Why is this 90s home keyboard still so valuable?

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  • @Hainbach
    @Hainbach  8 місяців тому +54

    Sold! 260EUR Will go to the Red Cross. Probably the only time I dropped the price on an instrument :-).
    Support my work on patreon.com/hainbach

    • @borisgans
      @borisgans 8 місяців тому +3

      Das deutsche Rote Kreuz hat sich aber nicht so gut bewährt in den letzten Jahren, sehr zwielichtig. Wie wäre es mit einer Kita oder einem Kindergarten in Berlin, etwas für die Region ;)

    • @Whistler-007
      @Whistler-007 8 місяців тому +1

      Where is the link to the Minister's viral youtube?

    • @ConwayBob
      @ConwayBob 8 місяців тому

      Nice price! If I didn't already have too many 90s keyboards I might be tempted.

    • @romanjungblut
      @romanjungblut 8 місяців тому +1

      Rote Kreuz wirklich seltsame Wahl… Historisch wie auch aktuell betrachtet.

    • @imadeitupinmyheadakaimiuim3617
      @imadeitupinmyheadakaimiuim3617 8 місяців тому

      Great

  • @alexgrunde6682
    @alexgrunde6682 8 місяців тому +155

    Definitely a case of the lore and history of the device being much more fascinating than the device itself.

    • @matthiaswilhelm9813
      @matthiaswilhelm9813 8 місяців тому +1

      🐈😂😭wow,Hainbach hat es wieder aufgerissen wie ein Westpaket!
      Da habe ich einen besseren Tipp.Hainbach muss ein Kawai Mini PHt50 holen.Da wird er super mit besten Stolen
      Samples bedient.Meine Zugpferde sind E-mus E4X er mit Zip und Rom Libraries😮

    • @TheDungeonDive
      @TheDungeonDive 8 місяців тому

      You can say that again!

  • @LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
    @LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 8 місяців тому +39

    haha no way, when you were talking about this keyboard the other week i was thinking one of those weird arranger keyboards, not a literal school style one haha. amazing.

    • @LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER
      @LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER 8 місяців тому +10

      i just remembered i have one in my loft at my mums house. i gotta go see if its still there haha well good!

    • @smellymala3103
      @smellymala3103 8 місяців тому +2

      I forgot about the multi-channel recorder in the ctk series. My mom did have one of those, and one of my best friends who recently passed away programmed his entire discography on a torn up 10 channel one spray painted black. Descanse... The Shock Deformity and Amputee! 🌹

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 8 місяців тому +109

    As much as I really dislike what I feel are the more "generic" sounds - but I absolutely LOVE that you share some of other cultural uses and expectations for electronic music that are not our go-to sounds. It helps us remember we aren't the end-all and be-all of what synths should be.

    • @lsb2623
      @lsb2623 8 місяців тому +7

      I used to use a DJ-X and DJ-X IIB, and those dorky "basic" sounds are actually really good through a little overdrive, or distortion, or a gate. Just a little special sauce makes a bland 80's sounding reverb touched shaker and it gets gritty and crunchy! I never leave any sound the way it starts, it's a compulsion!

  • @cometpingpong8976
    @cometpingpong8976 8 місяців тому +41

    These are popular among Dungeon Synth artists, as many of these Yamahas were used in the works of early DS classics. That might be why you were compelled to make a DS track. Personally, with a few effects, these things make some of my favorite DS noises.

    • @PossiblyNic
      @PossiblyNic 8 місяців тому +3

      I was just thinking that one of the presets sounded very Dungeon Synth!

    • @cometpingpong8976
      @cometpingpong8976 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PossiblyNic I feel like Dungeon Synth wouldn’t be the same without the earlier albums made with the presets on these synths.

    • @leewightman8619
      @leewightman8619 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes your right I used to use one and the Yamaha DJx for dungeon synth tracks . Because u can just use the keyboard and nothing else as there's little 6 tracks

  • @SynthCatSpot
    @SynthCatSpot 8 місяців тому +13

    Let’s not forget Wesley Willis.
    The folk preset evokes the timeless anthem of rock ‘n’ roll mc Donald’s. As well as countless lessor known hits, that defined an era. The early iPod years no doubt

    • @TheIslandDivision
      @TheIslandDivision 8 місяців тому +5

      Rock over London,
      Rock on Chicago,
      YAMAHA!!
      Make waves.

    • @roycemurgatroyd7963
      @roycemurgatroyd7963 8 місяців тому +3

      That was on the technics kn5000, and also, he used a kn1000 what i have as well

    • @d33j4ybf
      @d33j4ybf 8 місяців тому

      I NEVER forget about Wesley Willis...
      "Rock over London!
      Rock on, Chicago!
      Wheaties: Breakfast Of Champions!"

  • @danktle
    @danktle 8 місяців тому +17

    Great sounds, full size keys, velocity sensitive, built in MIDI. Pretty much everything you need to get started! And *somewhat* built to last!!

    • @Ross_From_Synthetica
      @Ross_From_Synthetica 8 місяців тому +7

      💯 - I had a similar model (PSR 225) I got new for 99.00 new. I beat the crap out of it for years live (usually as a controller) and it still works perfectly. It’s a workhorse- Best 99 bucks I ever spent.

  • @Brumata
    @Brumata 8 місяців тому +32

    I have a Yamaha PSR-500m that my wife's grandmother let me have. The nostalgia factor is huge given that these were EVERYWHERE in my school music rooms. Other than that, it is delightfully cheesy with some drums that actually sound pretty great in their own way. I like resampling the drums through the PO-33 K.O. for extra smoosh and crush. 😃

    • @willdatsun
      @willdatsun 8 місяців тому +4

      you can bend the drums with the pitchbend wheel as well, i bought my psr500 new and i still have it. the midi spec is impressive. lots of tracks

    • @bricago2302
      @bricago2302 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s the keyboard I had in college. You could slow down the preset licks and learn how to play them like the old-🎉timers did on player-pianos.

  • @Toasterskirt
    @Toasterskirt 8 місяців тому +5

    A few years back I bought an old Yamaha pss-390, It has an adjustable FM-Synth section that just sounds so good, instant lo-fi vibes. Best 20 Euro ever!!

  • @floppydisk921
    @floppydisk921 8 місяців тому +86

    Its a very similar story with the roland e16 in Pakistan. I remember about 2 years ago i worked for a international festival in Oslo as a stage technician and one of the Pakistani artist used the e16 and brought the biggest crowd of the whole festival (a truly massive crowd). Arranger keyboards are still some of the only keyboards to give you different tunings which of course is super important for alot of musicians in big countries like Pakistan and India where these tunings are important

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  8 місяців тому +12

      True! That is one of the things I also see in "rare" keyboard search on eBay/classified.

    • @saftpackerl
      @saftpackerl 8 місяців тому +13

      ⁠@@MisterM950 its called the „Balkan Steuer“ - its what you pay extra for randy DX-11s and V50s because that one guy (Mica Nikolic) only used them 🙄 - kind of similar to the Hip Hop Tax you pay for old MPCs, SP1200s or S950s…

    • @Elizabeth-vh6il
      @Elizabeth-vh6il 8 місяців тому +7

      Unlike a Yamaha PSR a Casio CZ is an interesting piece of synth history though. Not many synths around that are built around phase distortion synthesis.

    • @cyberyogicowindler2448
      @cyberyogicowindler2448 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@MisterM950 I repaired a severely fire and water damaged CZ-101. I patched plenty of corroded PCB traces, and the scorched case (that hat been coated in tons of adhesive browtape - yuck!) has very crooked keys, but the electronics still works and even the LCD had survived.

  • @cueboyd8666
    @cueboyd8666 8 місяців тому +9

    The PSR 340 was my second keyboard I got for my 10th birthday in 2000, (upgrade from my psr-190 in 1998).
    Never would I thought in a billion years and multiple multi-universes I would see one the Hainbach channel haha.
    I think I sold it for for £120 (€140 euros), the fact it's worth more now for such an obscure music genre is amazing.
    I did miss the cheesey Yamaha sounds and bought a MX49 last year for nostalgia.
    The Jam in the end is super cool btw.

  • @rjgscotland
    @rjgscotland 8 місяців тому +20

    Perhaps you simply misspoke in the video, but this keyboard is from the late 90s, 1999 to be exact! My parents have a PSR540 I believe, I've been pretty used to the Yamaha sound since my first PC had a YMF724 based soundcard, so I used to also enjoy loading random MIDI files from the internet into the keyboard to see how they sounded.

    • @PhilanderingBastard
      @PhilanderingBastard 8 місяців тому +10

      The demo song from ‚Titanic‘ may also have provided a clue.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  8 місяців тому +9

      Ah thanks for picking that up - I missed that in editing

    • @ChrisRichmond
      @ChrisRichmond 8 місяців тому +1

      The PSR540 was amazing- I remember when our school got one and it was leaps above the old FM-based PSR/PSS series instruments. I then got a DJXII so really grew up with those Yamaha XG soundfonts!

  • @shadowstate552
    @shadowstate552 8 місяців тому +22

    Back in the early 2000s, local musician I knew named "No-Tech Audio" made weird industrial noise and loops with cheap Casio and Yamaha keyboards and ran them through a bunch of FX units and a sampler. Most of the time you couldn't tell what he was using it was so distorted, but he got it all to work and sound cool. Unfortunately he only did a couple live shows, sold a few CDs and then gave up the music scene.

    • @kitchenspider
      @kitchenspider 8 місяців тому +1

      I knew a man in the 90s who played everyone elses gear, and he was infamous at sears for putting the latest gear on layaway so other musicians couldnt buy them... this was to keep his edge at the local gig circuit. We called him "Layaway Steve". Unfortunately he never quit making music and is still hangin around the venues handing out flyers with clipart graphics and bumming smokes.

  • @matt497
    @matt497 8 місяців тому +2

    I have a psr-36 and have enjoyed so much making and exploiting its features that I still am finding new ways to use it

  • @DeathTrapProductions
    @DeathTrapProductions 8 місяців тому +6

    I wouldnt neccesarily call this valuable but a great example of how you can make anything sound good through the right effects. EVEN YOUR PHONE!

  • @digitaldobbie
    @digitaldobbie 8 місяців тому +19

    Yamaha had a good 90’s run, my favourite was the Yamaha DJX, what a legend!

    • @JonMurray
      @JonMurray 8 місяців тому +2

      I wanted that keyboard SO badly as a kid hahah! What an awesome bit of kit!

    • @neufena
      @neufena 8 місяців тому +3

      We had one of those in my band at the time. I keep thinking about grabbing one but they too are really expensive for what they are!

    • @digitaldobbie
      @digitaldobbie 8 місяців тому +1

      Back when I was still a rave DJ I used the DJX along with some others kit I had access to but not owned (Roland 303) to record some of my own stuff. Prior to the DJX I used a SH-101 and even a Casio SK-1. Sadly I have none of these in the studio today but however have been contemplating the DJX again for its ease of use!

    • @opitz030
      @opitz030 8 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree- my first ever bought instrument was the DJX 2 and i still have it. The best playground to explore music those days i could ask for.

    • @therealOXOC
      @therealOXOC 8 місяців тому +1

      @@neufena Got mine for 30€ with 2 missing knobs. Took only 3 years to find it for that price :) I love it. It's so much fun.

  • @therealOXOC
    @therealOXOC 8 місяців тому +12

    DJX is where it's at. Still a lot of fun even without pedals.

  • @juandiegosucaalonzo
    @juandiegosucaalonzo 4 місяці тому +2

    I have known a lot of pianos that are somewhat similar, but in my Peruvian country we call them organs, not for the body or for use in the church, it is for the electric piano that was used to play cumbias tropical or northern, therefore, they were also used to play rumbera or romantic salsas, but there are times when pianos were used in prayers of praise in the case of evangelical.
    In the case of the electric piano or organ, I have known it from different popular brands that have already been used by Yamaha, Casio, Korg, etc., I am a witness to seeing all this, and because I tell you this, It's because I'm Peruvian, good luck for your Germany 😁🇵🇪❤️🇩🇪

  • @Francois_L_7933
    @Francois_L_7933 8 місяців тому +10

    If you ever get another keyboard with a floppy drive, you can replace it with a Gotek adapter in most cases. This will allow you to use SD cards instead.

  • @79Glitch
    @79Glitch 8 місяців тому +6

    I have a CTK-601. I’m not sure what the time period is for either, but it seems like that CTK line is the superior Yamaha keyboard. It can do the same rhythmic and melodic combo thing, but it also allows for a form of basic synthesis, in that you could create your own preset sounds by combining two different existing preset sounds, then programming each sound based on pitch, ADSR envelope, timbre, tone, and basic LFO and waveform-esque capabilities … waveform and LFO in the sense that any of the existing preset parameters could be substituted for any other preset you are designing or programing (meaning some of the sounds have LFO like movement inherent in the patch, likewise for waveform). In other words, you could combine a basic sawtooth sound from the brass section, and combine it with a sine wave sound from the flute section … and then swap any parameter of those presets with any other if the 150ish sound parameters, and combine two of those newly made sounds together. So you could come up with some interesting original sounds. In the the example I just gave, you could pitch the flute sine wave sound down, then combine it with the saw-wave brass to add low-end. Then you could mess with any of the other parameters like envelope and tone and timbre to make your own sound.
    If this keyboard can’t do the same as what I just described with my cheap CTK series keyboard, my $50-$100 Yamaha digital keyboard that I bought new in 1996ish is far superior. Yes, I’m bragging.

  • @benmckinney2941
    @benmckinney2941 8 місяців тому +5

    Reminds me of Wesley Willis.

    • @ShakaCthulu
      @ShakaCthulu 8 місяців тому +3

      Rock over London, Rock on Chicago, Winn Dixie we’re the beef people!

    • @benmckinney2941
      @benmckinney2941 8 місяців тому +2

      INSURE ONE, IT'S THE INSURANCE SUPER STORE!

  • @counivers
    @counivers 8 місяців тому +1

    The Maximo Paitan music video is one of the best I've seen in a while!

    • @counivers
      @counivers 8 місяців тому

      That track is a real banger, but does he sing about the internet in the chorus? Was looking for an english translation.

  • @d4nial
    @d4nial 8 місяців тому +4

    My Yamaha DJX II probably has all those sounds, features, and lots more (no disk drive though!), yet I got it for $8 at a thrift store. Score!

  • @nebulance4289
    @nebulance4289 8 місяців тому +4

    My choir room had one like this, was very silly to jam on in the practice room… great vid

  • @MistabishiTV
    @MistabishiTV 8 місяців тому +3

    It just takes one person to do something surprising with an old budget bit of kit to suddenly drive its resale price through the roof...

  • @robd1365
    @robd1365 8 місяців тому +4

    I had this keyboard, I think it’s selling now for more than I paid for it in 2001. Hearing the rhythms again gives me fond memories, the instrumental sounds not so much, guess they were good for the time. I still have the midi files from the floppy disk it came with saved somewhere. I traded it in after a few years towards a Yamaha EL 90 organ but I enjoyed the keyboard for what it was.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 8 місяців тому +3

    I had the Yamaha PSR-75, even nostalgia can't make me say it was good in any way, but it was cheap and got me going!

  • @keyboardkingpin
    @keyboardkingpin 8 місяців тому +2

    I have psr 540! Got it at goodwill outlet for 15 bucks! Over 700 presets. Good video!

  • @acerbt
    @acerbt 8 місяців тому +5

    It's interesting to think about this since this keyboard, along with a select few others from yamaha came out during a time when they were transitioning between sound setes, and this actually has ssounds that are better sounding than most of the sounds on yamaha's home arranger offerings today, which just contain the same old xglight bank with very low quality presets in some cases that started being available in the late 90s or so.

  • @jthek2000
    @jthek2000 8 місяців тому +2

    The Wesley Willis instrument of choice.

  • @BrianFunkMusic
    @BrianFunkMusic 8 місяців тому +4

    Love it! I had a PSR 190 that I got a ton of mileage out of its drums. The instrument eventually died, but I have the samples. The Disco and Rap beats are especially excellent!

  • @JH-lo9ut
    @JH-lo9ut 8 місяців тому +2

    Hainbach: "this instrument puts food on the table"
    Viewer: Wait. What?

  • @Little_Internet_Monster
    @Little_Internet_Monster 8 місяців тому

    Oh, Hainbach, dear artist of melodic grace,
    Thank you for injecting our lives with color and space,
    With synths in hand, you've rescued us from strain,
    Leaving the world a more interesting, vibrant domain.
    He pressed those keys, a maestro so sly,
    Creating sounds that made dull moments fly,
    From funky basslines to soaring leads,
    His synthesizers cast a magical, sonic seed.
    Oh, Hainbach, the master of sound design,
    Through the dullest days, you make us all shine,
    With oscillators humming and filters that sweep,
    You rescue us from a life that's just too cheap.
    Each note he played came straight from his heart,
    Melting our troubles, as if by some magical art,
    His melodies danced and kissed the deepest soul,
    Turning mundane moments into something whole.
    With every chord, a new story would unfold,
    Life's boring tremors he gracefully controlled,
    Hainbach, the savior of our monotonous strife,
    Spreading joy and groove, he infused into life.
    So let the synthesizers sing their joyful tune,
    As Hainbach serenades beneath the shining moon,
    For with his friendly attitude and sonic might,
    He'll guide us through our boring plight.
    - Silke F -

  • @LaurianeG.
    @LaurianeG. 6 місяців тому

    Idk if I'm alone here but I have such a strong passion for mid 80s to early 2000s digital sound. It's got a real unique charm, and arranged and mixed well can be really magical, where the sample quality hits that "not quite real, but not quite 100% fake either" vibe that feels dreamy and magical in it's own right.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  6 місяців тому +1

      I love the mid 80s to mid 90s rompers, then it cuts off for me

    • @LaurianeG.
      @LaurianeG. 6 місяців тому

      @@Hainbach I grew up on slightly later sound, mostly of the late 90s samples from emu, akai cds, etc in the pc games I played so a lot of that hits nostalgia for me. But aside from that, I stand by what I said. I have many libraries that would be considered outdated but can still sound impressive today, even right next to some of the latest kontakt libraries out there. And then there is again sound that isn't fooling anyone but I really love. One of my passions is sneaking in my mixes "that sound used in this soundtrack" or famous sounds like the D-50 Fantasia Bell or the JV-1080 Pan Pipes aha Or even better, the M1 Universe pad. Which! I actually "caught" friggin Joe Hisaishi using it in his soundtrack for children of the sea! (which really isn't surprising, dude has had a very prolific career in the 80s and 90s in electronic music. His album "Cinderella Labrinth" (which fortunately some people have found vinyl rips) is a real gem, it came the same year as nausicaa and is very much in the same style.

    • @LaurianeG.
      @LaurianeG. 6 місяців тому

      .... Sorry hope I didn't ramble too much? I tend to get very passionate about that stuff

  • @Keith-rk4td
    @Keith-rk4td 8 місяців тому

    I have the PSS480. Got it at a resale shop for 8.50$ US. Im not a musician,just a unapologetic noise maker. It makes all the noises I need!!! Howdy from Texas 🤘🤠🤘

  • @PATRIK67KALLBACK
    @PATRIK67KALLBACK 8 місяців тому +1

    I have something similar, Roland EXR-3. When I play it, I visualize this one man band entertaining drunk people on a ferry between Sweden and Finland.

  • @summerlaverdure
    @summerlaverdure 8 місяців тому +7

    i love 90s GM rompler stuff and i love my PSR-290 but i would never put these home keyboards in the X0X tier lol, great video Hainbach

    • @kenzieprice6745
      @kenzieprice6745 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah most of the synthesizer gear enthusiast community seems unaware of the niche of composers using such things for vintage VG and media music inspired stuff or that just like utilizing the particular character of them in a cool way.
      I have a HUGE 90's early 00's GM/Rompler collection 😎.

    • @summerlaverdure
      @summerlaverdure 8 місяців тому +1

      @@kenzieprice6745 i have a PSR-290, a Kawai GMega, a Korg NS5R, when i get a Yamaha TG-300 and a Roland SC-88pro ill be done (i also have an M3R and i want more non GM romplers but thats a tangent for another day)

    • @kenzieprice6745
      @kenzieprice6745 8 місяців тому +2

      @summerlaverdure I love the GMega! That's cool you have one, it flies under the radar for everyone. I really try more of the Korg stuff. The Roland SC stuff probably inspired me the most and I love challenging myself with the confines of the single pallet of one module and seeing what I make.
      You gotta get some Casio stuff!

    • @summerlaverdure
      @summerlaverdure 8 місяців тому

      @@kenzieprice6745 if i get anything Casio GM it will be the CT-S500 i think

  • @davidpetersonharvey
    @davidpetersonharvey 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm fond of saying that music is in the ear of the beholder. For someone like me or you, adding effects or bending those sounds is the way to go.

  • @zuowa
    @zuowa 8 місяців тому +1

    I myself use a Yamaha Psr 540 (I’m not sure I spelled the name correctly) I use this self-playing synthesizer as a midi keyboard. My friend's father gave it to me; they wanted to throw this instrument away because the company it was in was changing offices. This synthesizer has been working for me for about 20 years, although now the key membrane will need to be replaced or repaired.

  • @noisetheorem
    @noisetheorem 8 місяців тому +6

    Sample and Layer. I had a Casio like that when I started out and it found a second life as food for my Emax II sampler. The sounds were so thin, they were great for layering into something bigger. Also, the buggy sound editing controls would sometimes make it sound very weird and glitchy.

    • @sssyntax
      @sssyntax 8 місяців тому

      For sure, a lot of the older Casio stuff has real magic to it!

  • @dwsel
    @dwsel 8 місяців тому +3

    PSR-270 has the same exact sounds and should be somewhat cheaper. Both of these models have step sequencer (but only PSR-340 have FDD drive - sometimes replaced with USB emulator) and are competitive to PSRs from the recent couple of years. From e333-e363 they mainly differ by the lack of multilayered sounds like Cool! and Live! and older DSP chip. A couple of years ago I gave away mine (I had since childhood) for free (back then pried at around 50$, now 2x-3x that price) and it's still being used to this day. When I hear these sounds I get nostalgic, and I'm thinking about getting one of these again.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 8 місяців тому +2

    I like the yamaha PSS-480 (and similar) series FM synths more. For DSP Yamahas the DJ-X was built cheaply but had an iconic sound.

    • @Mind-your-own-beeswax
      @Mind-your-own-beeswax 8 місяців тому

      Got a PSS 680 for nothing and it’s great fun. Also has midi and an actual synth onboard.

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 8 місяців тому +3

    I always found every synth has some unique and useful sounds in them.

    • @Coneman3
      @Coneman3 8 місяців тому

      @@GaitaPontoa sampler?

    • @Coneman3
      @Coneman3 8 місяців тому

      @@GaitaPontobut want to play on keyboard

  • @OrganicGreens
    @OrganicGreens 8 місяців тому +19

    I like arranger keyboards. The sounds are pretty corny even on modern ones but they are great if you write music. The sounds are simple but they all work together with no mixing and they are organized in a way that lets you write quickly. Yamaha has always had the best live mode

    • @Galova
      @Galova 8 місяців тому +2

      Well I wouldn't say that something like Genos or Montage have corny sounds.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 8 місяців тому

    I gave mine away to a delivery driver who said his two young kids expressed an interest in music.
    He didn't bring it back so that's a good sign.

  • @acidhousetherapy
    @acidhousetherapy 8 місяців тому

    I found a psr540 under some stairs that nobody wanted, and a mate donated a 340 to my project. They are really great machines that I never tire of. Excellent brass sounds for digital dub.

  • @tronic5x5
    @tronic5x5 8 місяців тому +1

    Holy Hassenshizzgloffen, I found one about three years ago in a thrift shop. Payed $10 bucks cuz the case was cracked and one key was missing. I painted it brown and glued small gears on it to make it look steam-punk. It's Grand Cheese and very helpless! Love this vid dude!

  • @stalkOptimum10
    @stalkOptimum10 8 місяців тому +4

    Other great vintage Yamaha keyboards: PSS 480,580,680,780, PSR 36, DJX (even has a sampler built in), DSR series

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 8 місяців тому +2

      And the VSS series, which are some of the best portable keyboards of all time imo

  • @pianokeyjoe
    @pianokeyjoe 8 місяців тому +20

    It is $200USD at a local thrift store right now and I think it is waaaay too expensive and frankly, I can not find any value for that price since I have so many of these kind of 90s home keyboards. The PSR540 is worth it though. It has some of the beats and arrangements I love. So ultimately value is personal.

    • @danieldemayo6209
      @danieldemayo6209 8 місяців тому +2

      Flip that shit. Lol I’m bout to start searching for these weekly. They look like $35 to most people.

    • @pianokeyjoe
      @pianokeyjoe 8 місяців тому

      @@danieldemayo6209 That is true, I could but for $200USD plus tax, I will be lucky if I can flip it and not get stuck with it. But you offer a good idea. Very compelling indeed lol. I will check if it is still there collecting dust.

  • @iixorb
    @iixorb 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for clearing up this mystery 🤣. Actually you can see I asked this question myself some time ago because @0:17 there is my question in the bottom left of the screen :-) My 'kid' brother-in-law is not so young now and has kids of his own. They still have my PSR-340 and amazingly the display is as bright as it was when new, and the floppy drive still works. I think I need to get it back and sell it before they realize its value, or before this 'bubble bursts' !! 😆

  • @yumernen
    @yumernen 8 місяців тому

    I have bought a PSR 310 over a year ago for EUR 40. It is 6-year more vintage and has also these styles. Not editable, rather for collectors purpose.

  • @maxcarter970
    @maxcarter970 8 місяців тому +1

    Imagine being an engineer for Yamaha and being put on the PSR team instead of the Motif team. Sorry Takeshi we gotta make these things too!

  • @Squonk0608
    @Squonk0608 8 місяців тому +1

    I still have this keyboard. Didn't realise they were selling for so much!

    • @TheBroDotTV
      @TheBroDotTV 8 місяців тому

      Not worth €600 no way. This dude got his ass ripped off 😂

  • @colinmorgan6733
    @colinmorgan6733 8 місяців тому +2

    Blimey! I bought one of those for my eldest Daughter back in the day when she was 13. It cost about £150.00.

  • @FunkeytownYT
    @FunkeytownYT 8 місяців тому +1

    this machine sounds a lot like the 16 bit consoles from the same era. really got that timbre / vibe goin on

  • @mapache_al_ataque
    @mapache_al_ataque 8 місяців тому

    When you you first started playing the preset rhythms it intermediately reminded my of some South American bands like Virus, Los Prisioneros and Estados Alterados. ❤

  • @petthewarrior
    @petthewarrior 8 місяців тому

    I was lovingly gifted this gem of a keyboard in 99 by my parents. 5 years later i disguised the unit by duct taping a floor length army green drop cloth to the sides and back covering the Yamaha logo. Piped through the cheapest Zoom/Zune guitar pedal and convinced a few concert goers in the crowd to ask if it was a 'Leslie' under there. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @BreakfastatSynthphonys
    @BreakfastatSynthphonys 9 місяців тому +2

    Awesome research Hainbach. Loved the video.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  9 місяців тому

      Thank you! ☺️

  • @reggiep75
    @reggiep75 8 місяців тому +2

    I had a feeling that the accompaniment of this, and other 90s, keyboard(s) were important. I had a mate who had a Yamaha keyboard and we'd just drink and make random tracks and give them random alcohol based names! 😂🤘

  • @VSPhotfries
    @VSPhotfries 8 місяців тому +9

    Honestly, I think the flat-ness of the sounds is appealing when implemented properly, and I have to say, I know mileage may vary but I don't think that sound at 2:05 is flat or lifeless AT ALL. That one is super rich. If I had money to burn I'd buy one just for that (or, you know, just use a sample of it like a sane person).

  • @Dmyra
    @Dmyra 8 місяців тому

    whenever Hainbach demos the sounds of presets on gear its so funny the motifs he chooses, like the spooky sound here.

  • @adifferentdrumr
    @adifferentdrumr 8 місяців тому +1

    Similarly the ensoniq ts10 is huge in Uzbekistan-lots of amazing sound sets and demo vids.

  • @djkanyon
    @djkanyon 8 місяців тому

    Yamaha.... i have flashbacks of this exact sound being played at every wedding in Eastern Europe...

  • @justinfreake4916
    @justinfreake4916 8 місяців тому +3

    DUNGEON SYNTH MENTIONED!
    didn't know i needed a hainbach dungeon synth album but now that's high up on my list of needs

  • @PocketOperatorGuy
    @PocketOperatorGuy 8 місяців тому

    I have a PSR S500.
    It uses USB and it records midi information onto a USB flash disk. I thought it was the coolest midi keyboard/workstation 19 years ago. It has "DSP" effects, Layering, and an 8 track recorder. It's not a bad machine for its age. I put in new speakers, and fixed it up. It doesn't sound too bad, it has a nice range of Instruments, after touch, velocity sensitivity, and memory banks to load "presets for gigs"
    The screen on mine died. That part is a hard find.. and about 300 bucks. The sounds and rhythm sections have independent buttons to access them, and the jog wheel works.
    I have a Casio wk6600 work station now.
    You definitely turned that old keyboard into a usable synth with the pedals. I do that with my old keyboards too. Pedals and effect boxes really make these old machines stand out and give them a second life.
    Great video as always.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! My very first band keyboard was an even older Yamaha that I ran into a Boss Overdrive. It is just a good thing to do with these.

  • @MargaretHarmer
    @MargaretHarmer 8 місяців тому +2

    Astonishingly interesting, I thoughts the sound pack presets are actually great to do some real retro stuff. And your sounds are great!

  • @MartiA1973
    @MartiA1973 8 місяців тому

    Stumbled across this as a new piano player and you could probably read my shopping list and make it interesting. Had to subscribe

  • @DavidPoole-z5i
    @DavidPoole-z5i 8 місяців тому +7

    I'm so glad you expressed exactly what I felt about my similar Yamaha keyboard. It made me feel I'd fallen out of love with keyboards and synths, but no. As you say, it just wasn't very good. I bought a PSR 270 from a friend in 2001. Basically exactly the same keyboard, same sounds and programmed beats, just no disc drive. It was always disappointing and un-inspiring to me. With horrible plastic key action. Hilarious that it found fame with Peruvian church folk! Really great to hear your opinion on my naff old keyboard, thanks for your great videos 😁

  • @lemelstudio
    @lemelstudio 8 місяців тому +2

    this story reminds me of sleng teng riddim and the Casiotone MT-40. legendary.

    • @CARLiCON
      @CARLiCON 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking same thing but VL1 Da Da Da lol

    • @cyberyogicowindler2448
      @cyberyogicowindler2448 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CARLiCON But Casio VL-1 never got moonpriced (except in original package as collectable). I only worry they may eventually extinct by rotting LCD foil cable (which carbon paint turns brittle and cracks/falls off during repair attempts and decomposes by battery leak vapours).

  • @nahtaivel93
    @nahtaivel93 8 місяців тому +1

    It's totally new to me that anyone would pay top dollar for a keyboard like this. Here in Brazil those PSRs were everywhere, I believe that they are still cheap down here.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 8 місяців тому +3

    I have a PSR530. What i like about it is comprehensive screen and controls and sounds very similar to 4MB Yamaha VST or the DB50 card, a little more refined and less aliased than the VST. It sounds good i would say. MU80 also has a similar sound. There is a comprehensive internal effect unit with some (preset) routing capabilities as well, it can do a lot of neat things like overdrive or pingpong echo and i think even pitch warped echo if i'm not mistaken, with advanced effects applying to the lead instrument, besides the standard send reverb which just runs across everything, and it gives you slightly more than zero control over the effects unit.
    What i don't like is that there is no floppy drive option, instead it uses mask ROM expansion cartridges which probably now largely exist in some Japanese landfill, except the 2 or 3 demo pack-in ones. I'm not necessarily feeling the built in styles so more options would be nice.
    The keyboard, i don't mind it. It uses the key plastic itself for key return, so it's not going to give you a lot of feel especially if well worn. The velocity estimation however is absolutely top notch (if not abused to death), so if you just trust it, it's very playable.
    I feel like this one you're showing uses the lower end ROMset with flatter sounds. It's not doing much for me i don't think. And it just looks very cut down from the UX perspective, very limited.
    I think the first digit is the model rank in the lineup, with 3 being a very low end unit and 5 being more midrange. And the second digit is generation, so mine would be one generation older than the one you tested and 2 ranks nicer. I don't think anyone should be paying more than $80 for an instrument like the psr340.

    • @pianokeyjoe
      @pianokeyjoe 8 місяців тому +2

      The 530 is the one I played at Circuit City back in 1997 and I even asked the sales floor guy if I could record my song from it to my QY20 to at least get the beats and some of the bass and chord accompaniment patterns into my QY20 so I could have that any time I wanted. The PSR530 was $600 back then. I have tons of synths and keyboards and I still do not own a PSR530/540 and it is 2024! So the value has held unfortunately.. for broke me lol

  • @Slope114
    @Slope114 8 місяців тому +1

    Replace the clock with a variable one & you’ll find it interesting.

  • @EduarBeta
    @EduarBeta 8 місяців тому

    Thanks you for talking about the impact of worship music in Latin America, which still maintains and preserves the color and sound of cheap or vintage keyboards!!

  • @asdfjkl227
    @asdfjkl227 8 місяців тому

    I think the thing that really makes it interesting is that I think I saw you can segment the keyboard to be set to different instruments.

  • @Peter_S_
    @Peter_S_ 8 місяців тому +1

    I passed up one of these when I bought a PSR-410 which I love. Now I'm kicking myself because the price was only $30 at a thrift store. I don't know what the differences are but the 410 is able to layer two sounds and some of the combinations sound fantastic.

    • @KC9UDX
      @KC9UDX 8 місяців тому +1

      The 410 is just awesome,

  • @k2a2l2
    @k2a2l2 7 місяців тому

    the retro sounds are amazing in my opinion, but i personally love that lower quality 2000s sound:) also in the right context can be used very creatively to make a unique combo

  • @jeetlahkar894
    @jeetlahkar894 8 місяців тому

    I used to own a PSR 550 which i used for 19 years. Best used in a Community Function setup, where people dont care about the most professional sound, just want to hear their favourite songs that they can sing to. In this case a single guy with an arranger keyboard is the most cost effectivre solution.

  • @mistersweatbandmusic
    @mistersweatbandmusic 8 місяців тому

    I like that choir sound around 8 min. Almost sounds like the one used in the "The Crown" on Netflix.

  • @alastairdisley2105
    @alastairdisley2105 8 місяців тому

    I bought one of these a few years ago for my kids to play around with for £50 including a stand. My kids didn't show any interest, and I saw the prices they went for, but I didn't want to start shipping keyboards around. So a Peruvian buyer found a friend living in London who made a return coach journey to Scotland, and I swapped it for £200-£300 (I forget) in Edinburgh Coach Station. He then shipped it out to his friend in Peru where it would sell for a lot more, even after expenses. I would have been more surprised by the whole thing except years earlier I had sold a Yamaha Clavinova for double what I'd paid for it a few years before, in cash, to some friends of someone who genuinely turned out to be head of airport security of a West African nation's capital city. He auditioned it over a mobile phone call and authorised the purchase. Apparently various parts of the world have/had real difficulty getting this kind of equipment in the way we can/could, and demand has created a surprising market.

    • @Answersonapostcard
      @Answersonapostcard 8 місяців тому

      Its hard to get hold of certain electrical goods in Peru, high import taxes, slow shipping and customs. Also the average montly salary in Peru is around $250, so things like this are expensive.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 8 місяців тому +3

    Some kids got into trouble for sticking PC floppy disks inside, I'm not sure if these keyboards could never read them (I know most keyboards had their own disk formats) or if the drives were just broken and never got fixed by the school. Either way, stuck disks became a recurring tribulation for the teachers.
    It's funny, at first I thought I'd remembered wrongly about these being in my school because the speakers seemed smaller compared to the control panel than my memory. Like maybe they had a version with more octaves or something. But after seeing this board from a few different angles in the video, I think this was the one and everything must have just seemed bigger to 12 year old me :)

    • @cyberyogicowindler2448
      @cyberyogicowindler2448 8 місяців тому

      3.5'' diskettes were mechanically standardized. I doubt that it would damage anything to insert PC diskettes. Perhaps the keyboard crashes and needs reboot, but Yamaha at that time for sure expected this human error and prevented serious harm. The worst thing I imagine (I have no such keyboards) is that the keyboard thinks a PC or Amiga disk is unformatted and so starts to format it (erasing its previous content).

  • @MrAdamGC
    @MrAdamGC 8 місяців тому

    This keyboard went on the market in 1999. A much better deal can be found in the PSR-270, which is essentially the same thing with different cosmetics and minus the floppy drive.

  • @masterresonax6642
    @masterresonax6642 8 місяців тому

    I had the psr 270. My first real keyboard. It was dope. Layered voices split keyboard added fx 6 track sequencer. it was all there.

  • @MassimoBoscoMusic
    @MassimoBoscoMusic 7 місяців тому

    Basically it shares the same architecture and controls of the Yamaha DJX1 (which I actually consider to be one of the best instruments ever produced).

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu 8 місяців тому

    All things considered, it has very good sound quality. It makes me want to take a deep dive back into some of my old cheesy 90s keyboards.

  • @isawthatonvideo
    @isawthatonvideo 8 місяців тому

    I still have mine 😊 Had it since I was at school!

  • @mykroz
    @mykroz 8 місяців тому +1

    Funny I have one in excellent condition and even with an original box. My father bought it new for my sister when it just came out. Always wondered why the prices of this model are so high and finally you gave me the answer. Thank you!
    PS: Can sell, no lowballs, (now) I know what I have 😂

  • @vainovemmelsaari5955
    @vainovemmelsaari5955 8 місяців тому

    Last night I thought I loose my mind and it did sound pretty much like this.

  • @dgSolidarity
    @dgSolidarity 8 місяців тому +1

    Seems kinda silly to me.
    Now the PSR-36, that’s where it’s at!

    • @ArafuraMusic
      @ArafuraMusic 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, the PSR-36 is a beast!

  • @jamesbennettmusic
    @jamesbennettmusic 8 місяців тому +1

    I had noticed the mad prices too! When I was 13 I had a 240. It sucked! MIDI was weird, I managed to use it as a controller before I got rid of it, but if anyone pressed the stupid DEMO button for the Star Wars demo, it completely scrambled the patches on the Roland SoundCanvas I had plugged into it

  • @Paciolimusic
    @Paciolimusic 8 місяців тому +1

    I was just in Peru and asked someone about this. It seems to be a popular choice for cumbia/chicha also, and people sell soundbanks and loops for it. I believe other latam groups have also gravitated towards this keyboard or similar - it definitely has 'that' sound that I've heard in a lot of cumbia and cumbia-adjacent music.
    I'm skeptical that it's all because of that one song, however. The Casio MT40 was a cheap keyboard that made the sleng teng riddim, and now its price holds up. Even the 808 was picked up by budding hip hop producers in thrift stores - the drum sounds were considered unrealistic at the time, so it was often discarded.
    I'm thinking this keyboard became popular simply because it's what was available, and then became the standard with a particular sound.

    • @cyberyogicowindler2448
      @cyberyogicowindler2448 8 місяців тому +1

      Sometimes musicians simply don't know that keyboard models with same sound engine exist, to recreate the style of a certain band. In 1990th e.g. it was the Casio CZ-101, that was sold used for about 5 times the price of other CZ-series phase distortion synths, because others simply were unknown.

  • @rrrobart9
    @rrrobart9 8 місяців тому

    My first synth was a CS6X which came out in 99. It was a “control synthesizer”-not an arranger. But wow I loved it. I will buy another one someday. But this thing… nah.

  • @kevinwhite6176
    @kevinwhite6176 8 місяців тому +5

    Somehow I'm reminded of my PSR-320, which I'm not sure qualifies as an arranger keyboard versus a general-MIDI home keyboard. The one thing that made it worth quite a lot to me for a long time as a complete novice hobbyist, was that the drum sounds were surprisingly good. The plain acoustic rock kit was very good, the 808 and 909 were good, and it had this "electronic" gated reverb kit that sounded like nothing I've ever heard before or since with this amazing SMASH kind of sound. It did not sound like a gated reverb kit at all. It did not sound like an RX-whatever with the reverb cranked. It sounded like having your brain punched out of your skull. Also, it had these cartridges you could plug in with songs, and the one that came with mine had "All That She Wants" by Ace of Base. Or was it "The Sign"? Or both?

    • @Timborob
      @Timborob 8 місяців тому +1

      I still have mine up in the loft 😁

    • @jdxijames
      @jdxijames 8 місяців тому

      Sold my PSR 320 years ago. Was great fun, but those cartridges....

  • @IanWaugh
    @IanWaugh 8 місяців тому +3

    Those Peruvians sure knew how to rock... 😊

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick 8 місяців тому

    I don't even have to google it, but I can remember my first keyboard was a PSS795. I got so much out of that thing.

  • @RichardCyberPunk
    @RichardCyberPunk 8 місяців тому

    I have a Yamaha PSR-330 and a PSR-350. Nice keyboards with MIDI.

  • @drphiI
    @drphiI 8 місяців тому +1

    A great example of how seemingly bland and boring instruments inspire subcultures of music around the world. Reminds me of how musicians in Sub-Saharan Africa traded and distributed their music through cheap cellphones and p2p Bluetooth sharing.

  • @els1f
    @els1f 8 місяців тому

    You did it! Hainbach made a video of an instrument that REMOVES my gas and makes me feel like listening to anything else fast 🤣😂🤣😂 happy New Year everybody 🙃

  • @darrenm303
    @darrenm303 8 місяців тому +1

    Dungeon synth was a good use of this board but lol I've never seen so much struggle to enjoy a psr. Heck naw I wouldn't buy one but I appreciate the coverage of the topic. When I sell old casios and Yamahas to locals it's usually Latino church bands messaging and they are very seriously only going to buy it if it has horns, guitar, and flute presets. It has exactly what they need.
    If it doesn't have that... The next market down is my first keyboard for nephew Johny.

  • @JolphinLlama
    @JolphinLlama 8 місяців тому

    I really love coming back to this channel over and over, each time i learn about things i never knew and i just cant express how happy that makes me. Hainbach you're such and amazing musical person to know and learn from, im soo happy i will always come back to this channel with a smile on my face.

    • @Hainbach
      @Hainbach  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for brightening my morning with this❤️

  • @sl3102
    @sl3102 8 місяців тому

    Ironically I thought that turned out to be one of your more interesting songs. Don't get me wrong, I find your music fascinating, but there was something special about this one 😎