Horten Twin 80mm EDF German secret weapon WW2 Fighter

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • Hallo RC Fans . Our Club mate Peter finished his full composite HORTON
    Twin EDF80mm. Powered by 2x80mm fans running on 6s each side. The design is an experimental from the year 1943 by the Germans in WW2.
    Especially the model suffers from the fact that the rudder underneath the fuselage is very small which can give you a real hard time to fly this rare RC plane. Enjoy and please watch until the end since we filmed 2 flights.Let us know what you think , comment like and subscribe.
    Sorry for the blurry footage taken from a mobile phone, you still get an idea how he was fighting to not loose it.
    Ein von Peter hervorragendes seltenes Modell zur Voillendung gebracht. Es zu fliegen ist nicht nur Herausfordernd sondern wirklich nicht einfach süeziell weil das Seitenruder unter dem Rumpf sehr klein ist. Schaut auch das ganze Video an wir haben 2 Flüge gefilmt. Repekt an Peter hast du super gemeistert.
    Sorry das Video ist leider immer etwas verschwommen weil der Autofokus am Mobiltelefon nicht so richtig wollte. Viel Spass , abonniert und Daumen hoch würde uns freuen.

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  • @Airguardian
    @Airguardian 3 роки тому +10

    Love this design!
    Flying wings are tricky to adjust though!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  3 роки тому +1

      Hey thanks , yes they look amazing in the air.
      My friend did sone changes and we will do it again. There are different sizes from aerotetris foam construction I might get one 🙄😁

  • @Icarusthe2nd_RC_and_friends
    @Icarusthe2nd_RC_and_friends 3 роки тому +6

    Wow the HO-229, my favorite plane, I really wish we could buy this plane in PnP. I'm looking forward to the next flight. Greetings from Belgium!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  3 роки тому +1

      Yes we wish we could get it PNP too. I was not really interested until i saw how many really fly perfect and sucessful. There is hope aerotetris makes one in foam. Im really tempted to build one since the price is affordable and exiting to see it it flies well. Cant wait to see my friend fly his Horton again. Keep you informed.

  • @chrisbebensee334
    @chrisbebensee334 2 роки тому +3

    Very Nice! A guy named Keith Shaw who really promoted electric flight in the 80's built a Horton Twin EDF with two Astroflight .035 Cobalt motors. He did a bungee launch but once it was up the performance was pretty amazing considering it was powered with brushed motors and nicad batteries. Keith also built a number of other scale electric models including a GeeBee R1 and I think a DeHavalind Mosquito. Glad to see your plane, it looks very well engineered.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the information .- Unbelievable how many people are interested in this aircraft_ I will have another video up soon. Another friend figured some problems out and it flies perfect like Keith´s Hoten

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN 2 роки тому

    What a wild ride,,, now I want to fly a full size electric 229 commuters plane

  • @Smileyflyer
    @Smileyflyer 5 місяців тому

    Hammer Modell !!!! beim 2ten start ist mir die Pumpe gegangen!!!😨😨

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  5 місяців тому

      tja war richtig spannend.Nach Schwerpunkt Anpassung fliegt das richtig brav 😍

    • @Smileyflyer
      @Smileyflyer 5 місяців тому

      oja !!Schwanzlastige Horten sind nervig!!😁

  • @zuutlmna
    @zuutlmna 2 роки тому +2

    The concept design has, after about 90 yrs, returned (figuratively speaking) to where it originated, as a proof of concept model. It seems the German public schools were providing career-focusing "clubs" as extensions of regular curriculum. My Dad was president of his high school's radio club for the 3 of his 4 yrs. in that club. -Afterward he pursued electrical tech. and a related professional career. So I think such "clubs" are worth it. Recalling what I read about the Hortons and their school's model aircraft club, the adult mentor-director of the club related to the young club members, the greatest problem or challenges to aviation at the time, was in reducing control surfaces to absolute minimum for fuel and possible other maximum efficiencies. I think their idea won acclaim and recognition, such that a "pilotable" glider was built to test controllability and handling. The test pilots gave it low scores in that regard, with some noting that, at least as a glider, it was quite difficult! Thus the German aircraft industry lost interest in moving forward with producing full scale powered Hortons, until Germany reached the desperate circumstances of WW2 where everything had to be optimized, minimized etc.. I don't think the Hortons "copied" the idea. It's just a matter of a wing being about as far as one can go in minimizing, in order to maximize.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Thanks Carl for the explanation and detailed information. Im still suprised that so many people are interested in this unique aircraft

    • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
      @user-jf8gd3lv7q Рік тому

      Horten!!
      Come on, dude!!🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

    • @stevennagley3407
      @stevennagley3407 3 місяці тому

      It was designed to carry a nuclear payload over a set required flight range, it never actually accomplished its mission, however saying a proof of concept is a understatement

  • @KillerKev1961
    @KillerKev1961 2 роки тому

    Wonderful model of an fantastic aircraft!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      yes exactly thanks for your comment

  • @armstrongskyview2810
    @armstrongskyview2810 2 роки тому

    Beautiful plane and well flown

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Thx we have 2 guys who built one. Will upload another videos this days. Flies beautiful without any bad habbits after some CG adjustments

  • @davidmarkwort9711
    @davidmarkwort9711 2 роки тому +3

    The HO-229 was the fighter version, the bomber version had 6 jet motors and could carry a payload of around 4000 kg of bombs with a range of about 5000 km. If these planes had come earlier in the war it would have been disasterous for the Allies and Russians.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

    • @danapicray9040
      @danapicray9040 2 роки тому

      Fact, the engines had maybe a ten hour life. This would of been disastrous for a long range bomber.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      @@danapicray9040 youre right they were way to early with this concept. But still a cool aircraft

    • @davidmarkwort9711
      @davidmarkwort9711 2 роки тому

      @@danapicray9040 more like 25 hours

    • @escapednpc60
      @escapednpc60 2 роки тому +1

      @@danapicray9040 That was only because Germany lost control of the chromium mines in turkey which resulted in the inability to create better more heat resistant alloys that would have massively increased the durability of the engines.

  • @KDFRxpo2
    @KDFRxpo2 2 роки тому +1

    Did anyone notice that this aircraft was almost if not completely invisible at times during flight? This would have been a nightmare for Allied Forces if the plane got into major production. Talk about stealth! The thing just vanishes from sight!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Youre absolut right. But there was also one issue and that was that the turbines at that time were more then not realiable.But from the development perspective way ahead.

  • @michaelstegemann394
    @michaelstegemann394 Рік тому

    Sehr interessant, Danke.

  • @ckdigitaltheqof6th210
    @ckdigitaltheqof6th210 2 роки тому +2

    During the time this craft was pattem designed, it was far ahead of its time, even surpassing the early 21st century, today it could be modified to dive in water, be a bomber, a fair size cargo & passanger ratio size airline, even a rocket carrier first stage, surpassing the issue, canister chem rockets face below the kamen.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому +1

      Seems to still attract people to ask more abou tthis unique aircraft

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 2 роки тому

      ?

  • @saltyroe3179
    @saltyroe3179 2 роки тому

    Totally cool model. Pure wings at model scale suffer more from Reynolds Analogy then conventional aircraft.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Well yes but the aerodynamik was way ahead of the time. The 2nd model which was built flies extremly well i will upload the video.

  • @SGTMARSHALL1
    @SGTMARSHALL1 Рік тому

    Incredible design for its time much like the Bugatti 100p, great recreation, fuselage seems to short for stable flight, perhaps it requires some updates

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey thanks for your comment. Well its not easy to get it fly right as a model. There was quite a bit of testing with thrust angle and Center of Gravity. I also posted a second video of the designer (the white version, so no paint) Ot flies super stable. Thanks for watching the quality was not really the best. Greets Rico

    • @SGTMARSHALL1
      @SGTMARSHALL1 Рік тому

      @@TestFliteTV I appreciate the fact that you took time, money and effort to give it a go, It just seemed a shame to have such a result but I'm glad to hear you have had more success.

  • @andywells397
    @andywells397 2 роки тому

    Excellent flying skills

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Yes Peter is flying models along time. In the meantime we figured the CG and there is no hazzle with it anymore... thanks for watching

  • @pilotmiami1
    @pilotmiami1 3 роки тому

    Super.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      thx alot a new Video is coming up soon

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 Рік тому

    We should be glad the Germans did not have a couple of hundred of these things in 1943. FWIW - the plane was made of plywood over a steel center frame. Also the 30mm cannon could have fired anti tank shells.

  • @jyrrys
    @jyrrys 4 місяці тому

    I would say that it is quite unstable, the geometry of the model will probably not be suitable for stability.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  4 місяці тому +1

      It was all about the CG it is solved and flies great ypu cab see ut on the second video the white model

  • @whisthpo
    @whisthpo 2 роки тому +2

    Hello Rico & Peter. I think if Carlsberg® were making a Flying Wing, you two guys would be on their short list for test pilots! @04:42 my body started to go in the foetal position but you grabbed it back like a Champ!
    Seriously, do you think a larger scale, say 2x, 3x bigger would be easier to control?
    Having said that, I heard that the F-117 couldn't fly without it's Fly by Wire computer..
    But was amazed when I saw a scale model being flown without that luxury!
    Respect!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому +2

      Hey well bigger flies always better. In the meantime the guys really solved all the bad behavior flies like on rails. Will post a new video soon

    • @terryperrott9913
      @terryperrott9913 Рік тому

      ​@@TestFliteTVseams the CG is a bit off. It could be that the thrust line of the fans is not at the correct angle with the airfoil of the wing. If this is scratch built build one 1X bigger wich would make it fly better & wouldn't be so touchy ( squrly) to fly.

  • @kannah4394
    @kannah4394 2 роки тому

    Interesting

  • @georgechristoforou991
    @georgechristoforou991 2 роки тому

    Not sure if this Horten 299 had the correct washout at the wing tips. This would increase stability a lot. The Horten's understood flyinh wing design better than anyone at the time. NASA has recently rediscovered the concept of (PRANDTL wing concept) proverse yaw. Those who have reproduced the Horten often overlook the changing angle of attack from root to wing tip.

    • @stevennagley3407
      @stevennagley3407 Рік тому

      I agree, he needs to re work dihedral and wash out from root to tip cord

  • @BoysOfCinnamonCat
    @BoysOfCinnamonCat 3 роки тому

    Very cool model! 💥🔥

    • @jetfan0815
      @jetfan0815 3 роки тому +1

      Thx you all members on our field were really exited to see it fly

    • @BoysOfCinnamonCat
      @BoysOfCinnamonCat 3 роки тому

      @@jetfan0815 😊👍

  • @aandscrawfoski
    @aandscrawfoski Рік тому

    Hello there , how much is the kit and air frame please?
    Thanks
    From Andrew

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  Рік тому

      Hey there its full composite and I can supply pics if you want. Pls mail to testflitetv@gmail.com so Ocan send ypu details thx

  • @gbro8822
    @gbro8822 2 роки тому

    Great job, new sub from northern Indiana.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Thx alot you got a sub too

    • @gbro8822
      @gbro8822 2 роки тому

      @@TestFliteTV Thank you, I haven't made a video in years, lol and probably won't.

  • @davidbohner692
    @davidbohner692 2 роки тому

    Talk about a plane that needs a gyro, this one definitely!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      well I would say yes but that would make it alot easier.Check the 2nd video the white prototype flies eörellay nice

  • @michaelhallas6450
    @michaelhallas6450 2 роки тому

    Is the HORTON a hand built model or a full kit that you bought.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Its a full.molded versiön and one kit is available for sale

  • @wilhelmschulz9298
    @wilhelmschulz9298 2 роки тому

    Can you share who is producing the kit?

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Hey a friend of us and there is one kit available.Its around 1100$ plus shipoing.Let me know if youre interested.To.make things clear this is a very complex kit and not for beginmers 😁

  • @Melvorgazh
    @Melvorgazh 2 роки тому

    Pretty wooden bird 😽

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому +1

      quite a challenge to fly but after some adjustments the whute one flew very good on the other Video 😁

    • @Melvorgazh
      @Melvorgazh 2 роки тому

      @@TestFliteTV Oh, Enrico that sound!
      I generally like plane.
      Especially special planes.
      I shall watch them.
      Me I am just making a little hot air balloon in tissue paper.
      It takes a lot of time but it’s fun.
      Thomas from Belgium

  • @jerrypadilla4384
    @jerrypadilla4384 2 роки тому

    As the "Stealth Fighter" of its day, it would have terrified the British radar operators, if the Germans had fielded such a craft, a little earlier. By the time they could have detected it, with the RADAR equipment of the day, the planes would have been in strike range, clearing the way, for more conventional prop planes, of the day.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      I see this development way ahead of that times. Still the engines gave alot of problems , which didnt male them very reliable

  • @RfrSSWolf
    @RfrSSWolf 2 роки тому

    How I Get One Like Yours?

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Hey write to me on testflitetv@gmail.com greets Rico

  • @michaelcap9550
    @michaelcap9550 2 роки тому

    The original Horton 18 had 6 engines.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      wow really didnt know that.Any link available for that ?

  • @vietdragon5610
    @vietdragon5610 3 роки тому

    nice but not sell on amazon damn i really one to pick up one

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  3 роки тому

      well i guess there wont ne many sold after this video... haha

  • @user-jg3cz7oo3b
    @user-jg3cz7oo3b 6 місяців тому

    Hi, is it possible to share the drawing? 😊

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  6 місяців тому

      Hey sorry I dont think so.I just know it was built from a wood kit and after that a mold was done.I can ask for the wood kit info if you want.I also have a composite kit available to sell.

    • @user-jg3cz7oo3b
      @user-jg3cz7oo3b 6 місяців тому

      @@TestFliteTV ok, pls let me know more

  • @joshill8134
    @joshill8134 2 роки тому

    stealth fighter-bomber..2 turbojet Junkers Jumo 004 B ... Cannons 2 MK 108 caliber 30 mm ... Max speed 1 000 km / h at 6 100 m ... in the queue swastika sign...

  • @flfun1684
    @flfun1684 2 роки тому

    Is this a kit or scratch built?

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Hey a ful composite kit but still some work. Sometimes they make 3 to 5 of them in groups. the kit is around 1k. greet Rico

    • @flfun1684
      @flfun1684 2 роки тому

      @@TestFliteTV Could this be made in into a jet powered kit maybe?

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      @@flfun1684 Yes im sure you could do that. You might choose the Xicoy miniature turbines since the diameter is limited . You also need to make sure to have the right tailpipes to get the heat safly out of the fuse.

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 2 роки тому

    I think it's spelled "Horten"

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Yes thanks will change that

    • @Snobiker13
      @Snobiker13 2 роки тому

      Horton's design is also quite interesting, but very different from that one.

  • @pressloh
    @pressloh 2 роки тому

    Interessante Flügelsteuerung, hab ich so nie gesehen.
    Sie flog extrem unruhig, vielleicht sind 50% weniger Ausschlag und 65% Expo besser ???
    So wie bei mir eingestellt,
    ua-cam.com/video/FkpskHuqJYE/v-deo.html
    Fliegergruß 🤩

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Hallo danke für deinen Input wor haben inzwischen vieles oprimiert ubd fliegt jetzt wie am 2.Video allerdings in weiss also anderes Modell.Danke dir für dein Video

  • @obey2dmax
    @obey2dmax 2 роки тому

    In reality Stealth Bomber /B 2 is some clone of Horten.

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      Thats how L see it also.Its so amazing to see how early they cane up with that conceot oth the flying wing.

    • @obey2dmax
      @obey2dmax 2 роки тому

      @@TestFliteTV Germany was way ahead of its time when it comes with Aircraft Technology / Engineering and Rocket Science. Very fascinating.

  • @minhuzuddinrobi4614
    @minhuzuddinrobi4614 2 роки тому

    you ar plinnc ditel me

  • @deepscuba7384
    @deepscuba7384 Рік тому

    In flight video was really bad. Hope you don't do this for a living.

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 2 роки тому

    Fighter, not bomber.

  • @saromarcarian4709
    @saromarcarian4709 2 роки тому

    Fix your audio levels. :/

  • @IshijimaKairo
    @IshijimaKairo 2 роки тому

    Horten*

  • @BrianJ001
    @BrianJ001 2 роки тому

    camera work is awful!

    • @TestFliteTV
      @TestFliteTV  2 роки тому

      youre absolut right.I like your channel by the way 😁😁

  • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
    @user-jf8gd3lv7q Рік тому

    "Horton"...
    🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤣🤣