+dan altamirano No, all the crowd cheering was because of a Melee match being played next to Smash 4 on the main stage. They wouldn't be chanting "4 stock" in a game that plays with 2 and they wouldn't be cheering during the part of a set that isn't hype.
m2k had always a hitbox out. properly spaced even spectating I didn't see lots of openings Larry could capitalize on... m2k knew the matchup properly. i was rooting for Larry though.
These commentators don't seem very comfortable. One of them just cuts himself off in the middle of sentences a lot, and the other just seems disinterested.
"it's also...broken", lmao i hope commentators don't become this, i have high hopes for D1, and Commy, but everyone else (EE for example) tend to spout bullshit...
well ZeRo did just lose to M2K last week ( ZeRo still won the tournament and even JV3'd M2K in grands but M2K can still def beat ZeRo especially since ZeRo isn't playing that great this tourny )
not really he got in the 200s in terms of playing in CEO and SSC. When he is on point he is top 20 but when he is focusing on melee he is mediocre at best also there are to many players that could be top 20
He forfeited SSC but seeing how bad he played wouldn't have been surprised if he lost straight after at CEO he did loses to Brawlman1000 and someone else
the game is more mental then it is technical it doesn't matter how many wavedashes or perfect pivots you can do, its about how many times you can read your opponent
ok so this video definitely proves me that I can't stand cloud. "Oh look I have power, range, disjoints, frame data, I can camp, a projectile and I'm fast ! And see, everyone likes me because they all played FFVII but I'm obnoxious as hell !" If you're a cloud main, don't try to say that "he has flaws" because clearly, his recovery is the only downside. And it's not even THAT bad.
Yhea this video proved that to you....because obviously everyone plays like m2k amiright? M2k got soooo carried by cloud ...pls sakurai give cloud a butter knife!
fox i dont know but i think is the only character that can combo smash attacks. Front smash 2 times and up smash or up tilt, in low percent and follow it with up airs. and havn't seen anyone doing it
He is a dlc character, not as many people would buy him if he wasn't good so they made him good in order to get more money from dlc sales. That's just good marketing.
PapapumPapapumPapaPompapum I hate people like you. Those who go out of their way to go on a video and shit on a game that’s “not Melee” You know Melee isn’t perfect either. At least for the other games, there were complete characters and no serious glitches.
word of advice to the commentators. You guys had some good content, but sometimes talked too much. like, yall would say super obvious stuff that didn't need to be said. Ex: "air dodge to avoid that down smash." ...we know that, no need to say it. Finally, more hype because yall brought NONE. We are stock was taken, yall had no reaction. Yall made nothing seem important. Remember: Hype it up, say informative material, avoid unneeded fluff like naming moves as they come out.
Seeing M2K with his reads and near perfect spacing is really daunting
any time I feel remotely good about my Cloud, M2K is always there to remind me I'm trash
+TheMansterTruck Same here.
+TheMansterTruck Same
Couldn't read that fist-bump though. XD
But seriously, great player.
XD
Wow, M2K 3-0's Larry in this game. That's crazy.
dude, what's with the spoilers
@@인더빌딩 you were 2 years late and looking at the comments rofl
Mew2King's cloud has really come along. Great to see such solid play.
"Moving so nicely around each other"
Literally just rolling
Mew2king in smash 4 is the number 1 most underrated player
You can really see a lot of similarities in M2k's Cloud and his Marth in Melee.
Cloud is broken, but so is M2K so it barley matters.
Does anyone know what Melee match was playing during the beginning of this match? Crowd was chanting "4 stock"
Because m2k was playing... probably.
+dan altamirano No, all the crowd cheering was because of a Melee match being played next to Smash 4 on the main stage. They wouldn't be chanting "4 stock" in a game that plays with 2 and they wouldn't be cheering during the part of a set that isn't hype.
axe vs lucky
+Ethan Shaw thx
The king is back
m2k had always a hitbox out. properly spaced even spectating I didn't see lots of openings Larry could capitalize on... m2k knew the matchup properly. i was rooting for Larry though.
This MU is so hard because fox really shines in his ability to punish landings and cloud just can land for free.
The King is back, baby!
wow these are up so fast im impressed.
Why does my dude sound like a calmer ee
These commentators don't seem very comfortable. One of them just cuts himself off in the middle of sentences a lot, and the other just seems disinterested.
they wanted larry to win lol
"it's also...broken", lmao i hope commentators don't become this, i have high hopes for D1, and Commy, but everyone else (EE for example) tend to spout bullshit...
the king will rule again
Zero is probably thanking m2k after this
well ZeRo did just lose to M2K last week ( ZeRo still won the tournament and even JV3'd M2K in grands but M2K can still def beat ZeRo especially since ZeRo isn't playing that great this tourny )
Didn't ZeRo 2-0 Larry time? And m2k has beat zero a couple of times
9:21 Jason plz
dats all we came to see :D
Seeing one of the commentators say Clouds side B is broken makes me feel less lonely about that opinion now
It's the best punish move in the game, without a doubt. Makes Warios waft look like a development mistake lol
I'd say that title goes to true Shoryuken. If you just so happen to make the slightest mistake, your ass dies at 50%.
I do hate how limit side-b has no lag on it. I mean, come on. There should at least be a tiny bit.
*****
Yes!!
***** Yes?
I think the idea behind the no lag is that u are supposed to punish the whiff while cloud swings rather than after, but I still wholeheartedly agree
Does jab upsmash with fox work in this game?
i remember jab-jab usmash worked but not anymore
+Ayepikachu ahh I see, thanks
it's not true, but you can catch your opponents off guard
+Ian Smart does it kill?
+I-D-0 high percents?
Why does M2K constantly down air?
Because Fox can chain Uairs and M2K doesnt want Fox to get an Uair. An Uair might kill cloud at Early percent if Fox gets high enough.
And its a good tool for Cloud. :3
OlsonXP Thanks, I assumed it'd be predictable if he constantly used that move. Makes sense then if he's using it to limit his options.
Yea. I main Fox myself and ive faced a lot of Clouds at Tournaments. They do Dair a lot.
Jord Mostly everything Cloud has is ridiculous
Mew2king definitely top 20 best players of smash 4 :) my favorite and that 3-0 though
Spoilers
Even before this there was no question he's top 20
not really he got in the 200s in terms of playing in CEO and SSC. When he is on point he is top 20 but when he is focusing on melee he is mediocre at best also there are to many players that could be top 20
he's probably top 5 right now lol
+Illuminati Confirmed he forfeited both
He forfeited SSC but seeing how bad he played wouldn't have been surprised if he lost straight after at CEO he did loses to Brawlman1000 and someone else
Larry makes smash 4 fox look so easy to control
and yet ive never heard of you playing at top level.. xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
+Joshy Zamael He is talking lagless movement. And no, it isn't easy.
+Antuan Nguyen huh?
its not that hard lol. I mean it takes practice, but everything in a competitive game takes practice.
Controlling him isn't the hard part. Guess you don't have a clue what goes into higher level smash 4.
M2K doesn't even practice this as much as Melee compared to Larry Lurr who plays the shit out of this Smash.
m2k doesn't even practice smash 4 he plays Melee everyday lol he said it in his post tournament interview
the game is more mental then it is technical it doesn't matter how many wavedashes or perfect pivots you can do, its about how many times you can read your opponent
Honestly m2k is on the rise right now
8:02
that dair is such a scary option
Is shine good in smash 4?
Not as good as melee. You can't jump out of shine in smash 4
It's smal and even slower to cancel then brawl
It's a great reflector, but it doesn't do much else.
m2k finally gets his revenge from g5 of their set at goml, lol
ok so this video definitely proves me that I can't stand cloud. "Oh look I have power, range, disjoints, frame data, I can camp, a projectile and I'm fast ! And see, everyone likes me because they all played FFVII but I'm obnoxious as hell !" If you're a cloud main, don't try to say that "he has flaws" because clearly, his recovery is the only downside. And it's not even THAT bad.
and yet this nigga has yet to win a major.
Zero exploited the recovery at endgame so hard he jv3d m2k ...
+Jaden Lanx He won CEO
So anti's mario is irrelevant now k
Yhea this video proved that to you....because obviously everyone plays like m2k amiright? M2k got soooo carried by cloud ...pls sakurai give cloud a butter knife!
Mew2king is awesome as cloud
fox i dont know but i think is the only character that can combo smash attacks. Front smash 2 times and up smash or up tilt, in low percent and follow it with up airs. and havn't seen anyone doing it
it only took an uber high tier broken character to get MTK back into smash4, go figures :/
He is a dlc character, not as many people would buy him if he wasn't good so they made him good in order to get more money from dlc sales. That's just good marketing.
Because Roy and Lucas are top tiers too amirite?
+mrishouldstudy not saying top tier. never said that, they are all at least viable though.
Best fox huh? 👌🏻😹
M2k so good
this is ironic. m2k fighting fox. and not using fox
Larry really was not on point at this tournament
Scrub carried cloud
@2:20 "his movement is so great"
what? you need movement in tr4sh?
PapapumPapapumPapaPompapuapplying movement is harder in s4 than melee imo. Wavedashing and dash dancing is a lot more intuitive
PapapumPapapumPapaPompapum I hate people like you. Those who go out of their way to go on a video and shit on a game that’s “not Melee” You know Melee isn’t perfect either. At least for the other games, there were complete characters and no serious glitches.
all those who say cloud isn't broken come fight me as cloud I'll show u my network I'd is zorgborg 12
That was disappointing.
First. I'm so original. Oh, and like my comment. Look at how original I am...
AIIIIICE VULPIX
No, no, no please stop commentating on how players should be playing its literally the most cancerous type of commentary
word of advice to the commentators. You guys had some good content, but sometimes talked too much. like, yall would say super obvious stuff that didn't need to be said. Ex: "air dodge to avoid that down smash." ...we know that, no need to say it. Finally, more hype because yall brought NONE. We are stock was taken, yall had no reaction. Yall made nothing seem important.
Remember: Hype it up, say informative material, avoid unneeded fluff like naming moves as they come out.
*when a stock was taken.