What can DNA tell us about the truth of the Bible? With Dr. Robert Carter - Podcast Episode 204
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- With what we now know about DNA, can we trust that the biblical creation account is true? Could all of humanity have really come from two people? Where did the various races and ethnicities come from? What were the Neanderthals? A conversation with Dr. Robert Carter of Creation Ministries International.
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Thanks so much for having Dr Carter on your channel. He is a national treasure.
Keep sharing Truth 🙌💯
Scripture calls us nations, not races.
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One people group = the HUMAN RACE created by GOD 💯
@@estarr86 Please do tell me what other species are within mankind.
Your mother created you, not your imaginary friend.
@@frosted1030 Where did your father get his Y chromosome or your mother her double XX's? Evolutionists don't have observable, repeatable, testable and falsifiable data to prove their speculations of XY and XX.
If you do, I'm willing to look at any data you have that isn't "imaginary".
@@frosted1030
"Your mother created you, not your imaginary friend."
What imaginary friend? What's your evidence that He's imaginary?
@@oldtimerlee8820 "Where did your father get his Y chromosome or your mother her double XX's? Evolutionists don't have observable, repeatable, testable and falsifiable data to prove their speculations of XY and XX." How does his matter, at all? You have a mother, your parents made you.
Well done and reasonable and well in line with what is written in the Bible as well as with known facts.
All human beings have the same color skin which is " Brown ".
It's the substance melanin ( so protect us from the sun ) in the skin that gives us our brown skin. Some times very very light brown ( which people MISS call white ) or a very dark brown ( which people MISS call black ).
Since Adam and Eve was under the sun ( and naked ! ) they were properly on the darker side of brown. It wasn't until they left the Garden (and clouds formed on the Earth ) and they traveled North and so did not need the protection from the sun's rays. Which then cause the melanin to lessen the brownish complexion.
Question, When God changed everyones Language, could it be possible He also changed their physical attributes as well?
No basis for such a claim.
There is no obvious reason for God to change the physical along with changing the language. Changing the language fully accomplishes the result of scattering the people across the earth. If He had changed physical attributes at that time (which is not beyond His power), we would have been told so.
there's always one who tries to keep racism alive. you have to be justified somehow, dont you?
It’s not funny, but it’s funny how many law-abiding, God-fearing christians will meet Jesus and be denied entrance. And it won’t be for a lack of knowledge. It’ll be for loving their society more than God and other people.
God doesn’t play favorites, but we think we can. And for the most stupidest reasons.
@@black-cross Sounds like you have had some bad experiences. May the Lord show you how He intends it for good (Genesis 50:20).
That’s so interesting he thought they were 15, I’ve always assumed Cain and Able were in their 30s or at least Cain was. Cain spoke of a wife, made a city and whatnot, that sounded adult-like to me. But ultimately the question I always wonder is why do we assume Cain and Able were the first two children? But it’s not worth arguing over so I rarely ask it 😂
Noah's three sons and their wives started from Adam and Eve, so we all started from Adam and Eve.
Neanderthals were nephilim. Not all were giants,but they were all mutants.
The Bible clearly answers that at Genesis 3:20: “After this Adam named his wife Eve, because she was to become the mother of EVERYONE LIVING.” And sin came to all of mankind because of them. (Romans 5:12)
@@estarr86
"God created them male and female before ... Adam and eve."
No, the male and female He created _were_ Adam and Eve.
@@estarr86
"check your Bible again."
I've checked it many times. My comment stands.
@@estarr86 A lot of people tell stories with flashbacks. I do not see any problem with interpreting Genesis 2 as setting up and retelling the 6th day in more detail.
@@estarr86 Check out Matthew 9:32-34 and compare with Matthew 12:22-24. Matthew was not afraid of interupting his story to explain a few other things, and giving a few more details when he came back to the story. That is only one example.
Adam and Eve were the first Primates, no language, no nerves to control speech
Skin color isnt in the Bible because it doesn't matter in God's eyes, and why it shouldn't matter to our eyes our hearts, we are all special in Gods eyes, as we are his children!
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Thanks for this! A thought I have had. Could it be possible the Neanderthals are the descendants of Cain? God placed a make on him. Could that mark be the forehead of the Neanderthals?
I don’t think there’s any evidence biblically that the mark of Cain applied to anyone except Cain himself. It’s only in fairly recent history that people started interpreting the “mark of Cain” as something genetic that was inherited by his descendants.
Simple answer: No. All the descendants of Adam and Eve, which means all the descendants of Cain, were wiped out in the flood, except for Noah and his family. And of course Noah was descended from Adam and Eve's third-named son, Seth.
However, I guess you could speculate about who the wives were descended from. Was Mrs. Noah, or one or more of her son's wives, descended from Cain? It's possible. But if you want to go down that path, you're proposing the the Neanderthals were descendants of Cain _and_ Seth.
But actually, there's another important factor to consider. Cain wasn't born with that mark. God put it on him. Why would we assume that God caused a change in Cain's DNA so that the mark was inherited? The mark was to protect _Cain,_ not his descendants.
That would require the mark to be inheritable. There is no indication it was, nor is there any indication the children were blamed for the sins of their fathers at that time.
Thanks those are really both good points. Really enjoyed this podcast.
@@deanfry879
"That would require the mark to be inheritable."
Agreed. I made the same point myself, but YT has chosen to hide my response.
But also, unless you want to speculate that one or more of the wives on the ark were descended from Cain, then there's no basis for saying that any of Cain's descendants survived the flood. And if one _does_ speculate that, you'd have to say that the Neanderthals were the descendants of Cain _and_ Seth.
Sto lieing Repeant what you did to Hebrew
MUTATION BY SONS OF GOD. NEPHILLINS
Yeah so from what I took from the race theory spoken here, my family tree, all being white, sometime in the future, one of our off-spring could be black, brown, or some other colour? I think not.
Remember that with each generation, it takes 2 pairs of DNA to complete a human being. Each son or daughter should be marrying someone who is not a close relative. Thus, quite likely that in the future someone can be born with a darker shade of skin color.
BTW, have you seen pictures of twins with stark differences in their skin color? One very light while his/her twin sibling is very dark.
@@estarr86 You can see quite a few examples, and information on why you're seeing them, if you search using these keywords - twins with different skin color.
@@estarr86
"I've only seen one example of twins having different skin colors"
I've not seen any, and *oldtimerlee8820* didn't claim that there were any. Rather, he was referring to twins where their (same) skin colour was remarkably different in each case. That is, one had _more_ of the brown colouring agent melanin than the other, which had less of it. Same colour, but different shades of that colour. And I'm sure I've seen (pictures of) more than one such case.
"...only one set that looks like they could be different races,"
He ( *oldtimerlee8820* )didn't mention anything about different races. That wasn't part of his claim.
You are assuming none of your descendants will marry a non-white person.
Dr. Carter is awesome! I have learned so much from him and his work defending Biblical creation.
Thanks for sharing!
The out of Africa belief assumes the consequence. The belief is that we evolved from apes and that had to be Africa so they root the tree in Africans instead of Eurasians which are the actual most original human genome which is the genome most closely related to Neanderthals, not Africans. There is only one known connection between Africans and the rest of the world. In the paternal Y chromosome haplogroup, it is the CF SNP that connects only the C paternal Y chromosome descendants with the rest of the world. The assumption is that the CF SNP was gained instead of being lost to the younger brothers and cousins of Nimrod since they are the odd ones out from the rest of the world. The same is true for the IJK SNP marker that connects the Semitic people with Eurasians. Instead of being a marker that is gained by Arphaxad that he shared with his uncle Japheth, the IJK SNP marker was lost to the younger brothers of Arphaxad. We already know who all of the ancient civilizations descended from. Every ancient civilization is the descendants of the sixteen grandsons of Noah. There are no other ancient civilizations. Denisovans are a mix of Eurasians (K-T) and the descendants of Nimrod with the C paternal haplogroup and the descendants of Sin of the Sinite or Sino Canaanite tribe having the D paternal haplogroup. Aboriginals are descended from Nimrod (C) and Tubal (K). The people of Papua New Guinea have the M and S paternal haplogroup both derived from the K.
Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD. Therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD.” The beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, *Accad,* and Calneh, in the land of Shinar (East Mesopotamia). From that land he went into Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth-Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city.
On forms I have to fill out, on the question of what RACE are you.
I always put down as an answer " HUMAN " .
Sorry, but mutations only takes away from DNA info, not add to it. That's why macro biological evolution doesn't work.
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@@rashmisonwani2311 What is Tyq ?
Wrong! 1/64 of mutations creates new info. Only 10% had genes affected and they went extinct. But only creationist believe that only the bad genes survive and healthy genes went extinct
1/64 of all mutations adds new information. What is macro evolution? I ask for one example that normal people call evolution, but creationist call macro evolution. If there is no such thing then why use that word?
Macro is when one kind changes into another kind (lizard to bird)
Micro is when features of a kind changes, but never changes into another kind (the peaks of finches).
Technically, the population of the world today came from Noah's family.
World wide population growth has fairly recently dropped below 2%. At that rate, we could have today's population in about 1200 years. There are a lot of things that can happen, but it seems like, "Where are all the people" is a legitimate question evolutionists must answer.
Thankyou, I've been sharing bible is reliable and this interview is another witness. Testimony: I never believed in evolution from childhood on. But i was not raised knowing God or church, yet came to believe in Jesus as an adult still origins was not spoken of while ppl sowed doubt in the bible. Then i read the bible front to back in twice, 2021 & 2022. Again 2023 i re-read Job chapters 38-42.5 where God Speaks and Finally started searching out biblical science everywhere and found 9yr old cornerstone programs which kicked off truth.
Thankyou again
What a great video!
Didn’t King David have reddish hair?
His skin was ruddy, red-ish
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The genetic diversity we see today is due to more than just 2 people being created in the beginning.
What a great interview!
One question I’ve tried asking through the questions service on the app/website is about paternal DNA haplogroups. It’s confusing how, according to the current understanding of DNA and archaeology, the Israelites, Canaanites, and Iranians all largely belong to Haplogroup J, even though each of them originated from, a different son of Noah. I was sent an article that explained how it’s really hard to tell these things that far back, even a few hundred years ago. If anyone has any physical insight on this, please let me know. God bless.
Following thread for answer
The key is in two facts:
1. They’re “largely” haplogroup J today, but all of those groups contain a mixture of multiple haplogroups.
2. The Bible describes Israel as regularly mixing with surrounding peoples. You have stories of non- Israelite men joining in with Israel (see the list of David’s mighty men for a few examples. Or you have the fact that Caleb the son of Jephunneh, the hero of early Israel appears to be described as a descendant of a non-Israelite man, but was counted as a member of Judah and receives land along with them due to his great devotion to the Lord - see Joshua 14-15 for this reference) and of Israelite men taking foreign wives and melding in with surrounding populations. You’ve also got a lot of pre-Israel Semitic branches that mix in with surrounding peoples.
In any mixed group, depending on the rate of male descendants of one haplogroup subset in comparison to the other portions of the population, you could easily have a haplogroup that was originally only a tiny portion of the population end up becoming the dominant haplogroup present a few hundred or thousand years later.
Even Abraham himself immigrated out of the Mesopotamia area and there were likely a lot of other descendants of Shem who remained in that vicinity or migrated to Canaan but didn’t remain separate and assimilated into the populations of Iran and Canaan.
One thought I have is this area of the world is near where Noah ark came to rest. It would not be that hard to see that those who remained rather close would intermingle some, while the peoples who traveled farther would have less intermingling. This is besides the accounts of Israel living in different areas and later being scattered all over.
@@AdamNisbett and I read an article that explained that the meats and the Persians were two different people groups, with one group or other coming from the elites, who were Semitic, and the meds coming from Jeff. And both biblically and historically, the Persians did end up surpassing and supplanting the meds, so maybe their genetics took over.
Your fables do not, even once, mention DNA. You are stretching the fable to fit the facts.. rather hilarious.
What fables? And why should they necessarily mention it?
And are you suggesting that there's something wrong with fitting the facts?
@@PJRayment "What fables? And why should they necessarily mention it?" The video discusses "What can DNA tell us about the truth of the Bible?" which is clearly nothing.
"And are you suggesting that there's something wrong with fitting the facts?" When you have only logical fallacies, no predictive model, you are offering random conjecture about fables written before toilet paper was invented. Your assertion is somehow the fables are related to facts, when they don't pass even a basic bullshit test.
@@frosted1030
"The video discusses "What can DNA tell us about the truth of the Bible?" which is clearly nothing."
How does that answer either of my first two questions. And why is it "clearly nothing"? Because you say so? This geneticist says otherwise.
"When you have only logical fallacies, no predictive model,..."
What's your evidence for those claims? You've giving me nothing but bald assertions, and not answering the questions.
"...about fables written before toilet paper was invented."
Again, _what_ fables? The only person who has mentioned fables here is you.
"Your assertion is somehow the fables are related to facts,..."
How would I be asserting that "the" fables are related to facts, when you haven't said what fables you're talking about?
@@PJRayment "How does that answer either of my first two questions." Directly.
"And why is it "clearly nothing"? " Cite a specific passage in your fables that mentions the chemistry in detail.
"What's your evidence for those claims?" Waiting, no model.
"How would I be asserting that "the" fables are related to facts, when you haven't said what fables you're talking about?" You ask a lot of remedial questions, go and learn some comprehension skills then come back.
@@frosted1030
"Directly."
No, not directly. You're talking about some fables, and the video is talking about the Bible. Two different things.
"Cite a specific passage in your fables that mentions the chemistry in detail."
AGAIN, *what fables?* I don't follow fables.
"Waiting, no model."
Repeating your claim is not providing evidence for it. It would seem that you have no evidence.
"You ask a lot of remedial questions,..."
Remedial? "giving or intended as a remedy or cure." Huh?
"...go and learn some comprehension skills then come back."
I would comprehend things better if you'd explain your incoherent claims.