Pack Fight - Ethology of Shepherd Dogs 02. гончих борьба - sürü kavga
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- RUS - Овчарка Этология - 02. - гончих борьба
TUR - Çoban Köpek Etoloji - 02. - sürü kavga
HU - Pásztorkutya Etológia - 02. - Falkaharc - Magyar feliratért kattints a lejátszó felirat gombjára CC (jobbra alul). Ha nem a magyar jelenik meg a fogaskerék gombra kattintva átállítható magyarra.
RO - Etologia Câinilor Ciobănești - 02. - Lupta de haita - Pentru subtitlu roman click pe butonul CC al playerului (dreapta jos). Dacă nu cel roman apare, se poate schimba făcând click pe butonul de lângă CC (icon de angrenaj).
EN - Livestock Guardian Dogs Ethology - 02. - Pack Fight
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Vulgar comments will be removed! Please make your critics short and with "clean mouth", then you can deserve an answer. And before - if is the case - you formulate your pride prejudices of an amateur, you should ask before.
The alternative would be distracting subtitles or a strong accent English - This kind of narration is quite pleasant o my ears.. There are far more mechanical out there.
evilstricker ### - Mute the video simple minded man. Just a click.
Cl4rendon - Thank you.
fathead - Real working LGDs are far not that cooperative that other type of dogs. What for an average dog is basic, for an LGD is not and back. LGDs are working most of the time without human control. This is the nature of their job. But do not expect me to explain for you here this kind of work, about you have no clue.
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now i understand why the owners of the sheep didnt care that the dogs where biting him to shit, they dont want to send the wrong message by breaking up the fight, if they did the dogs might not fight off a wolf or some other predator next time they see one.
yup
You are sharing an invaluable knowledge! Thank you for taking the time to record and explain this for us. A big hello from Neuquen, Argentina!
Thank you, and you are welcome!
hard to watch, but fascinating! flock guardians doing what they are meant to do! yellow dog learns a life lesson.
Super everything ! A very important lesson for this dog without experience of life in the pack , nature !
I loved this pack! Please continue to film and make more of these i really love it. Keep up the good work sir. Thumbs up
Thank you sir! I will.
thank you for bringing this story to us and yes very important this dog learns where his boundaries are thank you for bringing this story to it look forward to seeing more
+Lizzy Hodges You are welcome!
Glad they didn't tear him up
Amazing video`s thx for putting this video, cant wait to see the Video "Learning to Kill, Anyway can you tell me what breed youre neighbours dogs are?
Thank you! Are some Hungarian Kuvasz mixes.
They tore dat ass up lol he was so damn scared his pupils said it all lol
thank you for this very interesting video!
+nessuno qualcuno You are wellcome!
pobre kangal, pero se defendio bien, mis respetos xdxd
That is why I have two white dogs ( kuvasz). They protect me not savagely bite without reason 😄. Educative video tnx
You are welcome!
Did your pack accept the new dog once you went to save him? My youngest dog was challenging the older one and they had a few small fights that I broke up, but he kept challenging the older dog so I let them fight to establish rank, but stopped it before older dog could seriously hurt or kill the younger one I stopped the fight and now they seem fine, but I am sure there will be another fight before the younger dog becomes a complete adult.
+Chris Dealny This is not going so simply and quick. Generally takes more months to consider a new dog full member of the pack. But this depends in a big amount also from the social abilities of the new dog. Should be very serious differences - in this too - among dogs.
Yes, is not easy to decide when to intervene in a rank fight inside a pack. I can not give you advice without knowing your dogs.
kinomad Thanks anyway. They both have different skills , they are more pets than working dogs. They do not work well together, one likes to bark because he is NZ sheep huntaway. Other is quiet and is great for hunting with good smell.
Both are great guard dogs and get on well with livestock. I have 2 cats and both dogs know the cats rank above them in the pack.
Awesome video, hope 03 will be released soon !
+Owen Chan Thank you! I am just working on it.
+Owen Chan Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
Very Good Video,informative !
I subscribed and keep making these interesting stories .
+The Tape Thank you! I will try my best.
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I subscribed and shared your videos on Facebook. When will you be making more videos to show the pack interactions and the immigration if this dog into your pack. I'm so interested in this.
+Martin Johnson Thank you for subscribing and sharing!
Ole yellow low key a savage honestly
I like your GSD.
+KAZUYADOG Thank you!
I bet it is sometimes difficult to let nature take its course. I understand if you don't you would only be debilitating the dog in the long run, sometimes the right thing to do is the most difficult.
LUV IT!!! I WANNA SEE MORE AND RANK FIGHTS AND I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANNA SEE A PACK FIGHT PLEASE!!!!! ^^
@GREY ALPHA It is almost impossible to catch a a spontaneous and yet serious pack fight. To organizing one is ...
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kinomad whats the breed of the alpha male?
Just curious, will you still be releasing that video Learning to Kill when you release the Dark Side of Shepherd Dog Life, or did you and it got removed?
Also, sorry I comment so much, I just love your program and think you have incredible dogs. Do you have any extensive video by chance of your pack once the Yellow male was fully initiated?
I did not yet. Recently I am terrible busy. And because of the danger that they will remove those planned videos I am not motivated enough to spend my time to do them.
@@seang14 Thank you for commenting. No problem at all. Is good to know that someone outhere is interested in what I am doing. I have an other video about of "initiation" of the Yellow dog but also I am afraid: they will remove if I upload. - Their fight series become more and more cruel, till I decided to stop, and I gave the yellow dog as a gift to someone. So he newer was "fully initiated". It would happen too bloody even for me.
@@kinomad1 Understood. As a working dog enthusiast I would love to see those videos if there was another platform you use or if you would be willing to email them or something like that. Thank you for the reply!
@@seang14 Yes. I am thinking to start using an other platform. Patreon.com for example. Till then you can find contact with me at my website: turknomad.ro
It's a shame we didn't get to see how the dog escaped the rival pack. Can you tell us what happened?
Watch please the video more attentively! The grey dog and his sister fought the white pack off.
Hope you got other videos.I like them
+Unikkatil TheBloodyAlboz Yes, I am just working on it. Thank you!
+Unikkatil TheBloodyAlboz Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
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Are there two packs or one ? You said that your pack chased the white pack away but I only see everyone attacking just him.
+Dario P First the white pack attacked the yellow dog. This You can see in video. But after a time I went to save the yellow dog with my two dogs (those you can see after the yellow dog gets up from the ground.) But the chasing of the white pack by my dogs failed to be recorded.
Interesting! ☺
+metocco Thank you!
+Sabljozubi Tigar Thank you!
+kinomad why didnt you help your dog
+Mohsen Jamshidian But I did it. Watch again, and listen again please!
Post a part 3 I really enjoyed the other 2
+Anthony Mercado Thank you! Here you have: ua-cam.com/video/_Xbw5CXxb7E/v-deo.html
Have a good time! :)
We humain beings are exactly like dogs. Dogs can be great sometimes, or they can seem appalling when they behave like this, just like humans do, but in maybe more concealed ways, concealed by "civilisation", "law" or whatever. But we are not better nor worse than other animals, which in itself is not that bad, hey it's nature.
Hva i helvete er vitsen med dette....grrr
A pásztornak a reakciója mindent elárul. :D
+k marc Mire gondol? :)
+kinomad 1:03
Egyébként remek ötlet volt elkezdeni ezt a sorozatot. Az előadás miatt pedig kár szabadkozni, eredeti, emberközeli volt, mindenki számára érthetően mutatta be ennek a mély és sokrétű témának a szépségét.
+k marc Köszönöm szépen! De tudja, egy igazi pásztorkutyásnak semmi sem elég jó. Még a sajátja sem.
+kinomad Vészesen múlik a november, mikor jön az új rész?
+k marc :D Valóban. De dolgozom velük. Bizonyos oknál fogva párhuzamosan kell csinálnom több videót. De remélem megéri várakozni. Ami késik nem múlik. Ezúttal. :)
This all benefits the breed in the long term because the best fighters are made studs to produce better quality offspring to protect the sheep. The bloodlines have to preserve quality or else the predators will dominate them.
when will you be releasing the new video? cant wait to watch it. :-D
+Nino Nestor N. Melchor :) I hope this month. I am very busy, but I try.
+kinomad thanks alot
+Nino Nestor N. Melchor Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
İyi kurtulmuş hayvan
What do you think abaut hungarian kuvasz, and the program called "kuvaszok és nagyragadozók" (kuvasz and great predators)? Could it give us valuable lessons abaut LGD-s? Thank you!
+József Cseh In my opinion the kuvasz, like the komondor, is in big trouble.
1. The population is too small, so the inbreeding is inevitable. Who knows some genetics knows what means this.
2. The standard is not good. Is written by people who do not know real functional anatomy and the real work of LGDs.
3. Even this small population is bred in 3 ways:
a) Show breeding, which is the main street of breeding. And is the end of working dogs.
b) The some kind of white Hungarian version of German shepherd dog type breeding, which is the end of Livestock Guardian Dog.
c) The efforts like the program called "kuvaszok és nagyragadozók" (kuvasz and great predators), which in my opinion are the single way to save the original Livestock Guardian Dog, what was, and should be the kuvasz.
But there are problems with the 3. way breeding too:
a) They have to confront with the followers of the first two way breeding.
b) How I know just in this year two very important member was leaving the program (kuvasz and great predators). They were very few, and now they working further separate. These days are working 3 little groups in this "back to the roots" spirit. I know their leaders personally but for now seems impossible the unit their forces.
c) They are still at the very beginning in their way to the excellent, top level Livestock Guardian Dogs.
+kinomad Thank you for the correct and honest answer!
+József Cseh You are welcome!
O my gosh
Sivas kangal I loove
What country was this filmed in?
Transylvania, Romania (for now ;)
Okay one more question is there a large difference between caucasian shepherds and central aisan shepherds?
+34straw I am sorry, but it is impossible to give a short and good answer. What is large or small should be very relative, subjective. For me what is significant is that the Caucasian is mainly a mountain type LGD, and the Central Asian is more a steppe type. The caucasians have more accentuated guarding abilities, the CAOs usually are better fighters. But the thing is much more complicated. People out there do not know that the Livestock Guardian Dogs make the most sophisticated dog type among all type of dogs in the world. It is a mainly hidden subculture, an extremely rich one.
+kinomad okay no thank you very much this is a great answer because in the near future I wish to own a caucasian sheperd but I wanted to make sure there was a difference between the two breeds like enough to be able to tell if they are pure bred or not. also how much does your average caucasian shepherd grow in height and weight?
+kinomad also would tobet dogs fall under the central asian shepherd category? sorry for all the questions haha its just we don't have many of these dogs in the United States so I want to learn as much as I can about them because these dogs are so extraordinary!
+34straw In my opinion a good working aboriginal caucasian male is around 72-73 cm (max 75 cm) in height and 55 kg (max 60 kg) in weight, in good conditions. For show or just guarding bred caucasians should be much bigger, but these are unusable in real and original environment.
+34straw Yes, the Tobet dog is the name of a part of aboriginal Kazakh LGDs. Kazakhstan is a part of so called Central Asia region so should be considered a type of Central Asian LGD.
(However Central Asia like a name is an artificial name given by occidental people for this region, which is bigger than Europe!!! Also Central Asian Shepherd Dog is an artificial name given by Russian people. In the Central Asia region living people do not name their LGDs as Central Asian Shepherd Dog, just like the Serbians do not name their LGDs (the sarplaninac) European Shepherd Dog. Every nation has its own aboriginal LGD breed with its own historical name: Turkmenistan have Alabai, Kazakhs have Tobet, Afghans have Koochi, Turks have Kangal, Georgians have Nagazzi, and so on. "Central Asian Shepherd Dog" is an artificial name, this "breed" is artificial, the "pure breed" thing is a myth. How I said before: the thing is immensely complicated. And I am sorry that I can not teach you here that I have learned in 20 years. )
Why don’t the people help him and stop the fight
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sa descurcat bine cainele maro cu atatia peste el...ce rasa este ?
could have helped his dog earlier before he nearly got killed.. the thing is.. HE is the packleader himself.. and he let the dog run into his demise and only helped him after along period of time..
+HupfDole87 It was far from killing. The time is relative.
kinomad
the dog was on the ground on his back and there were alot of dogs above him who were trained to kill anything that could harm the flock. that "time is relative" thing is a strange comment.. dunno what you wanna convey with that..
+HupfDole87 :D The problem is that you try to argue about something you do not know. A dog who "nearly got killed" can not go home on his legs. The relativity of time concerns to your claim to help this dog earlier. Cause the dog was able to go home on his legs, and did not needed any veterinarian intervention shows that the timing was good, and he was far from death. And an LGD is not that type of dog that you can pull on strings from an 500 meter distance. If he wants to go somewhere, he will go. This is the way he learns, and believe me: with 20 years of experience I am good in timing and risk evaluating.
are the grey and the yellow dog Kuruc's sons ?
+nessuno qualcuno Yes. But from two different mothers. (I wonder you know Kuruc! :) )
+kinomad i don't know him personally, but i listen speak about him. i know someone that he has one of his son.... and also some other dogs that we see on your video. :)
Я вижу, что вы хотели бы видеть, как слабый потерять?
Что за порода кто знает?
Só vi o pastor marrom claro, no meio da briga.
When will you be realising the new video?
+fieldsboy22177 I hope this month. I am very busy, but I try.
+kinomad thank you I just really enjoying this series
You are welcome!
+fieldsboy22177 Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
+kinomad yes it was a great video I commented on it also I belive you replied
Mikor lesz már 3 rész?
+Zsolt báder Decemberben.
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Saldiriyorlarmi Birbirine yoksa oynuyolarmi
But that's not good u did with Yellow. Dog. U guys are soo rude
Even a mountain lion couldn't do anything against that many dogs.
+keithlamontbraggs Actually You are wrong! :) Check back later for my next video. I will show what happens when a really tough dog goes among them. ;)
Can u plz do more videos
+Augi A.H.I I am working on it, but it takes time. Good to know that some people are curious. :)
+kinomad ok thx for telling me I really like your videos and I am looking forward to see more . Keep it up 👍
+Augi A.H.I Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
Ya l saw it and I loved it waiting for I to do more .
you can put more videos?
+alex sto Yes. I hope I can put in every month 2 new videos on this channel.
+kinomad a like to see all your pack ,i have a dog pack to by 6 dogs, 4 female and 2 male my alpha is a female because the male is to young but i hope he become a alphe veri soon he have just 8 mounth here is a lot of pack with sheep dog wint twenty dogs in each of them
and i must be veri careful with them because one pach is food with meat and the dogs is much wolfs not dogs
+alex sto You will see if you check back later this channel. Where are you living?
+alex sto Yes, dogs in packs - especially LGDs - behave much more like wolfs, than fluffy pet dogs in cities.
Doggy style
LMAO!!!
+rowejam072000 Its a beautiful thing to watch animals and their natural instincts.
+rowejam072000 What does mean LMAO?
+rowejam072000 Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
Oldalt az nem a breki
why you dont fucking w8 for help him!? dude i dont care if is my dog or not if i see this i go to help inmediatly.
i mean xD why you wait for help him?
+Daniel EL OP
Why the National Geographic cameraman does not go to help the gazelle and save it from cheetah?
1. This is about nature, not about the human soul (which in the other hand ruins the planet).
2. The main purpose is to make the film and show some real life for big city people.
3. Watch again and listen more carefully the narration please! This is the way the yellow dog learns fast and sure this lesson of vital importance.
this is a stupid experience because in the natural way never this will happened ! creazy scientific
+ecm mce Why not? Look this: ua-cam.com/video/BXCvLzDNWz0/v-deo.html
I hate dogs, they are simply better looking hyenas.
Cats are worst tho especially the ones with the dumb irresponsible owners who set them lose on their neighbors lands
so not one person is going to go anything gust record it
+Beanerbomb81 Vanessa1 Wrong. First happened some recording, then some rescuing. Everything in its time.
What sort of human just films this and does nothing
+escortmk112 A hu(n)man who has gone trough on even more painful and dangerous situations. And he does. Watch again, and pay more attention. No pain no gain.
ayırsanıza kavgalarını hayvandan betersiniz
Good job torturing your 3.5 years/city yard raised dog, by putting him in that situation..
+Harap Alb Torturing means something deliberated, systematic, and takes some time. Here was not the case. It was a painful 80 second learning process. There is no other way to teach this to a dog. (Or tell you, if it is.) If you want to learn swimming you have to get wet.
+ kinomad Go ahead and learn how to swim in a pool full of sharks.. I hope you're not trying to teach your child that cars are dangerous, by throwing him in the middle of the highway.. You were reckless and you know it.
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I got a pitbull that would rip up anyone of those dogs
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There's nothing poor about this video. This is nature. He learned valuable lessons here. And ultimately, the pack that already tolerated him, came to his defense/rescue. This dog has a way better life than most family dogs. You cannot keep real LG breeds in a suburban area, or as a family dog
+DolleHengst I agree with all of your words! Thank you!
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I hope you have some more videos. They are really informative and interesting!
+roastingpotato Thank you! Yes I am just editing one, and I hope so that I can upload more in the future.
+kinomad Excellent! Im really looking forward to it! And thank YOU for uploading these videos!
+roastingpotato You are welcome!
+roastingpotato Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
+kinomad Oh I did,and I was just about to leave you a comment over there about it! It's beautiful. The countryside and wilderness of your country continues to amaze me as it always does. The pups are sturdy and powerful. It was nice seeing them interact with the older pack members and also the dog's interactions with the sheep. Also nice seeing them out on one of their first outings,and learning the ropes.
Liked Ur way of teaching ❤️
Excellent documentation in your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you, and you are welcome!
i like your video...i want to watch more :D
+Ovidiu Mihai Pop Thank you! Check back later, please, for watching them.
+Ovidiu Mihai Pop Have you seen this: ua-cam.com/video/q0rtnpOQYqI/v-deo.html ??
Wait I thought that dog was a German shepherd the one which came in some clips 😅
Nem art ha egyszer-ketszer megverik igy sok tapasztalatot gyüjt Az én kutyaim már nem is harapnak nyakra
awesome!
+Nico777t Thank you!
Covardia quero ver um contra um,,,
Very, very interesting!! Thanks for sharing your experience.
+Razvan MIHAIU Thank you, and you are welcome!
But one thing about Yellow dog he is soo brave and black one really son of bitch
Yazıklar olsun neden yardım etmediniz bir köpeğe altı köpek saldırıyor.Utanmadan birde kamerayla çekmişsiniz.Çünkü ÂLLÂH KORKUSU OLMAYANLAR BÖYLE İNSANLAR ÂLLÂH'DAN KORMAZ KULUNDAN UTANMAZ .KINIYORUM
We're are you .looking at the dogs and what I can see in the background of your videos possibly Eastern Europe ? Good looking dogs . Have a similar looking female dog I am looking after for a friend as they are waiting to move out of their flat to a place in the country side so the dog is staying here on the mountain with mine . No problems with her as she is a bitch and not up for fighting with my dominant dog .best wishes
Where was his pack? Didn't they back him up?
Hello, this is a very instructive and interesting video. Why don't you make more videos like this? The others are good and instructive, but the video about the yellow dog is really interesting and I learned a lot about dog behavior. Please make a video about your pack so we can see how they look. today. Greetings.
I like your information.. can't even wait to watch your every video
The old gray dog, the best of them, is a Romanian Carpathian Sheperd.
Romanian sheperds, the best LGD in Europe.
No it is not. It is a Caucasian, sarplaninac and CAO mix.
All these lessons for dogs are actually quite applicable to any group of people that operate together, a company or a sports team
This is very educational and Interesting please make more videos like this and Thank you.
Tell me why this is funny Asf with no volume but he was getting his put on to the pack
2:18 Is that a german shepherd?
and why put the dog in with a pack that would attack him pathetic reported to police and youtube
It was not put. It was his decision to enter among them. This way learned he not to do in the future. I know that pussy and ignorant persons are reporting my videos regularly. That is the game.
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Ty for showing this
You are welcome.
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Medium dog pack ?Wat do u want more with 30 dogs?
I meant medium in strength. A real strong pack would almost kill in this time.
Your knowledge and understanding of dogs is amazing
I want me a Grey Dog now LOL!! He's a very smart dog
Is it the white dog is Great pyrenness?