Bless you. I know we dont do enough to honor your sacrifices but a lot of us feel it. Unfortunately you run into those who, "move on" all too frequently. You are appreciated but, not enough.
You are not forgotten. We should treasure you all. Blessed are the peace keeper for they shall be called the children of God. Thank you for your service.
That’s what I love about Star Wars. It takes so many real life stuff and puts them into a expansive universe that is different than our own. Corruption, crime, racism, that other word for hatred towards other species not just humans, rebellions and more. But the soldiers in Star Wars or in real life aren’t forgotten. They’re always gonna live on 💯🙏🏼🙏🏼
I just realized something about the last Kenobi episode where he met the homeless clone: Kenobi never knew what happened to the clones. He just knew they turned on him and the other Jedi. He doesn't know it was the chips, he doesn't even know the clones were basically thrown away after the order. That homeless clone was probably the first time he realized that the clones suffered just as much as the Jedi.
Omg that’s so true. I think it was in a sw rebels episode where even Kannan was nervous to be around Rex and the other clones bc he didn’t know they had chips that made them kill Jedi. He thought they did it on their own.
You're so right! That must be why Obi-Wan looks like he's in shock at seeing a clone trooper. His first thought might have been "Oh my god, is this guy going to attack me?" As you pointed out, how would Obi-Wan know any different.
The tragic fact is that ALL Clones were forced to murder there Jedi. It wasn’t like Legends were they just did it, but the fact that the Clones biologically couldn’t resist.
I'd be mad at the jedi. Generals as young as 14 getting whole squadrons killed. You know there was talk among the Clones and much distrust unless you got lucky. I would estimate only 15% of Jedi were decent Generals or commanders.
The story of the clones is one of the saddest in Star Wars history. They were bred and trained to be soldiers, but in time they became more than that. They became allies, friends even, brothers. And yet in the end, they were all simply pawns to be used in a scheme beyond their control. Their humanity was stripped away, then their leaders, then their brothers, and then their memory.
Well even from the start they were a viciously bred warrior race hardened with eugenics and child abuse for the sole purpose of winning a war against a force which simply wants to seperate from the Republic
I believe Order 66 was also a kind of "reset", wiping out most of the emotional attachments they had made prior to it. The ones who removed their chips were able to regain their " humanity" and probably left them suffering with tremendous PTSD.
It's shockingly and depressingly fascinating to think how such a event like Order 66 was such a drastic paradigm shift on the Star Wars galaxy as it was like a turning point in history as the Clones Wars had ended which bled into Galactic Civil War.
I’m not sure how it’s shocking, it’s easily the most significant event in the Disney canon, seems like we get an Order 66 scene every time a show drops. I do appreciate them fleshing out Order 66, the rise of the empire and the prequel era in general because I grew up on the prequels and the clone wars series
@@drip.season8504 I don't know why I thought to say shocking when devastating was the word i was looking for.but I suppose seeing it in the theater at nine years old was shocking at the time.
I always would have loved to see from the Separatists point of view at the moment of Order 66. Confederacy soldiers and CIS droids would've been completely confused by the sudden infighting amongst the Republic forces and why Clones and Jedi were now suddenly killing each other. It would be even more interesting if Jedi survivors actually surrendered to Separatist forces to survive the onslaught wrought on them from Order 66.
As if the Separatists will ever accept a surrender from a Jedi after all the Perfidy Obi-Wan and Anakin pulled off. Or they might, they haven't proven to be the smartest commanders in that regard.
@@battlesheep2552 Jedi and other Republic forces have surrendered to the Separatists in various battles when beaten in the past. And a Jedi Knight/Padawan would definitely surrender to B1 battle droids than face death from Clone Troopers if those were his/her options.
I believe order 66 ordered a complete shutdown on all the droids aswell as Forcing the clones to execute there jedis,there was a few clones who didn't and I believe a clone commando squad mentioned order 66 was an invalid order
It feels like seeing all this pain and suffering is what gave Sidious pleasure. It's almost like the negative influence he's created is fueling his power in the dark side of the force. He gains strength through other people's suffering.
Not really related but at the end of Jedi when Vader throws Palpatine into the reactor hole thing it almost sounds like human screams of relief. Almost like Palpatine was so sadistic he made people's souls and such bound to him.
i heard a theory that the reason palpatine made the grand army with clones instead of robots was to weaken the jedai and also yah proboblly also for fun
yea i agree, when i saw that scene in the theater i just was in utter shock that mace died how he did and that tons of jedi were being killed, it really sucked to see all the jedi that we liked, mace windu, plo koon, mundi, it really sucks that one of my favorite characters was done dirty getting killed by palpatine right off the bat in kit Fisto, but just seeing all the jedi along with the younglings it was alot to see. On top of that was the scene with bail when he tried to enter the building and the clones turned him back then him seeing a young jedi fight off some clones but then get killed right before his eyes. i was in tears and it is emotional still many years later when i watch that scene.
I saw ROTS when it came out in cinemas. To this day I can't hear the Order 66 theme without my eyes watering, and all the depictions of the event in other forms of media only deepen that wound. That finale of Bad Batch in particular broke me. I genuinely sobbed
The thing is, that homeless 501st clone was probably lucky. He was still alive and had some of his armor and helmet and lived on a climate controlled station. For other clones, they were experimented on or sold into hard labor to be used until they died.
I feel that too literally anything order 66 I end up tearing up, and the first time I had watched ROTS I couldn't stop crying for the rest of the movie, after I saw Mace die and then Plapy force the clones to do order 66, and I remember my dad right next to me also crying in the theater. The ride home was quiet then when we got home my mom asked of the jedi won and I started crying again, so my dad told her they didn't win. When she watched the movie she also cried then told me she was sorry for asking me if the jedi won lol
The Jedi Order and Clone Army were used in the game that Darth Sidious or Palpatine played, and the Galactic Empire realized that if the Clones could kill their loyal Jedi General and allies, then what is stopping them from betraying the Empire. The sad truth is that the Clone Army will be discarded by the Empire once the Clone Wars ended, and the tragedy of the Clones is that they were tools to a total monster in the form of Darth Sidious.
Dont forget to say the game that was also willingly played by the Jedi as well as Sith. The Jedi should not have led an Army. Typical Jedi hubris to think the war could not have possibly been fought without their great leadership and morals. The Order could have stepped aside any time. They chose to play the game and the entire galaxy suffered because they were too prideful to walk away.
@@BamaChad-W4CHD Yep. When confronted with an army appearing out of nowhere, they were just like "Sweet, this solves our problem of being asked to fight". Even when stranger things happened the Jedi looked the other way.
@@dakat5131 that really was a low point in that trilogy. They could have shown many worlds and senators coming together and pleading with the jedi to lead the army. Nope though. They just defacto jumped to the head of the line.
It’s really sad because the clones who fought with the Jedi throughout the clone wars they where all like family. And then just killed them all in cold blood.
@@zaidhernandez4601 in Legends cody had massive ptsd and when training stormtroopers he said he "wouldn't mind his entire platoon of stormtroopers killed for one clone" and called them a "disgrace to the once grand army the republic had to offer"
What I want to know is how long the chip influenced their lives. Let's say year down the road a clone no longer serving for the empire stumbles across a jedi that survived Order 66, either by personal recognition or viewing the force/lightsaber. Would the chip once again take over and compel them to attack, or does it have a service limit and no longer force them, making the clone feel sorrow or hatred for himself for committing an act he had no control over all those years ago.
I believe it still worked, but required the command to be issued again. I've seen a number of Star Wars videos mention how in a comic, a Jedi cornered by a group of Inquisitors and Purge Troopers managed to issue Order 66 and the Troopers attacked the Inquisitors, even killing a former Jedi Master from among them.
@@SoldierSmoke But remember, long after the order was given, Wrecker's chip activated after a head injury. So did the injury activate the order, or did it reboot the system to compel him to follow the order as if it was always nagging him to do so but couldn't make the connection until the injury, like kicking a circuit back into place.
It’s so tragic that they’re forced to execute order 66 against their will and they had to kill their maybe closest friends they had fought alongside in a war and then in the end they’re just replaced with no form of gratitude for their brave efforts (when I say no form of gratitude I’m thinking of the Daiyu scene in Kenobi) :(
To the empire, they were not much more than droids. Droids were very limited in their "sentience". When R4 got destroyed you see Kenobi react, but not much more than that. While we learn from R2D2 and C3P0 the reality that droids are worse off than slaves. No service for droids and basically handed the most dangerous jobs. And they are expendable. Yet have feelings. Understanding more than a simple robot. Clones were not treated much better at all.
The thing is, is that really even the worst fate? The guy may be homeless trash, but the planet is at least climate controlled and has room for begging. Some clones would have likely been used for experiments or sold off to be forced labor.
@@LegoStarWarsBBrix Why would the Empire have no further use for them? The empire is actively recruiting storm troopers, clone troopers are superior combatants
this is why Palpatine is the darkest Sith Lord. I am pretty sure that mass slaughter increase the dark side's hold on the galaxy and thus made Palpatine even Stronger Sith Lord
Palpatine is OP because he used the Jedi’s compassion against themselves. The Jedi were very confused because they weren’t supposed to be attached but they ultimately of course became attached. He used that obvious flaw in their ideology against them. It’s why the Jedi failed. And why those who followed the Yoda/Count Dooku/Qui-Gon line of Jedi became Gray Jedi. The only survivors of Order 66.
@@umiluv Well Jedi view attachments like how buddhist view them in the real world. that Buddhist view is that Attachment is in the west considered to be obsession. For a Jedi is naturally against obsession from a western perpective. In Canon, there is no such thing as a gray Jedi. Yoda and Qui-gon are dedicated Jedi and Count Dooku is Sith Lord(a force user dedicated to the dark side). To be a Jedi, you have to be a dedicated Light sider. To be a Sith, you have to be dedicated Dark sider. For more mortal force user, it is diffcult to be a dedicated grey side force user. Bendu and the Father are the closet Entities that are remotely consider to be Grey Force users. Where the Father's duty is to monitor the Son and Daughter, so they don't abuse their abilities that could damage the galaxy at Large. Sith want to be greater than the Son in the dark side with better self control so they can dominate the galaxy. Jedi want to be on par with the Daughter with greater self control to serve the Galaxy at large.
Obsolescence is the thing the clones faced , and as we saw in Kenobi, the level of that left some veterans as mere beggars in the Galactic Empire, which is just.. wrong at so many levels.
Pretty common fate in reality, as well. Many of us didn't come out of service much better, meanwhile our government attaches more importance to aiding foreign nations or people entering the country illegally than it does to looking out for citizens who voluntarily served in time of war.
@@RenfromBespin Totally worth the watch. But, don't watch it until you've finished TCW, because it's a follow-up to TCW. It picks up literally during Order 66, from the viewpoint of The Clones, esp. the "defective" ones.
@@RenfromBespin its absolutely worth it! Not only does it go into the aftermath of order 66, but what happens to the clones afterwards. How quickly the empire tossed them aside, and how quickly the empire closed its grip on individual liberties across the Galaxy. The weeding out of morality among its soldiers, clone and storm troopers alike I got through it in two days this last week, and it’s become one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars media ever. If you liked the clone wars series, you’ll like the Bad batch
It's interesting I've known multiple identical twins growing up and some of them have almost the same personality and some of them are opposites of each other like yin yang
I think about this a lot. I'm so curious what the individual stories of so many of the clones were. What did they do? Where did they go? So many troops just left to fend for themselves.
Genetically designed using Jango Fett as their template, the clones most likely retained his innate ability to analyze and adapt to their situation. Those who didn't were probably destroyed rather quickly, while those who did tap in to this ablility were able to find the means to not only survive, but also thrive in their new paradigm.
Honestly a game set in the Star wars universe where you play as rogue clone troopers years after order 66 as mercs in the underworld would be badass. Give them crazy customization like at 5 : 55 , a nice skill tree with classes able to use guns and gear from different clone trooper types.
@@andrewj1754 it doesn't necessarily have to revolve around the bad batch maybe another group of unknown clone mercs. But if they were to go with that. That would be cool too.
The one thing that is most tragic about The Clone Troopers was that they served the Jedi without Question while being slaves to their own will and they couldn't resist their programming. The Bad Batch didn't obey Order 66 because they were altered Clones and they still had to remove their inhibitor chips. If The Jedi Knew that every clone had inhibitor chips, they would've figured out the plan to destroy the Jedi and would force Darth Sidious to reveal himself. they didn't suspect Palpatine to be a Sith Lord except Yoda, Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Anakin. The true moral of Order 66 is that Darth Sidious considered the Clone Troopers to be nothing more than Causalities of War in the Birth of The Galactic Empire.
What would you've done if you found out a dead jedi who was stripped out of the council had made an army which he was not allowed to create had made one? Would you fight with them, not tell the republic cause they had all the power to use the army. So thats your choices. Not use or tell anyone and pray the cloners would tell anyone or let anyone else lead a army into battle which your order have made (in the eye of the public). The jedi was to close to the republic & was therefor fucked
The jedi did find out about the inhibitor chips. Probably with enough time to do something about it. They could've had Rex or some other clones tested immediately to gauge the danger, but in their hubris they ignored it.
@@callmealex69 In canon, they never learned about the chips, or at least not completely. Tup had a breakdown, possibly caused by a Separatist weapon, while Fives went completely mad and tried to assassinate the Supreme Chancellor while raving about a conspiracy. Even his friend Rex didn't really believe Fives, but filed a report on the theory despite the likelyhood of it being ignored. The Jedi would eventually learn of the Sith's involvement in the creation of the clones, but they had no idea why they would do that and didn't make the connection to the behavioral modification biochips. Heck, Obi-Wan was practically told about them when he first arrived on Kamino: "We modified their genetic structure to make them less independent than the original host. They are totally obedient, taking any order without question." Any learning of the biochips intended function came after the deed was already done.
@@callmealex69 ofc they could. But imagine being given an army and majority of the orders were very useful too keep the army intact and they didn't know how order 66 would fuck them up like the way it did. So yes Shaq'ti did rly bad with Fives and should have kept him under constant vision. Sure they could probably began removing the chips within one year in to the war if they tried. Another was that the seperatist could crush the republic if they wanted to which means Sidious would do everything to stop them from mass removing them. But ye the jedi needed to be wiped out cuz of the dogmatic believes and being ruled by the senate. They tried to be good by becoming generals which is even worse. Who would like a peacekeeper aka Greenpeace as their general in a great war? Sending out 14 year old children who dont know shit about anything, especially not warfare and tactics to lead men who was born to fight. Sure a few like anakin and obi-wan worked. But that was an exception, the generals should have been choosen among ppl who had experience. Could have brought the jedi along for other purposes, who care what they call themselfs.
@@callmealex69 they thought they did which they kinda did but not close to that level. Just that Shaq'ti was stupid af and the kaminoen who was followed under the influence of Sidious. She was just stupid there not to realise they fucked Fives(the clone who took out his chip) and literally did nothing to protect him or tell others..not even taking his story even so quite arrogant. I'm talking about Fives episode where he uncovers the plot and is driven crazy by old palps.
It’s interesting to think about how smart palpatine was in getting rid of the clones. We know for certain that some instance of order 66 could occur again should the empire use clones. We have seen it before, an inquisitor was killed by purge troopers after a Jedi mind tricked them into believing order 66 had been executed once again, and that the inquisitors were Jedi. Crazy how different the Star Wars timeline could have been if palpatine kept the clone army.
@@javiermendoza2308 it’s in the lore, can’t remember which inquisitors it was but there were 3 of them, 2 survived, one of the strongest inquisitors ever was killed by the purge troopers
Not quite. Palpatine himself triggered order 66… And the clone troopers acknowledged him as a Sith Lord. Order 66 could not be used against Palpatine himself, and apparently neither could it be used against Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader. The troopers didn’t turn on palpatine or Vader… Because Ord 66 was designed so that they wouldn’t
yeah, I've always looked at Order 66 as a tragic event just bc of the relations that had developed between the respective clones and Jedi. Not "just" that the Jedi were brutally slaughtered.
I love all stories about the Clones. While anatomically the same, they were more individual than the majority of live born beings. Made me cry to lose Fives, what happened to Echo and Republic Commandos
Wait. I thought once order 66 was issued all clones and droids gun down jedis. In some scenes in clone wars and bad batch, droids actually stopped shooting because they were confused on what was going on.
I always would have loved to see from the Separatists point of view at the moment of Order 66. Confederacy soldiers and CIS droids would've been completely confused by the sudden infighting amongst the Republic forces and why Clones and Jedi were now suddenly killing each other. It would be even more interesting if Jedi survivors actually surrendered to Separatist forces to survive the onslaught wrought on them from Order 66.
They were discarded soon after 66, due to their rapid aging. Kenobi is 15 ish years after clone wars? Which is 30 years for a clone. They took 10 years to make, so in their 20s during the war. So by Kenobi, they might only be 25-30 biologically, they're at a 50-60 yeal old person's age, not including any war injuries. Sad existence.
Idk if anyone has asked this question yet but I've always wondered, did the clones ever go back to "normal" and then realize what they have done? If so why did none of them do anything? I feel like they could have rebeled against empower Palpatine. But this is coming from a novice fan.
The ONLY ones well known to try was Rex an his two buddies in the old terrain walker they converted into a SciFi SW equivalent of a motor home. There's several others that rebelled an decided NOT to immediately kill every Jedi they came across regardless of their level. Either cuz they didn't have the chip or they strait had the will to refuse even one or 2 special cases where they LITERALLY were lost in time an wasn't around. But majority of them are unknown as to their fate
The ethical implications of cloning are huge, I feel like they had been chosen at start Just as a cool counterpart to droids, but when TCW started exploring theim deeper, it kind of opened a Pandora's box.
the long term planning of Sidious and Tyranus was to create a situation where it was so desperate the Republic would need a large army that volunteers and droids couldn't fill.
My thought on Order 66 is that palpatine wanted a cheaper army and that’s why the Empire began conscripting citizens. Eliminating the Jedi, and most of the clone army in one fell swoop, and then deactivating the droid army to make sure the age of the Republic would be truly over
in canon i'm not sure if they ever came to their senses; iirc even in the "new" continuity order 66 was still active well and good after the scenes in episode iii and the clone wars. i'm pretty sure the order continued so unless clones got their chips removed they'd kill anyone they thought was a jedi on site even years later.
The fact the clones were fully aware of what they were doing but we're powerless to stop it is horrifying. They gunned down their leaders and were forced to feel apathy as they did it while being fully aware of everything. If only they listened to fives...
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I had not thought about this situation from this perspective before. It really does make the story of the clones that much more tragic and heartbreaking
I think it would be natural for legions of clones to band together and form security firms or mercenary groups. As you say they were built for war and I think many would gravitate to that lifestyle on their own without the republic.
apart from the Bad Batch, clones lost their purpose and will to live after the Clone Wars. We only see Boba Fett, the lone unaltered clone as having something like a good military lifestyle as he had no inhibitors and no programming. Order 66 was not the only inhibitor in their programming.
I love the sound of this tragic battle and you have made think maybe the clone seen in episode two of obi wan was a saviour of one of them tragic battles knowing they left their brothers and jedi to get slaughtered.
You know that's actually a very interesting take on it I personally have never thought about the ramifications or repercussions of what they went through because of order 66 good job
the second time an entire organization was wiped out the other time being when (and i know technically it isnt cannon but i will forever consider it to be so) darth bane tricked the dark brotherhood to perform a modified version of a sith sorcery known as the mind bomb and killed all but him and his apprentice ushering in the rule of 2. keep in mind the dark brotherhood at that time was as large if not larger then the jedi order was them which was far larger then it is in modern lore.
Listening to this it's almost like listening to the story of ours lives.Sacrificed without care, then discarded once done. Our value only exists when we are needed and forgotten when our job is done.
Tbh the imperial clones were treated pretty poorly themselves as shown on ryloth there were clones that retained their personalities and yet they were still forced into a empire that casually turned the less willful clones on one another simply to maintain a uncaring emperor's rule
@@chadflanaganCFC I hope it's not true but there's rumor since crosshair had to have his chip taken out because of the bad batch that to prove he still loyal to the empire he had to kill howzer
@@tylerchapman7846 man that would suck I mean crosshair doesn't exactly seem that bad once you get his side of the story,but to kill howzer would just be a wasted opportunity as how I see him personally is if Rex made the imperial choice during order 66 and to just off a genuinely interesting character just to paint crosshair as more of a moustache twirling bad guy is just poor writing
But I do wonder What was going through the mind of the last clone to get the order? Just seeing his comrades suddenly gun down the jedi general or younglings
@@junkoenoshima6756 I was giving an example of clones getting the order long after the other clones started firing and how they reacted, which is what you were looking for? Idk how I misunderstood your comment but okay
@@AskMia411 I mean, you were giving me a suggestion to watch the bad batch. Now if your comment was like "what about how the bad batch reacted to there fellow clone brothers turn on the jedi" then I would understand. 👍
It could also be stated that Order 66 was a blessing from a certain point of view & here is why: assuming that Anakin Skywalker was the only person in the Galaxy that could have stopped the slaughter of the Jedi with or without order 66, when he slaughtered the Jedi in the temple, that was his decision to turn to the path to the Dark Side. Order 66 just expedited what Palpatine intended to do with or without the Clone Troopers. Eventually, Anakin and Palpatine would have tracked down and killed virtually all of them; Order 66 just turned it from many years to mere moments. Case in point: Palpatine had zero issue taking out the accompanying Jedi that were with Master Windu when Windu was trying to arrest then Chancellor Palpatine. There would have been little resistance outside of the few most talented Jedi in the entire Order. Also, regarding the Clone Troopers that comprised the first legions of Imperial Storm Troopers, it is likely that they were the best, judging from their accuracy during the Clone Wars in all of the movies and the television shows that followed. "Why did the Storm Troopers later on have such terrible accuracy?", you might ask? The answer may lie in one of the explanations shown in this video: after Order 66 was completed, the Clones realize what they had done, so the Clones chosen to be in the first ranks in the Empire trained the following classes of Storm Troopers that followed to be terrible shots, to help make up for their atrocities at the end of Episode III. So, from a certain point of view, Order 66 was a blessing and helped to ensure that almost all rebels were able to evacuate Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, etc.
Wow, every word of what you just said is wrong. The only reason Order 66 worked is because the great majority of the jedi was surrounded with clones they trusted and then all of them were betrayed at the same time, with thousands dying in minutes if nor seconds. Without the clones "betrayal", a few jedi would but most (and by most I mean thousands) wouldn't be caught by surprise and would have time to band together and make a plan. Without the clones and Order 66, there's no way the Jedi Order would fall and therefore The Republic
Throwing their clones away was also part of the larger plan as all the despair and negative emotions from the remaining Clones would feed the dark side.
I know alot of starwars lore but I never stopped to think of the psychological trauma the clones went through, before and after order 66 🥲 the PTSD and guilt must have been unbearable 😔 I couldn't imagine how Rex kept going 🥺
I feel that this will be brought to life in a series in it self, including Rex, etc, etc, we saw an example in the second episode of Obi One, I have a feeling that Vet is gonna tear 💩 up.
U made a very good point on clones being killed in battle because of the overwrite but I’m sure A LOT of clones stuck in the empire because of the skills and they were stoped being made and eventually died out while others left because of order 66 and sadly got left on the streets abandoned.
You know, I would have thought that the empire would "decommission" the clones after a certain period and kill them all off to make sure that they would never become an issue.
There is a fan film that suggested a dark reason for this; the chips altered the memories of the clones, causing them to remember events diferently and the Jedi as the monsters Palpatine did. Like I said, dark, but it gives a reason for their turn, and would eliminate some of that conflict, while adding a whole new one
Palpatine did is killing two birds with one stone. Killing the Jedi Order and deplete the Clones so they can be replaced faster. Lesser clones, less likely of a clone rebellion to happen.
I don't think the chips work the way you think. There is no going back to normal and questioning what they had done for the post-66 clones. Order 66 and the chip that facilitated it aren't just a one and done thing. As seen in Bad Batch (and maybe this will be further fleshed out in later seasons, as apparently Commander Cody will become a recurring character), the clones justify it as "following orders" or "the Jedi were traitors", with no further thought on the matter. It's like a hypnotic suggestion, where every time the Jedi come up, the chip kicks in and justifies the actions. Only the removal (or presumably destruction) of the chip halts that behavior and allows them to come to their senses and feel remorse for their actions, as seen with Rex and Wrecker.
Is truly hard. And it totally makes sense. It makes me remember my time in the service, as we were recognized as just a number. Expendable forgotten when our time was done. Thank you for this.
I do wonder what would have happened to the Clones & the GAR after the Clone Wars had concluded. Would they just be reformed into Senate Guards, Police Force. Would the GAR still operate on an “at ease” basis within the Galactic Republic?
All that physical and psychological trauma really took its toll. In the words of Rex: “The war left its scars on all of us.” It just really makes you wonder where you’ll go after your role in that time is over.
I can't help but wonder how the.clone in kenobi would have reacted had he known it was general Kenobi in front of him, since he wouldn't be affected by the chip ten years later
I would imagine that is Count Dooku had managed to survived past the Battle of Courasant, that many Jedi would have followed him after order 66. Even though he was doing Sidious bidding, even you realize that eventually Sidious would have no use for it now and would try to kill him.
Good facts and statements. But I still wonder. Like he say about clone being mowed down by droids by order 66, wouldn't the clones still fight the droids even if their on the order 66?
Luckily of season one of the clone wars taught me anything it’s that even when their enemies aren’t shooting back the droid suck at aiming. They make storm troopers look like good shots.
I think this video answers why Obi Wan gave credits to the clone veteran in part II. After ten years he was able to emphasize with the clones who he spent years fighting along side. Instead of the reaction Kaneen had in rebels.
I’ve always wondered what went through the minds of the clones as that order came down the pipe, as a kid I was always so surprised how quickly they enacted the order, and just got on with it. Realizing that they were literally taken over by order 66 with no free will makes it all the more terrifying. It’s sad to know that they basically died alongside the Jedi, And Kenobi series just confirms that even a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the VA benefits still aren’t adequate for a veterans needs.
As a veteran this hits hard. Because even in the Star Wars setting, after your usefulness is over you are forgotten.
As a military brat, your service is never forgotten. Your brothers remeber and those in touch with what this country stands on will not forget
I feel that. Same here.
Bless you. I know we dont do enough to honor your sacrifices but a lot of us feel it. Unfortunately you run into those who, "move on" all too frequently. You are appreciated but, not enough.
You are not forgotten. We should treasure you all. Blessed are the peace keeper for they shall be called the children of God. Thank you for your service.
That’s what I love about Star Wars. It takes so many real life stuff and puts them into a expansive universe that is different than our own. Corruption, crime, racism, that other word for hatred towards other species not just humans, rebellions and more. But the soldiers in Star Wars or in real life aren’t forgotten. They’re always gonna live on 💯🙏🏼🙏🏼
I just realized something about the last Kenobi episode where he met the homeless clone: Kenobi never knew what happened to the clones. He just knew they turned on him and the other Jedi. He doesn't know it was the chips, he doesn't even know the clones were basically thrown away after the order.
That homeless clone was probably the first time he realized that the clones suffered just as much as the Jedi.
Omg that’s so true. I think it was in a sw rebels episode where even Kannan was nervous to be around Rex and the other clones bc he didn’t know they had chips that made them kill Jedi. He thought they did it on their own.
@@lauren1211 Exactly. And Obi-Wan will probably never know exactly what happened with the chips.
If that clone would have known Kenobi was a Jedi, I wonder if he would have attacked him?
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You're so right! That must be why Obi-Wan looks like he's in shock at seeing a clone trooper. His first thought might have been "Oh my god, is this guy going to attack me?" As you pointed out, how would Obi-Wan know any different.
The tragic fact is that ALL Clones were forced to murder there Jedi. It wasn’t like Legends were they just did it, but the fact that the Clones biologically couldn’t resist.
The dark side was truly strong that moment in star wars history... All through the manipulation of the very embodiment of that part of the force...
Which makes it the WORST cop out ever.
I'd be mad at the jedi. Generals as young as 14 getting whole squadrons killed. You know there was talk among the Clones and much distrust unless you got lucky. I would estimate only 15% of Jedi were decent Generals or commanders.
@@Inebriated_Goat Yes because that's retarded to the nth degree. And is used as the most annoying plot device in Filonis stories.
this is literally what the video was talking about... idk what your point is?
The story of the clones is one of the saddest in Star Wars history. They were bred and trained to be soldiers, but in time they became more than that. They became allies, friends even, brothers. And yet in the end, they were all simply pawns to be used in a scheme beyond their control. Their humanity was stripped away, then their leaders, then their brothers, and then their memory.
Much like miltary and govt oopps george lucas did spoil that years ago
I agree
Well even from the start they were a viciously bred warrior race hardened with eugenics and child abuse for the sole purpose of winning a war against a force which simply wants to seperate from the Republic
Jesus loves you
I think being murdered by them is still worse
I believe Order 66 was also a kind of "reset", wiping out most of the emotional attachments they had made prior to it. The ones who removed their chips were able to regain their " humanity" and probably left them suffering with tremendous PTSD.
Like a great reset...
Both PTSD, and Schizophrenia
Idk, I think I’d rather be a soldier and lose my job than being a jedi getting murdered by my “friends” and “brothers” in combat.
It's shockingly and depressingly fascinating to think how such a event like Order 66 was such a drastic paradigm shift on the Star Wars galaxy as it was like a turning point in history as the Clones Wars had ended which bled into Galactic Civil War.
I’m not sure how it’s shocking, it’s easily the most significant event in the Disney canon, seems like we get an Order 66 scene every time a show drops. I do appreciate them fleshing out Order 66, the rise of the empire and the prequel era in general because I grew up on the prequels and the clone wars series
@@drip.season8504 I don't know why I thought to say shocking when devastating was the word i was looking for.but I suppose seeing it in the theater at nine years old was shocking at the time.
@@drip.season8504 he said it was shockingly fascinating, don’t be a contrarian
I always would have loved to see from the Separatists point of view at the moment of Order 66. Confederacy soldiers and CIS droids would've been completely confused by the sudden infighting amongst the Republic forces and why Clones and Jedi were now suddenly killing each other.
It would be even more interesting if Jedi survivors actually surrendered to Separatist forces to survive the onslaught wrought on them from Order 66.
As if the Separatists will ever accept a surrender from a Jedi after all the Perfidy Obi-Wan and Anakin pulled off.
Or they might, they haven't proven to be the smartest commanders in that regard.
@@battlesheep2552 Jedi and other Republic forces have surrendered to the Separatists in various battles when beaten in the past. And a Jedi Knight/Padawan would definitely surrender to B1 battle droids than face death from Clone Troopers if those were his/her options.
@@battlesheep2552 And this is why false surrenders are war crimes.
Some jedi did surrender to seperstist fighters (comics) but the empire came looking for them
I believe order 66 ordered a complete shutdown on all the droids aswell as Forcing the clones to execute there jedis,there was a few clones who didn't and I believe a clone commando squad mentioned order 66 was an invalid order
It feels like seeing all this pain and suffering is what gave Sidious pleasure. It's almost like the negative influence he's created is fueling his power in the dark side of the force. He gains strength through other people's suffering.
And it's just fun for him. It doesn't just give him strength, it was fun for him
@@carlycrays2831 "Some men just want to watch the world burn..."
-Michael Cain as Alfred from The Dark Knight.
hes like my maths teacher then
Not really related but at the end of Jedi when Vader throws Palpatine into the reactor hole thing it almost sounds like human screams of relief. Almost like Palpatine was so sadistic he made people's souls and such bound to him.
i heard a theory that the reason palpatine made the grand army with clones instead of robots was to weaken the jedai and also yah proboblly also for fun
Order 66 is one of the most popular painful scenes in All Star wars
It's probably the most replayed and revisited moment in Star wars history
TBH i watch it every night before i go to bed.
And we see it again and again, each time from a different perspective.
yea i agree, when i saw that scene in the theater i just was in utter shock that mace died how he did and that tons of jedi were being killed, it really sucked to see all the jedi that we liked, mace windu, plo koon, mundi, it really sucks that one of my favorite characters was done dirty getting killed by palpatine right off the bat in kit Fisto, but just seeing all the jedi along with the younglings it was alot to see. On top of that was the scene with bail when he tried to enter the building and the clones turned him back then him seeing a young jedi fight off some clones but then get killed right before his eyes. i was in tears and it is emotional still many years later when i watch that scene.
Long Live The DarkSide
I saw ROTS when it came out in cinemas. To this day I can't hear the Order 66 theme without my eyes watering, and all the depictions of the event in other forms of media only deepen that wound. That finale of Bad Batch in particular broke me. I genuinely sobbed
The thing is, that homeless 501st clone was probably lucky. He was still alive and had some of his armor and helmet and lived on a climate controlled station. For other clones, they were experimented on or sold into hard labor to be used until they died.
Me to hits hard every time I watch it
I feel that too literally anything order 66 I end up tearing up, and the first time I had watched ROTS I couldn't stop crying for the rest of the movie, after I saw Mace die and then Plapy force the clones to do order 66, and I remember my dad right next to me also crying in the theater. The ride home was quiet then when we got home my mom asked of the jedi won and I started crying again, so my dad told her they didn't win. When she watched the movie she also cried then told me she was sorry for asking me if the jedi won lol
The Jedi Order and Clone Army were used in the game that Darth Sidious or Palpatine played, and the Galactic Empire realized that if the Clones could kill their loyal Jedi General and allies, then what is stopping them from betraying the Empire. The sad truth is that the Clone Army will be discarded by the Empire once the Clone Wars ended, and the tragedy of the Clones is that they were tools to a total monster in the form of Darth Sidious.
Dont forget to say the game that was also willingly played by the Jedi as well as Sith. The Jedi should not have led an Army. Typical Jedi hubris to think the war could not have possibly been fought without their great leadership and morals. The Order could have stepped aside any time. They chose to play the game and the entire galaxy suffered because they were too prideful to walk away.
"The Jedi code is like an itch..."
@@BamaChad-W4CHD Yep. When confronted with an army appearing out of nowhere, they were just like "Sweet, this solves our problem of being asked to fight". Even when stranger things happened the Jedi looked the other way.
@@dakat5131 yep. Talk about typical Jedi hubris right there
@@dakat5131 that really was a low point in that trilogy. They could have shown many worlds and senators coming together and pleading with the jedi to lead the army. Nope though. They just defacto jumped to the head of the line.
It’s really sad because the clones who fought with the Jedi throughout the clone wars they where all like family. And then just killed them all in cold blood.
They probably even felt it deep down too in their nightmares
@@zaidhernandez4601 in Legends cody had massive ptsd and when training stormtroopers he said he "wouldn't mind his entire platoon of stormtroopers killed for one clone" and called them a "disgrace to the once grand army the republic had to offer"
I’ve seen the Clone Wars series and it’s really sad when they all turn and what Rex does to help Asoka escape at the end. Such a well written show
What I want to know is how long the chip influenced their lives. Let's say year down the road a clone no longer serving for the empire stumbles across a jedi that survived Order 66, either by personal recognition or viewing the force/lightsaber. Would the chip once again take over and compel them to attack, or does it have a service limit and no longer force them, making the clone feel sorrow or hatred for himself for committing an act he had no control over all those years ago.
I believe it wore out rather shortly as seen in the bad batch
@O.P.
I loved your question. I hope S.Wave makes a video about it!
I believe it still worked, but required the command to be issued again. I've seen a number of Star Wars videos mention how in a comic, a Jedi cornered by a group of Inquisitors and Purge Troopers managed to issue Order 66 and the Troopers attacked the Inquisitors, even killing a former Jedi Master from among them.
@@SoldierSmoke But remember, long after the order was given, Wrecker's chip activated after a head injury. So did the injury activate the order, or did it reboot the system to compel him to follow the order as if it was always nagging him to do so but couldn't make the connection until the injury, like kicking a circuit back into place.
The chips still work, but the order was executed and was no longer active. Should they be ordered to again, yes they would do it.
It’s so tragic that they’re forced to execute order 66 against their will and they had to kill their maybe closest friends they had fought alongside in a war and then in the end they’re just replaced with no form of gratitude for their brave efforts (when I say no form of gratitude I’m thinking of the Daiyu scene in Kenobi) :(
To the empire, they were not much more than droids. Droids were very limited in their "sentience". When R4 got destroyed you see Kenobi react, but not much more than that. While we learn from R2D2 and C3P0 the reality that droids are worse off than slaves. No service for droids and basically handed the most dangerous jobs. And they are expendable. Yet have feelings. Understanding more than a simple robot. Clones were not treated much better at all.
Man that scene broke my heart... and warmed it when Obi-Wan gave the man some credits... but still that one struck hard...
The most tragic part is being homeless for 10 years after the war on the streets of Daiyu.
Like lots of vets irl
That was a cool look to be honest because it just shows they are washed up and casted aside as the Emperor has no further use for them
The thing is, is that really even the worst fate? The guy may be homeless trash, but the planet is at least climate controlled and has room for begging.
Some clones would have likely been used for experiments or sold off to be forced labor.
@@LegoStarWarsBBrix Why would the Empire have no further use for them? The empire is actively recruiting storm troopers, clone troopers are superior combatants
@@Matt-yg8ub They wouldn't want a repeat of Order 66, with the clones turning on the Emperor and the Empire.
this is why Palpatine is the darkest Sith Lord. I am pretty sure that mass slaughter increase the dark side's hold on the galaxy and thus made Palpatine even Stronger Sith Lord
Vitiate would make palpatine look like a meme
@@ZorcTheDarkOnex Well Vitiate is based on Palpatine archtype.
Palpatine is OP because he used the Jedi’s compassion against themselves. The Jedi were very confused because they weren’t supposed to be attached but they ultimately of course became attached. He used that obvious flaw in their ideology against them. It’s why the Jedi failed. And why those who followed the Yoda/Count Dooku/Qui-Gon line of Jedi became Gray Jedi. The only survivors of Order 66.
@@umiluv Well Jedi view attachments like how buddhist view them in the real world. that Buddhist view is that Attachment is in the west considered to be obsession. For a Jedi is naturally against obsession from a western perpective. In Canon, there is no such thing as a gray Jedi. Yoda and Qui-gon are dedicated Jedi and Count Dooku is Sith Lord(a force user dedicated to the dark side). To be a Jedi, you have to be a dedicated Light sider. To be a Sith, you have to be dedicated Dark sider. For more mortal force user, it is diffcult to be a dedicated grey side force user. Bendu and the Father are the closet Entities that are remotely consider to be Grey Force users. Where the Father's duty is to monitor the Son and Daughter, so they don't abuse their abilities that could damage the galaxy at Large. Sith want to be greater than the Son in the dark side with better self control so they can dominate the galaxy. Jedi want to be on par with the Daughter with greater self control to serve the Galaxy at large.
Obsolescence is the thing the clones faced , and as we saw in Kenobi, the level of that left some veterans as mere beggars in the Galactic Empire, which is just.. wrong at so many levels.
Pretty common fate in reality, as well. Many of us didn't come out of service much better, meanwhile our government attaches more importance to aiding foreign nations or people entering the country illegally than it does to looking out for citizens who voluntarily served in time of war.
Commander Cody suffered a fate worse than death afterwards... He ended up becoming one of the phase zero dark troopers.
The clones were pawns in a game in which they had no control over or say in, which is tragic in and of itself
I want to see some of this examined, in The Bad Batch, Andor, and The Mandalorian Saga. We're already getting nods to it in Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Same, I hope we see more of this across multiple series.
I think what we're gonna get in TBB is seeing that the clones were quickly demoted and some of them were probably sold into slavery.
Is Bad Batch worth the watch?? I’m about to start an entire watch of TCW
@@RenfromBespin Totally worth the watch. But, don't watch it until you've finished TCW, because it's a follow-up to TCW. It picks up literally during Order 66, from the viewpoint of The Clones, esp. the "defective" ones.
@@RenfromBespin its absolutely worth it! Not only does it go into the aftermath of order 66, but what happens to the clones afterwards. How quickly the empire tossed them aside, and how quickly the empire closed its grip on individual liberties across the Galaxy. The weeding out of morality among its soldiers, clone and storm troopers alike
I got through it in two days this last week, and it’s become one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars media ever. If you liked the clone wars series, you’ll like the Bad batch
It was surprising and sad to see a Clone Trooper beg for credits like a homeless man in Episode 2
I just love how we continue to get more pieces to the puzzle that was operation Knightfall
It's interesting I've known multiple identical twins growing up and some of them have almost the same personality and some of them are opposites of each other like yin yang
The only silver lining would be that a few Clones did find their way to the Rebel Alliance to continue fighting for Freedom for the Galaxy.
I think about this a lot. I'm so curious what the individual stories of so many of the clones were. What did they do? Where did they go? So many troops just left to fend for themselves.
Atleast they had a chance to live, unlike all their friends who were jedi that they murdered
Genetically designed using Jango Fett as their template, the clones most likely retained his innate ability to analyze and adapt to their situation. Those who didn't were probably destroyed rather quickly, while those who did tap in to this ablility were able to find the means to not only survive, but also thrive in their new paradigm.
Honestly a game set in the Star wars universe where you play as rogue clone troopers years after order 66 as mercs in the underworld would be badass. Give them crazy customization like at 5 : 55 , a nice skill tree with classes able to use guns and gear from different clone trooper types.
So a Bad Batch game?
@@andrewj1754 God Yes
@@andrewj1754 it doesn't necessarily have to revolve around the bad batch maybe another group of unknown clone mercs. But if they were to go with that. That would be cool too.
Republic Commando 2? Or perhaps Imperial Commando?
@@FoAmY99 I haven't played commando but I've seen it? If it's anything like what I stated I'd love to play it
The one thing that is most tragic about The Clone Troopers was that they served the Jedi without Question while being slaves to their own will and they couldn't resist their programming. The Bad Batch didn't obey Order 66 because they were altered Clones and they still had to remove their inhibitor chips. If The Jedi Knew that every clone had inhibitor chips, they would've figured out the plan to destroy the Jedi and would force Darth Sidious to reveal himself. they didn't suspect Palpatine to be a Sith Lord except Yoda, Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Anakin. The true moral of Order 66 is that Darth Sidious considered the Clone Troopers to be nothing more than Causalities of War in the Birth of The Galactic Empire.
What would you've done if you found out a dead jedi who was stripped out of the council had made an army which he was not allowed to create had made one? Would you fight with them, not tell the republic cause they had all the power to use the army. So thats your choices. Not use or tell anyone and pray the cloners would tell anyone or let anyone else lead a army into battle which your order have made (in the eye of the public).
The jedi was to close to the republic & was therefor fucked
The jedi did find out about the inhibitor chips. Probably with enough time to do something about it. They could've had Rex or some other clones tested immediately to gauge the danger, but in their hubris they ignored it.
@@callmealex69 In canon, they never learned about the chips, or at least not completely. Tup had a breakdown, possibly caused by a Separatist weapon, while Fives went completely mad and tried to assassinate the Supreme Chancellor while raving about a conspiracy. Even his friend Rex didn't really believe Fives, but filed a report on the theory despite the likelyhood of it being ignored. The Jedi would eventually learn of the Sith's involvement in the creation of the clones, but they had no idea why they would do that and didn't make the connection to the behavioral modification biochips. Heck, Obi-Wan was practically told about them when he first arrived on Kamino: "We modified their genetic structure to make them less independent than the original host. They are totally obedient, taking any order without question."
Any learning of the biochips intended function came after the deed was already done.
@@callmealex69 ofc they could. But imagine being given an army and majority of the orders were very useful too keep the army intact and they didn't know how order 66 would fuck them up like the way it did. So yes Shaq'ti did rly bad with Fives and should have kept him under constant vision. Sure they could probably began removing the chips within one year in to the war if they tried. Another was that the seperatist could crush the republic if they wanted to which means Sidious would do everything to stop them from mass removing them. But ye the jedi needed to be wiped out cuz of the dogmatic believes and being ruled by the senate. They tried to be good by becoming generals which is even worse. Who would like a peacekeeper aka Greenpeace as their general in a great war? Sending out 14 year old children who dont know shit about anything, especially not warfare and tactics to lead men who was born to fight. Sure a few like anakin and obi-wan worked. But that was an exception, the generals should have been choosen among ppl who had experience. Could have brought the jedi along for other purposes, who care what they call themselfs.
@@callmealex69 they thought they did which they kinda did but not close to that level. Just that Shaq'ti was stupid af and the kaminoen who was followed under the influence of Sidious. She was just stupid there not to realise they fucked Fives(the clone who took out his chip) and literally did nothing to protect him or tell others..not even taking his story even so quite arrogant. I'm talking about Fives episode where he uncovers the plot and is driven crazy by old palps.
It’s interesting to think about how smart palpatine was in getting rid of the clones. We know for certain that some instance of order 66 could occur again should the empire use clones. We have seen it before, an inquisitor was killed by purge troopers after a Jedi mind tricked them into believing order 66 had been executed once again, and that the inquisitors were Jedi. Crazy how different the Star Wars timeline could have been if palpatine kept the clone army.
What? When? Where did you see this I need it
@@javiermendoza2308 it’s in the lore, can’t remember which inquisitors it was but there were 3 of them, 2 survived, one of the strongest inquisitors ever was killed by the purge troopers
Not quite. Palpatine himself triggered order 66… And the clone troopers acknowledged him as a Sith Lord. Order 66 could not be used against Palpatine himself, and apparently neither could it be used against Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader. The troopers didn’t turn on palpatine or Vader… Because Ord 66 was designed so that they wouldn’t
I used to watch your Star Wars Explained videos years ago. Just came back and found your channel again. Glad to see you're still kickin'!
I like how his outro sounds like the ending of such a powerful and inspirational movie with a life message for the masses
yeah, I've always looked at Order 66 as a tragic event just bc of the relations that had developed between the respective clones and Jedi. Not "just" that the Jedi were brutally slaughtered.
I would guess that most clones were used by the Empire as cannon fodder in the early years of Palpatine's reign. Until they were used up.
I love all stories about the Clones. While anatomically the same, they were more individual than the majority of live born beings.
Made me cry to lose Fives, what happened to Echo and Republic Commandos
They went from soldiers that hit targets to troopers that dont come close.
Wait. I thought once order 66 was issued all clones and droids gun down jedis. In some scenes in clone wars and bad batch, droids actually stopped shooting because they were confused on what was going on.
I always would have loved to see from the Separatists point of view at the moment of Order 66. Confederacy soldiers and CIS droids would've been completely confused by the sudden infighting amongst the Republic forces and why Clones and Jedi were now suddenly killing each other.
It would be even more interesting if Jedi survivors actually surrendered to Separatist forces to survive the onslaught wrought on them from Order 66.
We know some droid commanders did resist the shut down order. And not all of the CIS armies were droids.
They were discarded soon after 66, due to their rapid aging. Kenobi is 15 ish years after clone wars? Which is 30 years for a clone. They took 10 years to make, so in their 20s during the war.
So by Kenobi, they might only be 25-30 biologically, they're at a 50-60 yeal old person's age, not including any war injuries. Sad existence.
it literally says “10 years later” in the show
as usual, well narrated and illuminative. thank you my friend
Excellent viewpoint totally overlooked. Thx for this!
Idk if anyone has asked this question yet but I've always wondered, did the clones ever go back to "normal" and then realize what they have done? If so why did none of them do anything? I feel like they could have rebeled against empower Palpatine. But this is coming from a novice fan.
I recommend giving the Bad batch a watch. It goes into this very question. Not to mention its really good
The ONLY ones well known to try was Rex an his two buddies in the old terrain walker they converted into a SciFi SW equivalent of a motor home. There's several others that rebelled an decided NOT to immediately kill every Jedi they came across regardless of their level. Either cuz they didn't have the chip or they strait had the will to refuse even one or 2 special cases where they LITERALLY were lost in time an wasn't around. But majority of them are unknown as to their fate
@@robertagu5533 Rex removed his chip completely, but was the exception compared to their peers.
The ethical implications of cloning are huge, I feel like they had been chosen at start Just as a cool counterpart to droids, but when TCW started exploring theim deeper, it kind of opened a Pandora's box.
the long term planning of Sidious and Tyranus was to create a situation where it was so desperate the Republic would need a large army that volunteers and droids couldn't fill.
Another crazy thing is that the separatists would deal with there own betrayal not too long after watching the jedis’
Very well thought out and explained
My thought on Order 66 is that palpatine wanted a cheaper army and that’s why the Empire began conscripting citizens. Eliminating the Jedi, and most of the clone army in one fell swoop, and then deactivating the droid army to make sure the age of the Republic would be truly over
in canon i'm not sure if they ever came to their senses; iirc even in the "new" continuity order 66 was still active well and good after the scenes in episode iii and the clone wars. i'm pretty sure the order continued so unless clones got their chips removed they'd kill anyone they thought was a jedi on site even years later.
The fact the clones were fully aware of what they were doing but we're powerless to stop it is horrifying.
They gunned down their leaders and were forced to feel apathy as they did it while being fully aware of everything.
If only they listened to fives...
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I had not thought about this situation from this perspective before. It really does make the story of the clones that much more tragic and heartbreaking
I think it would be natural for legions of clones to band together and form security firms or mercenary groups. As you say they were built for war and I think many would gravitate to that lifestyle on their own without the republic.
apart from the Bad Batch, clones lost their purpose and will to live after the Clone Wars. We only see Boba Fett, the lone unaltered clone as having something like a good military lifestyle as he had no inhibitors and no programming. Order 66 was not the only inhibitor in their programming.
@@SantomPh and he was also raised normally and not accelerated.
"What I remember about the fall of the Jedi, is how quiet it was"
I love the sound of this tragic battle and you have made think maybe the clone seen in episode two of obi wan was a saviour of one of them tragic battles knowing they left their brothers and jedi to get slaughtered.
At least it’s not order 69
It happened off screen for the most part. That’s the most tragic part
You know that's actually a very interesting take on it I personally have never thought about the ramifications or repercussions of what they went through because of order 66 good job
the second time an entire organization was wiped out the other time being when (and i know technically it isnt cannon but i will forever consider it to be so) darth bane tricked the dark brotherhood to perform a modified version of a sith sorcery known as the mind bomb and killed all but him and his apprentice ushering in the rule of 2. keep in mind the dark brotherhood at that time was as large if not larger then the jedi order was them which was far larger then it is in modern lore.
It is likely that the Clone troops also suffered PTSD like IRL soldiers tend to
this is how democracy dies with thunder supplies
Shi Mai: W-We were promised A reward. A handsome reward.
Darth Vader: I am your reward, Don't you find me handsome ?
Excellent video with outstanding insights!
Listening to this it's almost like listening to the story of ours lives.Sacrificed without care, then discarded once done. Our value only exists when we are needed and forgotten when our job is done.
didn't think order 66 could have been any worse. boy was i wrong
Tbh the imperial clones were treated pretty poorly themselves as shown on ryloth there were clones that retained their personalities and yet they were still forced into a empire that casually turned the less willful clones on one another simply to maintain a uncaring emperor's rule
I just finished watching the bad batch and I hope we see howzer in season 2
Howzer better have at least a cameo in season 2 if not an entire story arc he's too interesting a character to leave on the cutting floor
@@chadflanaganCFC I hope it's not true but there's rumor since crosshair had to have his chip taken out because of the bad batch that to prove he still loyal to the empire he had to kill howzer
@@tylerchapman7846 man that would suck I mean crosshair doesn't exactly seem that bad once you get his side of the story,but to kill howzer would just be a wasted opportunity as how I see him personally is if Rex made the imperial choice during order 66 and to just off a genuinely interesting character just to paint crosshair as more of a moustache twirling bad guy is just poor writing
@@chadflanaganCFC yep
A fantastic video explanation!!
Bro your channel is just awesome. Like, just awesome bro.
But I do wonder
What was going through the mind of the last clone to get the order? Just seeing his comrades suddenly gun down the jedi general or younglings
Watch the Bad batch!
@@AskMia411 you fail to know the true meaning of what I have said.
But do fear for I will refuse to elaborate 😁
@@junkoenoshima6756 I was giving an example of clones getting the order long after the other clones started firing and how they reacted, which is what you were looking for? Idk how I misunderstood your comment but okay
@@AskMia411 I mean, you were giving me a suggestion to watch the bad batch.
Now if your comment was like "what about how the bad batch reacted to there fellow clone brothers turn on the jedi" then I would understand. 👍
It could also be stated that Order 66 was a blessing from a certain point of view & here is why: assuming that Anakin Skywalker was the only person in the Galaxy that could have stopped the slaughter of the Jedi with or without order 66, when he slaughtered the Jedi in the temple, that was his decision to turn to the path to the Dark Side. Order 66 just expedited what Palpatine intended to do with or without the Clone Troopers. Eventually, Anakin and Palpatine would have tracked down and killed virtually all of them; Order 66 just turned it from many years to mere moments. Case in point: Palpatine had zero issue taking out the accompanying Jedi that were with Master Windu when Windu was trying to arrest then Chancellor Palpatine. There would have been little resistance outside of the few most talented Jedi in the entire Order. Also, regarding the Clone Troopers that comprised the first legions of Imperial Storm Troopers, it is likely that they were the best, judging from their accuracy during the Clone Wars in all of the movies and the television shows that followed. "Why did the Storm Troopers later on have such terrible accuracy?", you might ask? The answer may lie in one of the explanations shown in this video: after Order 66 was completed, the Clones realize what they had done, so the Clones chosen to be in the first ranks in the Empire trained the following classes of Storm Troopers that followed to be terrible shots, to help make up for their atrocities at the end of Episode III. So, from a certain point of view, Order 66 was a blessing and helped to ensure that almost all rebels were able to evacuate Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, etc.
Wow, every word of what you just said is wrong. The only reason Order 66 worked is because the great majority of the jedi was surrounded with clones they trusted and then all of them were betrayed at the same time, with thousands dying in minutes if nor seconds. Without the clones "betrayal", a few jedi would but most (and by most I mean thousands) wouldn't be caught by surprise and would have time to band together and make a plan. Without the clones and Order 66, there's no way the Jedi Order would fall and therefore The Republic
Throwing their clones away was also part of the larger plan as all the despair and negative emotions from the remaining Clones would feed the dark side.
I know alot of starwars lore but I never stopped to think of the psychological trauma the clones went through, before and after order 66 🥲 the PTSD and guilt must have been unbearable 😔 I couldn't imagine how Rex kept going 🥺
This means all of Ki-Adi-Mundi's squad would've died aswell :( they were right in the middle of battle when order 66 happened
Him and Windu deaths were low key satisfying tho can’t lie
I feel that this will be brought to life in a series in it self, including Rex, etc, etc, we saw an example in the second episode of Obi One, I have a feeling that Vet is gonna tear 💩 up.
Bad Batch delves into this a bit and looks to get it going next season
Playing as Cal in Fallen Order and experiencing what a kid witnessed during that time is very dramatic.
U made a very good point on clones being killed in battle because of the overwrite but I’m sure A LOT of clones stuck in the empire because of the skills and they were stoped being made and eventually died out while others left because of order 66 and sadly got left on the streets abandoned.
OK seriously though this is off-topic but what music does he use in the background
Yes. :) Music track reveal. :P :)
You know, I would have thought that the empire would "decommission" the clones after a certain period and kill them all off to make sure that they would never become an issue.
Only shows Sidiouses true colors even more, letting millions of lives go to waste because he no longer needs them, just like Maul
There is a fan film that suggested a dark reason for this; the chips altered the memories of the clones, causing them to remember events diferently and the Jedi as the monsters Palpatine did.
Like I said, dark, but it gives a reason for their turn, and would eliminate some of that conflict, while adding a whole new one
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
what about the clones that got away and started there own life's before order 66
Palpatine did is killing two birds with one stone.
Killing the Jedi Order and deplete the Clones so they can be replaced faster.
Lesser clones, less likely of a clone rebellion to happen.
I don't think the chips work the way you think. There is no going back to normal and questioning what they had done for the post-66 clones. Order 66 and the chip that facilitated it aren't just a one and done thing. As seen in Bad Batch (and maybe this will be further fleshed out in later seasons, as apparently Commander Cody will become a recurring character), the clones justify it as "following orders" or "the Jedi were traitors", with no further thought on the matter. It's like a hypnotic suggestion, where every time the Jedi come up, the chip kicks in and justifies the actions. Only the removal (or presumably destruction) of the chip halts that behavior and allows them to come to their senses and feel remorse for their actions, as seen with Rex and Wrecker.
Is truly hard. And it totally makes sense. It makes me remember my time in the service, as we were recognized as just a number. Expendable forgotten when our time was done. Thank you for this.
Nice one, I'd never thought of the consequences of one side of a battle suddenly entirely swapping focus
Remember, “To a clone, loyalty is everything.” Just another thing to make this even more painful
Amazing video keep up the amazing work. God bless you all ❤️🙏
I do wonder what would have happened to the Clones & the GAR after the Clone Wars had concluded. Would they just be reformed into Senate Guards, Police Force. Would the GAR still operate on an “at ease” basis within the Galactic Republic?
I thinkni still prefer how it was before Disney made it chips but its definitely heartbreaking
All that physical and psychological trauma really took its toll. In the words of Rex: “The war left its scars on all of us.” It just really makes you wonder where you’ll go after your role in that time is over.
I can't help but wonder how the.clone in kenobi would have reacted had he known it was general Kenobi in front of him, since he wouldn't be affected by the chip ten years later
1:03 I like how the wolf pack trooper had an unloaded m249 saw
Awesome Vid
So this is a great, very deep video. But I got so distracted when I noticed the clone with the jet pack at 1:04 was carrying a SAW.
I would imagine that is Count Dooku had managed to survived past the Battle of Courasant, that many Jedi would have followed him after order 66. Even though he was doing Sidious bidding, even you realize that eventually Sidious would have no use for it now and would try to kill him.
Good facts and statements. But I still wonder. Like he say about clone being mowed down by droids by order 66, wouldn't the clones still fight the droids even if their on the order 66?
This is amazing.
Luckily of season one of the clone wars taught me anything it’s that even when their enemies aren’t shooting back the droid suck at aiming. They make storm troopers look like good shots.
I think this video answers why Obi Wan gave credits to the clone veteran in part II. After ten years he was able to emphasize with the clones who he spent years fighting along side. Instead of the reaction Kaneen had in rebels.
Good point
I’ve always wondered what went through the minds of the clones as that order came down the pipe, as a kid I was always so surprised how quickly they enacted the order, and just got on with it.
Realizing that they were literally taken over by order 66 with no free will makes it all the more terrifying. It’s sad to know that they basically died alongside the Jedi,
And Kenobi series just confirms that even a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the VA benefits still aren’t adequate for a veterans needs.
Why would the clones ever be "set free?" They were made like robots.
The order 66 that touched me was the one in Fallen Order where you see how close Cal and the clones were and their interactions with each other
Seeing the clone in Obi Wan begging for money hit different