Jim Cornette is a once-in-a-lifetime wrestling personality. You either love him or hate him, but you have to respect his accomplishments and contributions to the business. Corny's not for everybody, he likes what he likes, but at least he's going to explain in extraordinary detail why he hates something or why it's good and makes sense. Corny's unfiltered, in-your-face, colorful, and uncensored most of the time, and I've been a fan of his since the early 80's. Love listening to his show on a daily basis.
In an interview Cornette did he said the reason he freaked out in Halifax was because he was wanting an explanation as to why they were burying their new babyface The Patriot ( Del Wilkes), and all Dunn wanted to talk about was the Sable T-Shirt. So, BANG, ZOOM, SHIT.
The way Corny tells of the “ Screw Job”, it wasn’t that he masterminded it. After pitching every idea they had at both guys, and both guys rejecting every idea, out of frustration, annoyance , and exhaustion, he ( in a very offhand way) just put out there “ just do a double cross”. I don’t think he ever meant for the idea to be taken seriously, and he didn’t like the idea. The man himself said he left the arena as soon as he found what was going on.
corny was a classic wrestling guy who wrote wrestling, and vince russo isnt a wrestling guy who wrote wrestling. they couldnt be more at odds with each other
@@gregmcardle4307 Well we'll see. If there's no response or only an incoherent response then I've debunked Andre's point. If he can come up with specific examples then we take the debate to the next round.
Was he or was he not part of the poking committee of mid 90ies wwf? So while he was we had „gems“ like mantaur, sparky plug, the dumpster. If he would not be such an unbelievably divisive, bitter fuck these days one could say „yeah everybody makes mistakes“
he said that he was asking on why are we doing this to a superstar when he recently come in?"multiple times in that meeting in nova scotia and on the last attempt according to Corny kevin dunn told him that
Kevin Dunn wanted to bury The Patriot (Del Wilkes) and Cornette thought this was a ridiculous thing to do when the company was lacking a proper lead babyface (Bret had gone heel, Shawn had gone heel, Austin was at best an anti-hero). Dunn kept on trying to change the subject and dodge the issue.
@@raymondrembert6870 Thats BS Steve Austin and The Rock's talents would still shine with or without Bucky Beaver or Shit stain. The WWF would still be taken to new heights with those 2 and their talent roster.
Vince Mac would rather have guys kiss his ass... J.R. was comfortable (which he earned with blood, sweat, and tears) and Vince's ego could NOT have that... Vince loves having a scripted role in real life too.
An offshoot of wrestling from the Japanese strong style with the occasional actual shoot intermixed could be bigger than WWF/E ever has been. You'd need a new breed of competitors, that currently don't exist these days, and a sharp creative team, but it could possibly be pulled off.
1:45 JR: "I was in a lot of those meetings don't get me wrong, but it wasn't my day to day gig, uh, I was commercial cuts in: "I was sexually assaulted as a child"
The 'Bucky Beaver' outburst stemmed from Cornette wanting better ideas for The Patriot while most of the room waffled on about a Sable t-shirt spot. I don't think Patriot fit where the WWF was going but I'd certainly be annoyed if the highest priority for the flagship show was Sable stripping off.
I don't think Cornette has ever taken credit for the Montreal Screwjob, although he may have had a hand in how it worked out. He ultimately had no idea what the finish was going to be until it happened. Obviously Vince is the one who can take credit for what happened. But yeah, I don't think Cornette has ever outright taken credit for it.
Cornette attacked Dunn during that meeting because he kept talking about Sable's t-shirt spot and refused to discuss the matches at all. Then when Cornette started to get annoyed about it Kevin Dunn said he found Cornette "tiring"
When Cornette tells the story about his outburst at Kevin Dunn. He said everyone was laughing and thought he was joking accept JR. JR telling the story it doesn't sound like the people in the room were too amused or thought it was a joke.
That was actually a really good impression of Cornette! I don’t think it should have surprised anyone about him. He’s passionate but he lacks perspective or restraint; and at times he’s too stuck in his ways.
because every dofus collectively decided to make the product dumber, make less money and draw less people & fame than ever before. and they did it willingly.
its not a gimmick you turdball, its who he is. contrary to what you 15 year old kids think, the old personalities of wrestling are who they portrayed themselves to be.
If you hate him it's bc he is a great heel, I love Jim cornette. Not alot of people can do a better promo then Jim cornette. Not to mention he makes him self look absolutely silly just for our laughs lmao 😂. I'll never forget the cornette and Jose Lothario segments. When Lothario punched him one time the next night they did a in ring promo and cornette said " I'm watching you, don't try to pull that switch blade out again " 😂😂😂 I remember laughing for days just bc of that dumbass sentence .
100% agree w/ JR, if Russo and JC could just find a Balanced way to work together and get along, My God! What Great storylines/matches and shows we could have experiened.
Of course Cornette pitched it. An old school double cross? Vince, Russo or Bruce wouldn't even know what that meant It wasn't the Moolah-Richter BS, it was what we saw at Montreal. Cornette could rhyme off every time it happened. The others wouldn't have come up with it
I used to listen to Cornette. And even though our taste in Wrestling is probably similar, his personality is way out their in nutty land. He seems to take any and every disagreement extremely personal. In a childish manner as if it's life and death. Probably the last video of Cornette that I listened to he was cursing everybody that supported Trump. That's a shame to. Cuase when it comes to Wrestling he seems to be pretty smart.
Is JR ever happy? He always comes across as the grumpiest guy around. I know some things in life haven't gone too well for the guy, but he needs to find a way to be happier for his own health and well being!
Who's J.J.? And how much was Vince planning on paying him that he quit? It sucks for these guys that WCW (or any other big league wrestling promotion) closed its doors... when these guys lose their jobs, they have no place to go. It's sad to think these WWE employees probably celebrated taking down other promotions... when it was their Lifeblood.
Everything ive seen and read about Cornette. He as had issues with a "Corporate Structure", he either cannt or wont play nice with other people. It seems whether it was NWA/WCW, WWF, OVW, TNA. He has to realize sometimes, there are people that are smarter and more creative than you. Basic Philosophy in life. You would think at his age he would have figured it out by now.
There may be plenty of people smarter and more creative than you, me or Cornette. I think the issue is the more "corporate" a place is, the less likely you're going to encounter a ton of those people. I worked at companies before where I wondered how the CEO's or COO's were able to tie their shoes in the morning before they left the house. I think Cornette's big issue is he steadfastly believes the old territory model is the best way to run a wrestling company. In most of those situations there were not a ton of middle-men to muddy the waters in creative and one person was basically directing the ship. Even the "booking committee" he was on in WCW was a compromise I don't think he, or JR for that matter, works well in the long run.
jim ross really loves moaning these days doesnt he.. literally never a good word to say about anyone, he's so different from what his tv personality was.. such a shame
@Rondough Howell they are both doing better than Smokey mountain wrestling ever did. Because even in the 90’s, Jim cornette was an out of touch dinosaur.
Your right. Thou I'd say 1986 instead of 85'. & as a fellow dinosaur, i'd be lying if I said I did'nt really miss those day too (more diversity in the product & how it was presented to fans, more options as far as the different promotions around the country)..It's true what they say..."The world belongs to the youth". lol
One of the things that makes me really not like Jim Cornette is that when anything goes wrong, he has a million excuses for why it's everyone's fault but his. It just seems like wherever he shows up, not long after the company isn't doing too well. He showed up in WWF in 1993, just in time for the New Age, and not long after leaving, the attitude era starts. He shows up in ROH, a year later, all of ROH's talent is gone and the product is in the dumpster. Everywhere he goes, disaster follows, with a trail of excuses along the way. And you know, maybe it's not all his fault, but he does seem to just bring the worst out of people. I can't imagine working with Jim Cornette would be the healthiest work environment for anyone.
That's quite unfair. WWF was already on the slide by 1993. Also he didn't leave when the attitude era started. He was there untill 1999 in one capacity or another at which point the attitude era was over a year old. He then ran OVW. Which produced lots of people who would end up on the roster and become big stars. ROH he was not the booker. Delerious was the booker Jim he was pretty much the producer. For some reason ROH fans kept assuming he was writing the show when he wasn't. And when he was taken off camera as the authority figure. Suddenly the fans thought ROH was great again even though the creative team was exactly the same. Not that he is perfect. He is really too high strung to be in a leadership position. Most of us when we work for a company put up with things we don't like, he can't do that. But I think a lot of the criticism people throw his way is really unfair.
He was only a manager in '93, a great heel manager at that. He was actually in the office for most of the attitude era, on creative during one of their boom periods, not exactly a shit resume. He played a big part in the training of john cena, randy orton, brock lesnar and batista in ovw. His roh wasnt bad either.
Ironic isn't it? He blames Russo for 'destroying companies' and not getting anybody over (archbishop of talentbury), when in fact all of that can be attributed to Cornette. First there was SMW, then look at the WWF midcard and tag team division in 1995-1997, then look at it when Russo replaced him in creative. Night and day. Cornette was also completely against the creative direction in TNA when the viewership was increasing each year, and ultimately surpassed 2 million viewers in 2010-2011. It's like the guy is allergic to ratings.
@@LordJuzzie And thats another thing I love. He thinks he SO smart about wrestling because OVW did well. Like of course that was gonna do well, it had the WWF machine behind it, scouting out some of the best talent of a generation. It wasn't Jim Cornette "discovering" this great talent, it was JR, Bruce Prichard and Gerald Briscoe with WWF/E's budget going around the country scouting these guys out of college. When you have some of the greatest prospects of a generation handed to you to work with, OF COURSE you're gonna do well. Especially considering he was working in the south, where it's REALLY EASY to get a pop, he could have got a pop with a couple of fat guys punching each other for half an hour, let alone with John Cena and Brock Lesnar. Delirious was basically just signing off on Jim Cornettes stuff, and was his assistant by the time of the Sinclair deal. But even before that, you could obviously see Cornette's influence on the stories of that time period, the silly, confusing "pick 6" concept, trying to get Colt Cabana to be more serious, and the magical way that like a year later half the roster was off working for WWE. He basically turned ROH into OVW2. But of course, ROH's sudden downturn wasn't his fault, it's never Jim Cornette's fault if you ask him. He was in charge, the buck stopped with him, and yet somehow nothing was his fault. I'm sure if a good idea had come out of that time period, he would have taken credit for it though.
Cornette was a horrible writer. Ratings showed, buy rates showed and that is why Vince McMahon picked Vince Russo over Cornette. Cornette was a good manager, but he was horrible at mostly everything else he tried. He also has the same politcal, religion and history knowledge as a 5th grader atheist.
I don’t think that just because someone has different beliefs that you, that it makes them some kind of person with a elementary school education. If you’re that tied to your beliefs that it colors the way you see people, then that’s on you. There’s more to life than politics and religion.
Rabbi Menachem Molochai Mendel Schneerson It’s a sketch comedy show. I don’t think the name is meant as a statement on anything. What are you even talking about actually? That made no sense.
Cornette has made more money in the wrestling business than the majority of us ever will and still is like him or not and he was one of the best heel managers ever people came to the matches wanting to beat him up
Jim Cornette is a once-in-a-lifetime wrestling personality. You either love him or hate him, but you have to respect his accomplishments and contributions to the business. Corny's not for everybody, he likes what he likes, but at least he's going to explain in extraordinary detail why he hates something or why it's good and makes sense. Corny's unfiltered, in-your-face, colorful, and uncensored most of the time, and I've been a fan of his since the early 80's. Love listening to his show on a daily basis.
his encyclopedic knowledge of wrestling history is unparalleled also
If you hate him, you're falling for it. He's an awesome heel.
Only trump cultists hate him.
Can't stand his hypocrisy or his listeners. But I can't deny he knows a great deal about wrestling history.
I’m not being snarky but I’m asking, what are those accomplishments and contributions?
JR’s Corny impression was really funny...
Pissed myself mate
Bruce and JR should have a “Corn off.”
Choked on my smoke
When JR mock Jim Cornette I spit my drink all over my desk laughing so hard....Bucky Beaver!😂😂😂😂😂
Sounded just like bruce
Im still laughing
I went back 8 times
@Tony Starks: Besides Jim Ross, Bruce Prichard can do an fantastic Jim Cornette impersonation as well.
The most unexpected thing of all time!! I am dead
In an interview Cornette did he said the reason he freaked out in Halifax was because he was wanting an explanation as to why they were burying their new babyface The Patriot ( Del Wilkes), and all Dunn wanted to talk about was the Sable T-Shirt. So, BANG, ZOOM, SHIT.
3:55 destroyed me. I laughed so hard, I almost broke a rib.
😂😂😂😂
The way Corny tells of the “ Screw Job”, it wasn’t that he masterminded it. After pitching every idea they had at both guys, and both guys rejecting every idea, out of frustration, annoyance , and exhaustion, he ( in a very offhand way) just put out there “ just do a double cross”. I don’t think he ever meant for the idea to be taken seriously, and he didn’t like the idea. The man himself said he left the arena as soon as he found what was going on.
Yeah, I think he's even said something like "The one time they listened to me... "
he also said Earl Hepner made it out before he did!
@@metalthrashingnerdpodcast9864 Said Earl Hepner was right behind him
corny was a classic wrestling guy who wrote wrestling, and vince russo isnt a wrestling guy who wrote wrestling. they couldnt be more at odds with each other
Only if one of them could be a black lesbian nun
They messed up letting those 2 work on the same things together, that's when you delegate shit cause clearly jim hated/hates that guy
3:57 JR IMPRESSION OF JIM CORNETTE!!!!
Love cornette. Great how he calls out all the crap in wrestling now for both wwe and aew
Too bad he is responsible for some of the worst shit of the first half of the 90ies.
@@MrKahlerHahn which specific shit?
Kurt Van Der Bogarde if you even get a response it’ll be garbage.
@@gregmcardle4307 Well we'll see. If there's no response or only an incoherent response then I've debunked Andre's point. If he can come up with specific examples then we take the debate to the next round.
Was he or was he not part of the poking committee of mid 90ies wwf? So while he was we had „gems“ like mantaur, sparky plug, the dumpster.
If he would not be such an unbelievably divisive, bitter fuck these days one could say „yeah everybody makes mistakes“
JR imitating Cornette is hillarious!
Its beyond hilarious lol
I love this. I’ve heard this story from corny, Prichard and jr. It’s great. Jim Ross and Bruce’s impressions of corny are great
Jr doing a Cornette impression just made my day!! 😅
According to Corny, what Kevin Dunn said to him was, "Jim, I find you tiresome". I'd probably have gotten annoyed too.
he said that he was asking on why are we doing this to a superstar when he recently come in?"multiple times in that meeting in nova scotia and on the last attempt according to Corny kevin dunn told him that
yeah, because Corny wanted to talk about wrestling, and everyone wanted to talk about the fuckin Sable tshirt spot.
Kevin Dunn wanted to bury The Patriot (Del Wilkes) and Cornette thought this was a ridiculous thing to do when the company was lacking a proper lead babyface (Bret had gone heel, Shawn had gone heel, Austin was at best an anti-hero). Dunn kept on trying to change the subject and dodge the issue.
He is tiresome
@@TL2354 yes Kevin Dunn is tiresome and he's in denial about being in the wrestling business
Love his Cornette impressions 😂
I used to respect Cornette until Russo turned him into his personal doormat.
The industry would have been a far better place without Russo and Dunn ever being in it. We needed more like Ross, Dillon & Cornette
Well we'd have ended up with WCW is what woulda happened.
Wrestling would never have been to the heights it was without Russo or Dunn.
@@raymondrembert6870 Thats BS Steve Austin and The Rock's talents would still shine with or without Bucky Beaver or Shit stain. The WWF would still be taken to new heights with those 2 and their talent roster.
Vince Mac would rather have guys kiss his ass... J.R. was comfortable (which he earned with blood, sweat, and tears) and Vince's ego could NOT have that... Vince loves having a scripted role in real life too.
I love JR’s Cornette impressions!
Still waiting for jim, JR, and Paul E to get together and start their own wrestling program...
Corny is LOVED by the OG’s hated by the new modern era i believe
A guy like Corny is whats missing from today but at the same time I dont think it would work. I think wrestling had its golden age and its over.
An equivalent of wrestling needs to grow from MMA for it to survive ..
@@user-li3fr8jl3b how do you mean? You want the guys to truly wrestle? I'm not saying you're wrong i just don't get what you mean
An offshoot of wrestling from the Japanese strong style with the occasional actual shoot intermixed could be bigger than WWF/E ever has been. You'd need a new breed of competitors, that currently don't exist these days, and a sharp creative team, but it could possibly be pulled off.
i love when JR mocks Cornette "Bucky Beaver MF'er!!" !! I lost it!! Couldn't stop laughing!!!
1:45 JR: "I was in a lot of those meetings don't get me wrong, but it wasn't my day to day gig, uh, I was
commercial cuts in: "I was sexually assaulted as a child"
Thats exactly where i ws when i read this ironically
Cornette’s story of the outburst plus JRs admission that he has a fear of flying makes me think I’d have done what Corny did too
I love Jim Cornette’s stuff but he is wound up about as tight as someone can be.
He's definitely an indoor cat.
The 'Bucky Beaver' outburst stemmed from Cornette wanting better ideas for The Patriot while most of the room waffled on about a Sable t-shirt spot. I don't think Patriot fit where the WWF was going but I'd certainly be annoyed if the highest priority for the flagship show was Sable stripping off.
Picturing the scenario with Jim and Dunn the way JR described it is hilarious
Damn that impression is better than bruce
"Cheeseburger Eddie needs to put on some weight.. become a double cheeseburger" corny lol
I don't think Cornette has ever taken credit for the Montreal Screwjob, although he may have had a hand in how it worked out. He ultimately had no idea what the finish was going to be until it happened. Obviously Vince is the one who can take credit for what happened. But yeah, I don't think Cornette has ever outright taken credit for it.
I was today years old when I found out Corny was involved in the Montreal Screw Job. Holy crap. Learn something new every day.
He's talked about it on his podcast and was in the Dark Side of the Ring episode how'd you miss it lol
@@akeminakajima449 I know, right? 😂 I just got caught up and watched it. And, as usual, Russo 'Bro' 😂😂😂 taking credit for it. Worthless.
Cornette attacked Dunn during that meeting because he kept talking about Sable's t-shirt spot and refused to discuss the matches at all. Then when Cornette started to get annoyed about it Kevin Dunn said he found Cornette "tiring"
When Cornette tells the story about his outburst at Kevin Dunn. He said everyone was laughing and thought he was joking accept JR. JR telling the story it doesn't sound like the people in the room were too amused or thought it was a joke.
He would have a heart attack if he worked in WWE Creatove today 🤣😂
ross your cornette voice is legendary.
Everytime I hear Conrad, I always think it's Bruce Prichard.
He said he found Jim cornette tiresome that's what Kevin Dunn said so Jim cornette at every right to cut a promo on kevin Dunn
Jim Ross’ Corny impression is guts 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
Never would've though JR could do a great Corny impersonation 🤣
That was actually a really good impression of Cornette!
I don’t think it should have surprised anyone about him. He’s passionate but he lacks perspective or restraint; and at times he’s too stuck in his ways.
The Cornette impression is fucking gold!!! ☠️🤣🤣
Poor Jim, he never adapted to the change of wrestling. He sounds so flustered every time he talks how it went from pro wrestling to entertainment
because every dofus collectively decided to make the product dumber, make less money and draw less people & fame than ever before. and they did it willingly.
Rewatch Godzilla 1998, Kevin Dunn has credits.
Jim Ross’ Cornette impression sounds like he’s impersonating Bruce Prichard’s Corny impression 😂
Cornette is awesome hall of fame great mind in wrestling.
Nope he's terrible
Cornette lives his gimmick. I think he must drop it when he isn't around wrestling, but I don't know. I saw the video of him at Dairy Queen.
its not a gimmick you turdball, its who he is. contrary to what you 15 year old kids think, the old personalities of wrestling are who they portrayed themselves to be.
Ain't no gimmick, he's just like that, most of the best guys in wrestling are just an exaggerated version of themselves
3:53
JRs Cornette impression kills me every time
Fear of flying had nothing to do with cornette telling Dunn the truth and Jim Ross knows that
Everytime someone does a cornette impression they always give him a high pitches girly voice
He’s as emotional as any woman you’ve ever seen.
And you think it's inaccurate?
3:55 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
When is the vice Jim Cornette episode?
Jim was supposed to have suggested it to Vince the screwjob but Triple H supposed said it out loud
2020 and the audio on these clips is still horrible. Fix the popping and cracking, goddam.
If you hate him it's bc he is a great heel, I love Jim cornette. Not alot of people can do a better promo then Jim cornette. Not to mention he makes him self look absolutely silly just for our laughs lmao 😂. I'll never forget the cornette and Jose Lothario segments. When Lothario punched him one time the next night they did a in ring promo and cornette said " I'm watching you, don't try to pull that switch blade out again " 😂😂😂 I remember laughing for days just bc of that dumbass sentence .
100% agree w/ JR, if Russo and JC could just find a Balanced way to work together and get along, My God! What Great storylines/matches and shows we could have experiened.
They couldnt be more different in their personalities and visions for how a wrestling program should be booked and produced though.
We actually got great storylines and shows when Cornette was booted off creative
@@jordan_8329 true that.
@@pmfg11 whatever would we have done without that Mark Henry and Mae West angle?
@@jordan_8329 Russo was gone by that time.
I can believe Cornette put the idea of a double cross into Vince's head but he wasn't involved it what that entailed.
Next upturn in wrestling is when Dunn leaves after Vince dies. Hunter would bring in better people
Well....
Tss I bet his work with JJ was Dy-No-Mite or sumptin'
Of course Cornette pitched it. An old school double cross? Vince, Russo or Bruce wouldn't even know what that meant It wasn't the Moolah-Richter BS, it was what we saw at Montreal. Cornette could rhyme off every time it happened. The others wouldn't have come up with it
Jim Cornette is The Legend. Corny ftw
JR's Corny sounds just like Bruce Pritchard's Corny 😂
Vince Russo did more to break wrestling than anyone else.
Jim Cornette passion for the businessis genuine. Look what the Russo's and and Dunn's of world did to wreastling today it sucks!!
Vince Russo must have done so me good, it can’t be all bad
Jim might be a bit bipolar as he seems to have multiple mood swings.
I used to listen to Cornette. And even though our taste in Wrestling is probably similar, his personality is way out their in nutty land. He seems to take any and every disagreement extremely personal. In a childish manner as if it's life and death. Probably the last video of Cornette that I listened to he was cursing everybody that supported Trump. That's a shame to. Cuase when it comes to Wrestling he seems to be pretty smart.
Yeah, when he did that he exposed himself to be as dumb about things outside the world of wrestling as he thought Russo was about wrestling.
Support of Trump or Biden is stupid by anyone in general. Both parties are dumbasses
Conrad or Brian
chat me up
Is JR ever happy? He always comes across as the grumpiest guy around. I know some things in life haven't gone too well for the guy, but he needs to find a way to be happier for his own health and well being!
@Hasil Atkins he said JR
@Hasil Atkins oh I get it lol sorry
@Hasil Atkins Corny's real gimmick nowadays is pretending to be an uber liberal
Didn't his wife die in a car crash a few months ago?
That's just JRs way of speaking, his cadence...I dont find him grumpy
Who's J.J.? And how much was Vince planning on paying him that he quit? It sucks for these guys that WCW (or any other big league wrestling promotion) closed its doors... when these guys lose their jobs, they have no place to go. It's sad to think these WWE employees probably celebrated taking down other promotions... when it was their Lifeblood.
Everything ive seen and read about Cornette. He as had issues with a "Corporate Structure", he either cannt or wont play nice with other people. It seems whether it was NWA/WCW, WWF, OVW, TNA. He has to realize sometimes, there are people that are smarter and more creative than you. Basic Philosophy in life. You would think at his age he would have figured it out by now.
There may be plenty of people smarter and more creative than you, me or Cornette. I think the issue is the more "corporate" a place is, the less likely you're going to encounter a ton of those people. I worked at companies before where I wondered how the CEO's or COO's were able to tie their shoes in the morning before they left the house. I think Cornette's big issue is he steadfastly believes the old territory model is the best way to run a wrestling company. In most of those situations there were not a ton of middle-men to muddy the waters in creative and one person was basically directing the ship. Even the "booking committee" he was on in WCW was a compromise I don't think he, or JR for that matter, works well in the long run.
3:50
JR was far too kind to the kind to the person that authorized/created the gimmick of his stooge making fun/light of JR's physical issues (Russo).
Wrestling needs cornette on TV
JR couldve been a politician lol
what steroids do i need to take to look like 1996 shawn michaels
Estrogen
All of them
It sounds like Corny doesn't work well with others.
Popping audio.
Jim Cornette may need some medication .
Shit.
We are decades too late on that.
I've met less volatile grenades.
So JR claims Russo watched wrestling before getting his payday? Lol right. Simp is just wanting a few more bucks by pretending he is neutral
Lol championships don’t mean shit now sadly.
jim ross really loves moaning these days doesnt he.. literally never a good word to say about anyone, he's so different from what his tv personality was.. such a shame
I feel bad for JR trying to be the voice of reason around Cornette, a God-hating leftist.
Can’t hate something that isn’t real.
Why should Cornettes political opinions matter one bit? He's a wrestling booker, not running for senate.
Cornette is a dinosaur who despises anything that happened in wrestling after 1985
@Rondough Howell they are both doing better than Smokey mountain wrestling ever did. Because even in the 90’s, Jim cornette was an out of touch dinosaur.
Your right. Thou I'd say 1986 instead of 85'. & as a fellow dinosaur, i'd be lying if I said I did'nt really miss those day too (more diversity in the product & how it was presented to fans, more options as far as the different promotions around the country)..It's true what they say..."The world belongs to the youth". lol
One of the things that makes me really not like Jim Cornette is that when anything goes wrong, he has a million excuses for why it's everyone's fault but his.
It just seems like wherever he shows up, not long after the company isn't doing too well. He showed up in WWF in 1993, just in time for the New Age, and not long after leaving, the attitude era starts. He shows up in ROH, a year later, all of ROH's talent is gone and the product is in the dumpster. Everywhere he goes, disaster follows, with a trail of excuses along the way.
And you know, maybe it's not all his fault, but he does seem to just bring the worst out of people. I can't imagine working with Jim Cornette would be the healthiest work environment for anyone.
sounded like Cornette left WWF because he hated living in Connecticut even more than his problems with Russo. His Russo hate built up over time.
That's quite unfair. WWF was already on the slide by 1993. Also he didn't leave when the attitude era started. He was there untill 1999 in one capacity or another at which point the attitude era was over a year old.
He then ran OVW. Which produced lots of people who would end up on the roster and become big stars.
ROH he was not the booker. Delerious was the booker Jim he was pretty much the producer. For some reason ROH fans kept assuming he was writing the show when he wasn't. And when he was taken off camera as the authority figure. Suddenly the fans thought ROH was great again even though the creative team was exactly the same.
Not that he is perfect. He is really too high strung to be in a leadership position. Most of us when we work for a company put up with things we don't like, he can't do that.
But I think a lot of the criticism people throw his way is really unfair.
He was only a manager in '93, a great heel manager at that. He was actually in the office for most of the attitude era, on creative during one of their boom periods, not exactly a shit resume. He played a big part in the training of john cena, randy orton, brock lesnar and batista in ovw. His roh wasnt bad either.
Ironic isn't it?
He blames Russo for 'destroying companies' and not getting anybody over (archbishop of talentbury), when in fact all of that can be attributed to Cornette. First there was SMW, then look at the WWF midcard and tag team division in 1995-1997, then look at it when Russo replaced him in creative. Night and day.
Cornette was also completely against the creative direction in TNA when the viewership was increasing each year, and ultimately surpassed 2 million viewers in 2010-2011. It's like the guy is allergic to ratings.
@@LordJuzzie And thats another thing I love. He thinks he SO smart about wrestling because OVW did well. Like of course that was gonna do well, it had the WWF machine behind it, scouting out some of the best talent of a generation. It wasn't Jim Cornette "discovering" this great talent, it was JR, Bruce Prichard and Gerald Briscoe with WWF/E's budget going around the country scouting these guys out of college. When you have some of the greatest prospects of a generation handed to you to work with, OF COURSE you're gonna do well. Especially considering he was working in the south, where it's REALLY EASY to get a pop, he could have got a pop with a couple of fat guys punching each other for half an hour, let alone with John Cena and Brock Lesnar.
Delirious was basically just signing off on Jim Cornettes stuff, and was his assistant by the time of the Sinclair deal. But even before that, you could obviously see Cornette's influence on the stories of that time period, the silly, confusing "pick 6" concept, trying to get Colt Cabana to be more serious, and the magical way that like a year later half the roster was off working for WWE. He basically turned ROH into OVW2.
But of course, ROH's sudden downturn wasn't his fault, it's never Jim Cornette's fault if you ask him. He was in charge, the buck stopped with him, and yet somehow nothing was his fault. I'm sure if a good idea had come out of that time period, he would have taken credit for it though.
Both Jim's are extremely bitter..
Cornette was a horrible writer. Ratings showed, buy rates showed and that is why Vince McMahon picked Vince Russo over Cornette. Cornette was a good manager, but he was horrible at mostly everything else he tried. He also has the same politcal, religion and history knowledge as a 5th grader atheist.
I don’t think that just because someone has different beliefs that you, that it makes them some kind of person with a elementary school education. If you’re that tied to your beliefs that it colors the way you see people, then that’s on you. There’s more to life than politics and religion.
@@Imsosorrytrash But you are subscribed to Whitest Kids U Know making fun of white people?
Rabbi Menachem Molochai Mendel Schneerson It’s a sketch comedy show. I don’t think the name is meant as a statement on anything. What are you even talking about actually? That made no sense.
Cornette has made more money in the wrestling business than the majority of us ever will and still is like him or not and he was one of the best heel managers ever people came to the matches wanting to beat him up
His take on politics and religion are far more astute than yours.
Corny is the fucking best!
Russo is the worst in the business ever!!
Jim Cornette ìs not afraid to speak what is on his mind. If you never heard of his rants it is ŵoŕth
Seeing.