"I can't use this fire extinguisher because I didn't want to." That's a smart decision. It's best to save the fire extinguisher for a time when you actually need it.
@@jort93z not only that. From the shape of the hose of the extinguisher he showed on video, it looks to be a general purpose powder based fire extinguisher. In my country, that kind of fire extinguisher is marked for use on A, B and C type fires. Metal based fires are classified under the D cathegory, meaning that that kind of extinguisher (probably, no idea if in Australia things are different) isn't even rated for that type of fire. This doesn't mean that it outright won't work but not only you can't expect it to work, you can even make it worse. Also powder based fire extinguishers are known to cause heavy damage to electronics, which means that his recording equipment will likely be toast and if the furnace relies on electronics to work, those are likely to need a replacement as well. If all of that wasn't enough, Considering he uses this shed for chemical storage and other electronic equipment, the economical damage would be monumental. Maybe it wasn't the safest choice not to use it, but it's perfectly understandable and it probably wouldn't have worked at all.
@@archuserbytheway not I did this as in I did this exact experiment and chemical reaction. I did a completely unprofessional at home experiment that was chaotic but actually yielded some of the desired product instead of starting a fire and filling the room woth fumes pike this guy
Suddenly had flashbacks to the Chernobyl HBO show. "How do we put it out?" "Boron. Boron and sand. That will cause problems of it's own later, but I don't see any other way."
yea im pretty sure that smoke is more toxic than "organic" fire... chlorides ozone probably a bunch more... and if it doesnt react how you think it should, its not producing the expected result and theres a reason why. and highlights you wont know whats it that smoke. i know what that purple smoke is i just cant remember what right now. iodine or something i think
I know one mixture that uses Ammonia and the fumes it gives out is harmless. And this is just to make a type of gunpowder that goes off just by anything touching it, even the light from a laser pointer.
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris Ammonium tri-iodide....We used to paint it on the stairs in the chemistry building and let it dry. All of a sudden you would hear someone step on the step and BANG!...then it was BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG!!! That is what people going for their advanced degrees in chemistry do for fun...lol
"I don't want to treat the most serious addiction problem humanity has ever had because it costs too much." -Jerks like you "I've never noticed MADD is a scheme to make it okay for bars to have parking spots." -Your even dumber mom
Our lungs are covered in a protective film, rendering us highly resistant or immune to traditional airborne toxins or deterrents. *You'll* never kill us with fumes or gasses, but *WE* will. You have been warned.
It deleted my reply because it was insane for me to joke that our lungs are immune to airborne diseases or toxins thanks to the protective film we have coated them in. Thank you UA-cam, your cowardice has saved the youth.
@@def-po8tu I mean over a long period it would be. But since it much more showy than dense, it would be no worse and possibly less harmful than the smoke of a campfire blowing to where you’re sitting before you move out of the way. That constantly happened to me as a kid. We made small camp fires a few times a week during summer and fall, and no matter where I sat, where the wind was blowing right before or how often I moved, I had like 5 minuets at most to get comfortable before I had to move again. Never happened to my friends more than a few times, like normal, but seemed to follow me around. It was crazy.
Confirm this for me but was his biggest mistake putting the glass in that furnace? Normally u would use a crucible of some metal or concrete or something thick right? He's using really thin glass in a very hot oven
Ironically, he couldn't have used that extinguisher to put out that fire even if he wanted to. You need a class D extinguisher to put out metal fires, and that red one was an A...
hmm, was that potassium chloride flame test color? that stuff burns lungs and has other cool side effects that might put you in the mortician's refrigerator
Thanks! I know that burning potassium emits a purple flame, but are you sure the vapour itself is purple too? I can't seem to find out with a quick google search
As a chemistry teacher I feel like yelling at you. Let’s review your decisions and experience: 1) Your pre-procedure research was lacking. 2) You worked in an enclosed space without a fume hood. 3) You evolved a vapor that surprised you. 4) You created a hazmat situation which you were unable to manage. 5) You assumed it was safe. And I bet there are 2-3 times as many things I missed! (If you were a cat NPC, you’d be down to 8 or 7 lives.)
@STEAMerBea Scientific glass blower / chemist here. As I'm sure you're aware breathing either potassium or sodium vapor would produce sodium and potassium hydroxide which would probably the lungs if he were really unlucky. I can't believe anybody would work with chemicals without a hood and in such a tiny space. When I used to make gold and silver jewelry as a hobby I was very respiratory conscious and built myself a soldering cabinet( fluoride vapors from the flux) and a metal buffing Hood( silicious powders and metal oxides inhalation hazard). Working at an inhalation toxicology research lab tends to make you very conscious about inhalation being a route for taking harmful reagents directly and irreversibly into your body.
"Not organic vapor, so it was safe". Nitrous vapors aren't organic either, and they definitely aren't safe. That fume could just be vaporized NaCl, so definitely not THAT dangerous, but if it was vaporized metal or quartz, dude is DONE for.
I didn't use the fire extinguisher because I didn't want to. Famous last words. edit: I'm not talking about this scenario, I'm just saying that this quote could be famous last words.
@@jakx2ob That furnace isn't made for burning alkali metal. It will dissolve the firebrick in no time, but that's the least problem here. Cognitively challenged people are incompatible with this kind of experimentation.
Yeah I did find the product to remain a liquid with a sodium flame. I might try again (with a metal still) and redistill the product to see if that purifies it
@@mrgreenguy Repeated distillations probably won't get a pure product. If you can use a fractionating collum you could get fairly close but for amuature scale better to use a metal with a very low vapor pressure like lithium or calcium to do the reduction.
Holy shit! Its Cody! Wow I’ve been watching your videos for a long time! (And by the way, THANK YOU for all of your hard work and… extremely interesting videos of extremely interesting things! Oh and to the creator of this video! Thanks! That was cool! I’ve certainly never seen anything quite like that before! 🤔🫣😁
As a welder I can confirm that metal fume poisoning is not fun. Mind you sodium and potassium fumes aren't that bad and he would be fine with this level of exposure. Zinc is not nice cobalt is pretty nasty and hexavalent chromium is potentially deadly. I've had zinc poisoning a few times and metal fume fever once from zinc and cobalt but never had chromium exposure. Lots of older welders develop mild parkinsons like symptoms.
Love how people will pick segmients to complain about acting like nothing ellse was said past the topic of complaint like (the metal fumes) he was talking about... didnt say "all" metal fumes are non-toxic.... just what he was working on "was".... not "all".... but ok ken, what ellse you wanna cause problems about today unessasarly? 😂
@dismo021 he didn't say that, he isn't stupid. ALL metal fumes ARE toxic but the concentrations at which they're actively dangerous are sometimes higher than organic smoke. Oxygen and Alkali metal fires produce hydroxides. In this case that smoke is mostly sodium hydroxide. It is true that his exposure was low enough to be unlikely to pose a serious acute risk. However inhaling what is effectively drain cleaner is not harmless or safe. Try it and prove me wrong if you like lmao.
"The smoke doesn't affect my lungs", lol, right. That's why you never have to worry about ventilation when you're forging metals or combining highly reactive elements
@@TheRealMycanthrope The real issue is that you clearly didn't understand that I was making fun of your sarcasm. Not that I owe you any explanation, but you sarcastically implied that this smoke was indeed harmful to inhale, when in reality it is not. The guy in the video said absolutely nothing about "never" having to worry about ventilation when forging metals. It is just not necessary in this specific case. There is a gradient regarding the toxicity of smoke produced in metal forging; and you made yourself sound like a buffoon by sarcastically implying that he needed ventilation for this smoke, when in reality it was not harmful in any way.
A few pointers from a CTA working with high risk material: The Temperature was too high, 800 °C would have worked and been safer. At the risk of metal fires keep a few Buckets of dry Sand in reach. Sand contains the reaction and cools it without Explosion. Good call with not using the Fireextiguisher, burning NaK like Magnesium will rip CO2 apart and even burn encased in Dry Ice. Research the risks of your experiment in advance and then have fun. I have seen too many people with missing body-parts caused by little accidents. please don't get on that list.
Burning Glass... Wouldn't be countered by pouring Sand over it! Feeding Glass to a reaction that's eating the Glass is a circle jerk! Ventilation was way to low!
All molten light metals have the potential to eat through glassware, quartz or not, and there are videos out there showing lithium doing the same thing your reaction did. Not sure why, but I'd guess at a high enough temperature, it becomes a thermite reaction, stealing oxygen from the silicon dioxide in glass. It's also self-fueling, as you discovered, so the only way to handle it is to bury it in inert material like salt and wait until it burns out.
yeah it happens because the quartz salt is ionic, however since sodium and potassium are more reactive than sillicon, at high temp if they are not bound in an ionic lattice they will yoink up that oxygen from the silicon, better to use a crucible than a flask next time.
God it feels good knowing I'm not alone in this mind fuck comment. It's smoke lol That's LITERALLY all it does It gets everywhere!!! It will leave a residue Residue is the number 1 cause of blebs in lung tissue.
@@ModerationLabsalso because as many people mentioned most fire extinguishers aren't actually rated for metal fires which means in some cases it would make things worse
Although it looks chaotic I'm pretty sure it's under enough control since I'm also the kind of person who does stuff like this and goes oops that wasn't a good idea but still knows the limits of safe enough
After observing the thrilling quandry that @@mrgreenguyfaced, I could safely research and learn that smothering with sodium chloride and sodium bicarbonate is the thing to do. Learned that my first impulse of using quartzy sand might be counter-productive.
@@alexbouchard3880 Decomposition isn't a switcheroo. Neither is something like oxidation with oxygen, where stuff just combines without swapping anything out.
Good to see that you got a lot more sodium metal now I saw your video along time ago when you made it so now at least it’s good to see that you have the budget to buy it 😅
I'm not certain chemistry is the most appropriate way to summon metaphysical entities. Good to know the reaction completed without a visit from the Dark Lord though.
You haven't ingested the right chemicals, it seems. I can assure you, chemistry can help you do everything from see the face of god to open a portal to Hell. For a few hours, anyway.
I love watching anything with group 1 alkali metals in water, you reminded me of this when you mentioned Argon gas, as it's inert and is also used to house reactive to oxygen metals like found in group 1.
You definitely need to invest in a class D fire extinguisher if you’re going to be doing experiments/reactions that reach the ignition point of the metal reagents you’re using.
There's an extremely specific fire extinguisher class for metal fires, class D. You can remember it by this mnemonic: A: Ash (flammables that make ash) B: Barrel (stuff from barrels) C: Circuits (electrical) D: Da metal. K: Kitchen
The reason the argon was making things worse was probably not because of the argon itself, but because the gas flow was pulling in ambient air deeper inside. I think the only way you could have injected argon was... yes, with a quartz tube shoved in the bottom of the furnace lol.
This is very scary. To do this reaction you need a steel still. Iron is fairly resistant to alkali metals. You can use calcium lithium or magnesium despite being less reactive than potassium the potassium will boil out as the metals combine with the chlorine. Can do this with sodium rubidium and cesium too. In a nutshell the thermodynamics overwhelmed the reactivity.
I was surprised how many comments I had to scroll through before I found yours mentioning the necessity of a metal still for this endeavor, was planning on stating as much myself if Noone else did but ya beat me to it lol but yeah op could easily make a steel still with brake lines and any number of steel vessels
Will this reaction really produce pure metal, like K or Na tho? I have no experience with reaction like that. I always assumed this was a method to obtain NaK alloy.
It's more that this is an alkali metal fire and that kind of extinguisher probably wouldn't do anything-- it could even make it worse by adding oxidizer to the reaction if it's a common CO2 extinguisher and turn the furnace into a bomb
Damn Mr. White! Dat new crystal is Fire! 🔥 forget about that blue stuff! Edit: You need a Class D fire extinguisher. They are not cheap, but neither is a new house 😅
Ahh yes thunderf00t actually did a video about distilling alkali metals in glass. Very cool video im glad you showed this man. The sodium definitely reacted with the glass and its weird how it can continue to travel along the glass with a destructive path.
Uh.... Potassium ions react with silicon dioxide. Thats a known issue. You could probably run that reaction in a steel container as you're purifying by distillation.
Im polish so sorry if I mess up the translations, but the reaction didnt work becouse this kind of reaction requires the Na to have a smaller (more negative) potential then the K in KCl and it doesn't (V for Na=-2,710 and for K=-2,931)
It does work better that way as it's the preferred reaction, but it's a reversible reaction that can still produce potassium metal if you remove it as it's formed. Cody's lab explained it on one of his videos a while back, called "Cody's Alkali Metal converter" on UA-cam
I used to think "don't use it, I might need it for something worse" but you have to ask yourself if the $20 fire extinguisher is worth more or less to both your safety and the items your working with Stay safe and use any safety item, you have it for a reason
Yeah, glass reacts with reactive metalls like sodium, potassium or magnesium at high enough temperatures. You should use vacuum destillation for potassium to keep the temperature lower.
Yeah it's weird, I did some searching online to see if quartz glass is resistant, and all I remember finding was that it reacts with lithium metal, and hydroxides. I couldn't find much on Sodium or potassium at higher temperatures
@@mrgreenguyIt is not that prone to react with sodium or potassium. But already from a electrochemical pov it should reduce SiO2 to Si. But it is totally possible to work with Na and K (And even Li) at elevated temperatures with glass. But not 1000°C. Look at the channel Advanced Tinkering. He actually did synthesize K (and even Rb and Cs) from Li and the metal salt. But the key was always a vacuum destillation.
@@mrgreenguyyou could try and combining vacum with a more resistant glass, borosilicate glass is comonly used in labs due to its high chemical resistance, we use it at my workplace to do various redox ractions. One of our reactions litterally uses a thermite mixture as an oxidizing reagent to convert amoniumnitrate to amonia. Although we dont use temperatures even close to what you did here. I would definitively look up the potential viability for it. I also would recomend using either a vacum chamber or try doing the reactio. In an innert gas chamber. Having access to excess oxygen from the air can help fuel the reaction and kickstart it to become self sustaining by eating at the oxygrn in the glass. Its also worth mentioning that all the alkaline metals are absurdly reactive with oxygen, so you should always asume that they will try and "steal" oxygen from any available source in the area of reaction.
"I can't use this fire extinguisher because I didn't want to."
That's a smart decision. It's best to save the fire extinguisher for a time when you actually need it.
Also, not sure what type of extinguisher it is, but some are quite corrosive, so it might break the furnace.
@@jort93z not only that. From the shape of the hose of the extinguisher he showed on video, it looks to be a general purpose powder based fire extinguisher.
In my country, that kind of fire extinguisher is marked for use on A, B and C type fires. Metal based fires are classified under the D cathegory, meaning that that kind of extinguisher (probably, no idea if in Australia things are different) isn't even rated for that type of fire.
This doesn't mean that it outright won't work but not only you can't expect it to work, you can even make it worse. Also powder based fire extinguishers are known to cause heavy damage to electronics, which means that his recording equipment will likely be toast and if the furnace relies on electronics to work, those are likely to need a replacement as well.
If all of that wasn't enough, Considering he uses this shed for chemical storage and other electronic equipment, the economical damage would be monumental. Maybe it wasn't the safest choice not to use it, but it's perfectly understandable and it probably wouldn't have worked at all.
Yeah also: 4Na + CO2 -> 2Na2O + C + a lot of energy.
Also burning alkali metal would probably just get oxidized by the co2 in the extinguisher and burn even more.
@@fenriskhan462 Thats what I said but YT deletes all of my comments. UA-cam IF YOU ARE READING THIS, FUCK YOU!
That fire extinguisher is me with *ANY* consumable buff in a game.
“Yeah I could use it now, but what if I need it later?!”
how i carry 30 pineapple grenades in a zombie game:
Fax
For me its a mix of that and "if i need it to best the enemy, maybe i need to get better/stronger"
me with an obscene amount of potions and scrolls. I call them assets and tell myself I'm going to sell them when I max barter but I never do
Classic case of too good to use syndrome. You end up finishing the game with pretty powerful consumables that u could've used at that one boss.
As a game designer this has given me the inspiration to add a fire extinguisher into every fantasy game I make just for shiggles
This is like watching a middle schooler with access to adult money try its hand at chemistry
Holmes-esque 😒
Even worse, I did this as a teen to synthesise my own dmt and it went better than this
Ever get a working specimen?@@marcokonst4144
@@marcokonst4144 you needed potassium metal for the synthesis?
@@archuserbytheway not I did this as in I did this exact experiment and chemical reaction. I did a completely unprofessional at home experiment that was chaotic but actually yielded some of the desired product instead of starting a fire and filling the room woth fumes pike this guy
Sand. You have a bucket with quartz sand for such occasions.
Sounds about right.
Then again glass is just sand, so would sand really help that much?
"it ate the quartz sand."
"it's currently heading towards the core of the planet."
@@computernoise2209perfectly fucking vertical
Suddenly had flashbacks to the Chernobyl HBO show. "How do we put it out?" "Boron. Boron and sand. That will cause problems of it's own later, but I don't see any other way."
@@Andyilmatto thermal mass.
More famous last words: the vapor is safe to breathe.
Said every Meth cook in America
Breaking only a little bad..lol
yea im pretty sure that smoke is more toxic than "organic" fire...
chlorides ozone probably a bunch more... and if it doesnt react how you think it should, its not producing the expected result and theres a reason why. and highlights you wont know whats it that smoke.
i know what that purple smoke is i just cant remember what right now. iodine or something i think
I know one mixture that uses Ammonia and the fumes it gives out is harmless. And this is just to make a type of gunpowder that goes off just by anything touching it, even the light from a laser pointer.
@@OneAndOnlyZekePolaris Ammonium tri-iodide....We used to paint it on the stairs in the chemistry building and let it dry. All of a sudden you would hear someone step on the step and BANG!...then it was BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG!!! That is what people going for their advanced degrees in chemistry do for fun...lol
THAT SHED NEEDS WAY MORE VENTILATION.
One of these days, Jacob.. one of these days.. POW! Shed blows sky-high to the Moon!
that shed needs ANY ventilation...
Read this as She’d need more ventilation & was like who is She?? 😍
somehow i can't shake the feeling that this whole shed is inside his living room, so.... yeah but ... yeah
@@R37ARD3D name checks out
"It doesn't effect my lungs because it's not like normal smoke"
-Cigarette smokers
"I don't want to treat the most serious addiction problem humanity has ever had because it costs too much."
-Jerks like you
"I've never noticed MADD is a scheme to make it okay for bars to have parking spots."
-Your even dumber mom
Our lungs are covered in a protective film, rendering us highly resistant or immune to traditional airborne toxins or deterrents. *You'll* never kill us with fumes or gasses, but *WE* will. You have been warned.
-ANY smoker(will use this exact quote if you press them on inhaling anything that isn't clean, healthy to breathe air)
No
It deleted my reply because it was insane for me to joke that our lungs are immune to airborne diseases or toxins thanks to the protective film we have coated them in.
Thank you UA-cam, your cowardice has saved the youth.
"This smoke can't affect my lungs."
Pressing X to doubt.
😂😂😂
Potassium chloride will cause mild irritation... thats it
"it ate the quartz"
Uh oh
"Argon made it burn hotter"
UH OH
🤣🤣🤣
hahaha
Literally my audible reaction hahaha
Sam O’Nella voice
uh oh. Uh Oh. *UH OH*
Can someone tell me why the argon made it burn hotter?
If anyone is curious, this is an example of what not to do, all of it
I feel like breathing that crap in has to be terrible for ur lungs
@@def-po8tu I mean over a long period it would be. But since it much more showy than dense, it would be no worse and possibly less harmful than the smoke of a campfire blowing to where you’re sitting before you move out of the way.
That constantly happened to me as a kid. We made small camp fires a few times a week during summer and fall, and no matter where I sat, where the wind was blowing right before or how often I moved, I had like 5 minuets at most to get comfortable before I had to move again. Never happened to my friends more than a few times, like normal, but seemed to follow me around. It was crazy.
Confirm this for me but was his biggest mistake putting the glass in that furnace? Normally u would use a crucible of some metal or concrete or something thick right? He's using really thin glass in a very hot oven
This is why everyone should quit science and join religion
@@IamtheMan1111lmfaoo
Ironically, he couldn't have used that extinguisher to put out that fire even if he wanted to. You need a class D extinguisher to put out metal fires, and that red one was an A...
I would guess abc but yeah point still stands
Thats scary
That's the joke, that's why he "didn't want to"
"smoke wont hurt me."
awful confident considering it turned purple at one point.
hmm, was that potassium chloride flame test color? that stuff burns lungs and has other cool side effects that might put you in the mortician's refrigerator
@@RWZiggyooh I love refrigerators
Iodine is good for you
Craziest thing about this video is the price of the flask
I wish Quartz glass was cheaper lol
Oh I thought the price was because he ruined the furnace as well.
@@jakx2ob It's just that one piece of glass 😅
@@mrgreenguy Just try stealing glassware from Explosions & Fire again, I'm sure it'll work this time
@@Galethvia his glassware would naturally turn everything yellow tho
That purple smoke is potassium vapor. Pretty cool that you were able to capture that!
Thanks! I know that burning potassium emits a purple flame, but are you sure the vapour itself is purple too? I can't seem to find out with a quick google search
Chemical Force has a video about it where he decomposes potassium azide in an argon atmosphere. It’s really cool.
@@RiehlScience Ah awesome, I'll be sure to check that out!
Ah yes the Purple Fire
I wonder if you could use potassium vapor making aerogel to make purple aerogel, lol
“Now, my whole house was about to set on fire but I didn’t want to use a fire extinguisher” ☠️ 😂
That fire extinguisher would have done f*** all
He didn’t want to use the fire extinguisher because it will make one hell of a mess!
So would, you know, the entire shed melting because of a 1K degree fire.
@@NFITC1 indeed. Luckily, since the fire was not the type to engulf the whole shed, there was no problem with not extinguishing it.
As a chemistry teacher I feel like yelling at you. Let’s review your decisions and experience:
1) Your pre-procedure research was lacking.
2) You worked in an enclosed space without a fume hood.
3) You evolved a vapor that surprised you.
4) You created a hazmat situation which you were unable to manage.
5) You assumed it was safe.
And I bet there are 2-3 times as many things I missed!
(If you were a cat NPC, you’d be down to 8 or 7 lives.)
@STEAMerBea
Scientific glass blower / chemist here. As I'm sure you're aware breathing either potassium or sodium vapor would produce sodium and potassium hydroxide which would probably the lungs if he were really unlucky. I can't believe anybody would work with chemicals without a hood and in such a tiny space. When I used to make gold and silver jewelry as a hobby I was very respiratory conscious and built myself a soldering cabinet( fluoride vapors from the flux) and a metal buffing Hood( silicious powders and metal oxides inhalation hazard). Working at an inhalation toxicology research lab tends to make you very conscious about inhalation being a route for taking harmful reagents directly and irreversibly into your body.
Don't worry, he's only a couple of experiments away from unaliving himself.
@@DIARRHEA-PANIC I really don't want people earning Darwin awards; they so often hurt others in the process.
Dude was seriously irresponsible.
"Not organic vapor, so it was safe".
Nitrous vapors aren't organic either, and they definitely aren't safe. That fume could just be vaporized NaCl, so definitely not THAT dangerous, but if it was vaporized metal or quartz, dude is DONE for.
And this dear children is why you research in advance that metals can dissolve glass.
He fluxed up
Quartz glassware
@@Scarodactylthat made me laugh far too much
@Scarodactyl. Ha ha ha. Number one joke I have heard all day.
@@Scarodactyldude the metal af
Buddy, you did not want to breath that gas, that was a very bad mistake.
Agreed.
They should really put safety labels on those extinguishers, "DO NOT USE ON FIRES THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT!"
“The smoke isn’t concentrated enough to hurt me”
*Literally sees the fucking room covered in zero visibility*
Yeah, at that point I was already done here.
No even if the smoke isn't a problem, its the lack of Air in your lungs buddy..
Words of General in April 22, 1915
@@krzysztofratajski9218 Lmfao. Good one.
Zero Visibility!🤣
I mean yeah 😂😂😂 what was his mission here? For this you just don't use glass... I literally never heated any of my labor glass higher than 180°C
Ah yes, the demon crucible
Glowing red orb this time
Was about to say that, he made a radiation bomb in a crucible
it is just coils and some rock
Shoulda used a screwdriver
Rip, and tear
Just because he is wearing a lab coat doesn't mean he knows what he is doing
“And I couldn’t use this fire extinguisher because I didn’t want to”
I didn't use the fire extinguisher because I didn't want to. Famous last words.
edit: I'm not talking about this scenario, I'm just saying that this quote could be famous last words.
Big mess to clean up.
this isn't even borderline idiotic anymore.
@@toseltreps1101 The furnace is made for containing hot stuff.
@@jakx2ob That furnace isn't made for burning alkali metal. It will dissolve the firebrick in no time, but that's the least problem here. Cognitively challenged people are incompatible with this kind of experimentation.
Fire extinguisher usually make a huge mess, you basically have to renovate the whole room after using it 😅
Sodium and potassium will bolth distill over so the metal that you collect this way will be NaK
Bakk
Yeah I did find the product to remain a liquid with a sodium flame. I might try again (with a metal still) and redistill the product to see if that purifies it
@@mrgreenguy Repeated distillations probably won't get a pure product. If you can use a fractionating collum you could get fairly close but for amuature scale better to use a metal with a very low vapor pressure like lithium or calcium to do the reduction.
@@theCodyReeder Ah okay, yeah I will probably just use lithium then. Thanks!
Holy shit! Its Cody! Wow I’ve been watching your videos for a long time! (And by the way, THANK YOU for all of your hard work and… extremely interesting videos of extremely interesting things!
Oh and to the creator of this video! Thanks! That was cool! I’ve certainly never seen anything quite like that before! 🤔🫣😁
A fire started in the furnace
Are you summing up for those who didn't have the time to watch the whole 45 seconds?
@@Adrak-Hiano I think it's a play on words because furnaces are usually used for melting things with..you know fire lol
I totally thought you were in the process of making a bong at first lmao
I dont think you should be saying metal fumes aren't dangerous, they're definitely dangerous. Welders suffer from breathing/lung related diseases
As a welder I can confirm that metal fume poisoning is not fun.
Mind you sodium and potassium fumes aren't that bad and he would be fine with this level of exposure. Zinc is not nice cobalt is pretty nasty and hexavalent chromium is potentially deadly.
I've had zinc poisoning a few times and metal fume fever once from zinc and cobalt but never had chromium exposure. Lots of older welders develop mild parkinsons like symptoms.
Love me some Zinc shakes after work. Drink ya milk!
Love how people will pick segmients to complain about acting like nothing ellse was said past the topic of complaint like (the metal fumes) he was talking about... didnt say "all" metal fumes are non-toxic.... just what he was working on "was".... not "all".... but ok ken, what ellse you wanna cause problems about today unessasarly? 😂
In his defense he said it’s not dangerous to take in for the few minutes he did. Welders take that shit in all the time.
@dismo021 he didn't say that, he isn't stupid. ALL metal fumes ARE toxic but the concentrations at which they're actively dangerous are sometimes higher than organic smoke.
Oxygen and Alkali metal fires produce hydroxides. In this case that smoke is mostly sodium hydroxide. It is true that his exposure was low enough to be unlikely to pose a serious acute risk. However inhaling what is effectively drain cleaner is not harmless or safe. Try it and prove me wrong if you like lmao.
"The smoke doesn't affect my lungs", lol, right. That's why you never have to worry about ventilation when you're forging metals or combining highly reactive elements
You don't seem to understand the definition of the word "never".
@@kingconcerto5860actually I think the issue is that you clearly don't understand sarcasm
@@TheRealMycanthrope The real issue is that you clearly didn't understand that I was making fun of your sarcasm.
Not that I owe you any explanation, but you sarcastically implied that this smoke was indeed harmful to inhale, when in reality it is not. The guy in the video said absolutely nothing about "never" having to worry about ventilation when forging metals. It is just not necessary in this specific case.
There is a gradient regarding the toxicity of smoke produced in metal forging; and you made yourself sound like a buffoon by sarcastically implying that he needed ventilation for this smoke, when in reality it was not harmful in any way.
It is a good thing that he didn’t use a fire extinguisher because it would be a waste in the first place.
At least he was honest about the fire extinguisher, to many people try to come up with ridiculous excuses.
A few pointers from a CTA working with high risk material:
The Temperature was too high, 800 °C would have worked and been safer.
At the risk of metal fires keep a few Buckets of dry Sand in reach. Sand contains the reaction and cools it without Explosion.
Good call with not using the Fireextiguisher, burning NaK like Magnesium will rip CO2 apart and even burn encased in Dry Ice.
Research the risks of your experiment in advance and then have fun.
I have seen too many people with missing body-parts caused by little accidents. please don't get on that list.
but... but... that would be... intelligent, and this is the internet!
@@stephenkolostyak4087
But...but...someone has to reign in the kiddos. Play nice. Play safe.
I think you're new to this channel lol
Using sand is genious!
Burning Glass... Wouldn't be countered by pouring Sand over it! Feeding Glass to a reaction that's eating the Glass is a circle jerk! Ventilation was way to low!
All molten light metals have the potential to eat through glassware, quartz or not, and there are videos out there showing lithium doing the same thing your reaction did. Not sure why, but I'd guess at a high enough temperature, it becomes a thermite reaction, stealing oxygen from the silicon dioxide in glass. It's also self-fueling, as you discovered, so the only way to handle it is to bury it in inert material like salt and wait until it burns out.
Thermiting fucking glass is a scary thought
This is why foam application extinguishers exist. Purposely designed for chemical reaction fires like this one.
What kind of glassware would be used for this application?
Also glass dissolves nicely in molten salt...
yeah it happens because the quartz salt is ionic, however since sodium and potassium are more reactive than sillicon, at high temp if they are not bound in an ionic lattice they will yoink up that oxygen from the silicon, better to use a crucible than a flask next time.
"I can't use this fire extinguisher because I didn't want to"
Famus last words
This guy is like the scientist trope from every cartoon.
Bro was breathing ALLL OF THAT IN…. Dudes gonna have major issues in a couple years…..
"The smoke doesn't affect my lungs because it isn't organic" made my jaw drop, what a dingus
Eh, it's just a bit of sodium /potassium hydroxide forming in situ when the vapour hits the lungs, what could go wrong 😂😂
@@davidfields5375 Yeah I mean, Asbestos isn't organic either.
God it feels good knowing I'm not alone in this mind fuck comment.
It's smoke lol
That's LITERALLY all it does
It gets everywhere!!!
It will leave a residue
Residue is the number 1 cause of blebs in lung tissue.
I'm legitimately becoming concerned for your safety at this point
im pretty sure he knows what he is doing
@@YungXaniemore or less, he has all the safety equipment on hand, just doesn’t use it because he doesn’t want to
@@ModerationLabsalso because as many people mentioned most fire extinguishers aren't actually rated for metal fires which means in some cases it would make things worse
Although it looks chaotic I'm pretty sure it's under enough control since I'm also the kind of person who does stuff like this and goes oops that wasn't a good idea but still knows the limits of safe enough
to be concerned about, not for
"I Didnt use the fire extinguisher Cuz i Didnt want to" ...🤦♂️ Good reason💯
bro straight up created demon core 2.0 🗿
I love how you went from unhinged Nile Red satire to unhinged chemistry experiments xD
That was a Sherlock Holmes-level chemistry experiment... and that is NOT a compliment.
So you’re telling me you can’t risk to have Smoke on the Water because of this Deep Purple haze?
Underrated comment.
Genius
cute!
FUGO?!
He would have turned into Jimmy Hendrix
class D extinguishers are crazy expensive so I understand your decision here lol
that fire said nuh uh to your attempts
You need to keep a container of dry, finely ground salt around for things like this.
Yeah definitely will be from now on!
After observing the thrilling quandry that @@mrgreenguyfaced, I could safely research and learn that smothering with sodium chloride and sodium bicarbonate is the thing to do. Learned that my first impulse of using quartzy sand might be counter-productive.
@@mrgreenguyIt's only natural, salt kept the demons away
Or sand? That was the first thing I thought of
@@brandonhallam51 Sand is made of quartz, the same thing as the flask. Burning alkali metals undergo a thermite like reaction with it.
He's going to be on the news one day
more like on the newspaper, in the strictly black&white section
You had us all at demon ...
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
ah yes the switcheroo reaction. After years of chemistry i can safely say we use this often
Aren't they all switcheroo reactions?
Since he's Australian... Kangaroo reactions might be more apt a name... 😅
That was bad, and I apologize... I'll see myself out now! 😄
@@alexbouchard3880 Decomposition isn't a switcheroo. Neither is something like oxidation with oxygen, where stuff just combines without swapping anything out.
@@Ithirahad its all switcherooing electrons if you think about it.
Thats the most expensive crack pipe ive ever seen
Good to see that you got a lot more sodium metal now I saw your video along time ago when you made it so now at least it’s good to see that you have the budget to buy it 😅
Crazy man blows up the world from his shed.
I'm not certain chemistry is the most appropriate way to summon metaphysical entities.
Good to know the reaction completed without a visit from the Dark Lord though.
You haven't ingested the right chemicals, it seems. I can assure you, chemistry can help you do everything from see the face of god to open a portal to Hell. For a few hours, anyway.
They're metalphysical dæmons
The fact that you spend over a year trying to make sodium metal and then you just gloss over the fact that you have an entire jar of it now
I love watching anything with group 1 alkali metals in water, you reminded me of this when you mentioned Argon gas, as it's inert and is also used to house reactive to oxygen metals like found in group 1.
That's why reaction vessel is important of this reaction.
You definitely need to invest in a class D fire extinguisher if you’re going to be doing experiments/reactions that reach the ignition point of the metal reagents you’re using.
What for. He didn't even use the one he had.
@@Nightwing01010 Metal fires can get seriously out of control very fast.
@@Nightwing01010he didn't use it because it would be useless on a metal fire
Wow, be careful. Bro is the real life chaotic version of nilered
I never even took chemistry yet as soon as I heard what your plan was I audibly went "oh"
you know it's serious when even the glass starts reacting. EVEN MORE when inert gas like Argon speeds up the reaction
Ever since I’ve started taking chemistry I’ve gotten more and more scared for this guy’s life
I am liking this and increasing engagement so future generations know exactly what not to do and what can go horribly wrong
excellent proplem solving, cool demanor is a must with this type of chemistry; well done, young man. well done.
There's an extremely specific fire extinguisher class for metal fires, class D.
You can remember it by this mnemonic:
A: Ash (flammables that make ash)
B: Barrel (stuff from barrels)
C: Circuits (electrical)
D: Da metal.
K: Kitchen
The reason the argon was making things worse was probably not because of the argon itself, but because the gas flow was pulling in ambient air deeper inside.
I think the only way you could have injected argon was... yes, with a quartz tube shoved in the bottom of the furnace lol.
Perhaps an exhaust fan in the roof of that shed.😂
As far as UA-cam science experiment videos go, this was a major success😂
This is very scary. To do this reaction you need a steel still. Iron is fairly resistant to alkali metals. You can use calcium lithium or magnesium despite being less reactive than potassium the potassium will boil out as the metals combine with the chlorine. Can do this with sodium rubidium and cesium too. In a nutshell the thermodynamics overwhelmed the reactivity.
I was surprised how many comments I had to scroll through before I found yours mentioning the necessity of a metal still for this endeavor, was planning on stating as much myself if Noone else did but ya beat me to it lol but yeah op could easily make a steel still with brake lines and any number of steel vessels
Will this reaction really produce pure metal, like K or Na tho?
I have no experience with reaction like that. I always assumed this was a method to obtain NaK alloy.
That's exactly what we needed! NileRed with even less budget and safety😂
You should be very proud, very few chemists get some glassware looking like that 🤣 trophy right there!
When you try to improve your bong but are to fucked up to know what your actually doing.
Are you?
Sure, you're not one of those people who's getting ready to shoot their self while cleaning their gun.
Buddy tried making a bubble pipe and thought we wouldnt notice 💀😭😭😭
Thank god that your lab didnt burndown
That “lab” is a metal shed
Stil the furniture can lite on fire
The expense pf replacing the fire extinguisher is more than your lungs lol
It's more that this is an alkali metal fire and that kind of extinguisher probably wouldn't do anything-- it could even make it worse by adding oxidizer to the reaction if it's a common CO2 extinguisher and turn the furnace into a bomb
@@BetaDude40 thx for info
the extinguisher is unlikely to put out the fire in the flask no matter what kind it is
When people refer to a “mad scientist” they’re referring to you, my guy
This man is gonna create an element that takes his neighborhood off the map.
I love how chaotic this channel is 😂
Damn Mr. White! Dat new crystal is Fire! 🔥 forget about that blue stuff!
Edit: You need a Class D fire extinguisher. They are not cheap, but neither is a new house 😅
"And I can't use this fire extinguisher, because I don't want to" 😂
Ahh yes thunderf00t actually did a video about distilling alkali metals in glass. Very cool video im glad you showed this man. The sodium definitely reacted with the glass and its weird how it can continue to travel along the glass with a destructive path.
Uh.... Potassium ions react with silicon dioxide. Thats a known issue. You could probably run that reaction in a steel container as you're purifying by distillation.
Im polish so sorry if I mess up the translations, but the reaction didnt work becouse this kind of reaction requires the Na to have a smaller (more negative) potential then the K in KCl and it doesn't (V for Na=-2,710 and for K=-2,931)
It does work better that way as it's the preferred reaction, but it's a reversible reaction that can still produce potassium metal if you remove it as it's formed. Cody's lab explained it on one of his videos a while back, called "Cody's Alkali Metal converter" on UA-cam
Exactly
Funny how you’re confident the gas doesn’t hurt you after your obviously spot on assessment of doing this in first place😂
the room does not have fume chamber, perfect.
I used to think "don't use it, I might need it for something worse" but you have to ask yourself if the $20 fire extinguisher is worth more or less to both your safety and the items your working with
Stay safe and use any safety item, you have it for a reason
Molten salts are incredibly corrosive, even to substances typically resistant to corrosion.
😂 Look, you made a brand new Abstract sculpture!
I just love the chemistry side of UA-cam, these guys would blow up the world if they wanted to.
Don’t you hate it when you’re trying to make coffee but you summon a demon, it’s so annoying🙄.
Yeah, glass reacts with reactive metalls like sodium, potassium or magnesium at high enough temperatures.
You should use vacuum destillation for potassium to keep the temperature lower.
Yeah it's weird, I did some searching online to see if quartz glass is resistant, and all I remember finding was that it reacts with lithium metal, and hydroxides. I couldn't find much on Sodium or potassium at higher temperatures
@@mrgreenguyIt is not that prone to react with sodium or potassium. But already from a electrochemical pov it should reduce SiO2 to Si.
But it is totally possible to work with Na and K (And even Li) at elevated temperatures with glass. But not 1000°C.
Look at the channel Advanced Tinkering. He actually did synthesize K (and even Rb and Cs) from Li and the metal salt. But the key was always a vacuum destillation.
@@mrgreenguyyou could try and combining vacum with a more resistant glass, borosilicate glass is comonly used in labs due to its high chemical resistance, we use it at my workplace to do various redox ractions. One of our reactions litterally uses a thermite mixture as an oxidizing reagent to convert amoniumnitrate to amonia.
Although we dont use temperatures even close to what you did here.
I would definitively look up the potential viability for it.
I also would recomend using either a vacum chamber or try doing the reactio. In an innert gas chamber. Having access to excess oxygen from the air can help fuel the reaction and kickstart it to become self sustaining by eating at the oxygrn in the glass.
Its also worth mentioning that all the alkaline metals are absurdly reactive with oxygen, so you should always asume that they will try and "steal" oxygen from any available source in the area of reaction.
“After the portal to hell was closed.” Got me rolling 😂😂
Well now you have a demon in your shed ,better call a exorcist
"I can't use this fire extinguisher because I didn't want to." Fluck off.
I love how he has gone from unhinged ai Nile red to unhinged Nile red
This is a great tutorial on "how to make your neighborhood think you run a meth lab"
I could save all these people in the building with this firehose, but I chose not to... "because I didn't want to"
I like how he explained what went wrong.
"I can't use this fire extinguisher because I didn't want to"
Mood
"i could have used the fire extinguisher.. but i didn't want to"
-My daily life as everything burns around me