions.. but literally every account i worked with has a different org setup , resource allocation, budget is something what is not in our hand, not saying PMP certificate is a a waste but i agree that you need to be PMP certified, experience matters

    • @-ma
      @-ma Рік тому +5

      When applying for a job they ask and give higher priority to PMP certification, but end up not using those methodologies at the job.

    • @rimighosh5024
      @rimighosh5024 2 місяці тому

      Very true

  • @lisan2024
    @lisan2024 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I took PM courses in college (just graduated in December) and studied for months after that. I was so happy to find you on UA-cam and use your simulator, a couple of weeks before taking my test. I wore blue, and I passed my test - 3 AT. Thank you for your insight, and for being one of the contributors to my passing!

  • @kunlesaleem6375
    @kunlesaleem6375 Рік тому +4

    You are absolutely right, but most time organizations looking for Certified Project Manager caused it, as some of them don't look beyond PMP Certification when recruiting, even if you have years of both Field and Office Practice, instead of given you the interview opportunity to proof yourself, once you don't have the PMP Certification the interview in not for you, But project management is beyond passing the PMP Certification as there is clear difference between passing the PMP Exams and ability to use the passed Certification to complement project knowledge you have acquired in your years of working in organization.
    My advised is organization should minimized too much emphasis on certification during interview, company can at time motivate successful candidate without Certification to get one, if he has expected skills and experience needed for the job

  • @hiveera
    @hiveera Рік тому +8

    You made a valid point. Learning never ends - keeping this attitude helps

  • @cliftondayeiii3665
    @cliftondayeiii3665 Рік тому +6

    I believe part of the issue is, most, if not all employment opportunities that pay well, prefer a PMP certification. Why not find the person whose a right fit for the environment and train them up. They offer more for certification, so most, if not all people become certified.

  • @edicarlosac
    @edicarlosac Рік тому +10

    Andrew, I’m studying using your course and materials, even reading comments that only mindset and Agile section is needed for the exam. Your words could sounds hard for someone, but for me, it motivates me to continue diving deep into all topics from this certification. Keep going Andrew! And thanks in advance, I’ll keep updated after pass my cert, and trust, anyone who study all your content, can’t be a “paper holder” - only if skip and want to go through this way.

  • @spartanlc29
    @spartanlc29 Рік тому +8

    I agree with everything you said Andrew, and this does not only happen with PMP, but many other certifications. People need to take pride in themselves and their work, put in the work, pass the exam, and be confident that their newfound knowledge will help them in their new endeavors.

  • @moniquecayo5250
    @moniquecayo5250 Рік тому +2

    Oooooohhhhh Andrew!
    The filling you have doing this video is exactly the same I have had few days ago when I saw someone giving 35 hours PMP training for 4 days of lessons.
    When I shared my disappointment for such practise, they tried to convince me that if they are expert in project management, It is possible.
    I closed the discussion by telling them that they don't want to have certified people who are able to do the job, but the person who can give them money very quickly and learn the basics of project process on the field.
    I totally agree with you!

  • @lindabentley7624
    @lindabentley7624 10 місяців тому +2

    I felt like my dad was upset and lecturing me. Thanks. I needed that. ❤

  • @randyzeroth4098
    @randyzeroth4098 Рік тому +1

    I love this video. Thank you for making this very clear. It is a tragedy when someone has a good memory but has no real-world application and practice under their belt. You got my respect through this video.
    One thing that gets on my nerves as well is this movement on social media that attacks "managers" and exalts "leaders". It seems to me that a false light can be put on project "managers" to make them seem like they are cold, tyrannical, etc. In reality, we take our job seriously, try to abide by the PMI Code of Ethics, and get things done in a professional and ethical way.

  • @Tubesquatch1
    @Tubesquatch1 Рік тому +2

    I have been watching your videos and studying your book, but this video made me a fan. Thank you for your passion.

  • @thembamoyo5835
    @thembamoyo5835 Рік тому +2

    Wow what a powerful and mind boggling video. I personally agree with you 500% and i have always told my juniors that getting the certification does not make you a better project manager. You can study for 2 weeks and pass but that does not make you a good PM. I have met people who can not differentiate between an issue and a risk but are PMP certified. Continuous professional development, studying and keeping yourself up to date is critical. Certification is good because you can prove that you have studied but you have to remain relevant and up to date with the changing trends.

  • @h.b.9232
    @h.b.9232 Рік тому +1

    You are absolutely right. Just understand; Everyone needs everything at the same time, can't get it the same way, if at all!
    The competitive environment is unbalanced, desperate and extremely challenging.
    Most men want to be crowned Mr. Olympia but all aren't willing or able to pump that damn iron.
    This is not an excuse for those who aren't completely dedicated as you are to the profession.

  • @songsongsingasong
    @songsongsingasong Рік тому +4

    Agreed! People on Reddit are bragging about studying for 3 weeks and getting their PMPs. Personally I take the course, study the materials, go through the contents and examine my weaknesses as I go. I want to get the PMP because I have many years of experience but the certification is a beast of its own and I need coaching on that. Regardless of how "easy" they brag about getting the PMP, it's up to the hiring manager to weed out the inexperienced PMPs. I don't know who these braggers are but it's hardly ever a concern for me that they have the PMP, experience and performance is still key.

  • @mgarner008
    @mgarner008 Рік тому +1

    Andrew, I am studying your book right now for the PMP. Taking a deep dive into all chapters spending a good 3-4 days on each chapter and then another day on the exam questions. I couldn’t agree more with your assessment in this video. I will admit some frustrations in studying the material, as there is so much of it, but it has certainly sharpened my skills just reading this material. I certainly agree that this shouldn’t be something to add to the resume. I have 11 years of project management experience so far in top of another 8-9 years of technical work and I have a whole new respect for the PMP now. I also have the PE license for engineering. I think this PMP material is tougher than what I had To go through for the PE exam!

  • @beingtathagat7228
    @beingtathagat7228 Рік тому +5

    Well said Andrew, but I remember you once said if a person is doing 10 years project management in job, his experience won't make him necessarily to pass the PMP, while a person who is in school if went through your course and mindset without having real time experience in PM would be likely able to pass PMP. So until and unless there is a sync between PMP exam and project management real life work, we will be seeing this, as both are different. I won't have cleared my PMP without your course. Thanks so much!

  • @rainman2984
    @rainman2984 Рік тому +6

    I see the certification as a starting point to a long journey of knowledge and experience. Studying won’t give you what you need, applying it in real life will

  • @MT-lr5sd
    @MT-lr5sd Рік тому +4

    Agree Andrew
    Hope PMI does something about this very quickly!
    It's no good to be a PMP certified and know nothing about project management!
    Hope PMI listens!

  • @christinarusso5950
    @christinarusso5950 Рік тому +15

    When I took my 35 hour class, the first thing the instructor asked was, "Why are you taking this course?" And I really thought it was a good way to start the class. My reason was that I'm in a PMO with all new members and no set processes. It's a bit chaotic because everyone is running their projects differently, but we all have the same type of deliverables. While I have managed projects before I joined this PMO, I wanted to become better to help myself and my peers. Taking the class really helped me understand good practices. I studied for 6 months after the class to make sure I knew the content and was able to apply it. It also got me really interested in agile since all of my projects to date have been traditional. It is frustrating that so many people get the cert just to pad their resume. I see the PMP cert as a way to improve myself and others and to network within my state chapter.

  • @consultcorpgroup1231
    @consultcorpgroup1231 Рік тому +1

    You are totally “Correct”. The mindset is to be changed. The new generation need to study to “Learn” 🙏🏼

  • @andrearodriguez4402
    @andrearodriguez4402 Рік тому +5

    I have been on this PMP journey for about a year now. I came across your book and your videos in April 2023. I will admit that I underestimated the amount of stress taking this test would actually bring. It wasn’t until I got into your course that I realized the gravity of the situation, I thoroughly enjoyed taking your course and it helped create a foundation in which to build my knowledge. However, to the credit of the 2-week study crowd, they did provide some additional study tools that helped further expand the knowledge I was getting in the TIA course. Overall I agree with what you are saying but I am not mad at the hackers, I’ll happily take their secrets. There are all different kinds of learning and with technology you can be introduced to all of them right from the comfort of your own home.

  • @evensulysse865
    @evensulysse865 Рік тому +7

    It took me three years to study and I'm still studying because that is what subject matter experts do.. Thank God for PDU ‘s. People need to know you can't fake knowledge and skill in this space... Thanks Andrew your content is a breath of fresh air .

  • @HatshepsutVaro
    @HatshepsutVaro Рік тому +4

    I was surprised how many UA-camrs showed up in my suggestions saying they finished in two weeks studying, but seeing their methods as you noted it’s just the paper, and gosh PM involves much more, I am loving your course because I am a PM but working as functional lead and a lot you show is making me either understand more what I am doing or either expanding what I didn’t know. Thanks Andrew, I am learning a lot! I am worried of passing the exam because I find it difficult getting rid of what I am seeing daily and breaking this way of thinking, but the knowledge gathered during the course is other level!

  • @briangee541
    @briangee541 Рік тому +5

    Sir! Due in no small part to your program, I passed the PMP exam on Monday! Thank you very much for your product offering. I will do my best to carry the torch and not devalue the certification. 😀

  • @kaleemazeem7602
    @kaleemazeem7602 Рік тому +1

    Sir @AndrewRamdayal you are absolutely right about it. It is like buying your book from Amazon, reading it once and dumbing it in the garbage, pretending that you know everything.
    Knowledge is an ongoing process without any age limit or processes in life. The more you have, the more oneself is competent and wiser than others and yes knowledge is the key in trumping your competition. Takecare and well spoken.

  • @kbyeboah4414
    @kbyeboah4414 7 місяців тому

    Great advice, Andrew. I took my exams on 01-04-2024. It was my first attempt and passed with 2AT and 1T. I have been managing waterfall projects for a long time, and therefore, I focused more on the Agile to get the certification. I am not looking for a job interview, but rather to help me manage projects better at my current job. I relied solely on your 35-hour course and your best-selling book to sail through. Thank you once again. This is Daniel Yeboah-Forson.

  • @mohammedabdulmajeed1325
    @mohammedabdulmajeed1325 Рік тому +3

    Well said Andrew, agreed 100% with you and thanks for raising this concern and we all PMP ians should think about it from the moment now.

  • @Morgana.I
    @Morgana.I Рік тому +1

    Relevant comments. Hope most of these folks sit and dive to the knowledge itself, apply it in real projects and validate PMP title. Great walk troughs, real-live examples in you courses. Greetings and keep on going, Andrew!

  • @edwardreed2874
    @edwardreed2874 Рік тому

    I am new to the PMP training. I have owned my own business for the last 20 years and have not even thought about developing my skills or learning anything new, other than the applications for my business. Prior to that I was a construction manager in the wireless telecom world, a retail district manager, before that I was a general manager in the restaurant industry. This is literally the first video I have watched about PMP certification and it couldn't have happened at a better time. My belief was that with a PMP cert and my years of management experience I would do well. This "rant" truly helps me focus on learning, not passing a test. It certainly brings questions to all the early 20 year olds I see that have their PMP certifications and almost no work history... I just signed up for your class on Udemy and will order the supplemental book. Thank you for this "rant".

  • @y.k.a6677
    @y.k.a6677 Рік тому +1

    I totally agree 100% with you, most of the people their concern is to get the certificate not the knowledge. Thank you for your video, it gives me the desire to learn more and seek for knowledge.

  • @Elder_Millennial_
    @Elder_Millennial_ Рік тому +1

    I love the rant, and I agree with you about the folks who just blitz studying in a weekend boot camp without properly learning or applying PMP principles/concepts.
    In reality every project manager has their own style of leading projects, but the PMP framework is crucial in establishing some logical common foundation shared between projects.
    Having gone through the exam this year, I couldn't imagine even attempting the exam without at least 2 months of prep to actually work through and retain the material.
    Thanks for being an active voice in the PMP community and continuing to challenge the status quo

  • @Nanoo777
    @Nanoo777 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Andrew for this. As somebody who began their travels down the PMP road just over three years ago, and sees a lot of these comments being posted on Reddit, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I went back to a well-respected University to do their Project Management Certificate at the start of the Pandemic and earned my CAPM shortly after landing a Program Management role. While I no longer need the 35 contact hours for the PMP Application as I have my CAPM, I'm still doing your Udemy course as a refresher (and actually watching them/making notes). I'll then likely watch a few YT videos and then do SH but I want to put an effort into obtaining this with a better understanding of everything instead of simply doing enough to pass an exam and get a piece of paper. As you said, letters after a name do not make a person.

  • @Muthuswamy_Venugopala_Iyer
    @Muthuswamy_Venugopala_Iyer 10 місяців тому

    5:27 this is absolutely true. I have interviewed people who have multiple certifications in my area of work and those who don’t have certifications but relevant work experience. Sadly, I have rejected almost 90% of those who have certification. Coz they just have certification with no knowledge in the area in which they are certified! (I am ok with not having working experience). So it is absolutely true that certification can only get you to job interview, but having just certification without knowledge, will make it so much more difficult to get the job.

  • @kennynoel2863
    @kennynoel2863 Рік тому +6

    I passed the PMP using your course, and I will constantly use it as a reference in the future for project management.
    PMP is my favorite cert I hold because the concepts are very applicable in the real world. Alot of other certs have concepts that change too quickly to be valuable long term.

  • @mukhtarmehdi
    @mukhtarmehdi Рік тому +1

    I totally agree with you Andrew and you have mentioned all the valid points as the PMP certificate is of no use if it's just merely adding it next to the name.

  • @anandselvam9904
    @anandselvam9904 Рік тому +1

    You are great and right. No doubt. We should have strong knowledge in what we do. Totally agree with you Andrew.

  • @NirajPradhan
    @NirajPradhan Рік тому +2

    Completely agree and I have experienced this my self when I am interviewing candidates!
    Knowledge and learnings from real experience matter the most and certification should be testimony of that.

  • @keianadukes4699
    @keianadukes4699 Рік тому +1

    No, you’re 100% right! I actually just certified, but am going back to your course and the books to apply the principles in real time. I think the principles of PMI are really good and should be known and used for managing projects! And besides why wouldn’t you want to know the best practices of managing a project to cut out risk, cost, keeping things on schedule to add the most value for your stakeholders?!

  • @kabretenidderuon5712
    @kabretenidderuon5712 7 місяців тому +1

    This is a good advice not only for PMI certification seekers but also for university diploma's striving students. How many engineers or science diploma holders that don't succeed their job interviews because they were just studying to pass the exam and haven't tried hard to understand with real life examples what they were doing in their schools or universities.

  • @court3401
    @court3401 6 місяців тому

    This is encouraging to watch because I’ve been taking my time to get through the course but it’s really because I want to learn and digest the content. I was being hard on myself for not having finished by now. People always share videos of finishing in 2 weeks and that’s just not realistic for me…especially because I truly want to digest the knowledge.

  • @abosedebozimo3214
    @abosedebozimo3214 Рік тому +3

    Andrew these are valid points you've raised. Please could you consider starting a boot camp for those who are looking to have project management hands on experience. That would help alot of people just as you've been helping people pass their exams.

  • @redam9749
    @redam9749 Рік тому

    You're absolutely right, I am not yet certified, and your comment has really made me reflect on my current situation. You know what? This video has further motivated me to pursue certification, with the condition that I have a solid understanding of the material. Thanks a lot.

  • @DulguunTumurkhuyag
    @DulguunTumurkhuyag Рік тому +2

    Well said mate. We must understand the deep underlying essence, not the characteristics.

  • @stanislavkhakimullin248
    @stanislavkhakimullin248 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you that knowing the subject and having practical experience and skills are a must. But you need PMP certification to be invited for an interview these days, so putting an effort and getting the certification asap is a good strategy to be competitive in the market. Otherwise, you are not a competitor at all.

  • @shawnkelso6422
    @shawnkelso6422 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for putting this out there sir! I've been preaching the same for a while. I'm still pretty proud of my PMP but believe it has been watered down in recent years. The more recent version of the test doesn't help...

  • @actinternationalconsulting5973

    Thank you for sharing! Great facts and speaks right to the heart of anyone who value certifications for what they are and how the knowledge can be applied in the real life practice.

  • @ChaseTheRide
    @ChaseTheRide 10 місяців тому

    I 100% agree with your statements, and is part of the reason even with 7 years of project experience I have not thought about going after my PMP until recently. Listening to your video on your channel motivated me to start your class and also focus on the betterment of quality project managers. Thanks

  • @jimd33
    @jimd33 Рік тому +1

    Valid points you have Andrew. I took the time to study and to make sure I studied longer to make sure I knew the information inside and out. I value my certifications so that I am not the so called paper cert guy.

  • @wookiedookie6899
    @wookiedookie6899 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for making this video and I admire your stand for what’s right. I just put down a down payment with a certified trainer in Malaysia and is due to start lessons in Aug. This video actually ignited my drive to learn and apply PMP skills to my daily work. Keep rocking and thanks for what you’re doing for the community.

  • @stephenraustin
    @stephenraustin Рік тому +6

    You may have drank some of your own Kool-Aid Andrew. PMP is 'heavyweight' PM and very difficult to bend to the speed of today's business without major content culling. Agile is the lightweight alternative (PMP 2.0?) and has enabled smaller companies a chance at success. No 'reasonable' company today would deploy PMI/PMP in its full bureaucratic glory. I got PMP certified to expose myself to the full academic PM body of work, the cornucopia of all inputs/outputs docs and tools available to PMs. PMI/PMP is a wealth of PM information but I would never deploy anything but a watered down version of PMP in an actual business environment, while working to transition to Agile. Cheers!

  • @immainfotech
    @immainfotech Рік тому +2

    I concur with what you say, Andrew.
    My certification exam is on November 2, 2023, and I have already begun my preparations.
    I wanted to be a competent person in my profession, not merely a certifier. I'll make every effort to learn everything I can from your courses and PMI books in order to become the best project manager possible.

  • @jaylanroute7758
    @jaylanroute7758 Рік тому +1

    This just motivated me even more for my final round interview I have this morning..gotta light a 🔥 for those who really want to gain the knowledge rather than have the pmp behind their name.

  • @dumisanimkhize3845
    @dumisanimkhize3845 Рік тому +1

    100% Agree with you Andrew, I am enrolled in 5 of your courses on Udemy and I planning to watch and learn all 5. I am awaiting my PMBOK Guide so I can align the studies with your course while doing the CAPM & PMP courses. Currently I am starting with the Essentials so I can learn the basics.

  • @arul7100
    @arul7100 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Andrew, for bringing up this topic. I was really excited about getting the PMP certification, but while doing my homework, I came across many UA-cam videos offering tips on how to obtain the PMP certification in merely just 2 weeks! To be honest, I took a step back to ponder whether this PMP certification is genuinely worth it.

    • @arul7100
      @arul7100 Рік тому

      I must say, I really like it when you called them "idiots" - lol!

  • @vincentselvaraj80
    @vincentselvaraj80 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you.
    I just started to practice for PMP. I keep your advice in mind that PMP certification is not for the stamp for getting the job. It should be an attitude of life.

  • @gopalprashad270
    @gopalprashad270 Рік тому +2

    I think the issue is far deeper, The way the candidates are shortlisted, recruitment process, interview process. What you are ranting about is the side effect of these deeper issues.

  • @leeloo2012
    @leeloo2012 Рік тому +1

    Most of PMP is for larger project and depending on the industry you work in, your projects are not that long. A big example of that is in the application process. As a localization project manager, I have had as many as 112 projects in a month. It is very rare to get projects that last over 3 weeks. As a design/creative services project manager, the projects take longer but we are still not at the level of construction projects. I know what a risk register is but I've never had to use one because normally the opportunity we are trying to jump on is so tight that we already know like 15 of the 20 risks since they are the same risks for the same tight turnaround projects that we end up just calling those risks "Tuesday" or "Thursday". Although i kind of agree with what Andrew is saying, this also brings up the question how to get experience without experience. And using the certification as a way in to get interviews is at least one step closer to being hired than not getting interviews is. With that said, I'm using his course to study for the PMP after 10 years working as a PM. Having the PMP i think will help me pivot into more PMI friendly PM roles in industries like consumer goods, healthcare, etc

  • @harshaprahlad8141
    @harshaprahlad8141 Рік тому +3

    What I have always been telling people is to get PM experience before getting a certificate. Unfortunately people have been using the PMP designation as a tool to get employed. As a hiring manager I do not value the certification unless they have the experience to go with it.

  • @jccaptainchaos
    @jccaptainchaos Рік тому

    Andrew - this is a true statement. I’d love to have a deeper conversation on this topic.

  • @prasenjeetsen7085
    @prasenjeetsen7085 8 місяців тому

    Hi Andrew, Gr8 words from gr8 GURU like you. You r absolutely right in this. People just getting certified but don't know how to apply those skills and later blame that there is no use of this Certifixatrion.❤❤❤❤

  • @mkd6417
    @mkd6417 Рік тому +6

    That's why I always quote..
    To pass PMP and To be an actual PMP are two different things...

  • @saimurali1004
    @saimurali1004 Рік тому

    A great guidance indeed. This is the first video I watched after I decided to prepare for PMP exam. Thanks a lot for the inspiration

  • @ahmedusman5624
    @ahmedusman5624 Рік тому +1

    Your points are valid. but you also need to consider that the job market is not normal these days. there are huge number of people who are jobless and trying to make both ends meet. May be these guys were in stress or they were weak in the Risk area but they are good in others. employers or interviews are crazy these days they are asking too much... secondly how about the guy doing better risk management at work ....

  • @brentbacon3698
    @brentbacon3698 Рік тому +1

    Valid points Andrew. The people that just study enough to pass the exam know who they are and would be a fool to go to a job interview with limited knowledge or experiences in PMP. They know it will be a waste of time but once again they are rolling the dice and not putting in the necessary work required to get the knowledge and job. They are simply paper tigers!

  • @mcmoreno92
    @mcmoreno92 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you 💯. Great advice. I love❤ my PMP certification and job. Shame on the people that aren't learning and putting in the work for this certification.

  • @TaniaBanathy
    @TaniaBanathy Рік тому +1

    Andrew, Thank you for speaking up. My colleagues and I are seeing the same thing.

  • @haitauba
    @haitauba Рік тому +1

    I totally agree with you. I'm preparing for the exam since last 5 months, going through many books and your videos. I got quite disappointed when someone in my office told that he cleared it within 1.5 months, and he said just understand the mindset and you'll clear the exam. That guy doesn't know the basic difference between agile and waterfall..

  • @balasubramanian8431
    @balasubramanian8431 Рік тому +3

    In other way, It is not the road ends after gaining PMP Certification, It actually paves the bigger learning process and get the bigger picture.. We need to practice the knowledge what we learnt and apply those theoretical to practical. it is like Doctor who passed out but he still practicing for better person.

  • @aadancade
    @aadancade Рік тому +2

    Thanks Andrew. You always keep it real. The point you’ve raised is exactly what kept me taking the exam even though i have studied the mind set and doing so, I have obtained general knowledge on PMP. But the truth is, I haven’t practiced nor have I worked PMP practicing firm.
    Can you put together a set of templates that allows your viewers to study and practice instead of grinding all the different books, in which you have authored amazing book loved by the thousands.

  • @christerzian9293
    @christerzian9293 Рік тому

    I passed my exam back in May using your class and materials. Yesterday, I was thinking I need to watch some of your videos and look over the material to keep it fresh in my mind. Great video and completely agree with your thoughts.

  • @sammathew606
    @sammathew606 Рік тому +1

    Man! I like how you broke down all the points. To everyone of those guys.Burned 🔥🔥

  • @WasimAkram-ep6sr
    @WasimAkram-ep6sr Рік тому

    Thank you sharing this. This will inspire a lot who thinks just getting certification will do everything

  • @onyekwerekennedy6872
    @onyekwerekennedy6872 Рік тому +1

    I have been a practicing Project Manager for close to 10 years I decided to study and get Certified to add more value and what you have said in the video is very true

  • @marapejun
    @marapejun Рік тому

    You said facts, I stopped rushing to get my PMP as I wanted to get the feel of being a proper project manager that does not stop learning.

  • @jasonderamo
    @jasonderamo Рік тому

    @AndrewRamdayal - I've worked in IT for 16+ years doing System Engineering, migrations, and automation across many platforms and technologies. Whenever it comes to applying for or moving into a Project Management role, even while doing Agile/PM-level tasks, there is this visible perception that techs and PMs are in two different camps. Without PMP certification, or at least speaking the PMI lingo, it's rare (if ever) for hiring managers to take your background as a project supervisor seriously. I've noticed the same thing in the military between Officer and Enlisted ranks. It seems that practical experience doesn't always relate to getting the job, but rather your ability to keep the job once it's maintained. Lastly, and this is a personal note: I've only seen a few times in my career where a PM was willing to humble themselves to learn the tech, for which they are directly overseeing projects. Rarely are techs acknowledged for their project efforts in terms of compensation, promotions, or salary increases relative to PMs. I think this is a concern but I'm curious to hear your thoughts from a management/hiring perspective. I am also interested in your course materials, btw.

  • @Hoody1147
    @Hoody1147 Рік тому

    So, it’s funny I came across this video, because I have been a lead/foreman working under a project manager for a long time. I agree with your colleague, because I hate the fresh kid out of class, who has very little experience. I work with him, I help him realize the real world application. I get the “man your really helpful” and then he starts pawning things off on me. Then quits in a year? For a better dollar. Then I start again with another kid fresh out of class…
    I’ve decided to become a PM because I can do it better than them. And hearing this excites me, because I don’t have my PMP yet, but when I get it. I can get to that interview, and it sounds like if I pay attention and learn the terminology. My real world process will carry me through a lot, and hopefully I can do it!

  • @jonahriderdog
    @jonahriderdog 7 місяців тому

    This was the most honest video on a human level that I have seen in a LONG time.

  • @rajanna81
    @rajanna81 Рік тому +2

    Agree totally, Andrew. I believe learning while performing the job is helping me to have better knowledge, more than the binge video watching just for the sake of exams and certifications. I initially started that way and ran through a bunch of videos but felt I did not know anything when I faced a situation in reality. Now when I encounter a situation, I acknowledge the challenge and start learning about that part. I learn something related in my free time but not in any particular order. Certification is a dream, yes. But I decided that I would first gain knowledge and, if required, get the certification. Lifelong Learning. Cheers.

  • @Pappu407
    @Pappu407 Рік тому +1

    Great Andrew. Whatever you mentioned regarding PMP certification and experience is absolutely correct. Knowledge, Experience and Certification is the need of the hour. No one can beat you, challenge you if you have those three essential requirements.

  • @teewon3977
    @teewon3977 Рік тому +1

    So true!!! It’s important to learn not just for the exam!!!

  • @suruuppili1460
    @suruuppili1460 Рік тому +1

    Yes, your messages are correct. Thank you

  • @PhillyzJamPoet
    @PhillyzJamPoet Рік тому

    Interesting 🤔 I experienced the inverse. Took the time to study and leaned into the journey of obtaining the PMP with immersive application. Ive worked in jobs and with people who aren’t certified and running projects that misapply or don’t apply proper project management methodology. I agree that neither extreme brings value to a project or company but do not feel one outweighs the other. Ultimately, there needs to be more of a balance of education and application. There are project managers with experience that don’t bother to keep up with tools and practices. i.e. waterfall vs agile. Consistent continued education is key. Period.

  • @harishpatil6259
    @harishpatil6259 Рік тому

    Thanks Andrew. This was much needed video. Its high time to come out of the mindset of just cracking the exam and posting on linkdin. Knowledge + Application is important.

  • @Bruwery
    @Bruwery Рік тому

    Really appreciated this video! Not just the case with the PMP certification, but many other certifications as well. It should be about the ability to apply the knowledge not just have the certification.

  • @4shetty
    @4shetty Рік тому

    Spot on ! PMP is a guide coming from many great minds who had shared their best practices over years from personal and professional experiences. I have been in this industry for around 20 years and believe me, the concepts of PMP has always helped to resolves things. If the PMP is not used as a major guiding factor for once organization then they might see some differences what is discussed in the ideal PMP world vs reality ! but remember this is again a perception according to that organization so to GET REAL here they are many Multi Billion organizations have and are benefitted from the concepts of the PMP and had/ has worked and brought success to the Business they are in. Hence the organization need PMP certified PM so that they can help those organization to take a lead on certain aspects and help them to achieve their goals.

  • @mattersthatmatter
    @mattersthatmatter Рік тому

    That’s a valid point . Many people just want the certification for adorning . They don’t implement or use the concepts back home. I believe that the internship starts after earning the certification. I have been using these concepts for projects in manufacturing sector especially green and brown field. It helps but is a lot more work which many don’t want to do.
    Appreciate your efforts to address this issue.

  • @RichardAllen-qj4ud
    @RichardAllen-qj4ud 6 місяців тому

    I absolutely agree! I do want my PMP certification, but I also want to be the best PM I can be.

  • @ayukbenedict7323
    @ayukbenedict7323 Рік тому +1

    A mastery of your subject matter gives you a competitive advantage over other competitors. Always thrive to be the best in your area of Expertize

  • @ahmedk1268
    @ahmedk1268 Рік тому +2

    I am a project manager for years and i passed the certification to obtain the validation of my knowledge through the PMP. If someone is not yet a project manager, he has to study a lot in order to gain knowledge and be able to apply it. It is like the driver licence, it’s not because you have it that you are a good driver it takes time and practice to become better. Study, study and study again and each day you will be closer to the best version of yourself.