Simon Jordan CLASHES With Jim White Over Whether Arsenal Have BOTTLED It This Season 😱🔥
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- Simon Jordan, Jim White and Danny Murphy discuss Arsenal's trip to Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarter-finals.
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Chelsea fan here, but the amount of stick Arsenal are getting is ridiculous. They've spent the last 10 year struggling to get top 4, and now after a few years of pressure, Arteta has built a solid team that has consistently challenged for the Premier League against 2 very tough sides. They're a point behind City! It's not like they've imploded and lost a bunch of games at the end of the season. Liverpool fall short every year and never get labelled as bottlers. Media narrative is pathetic!! Even if Arsenl finish 2nd, it's still an impressive season for them!
It’s true that Liverpool get nowhere near the same amount of criticism as Arsenal, but I think it’s because they’ve actually been winning trophies and Arteta still has that one FA Cup. Until Arsenal win a big trophy again like the Premier League or Champions League, we’re always going to be subjected to overly harsh criticism.
@@nickxcore74plus the media hates Arsenal. Liverpool have always been much more respected as loads of pundits either played for Liverpool or grew up when they were dominant.
And yet people claim spurs bottled a championship in a year they were never top?
The media give the people what they want, it’s clickbait at its finest.
They know that if they put the words Arsenal and bottlers in a headline the public will eat it up. It’s the silly fans I feel for, so blinded by their hatred that they don’t see how easily manipulated they are. Be far more interesting if they used their brains and came up with a sensible observation we could debate
Respekt (Mourinho voice) 😂
it's quite refreshing to hear a level headed simon jordan tbh
He always is though, it's just that you disagree with some of the things he says. Which is OK. But disagreeing with someone doesn't mean that they are not level headed.
Another emotional arsenal fan that cries whenever he hears a hint of criticism
@@harryn1602 smells mid-table of you 🤣
Acting like Danny is not speaking sense too 😅 get off simons d*ck
@@kevinlarsen709 what? Bearing in mind you don't know who I support, I will assume you're just getting confused by the smell of another trophyless season in North London 🤡
Simon has more flip flops than a Haviana store
And I've been to Brazil LOL
No
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Havaiana
He literally says the opposite of the click bait title 🤣
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They had to change the title lol
The title doesn’t say who thinks what, just that they disagree
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Paid actors
Jordan is talksports best asset by far
I can't believe I am hearing this repeatedly. Six games left, 18 points to play for, and only a two points difference and some people are saying the title race is a forgone conclusion. I am a City fan and by no means this is over.
Correct, but City is known for being ruthless and focused at the back end of seasons.
Well said... So much hysteria when one of the top 3 have dropped points recently....
Woolwich Bottles. Perennial nearly team. Hahaha. Woolwich Bottlejobs. Lego head won nothing last year or this…. It’s funny but Tottenham win nothing either so which is worse probably Chelsea for being doped
Come on though of your remaining fixtures at worst you’ll draw with spurs and that’s a big maybe meanwhile Arsenal have got to go away to Spurs United and still gotta play Chelsea meanwhile injury ravaged Liverpool have got relegation battling Everton and spurs and Villa the title is done
@@alexcarter6680yeah city have won this
He's changed his tone😂
before they lost to villa he said if they lose it would mean they are not who he thought they were.... now he see them as bottlers 😂😂
Keown called him out last week and put him in his place over his double standards.
@imgettingold9407 he said the opposite tho
@@40yearoldvirgil15 he’s just read the misleading “headline”
until tomorrow
I've seen some stupid reporting on Talksport but this takes the prize. Embarrassing
Didnt he say we’re going to win the league last week?
He did... and he said he would be proved wrong if they lost to villa since he could not see them losing that match. Now that they have lost to villa he has seen the light
Yeah then you went and lost to villa at home😂
@@joshpowell4795there’s definitely a link between saying something stupid and liking your own comments. You’re either under 15 or an idiot.
Food for thought 🤔
Simon and Danny are some of biggest critics of Arsenal over the years. But this is an objective view and take from both. Big up to these 2
What's with the Max Headroom sound glitching? Bad audio and clickbait titles, Talksport are a bit of a mess at the moment.
@joewhite22.....TalkSPORT is a total mess to be truthful - but what do you expect with the standard of 'pundits' they have?
Great comments, that's what I call quality.
Simon Jordan: TalkSport treasure 😂😂
Exactly most controversial pundit
"Talkbollox" never lets you down.
you can't compare Klopp's 5 yrs to Arteta's. This is Arteta's first job. Klopp been a manager for eons. He has waay more experience. Arteta is still leaning and is becoming better.
First job and learning? Given 650m+ to spend.......not bad for an apprentice. Arteta isn't a winner. Seen the evidence of that in 4 trophyless years
You can’t keep giving the excuse tht it’s his first job in management he’s been in football for years. There is a long list of mangers who have won things in there first few years in management. A like arteta but with the amount of money he’s spent he needs to be winning trophies imo.
@@lukealex6428they won fa Cup lol
Xabi Alonzo won the bundesliga after 18 months after getting the job in 18th place spending a fraction of what Bayern spent , Xavi won La liga in his first season managing in Europe, Jose won the league within his first 3 seasons, same as AVB. See the difference between them and Arteta?
@@troy8613 both are managers in football at european level but can not be compared
If bottling it is competing for the Premier League and getting into the last eight of the C/L then as an Arsenal fan I'd take that. We have been derisory over the last decade, so absolutely lovely to see us eating at the top table.
Always the bridesmaid, never the bride
@@lukealex6428that’s liverpool
@lukealex6428 Go look up who's got the record amount of FA Cups and who's won more league titles more than the entire Southern England combined
Rather that than the ugly sister😂
Same, “bottled” is overused tbh, just thrown around to get people stirred up.
I dont think Arsenal can be labelled anything other than a work in progress until we see where they peak, at the moment they arent quite at the very top, but they've improved in every metric on last season, which is clear progress.
But what exactly did Arsenal do wrong to deserve this hate? Liverpool literally were 5 points clear of everyone until Arsenal went on an unbeaten streak before Villa.
No one talks about Liverpool losing to Palace. It's all about Arsenal.
Crazy.
Arsenal's fans talk too much.
I saw some comments about FEELING LONEY AT THE TOP of the table.
Liverpool bottled it mate.
@@luckyndlovu2926 bS
@@luckyndlovu2926so you never saw a liverpool fan say that?? every fanbase has them come on
Did that Arsenal fan seriously say Ollie Watkins is better than Harry Kane? 😂
good call
That's the level of football knowledge you get from an arsenal fan. Low.
Come on Timmy! Come on! You can do it!
Jim absolutely does not hope that we go through.
Spot on
Always respected Simon not always everyone of his opinions but always how he says what he means and he means what he says
When you are competing with city it's so difficult to win I think arteta is doing a fantastic job I'm LFC but it's almost impossible to win the league at the moment
It's not city havent even been the same city this season either nd Leicester managed to win it with a shitter team and all arsenal do is make excuses every seaosn 3 seasons in a row they bottled something becoming there trait now
Looking at what Arsenal has done with one of the youngest sides in the league is truly commendable. Arsenal is in a much better position compared to their usual rivals (Spurs, Chelsea, Man U), thanks to Arteta. Losing one game or not winning the league should not shadow what Arteta has done with this young group of players.
Yeah cuz being young matters
He's touched them all up
You don't get the excuse of "we have young players" when Arteta signed and wanted those young players.
To label any team “Bottlers” is confirmation you don’t have an original thought in your head and can’t think for yourself.
This trend now of calling any team that loses bottlers is ridiculous! What makes the premier league the best league in the world is that from top to bottom it’s competitive, any team can beat any one! Each week it’s, klopp has bottled it, Arteta has bottled it, it’s a 3 way fight, which can only be won by 1 team. Finishing 2nd or 3rd isn’t bottling it, it’s just after 38 games they haven’t been the best ! And Jim calling arsenal bottlers for losing against villa, villa are a top class team ! Just because they’re not traditionally classed as the original top 6 they don’t get credit! It’s snobbery from people like Jim who think it’s a so called big teams right to beat everyone else in the league.
Burnley and sheff United haven’t won 5 games between them ffs 😂
@Matthewpaul13 Agreed. There is too much immaturity and tribalism in punditry and commentary these days. Now, with that being said, do make sure to give us that match when we meet on Saturday. Cheers!!
I wouldn’t call them bottlers, but they do crack under pressure when it comes to the business end of the season. History has proved this to be the case, it started near the end of Wenger’s tenure.
@@nickxcore74 Agreed. However, it has been two years in a row now, so hopefully it won’t stretch to three. Who else has Chelsea, United, and Rottenham all in their remaining fixtures?! Rough way to go.
@@philanderphillips2309Yeah, it’s been rough and finishing runners up two years in a row will be pretty brutal for us. We can get a result in Munich, but every player needs to put in a top performance and try to forget about the disappointment of Sunday against Villa.
Fact is Arsenal had it all in their own hands before Palace, now they do not.
Genius.
Talksport as original as ever
@ 05:02 Simon "They're gonna be forever, what ever they do bottlers", utter nonsense, when we start winning things, that bottling jibe is soon distached. No one is saying Bayern NeverKusen this season.
@@Franatomy I had it on in the background, so if that's the case I retract it against Simon, though we did bottle it last season and look nervy again this season just at the clinching part the season. So to loose the bottlers Tag, just win things and that will self cut the string that attaches the 'Bottlers' tag to us.
"Look mum, your money was well spent on my Media degree, I write "Clashes" in every title"
Am i watching the same video. He literally says the opposite of the headline!!
Everything is open, all the discussion will find an end, when the game starts.
It’s funny how NO ONE mentions Man Utd having an 8 point lead with 6 games to go and BOTTLED IT but not once even when it happened did ANYONE say they BOTTLED IT and that’s up to this day,who bottles it more than SPURSY COYG❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Staying in the competition we will cross the line , stay positive and patient we will win major trophies
We so need arteta to spend up to 1 billion soon. The media and fans will give him so much pressure, it will be the best entertainment.
Arsenal need a clinical finisher upfront not only for the goals but more importantly to show Saka ans Jesus to be more clinical.
The title is so misleading 🙄
Simon Jordan is a hypocrite 😂😂
Liverpool were 10 points clear and now are 3rd. Why isn’t anyone saying they bottled it?
Cause they bloody have a brand new midfield this season smh nobody had Liverpool to be challenging at the beginning of the season. Its funny that arsenal fans call out everybody but nobody can call you lot out 😂
If you lot say your rivals bottled it against Leicester when they never was top of the league then arsenal has bottled it even worse cause you guys was actually first last year and this year smh hypocrisy & changing narratives is real in football 😂
they've not been 10pts clear, 5 at the most. arsenal were 5pts clear at Christmas ...then dropped 10 pts. Liverpool had over 11 first team players out injured since Christmas... i'm amazed they're still 2pts off the top. only lost 3 games, same as city
When has anyone at any stage this season been 10 points clear?
James on the beers again
Judge Arsenal at the end of the season or when they get to play Villa’s second team like City did.
As an arsenal fan id say it depends on the result tonight and sunday before we can answer that
JIM WITH HIS SPURSY HAT ON,calling us bottlers CLASSIC SPURSY!!!!
At 3:35 it sounds like Murphy let’s one RIP
A arsenal v city semi would be something special, let's hope it happens
Exciting young manager, exciting young team. Good football, challenging the elite, deep European runs.... is this Arteta's Arsenal or Pochettino's Tottenham. Will it all have the same outcome. Probably
0 points against Villa?
Get used to it.
4 points against City? Such bottlers...
Simon Jordan moaning about the media is amazing irony
Losing the league only to City will never be failure. City operate on a different level, a level that no other team can, in the world. Being second to city in the league is arguably as good as you can hope and expect to be.
It doesn’t show they can do it when it really matters
The South African cricket team are labelled as chokers. As a South African and as much as it hurts, the tag is suitable. Bottlers, chokers, perennials, whatever you want to call it, Arsenal are the proteas of football. And just like us, they should accept the tag and celebrate it, if and when they do overcome their tag
5 comments and 3 are spam, madness
haha what a load of waffle - The level of engagement and enthusiasm in this community is infectious. It's like being swept up in a wave of intellectual fervor.
I wasn't commenting on the quality of the dialogue, I agree with you completely.
Sack him tonight arteta out
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Arteta needs to take Cups more seriously. We have been disappointing in them. But as Man City seem set to walk another league, over 38 games it takes near perfection to win PL once Pep remains
Arteta doing exactly what wenger was forced to leave the club for.. bare minimum, just top 4 and being pretenders
Wenger wasn't in a title race or the CL quarters in 10 years....what are you talking about? 😂😂
Sure bare minimum is finishing second in the league to an incredible Man City side baring in mind no one else competed with them last season. Don’t be senseless just because you are a hater.
@@romelleking7426no he made a final and was robbed your lucky to even get past Porto you pleb
@@mpproductions2770neither did arsenal it was a 1 horse race all seaosn and they blew it still somehow they've bottled something 3 seasons in a row now first was 4th then the league after leading it all year to only bottle it and do r it again this season and you would have been knocked out if Porto won the pens and yet he gets knocked out of every cup comp every season aswel
First defeat this year did liverpool not beat them in the fa cup??
Arsenal bottled the season last year, this year I don’t think they were ever going to win the league
I didn’t, because the squad isn’t good enough in my opinion. Plus I still think that these players crack under pressure in the crucial last stretch of the season.
The season is not over yet. There is going to be more twist and turn till then.
Come on Timmy you can do this !!
Bottling is really for individual sports as golf.
Imagine bottling it THAT much that youre 2 points behind Man City with 6 games left... and last 8 of the Champions League....
Ohhh how i wish i was a Spurs fan instead...
It's bottling it when you capitulate every year down the stretch.
So apart from 1 season that would mean Liverpool are bottlers?
@@slimbo689 when did LFC drop points in 5 straight games?
Media stiring things up. We are happy with Arteta. Playing much better and competing again. Late Wenger years and Emery years were very hard to watch. Let us be happy where we are, and we will support the team and manager to push on.
Wow Jordon saying good things about arsenal
Why the statement of unbeaten in 2024 used for Arsenal that often? It's just PL. They were defeated in FA Cup as well as champions league match against Porto which shows they are a side very much vulnerable to get defeated in crucial matches.
Liverpool were 5 points clear earlier this year no one has said they’ve bottled it
Liverpool was 10 points ahead, but nobody is talking about how they have bottled it, its only about how Arsenal, who never had a single point lead bottled it, that's so funny.
Great journalism, everyone who doesn’t win the league against the best club / manager in PL history is a bottler!
Long way to go beofew they're the best pl ever some of there titles could get striped Liverpool on 19 utd on 20 city nowhere near that number don't be silly
@@willtallis5275 do you know what PL stands for?
@@user-mt9gb5lz4m yes I was saying pep has loads more titles to win before he comes the best in history in the pl and city have a lot to win to catch up to the Liverpool and United and there number of league titles but arsenal being top last season all that time and not winning is unforgivable and then to start to fall away this season again after bottling 4th to spurs 3 seasons ago your making it a trait now
@@willtallis5275 oh I didn’t realise Liverpool had won 19 Premier Leagues.
@@user-mt9gb5lz4m they haven’t but city are still miles away United have 13 pl so again they are still behind if pep gets more than 13 pl titles then yes he would be the best in history of the pl but right now he’s not there yet
It's like people arent seeing that pep's city are breaking records here there and everywhere. This arsenal/liverpool team are winning in any era prior to pep
Where the "clash" ??
Holy cow I couldnt get through this mess of commentary. Arsenal strengthened in all positions that they were lacking last season, everyone said its their year to prove themselves in EPL and UCL, and now that they have bottled both, suddenly its fine? Piss off with that soft approach. Cause when Liverpool ''bottled'' the league in 2018/19 with 97 freaking points they had to hear about it until the mid of 2019/20 season. Are they a good team? Yes. But they have room to improve, is all.
This aged well
Rich is a real fan.
We bottled the top 4
We bottled the title
We bottled the CL
We are making great progress as bottlers 😂
jim cooked that fan i can't lie
Bottling it is harsh I'd say chockers just the nerves I can see arsenal lifting there first trophy soon then wait for the avalanche
Emery is the best manager in the PL
Its funny how the term bottling is now being used consistently as soon as arsenal are in a title race wasnt around for any other team who have nearly won everything liverpool comes to mind out of the 3 chances they had they did it once not having a go at liverpool im js
Until last week Arsenal were saying they will win the league, now its team in progress😂😂
The definition of bottling it would be if Arsenal were to win the league against City who are the treble winners and greatest team we’ve seen. Bottling it is when you have all the tools, credentials and the history of doing it but then you slip up to a team that employed your assistant coach in his first job & bought two of your players in Jesus and Zinchenko(who sucks)
Get it right.
Agreed re Watkins is better than Kane. Well said Jamie. Kane is now an immobile English Oak… and by the stats, Ollie literally is: double figure G & A
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I’m a Villa fan… *clears throat*
🎤 Champions of Europe, you’ll never sing that!!! 🎤
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Arsenal fan here lasts year we 100% bottled it but ! But this year it’s close between three teams .
Liverpool were 10 points ahead after EVERY TOP 3 team played 23 games. Now with 6 games left they are 2 points behind Man City so HOW TF have Arsenal bottled it. The aston villa game YES Arteta bottled that, reverting to pre dubai tactics (havertz midfield, jesus up front) that PROVED did not work
4 points against City; 4 points against Liverpool; scored the most goals, conceded the least… 0 points v ASTON VILLA, F0 A3 😂😂😂… Havertz cost them the first goal, airy fairy; and White cost them the game in Munich by weak defending.
All top 3 jobs available in the summer.
You think if city didn’t have an off year and Liverpool didn’t win the league, would he questioned like Arteta would be. He was challenging city with as close to a generational great squad as you can get, can you say the same about this Arsenal side. It’s good but not near those Liverpool teams klopps didn’t manage to win the pl with in my eyes.
Simon Jordan deserves much respect and very right on Arsenal's progression and the negativity of others against the team. But Jim White and The Other failure Danny Murphy are true haters no matter what they say..
How’s that humble pie, PREMFACE!
I don't agree with Simon's analysis of Arsenal last season at all... we lost the season in the FA Cup round facing Man City... Arteta put out a far weakened side which ended up getting beat and compounded the 'we can't beat Man City trope'... that defeat damaged us psychologically, which then fed into 'Arsenal never win at Liverpool trope' game... then teams started to work out how to play and beat Arsenal...people forget it took teams almost all season to get to grips with Arsenal's new tactics... the run of bad games also happened at the same time Ramsdale and his partner lost their baby... this season, we are much improved, but teams are improving on their tactics.... had Arsenal put their chances away in the 2 Villa games this season.. it would have been very very different games... but dems the breaks!!
It is starting to feel that Arteta has got the most possible from this team as it is. Maybe we do need a striker and replace 1 or 2 other players. We will see, the season is not over yet, but I dont see us winning the league, CL or a lot of trophies with the team as it stands. I hope I'm wrong.
Most of the team are fine. We are seriously lacking an out an out goal scorer. It’s the one difference we need. I love Jesus and I lover Havertz but it’s time to face facts. Anyways the season is not over. COYG’s!
Arsenal are coming up against the greatest coach in history and one of the greatest teams. Arsenal have shown they can beat City but they haven't shown they have the same consistency or mentality, yet!
First defeat this year, Jim: ''Sounds like bottling''
You know you’re well off it when even Simon Jordan, Daniel Levy’s mate is making the case for how good Arsenal are and aren’t ‘bottling it’. Please try to keep up Jim.
Yes they have! 😂
I’ve no animosity towards Arsenal, but they do have a history of bottling it in recent times under Arteta. They bottled top 4 in 21/22; they bottled the title last year; and they seemingly bottled the Champions League and the title last week against Villa, which wasn’t their first loss of 2024 - they, of course, bottled it against Liverpool in the FA Cup in January.
We bottled it during the season when Leicester City won the Premier League as well.
There is a difference between bottling something and not being good enough.
Missing out on top 4 was due to injuries to key players. The squad wasn't good enough.
Coming 2nd last season was again largely down to injuries to key players. Again the squad wasn't good enough.
Losing last week to the 4th best team in the league has nothing to do with bottling it. That's just what can happen in a competitive league.
I get it's fun to label teams as bottlers though
@@nickxcore74 actually, I don't think you did bottle it against Leicester, none of us did. They were runaway champions and none of us could get near them. It was just their year, a freak one off of a season, nobody was taking it from them.
History of "bottling"... what utter tosh!
You're talking absolute bo!!ox.
So every time we lose we bottle it? Strange this measurement isnt applied to all teams
Liverpool are the greatest bottlers and no one ever talks about them like that
Complete anyone reading this your struggling has ended, with king life you are blessed, mercy ,Favour and grace will always follow you,Amen.❤
Arsenal fans, look Im a liverpool fan, you should vehemently reject this bottling label. Look your team is building a young successful club, the results your getting is way ahead of your time.
The makeup of this Arsenal team is not like City or Madrid or Bayern. Arsenal still needs to find their feet and learn how to get over the line.
For all the Liverpool fans lurking. If Arteta suddenly became available to replace Klopp, what you saying?