you mentioned this is a counter matchup, but during laning phase it seems like you always had the upper hand on fizz. was it that you were more punishing and he was making more mistakes/not jumping on you more? in my head it seems like it could go either way because you can counter his mobility with your w and you can also get away with your own r, but he does have more dmg. is it a counter matchup more during mid game when he’s got an item or two and in sidelines? or something else?
I was under the impression that the matchup is in lissandras favor. Lis R counters fiz r. She has a nice escape tool for when fiz goes in. And for when she wants to fight the root is based on closeness and fiz has to get close to do stuff. She also does nice poke damage which fiz doesn’t really do. I could be wrong but that’s how I thought of it.
Lissandra isnt fizz counter. she cant stop his e. the only way she can counter him is self ulting and thats it. pre lvl 6 is liss favoured but after fizz is wining against you. so even tho he is assasin she have advantage only for a short time
I have been building horizon focus as second item on her since march and Its way better than shadowflame tho. all your abilities actually activate passive
I used to clean house with DH lissandra. It was fun if nothing else build liandrys and zhonyas and get the drop on the whole team then the exploding clones prock dark harvest on repeat. Maybe ludens is better for that but try it make a vid. It’ll pop off.
@@chad6060 no. My primary runes are Arcane Comet, Manaflow, Transcendence, Gathering Storm. I want her to scale because late game she sucks with the damage.
I still think Lissandra should have a buff - nerf on Ultimate and Passive! There are high mobility comps that can avoid the passive's damage! When they nerfed her HP scaling they left her pretty weak against quick rotation champions. Let's hope the New Items give her that boost she really needs!
@@danibi1827buffing ulti initial damage seems like a risky move because it is already a point and click lockdown, adding a lot of damage to it would be just disgusting to play against and the rest of her kit would lose a lot of power to compensate making her even more ulti reliant than she already is
@@trolltroll4557 I don't know why people keep saying that LIss' ult is broken if we add more damage when Karthus can one-click to ult the entire enemy team with great damage; Brand can one-click to remove half of the enemy team's hp in most team fights with support budget; Neeko's ult can solo kill multiple targets and keep her invincible; Zed and Nafiri also point and click on super short CD like 20 seconds (with no tradeoff for damage)... With so much mobility and dash creep, it feels like 1/3 of champs can just dash away from the ice zombies
@@trolltroll4557 I don't know why people keep saying that LIss' ult is broken if we add more damage when Karthus can one-click to ult the entire enemy team with great damage; Brand can one-click to remove half of the enemy team's hp in most team fights with support budget; Neeko's ult zone is so big you don't need point and click to deal so much damage and be invincible longer than LIss; Zed and Nafiri also work by point and click on super short CD like 20 seconds (with no tradeoff for damage). They don't need any cc to solo kill consistently. With so much mobility and dash creep, it feels like 1/3 of champs can just dash away from the ice zombies. Even 'ez' matchups like Yone can doge or shorten LIss ult to oblivion. If they don't want to give liss more base damage, maybe adding another 0.5-1 seconds on her ult will help...
todays years old finding out you can use smite on enemies to slow them???????????? is this in the small letters and i just never payed attention or? anyway love a lissandra game specially with this skin
they are underestimaing her w and q dmg. since she is short range(not really due q extended range but yeah) they think she deals no dmg. but suddenly they die getting oneshoted with e,w,q,r combo. so many players are just too confident against her and getting punished super fast when she hit them with q dealing 400 dmg
Ну заголовок видео пиздежный, даже в дамажущей сборке 1 на 1 того же физза за прокаст забрать не мог, только с помощью других. И только в конце с огромным преимуществом наш стример смог 1 на 1 убить физза. Лиссандра крутой чемп, но явно не то, что хотел показать автор видео. Кроме того чел ещё регулярно не отмечал вражеские варды на карте, чем усложнял другим игру
Hey Italians welcome to the next commentary, today we're making fish lasagna.
Sounds nice but I don’t like bechamel with fish in general :/ I think i’d waste the fish in all honesty, but I’ve never tried it. I’ll let you know
😊@@nicolapodgornik6644
If the fish is blue and pasta sheets are made of true ice it enhances the flavour, making a truly delightful dish.
Mamma mia, cant wait to eat it
Bandito dall'Italia come i Savoia
as a liss main i have been waiting years to be fed thank u lord 🙏😭
You seen rav's vid of her as support? It was 👍
As someone thinking about becoming a liss main whats your thoughts is it worth it
@@Vergil-f9s10/10 worth it oneshotting squishies + ur cc is immaculate
@@Vergil-f9sNo
I love how bel'veth keeps doing the goofy e swings after the nexus explodes
hey everybody welcome to the next commentary today we are playing some lissandra mid lane versus a fizz
umm have not done a lissandra video in a long time I feel like
But lissandra is a champion that is pretty good against divers
Uhh... She has good CC, she has a way to basically Zhonya's hourglass herself with her ultimate
And um she isn’t really the best laner
But her scaling is quite good because her ap ratios are not that bad, so.
Rarely played champ with a pretty cool kit
i got fired today.
Edit: Update, I got a new job.
Rip bozo
That sucks, rip
😂
One door closes another opens my man
Skill issue
That skin makes it look like you're permanently exhausted :D Great vid as always!
11:03 frozen dudes on the ground
A really op addition to this build after death cap is Mandate, it makes her and your teammates do a lot more damage
Waited so long for this today!!
Not in a bad way, just happy it's here :D
I tried this champ yesterday and it was really good, I was 5/0 but I didn't have a shutdown because my jungle was 0/5... we lost that game
What do you suggest building now on Liss in 2024?
you mentioned this is a counter matchup, but during laning phase it seems like you always had the upper hand on fizz. was it that you were more punishing and he was making more mistakes/not jumping on you more? in my head it seems like it could go either way because you can counter his mobility with your w and you can also get away with your own r, but he does have more dmg. is it a counter matchup more during mid game when he’s got an item or two and in sidelines? or something else?
I was under the impression that the matchup is in lissandras favor. Lis R counters fiz r. She has a nice escape tool for when fiz goes in. And for when she wants to fight the root is based on closeness and fiz has to get close to do stuff. She also does nice poke damage which fiz doesn’t really do.
I could be wrong but that’s how I thought of it.
When I said counter-matchup I meant I counter him haha
@@PekinWoofoop i misunderstood then! ty!
Lissandra isnt fizz counter. she cant stop his e. the only way she can counter him is self ulting and thats it. pre lvl 6 is liss favoured but after fizz is wining against you. so even tho he is assasin she have advantage only for a short time
divine sunderer is going to the shadow realm and pekin hasn't yet played lissandra bruiser with divine sunderer and black cleaver
What in Runeterra is bro cookin 🔥🔥🔥
She’s always been a strong pick for me, i think s14 will be good with more AP on items and malevolence and stormbringer
great vid would love more lissandra or zyra mid ☻
Electrocute/ eyeball collection + gathering storm is a lot stronger if you want to play her as a true burst mage. Still, you did well.
I’m eating some cheese on toast for breakfast and this smoked cheese is pretty nice
Any chance you could make a video on how to play mage champions into Irelia? lol ik its specific, I just always struggle
PLANS WITHIN PLANS
So early it feels illegal lmfao. Ily Pekin
I have been building horizon focus as second item on her since march and Its way better than shadowflame tho. all your abilities actually activate passive
I used to clean house with DH lissandra. It was fun if nothing else build liandrys and zhonyas and get the drop on the whole team then the exploding clones prock dark harvest on repeat. Maybe ludens is better for that but try it make a vid. It’ll pop off.
I like to take Demolish for lane pressure and Overgrowth just so assassins can’t one shot me.
aftershock liss jumpscare
@@chad6060 no. My primary runes are Arcane Comet, Manaflow, Transcendence, Gathering Storm. I want her to scale because late game she sucks with the damage.
More MAGES gameplay pls
I still think Lissandra should have a buff - nerf on Ultimate and Passive! There are high mobility comps that can avoid the passive's damage!
When they nerfed her HP scaling they left her pretty weak against quick rotation champions.
Let's hope the New Items give her that boost she really needs!
Liss is one of the best anti mobility champs with her w and ult. I doubt they care about buffing her passive against dashes.
@@rileycorrigan5593 I agree! However, I meant to nerf the passive and buff ultimate flat damage. It is poor at best.
@@danibi1827buffing ulti initial damage seems like a risky move because it is already a point and click lockdown, adding a lot of damage to it would be just disgusting to play against and the rest of her kit would lose a lot of power to compensate making her even more ulti reliant than she already is
@@trolltroll4557 I don't know why people keep saying that LIss' ult is broken if we add more damage when Karthus can one-click to ult the entire enemy team with great damage; Brand can one-click to remove half of the enemy team's hp in most team fights with support budget; Neeko's ult can solo kill multiple targets and keep her invincible; Zed and Nafiri also point and click on super short CD like 20 seconds (with no tradeoff for damage)...
With so much mobility and dash creep, it feels like 1/3 of champs can just dash away from the ice zombies
@@trolltroll4557 I don't know why people keep saying that LIss' ult is broken if we add more damage when Karthus can one-click to ult the entire enemy team with great damage; Brand can one-click to remove half of the enemy team's hp in most team fights with support budget; Neeko's ult zone is so big you don't need point and click to deal so much damage and be invincible longer than LIss; Zed and Nafiri also work by point and click on super short CD like 20 seconds (with no tradeoff for damage). They don't need any cc to solo kill consistently.
With so much mobility and dash creep, it feels like 1/3 of champs can just dash away from the ice zombies. Even 'ez' matchups like Yone can doge or shorten LIss ult to oblivion. If they don't want to give liss more base damage, maybe adding another 0.5-1 seconds on her ult will help...
That ashe was pretty pog
The supports were really doing it this game.
More Lissandra gameplay please!
YAY LISSANDRA ❤❤❤
Ayo was that fizz’s summoner name literally just fizz?
LISSANDRA!!
Yay new video
thanks for the videos
liss damages early are so weak compared to different mages :(
maybe you could try her on the PBE with the new ult item?
2:40 flash q w e combo and kill (200k points )
I love better Electrocute runes with her
All hail the algorithm!
Surely he goes lives right??
Lissandra is so cool and underrated
does this mean you'll play Anivia mid now?
A good Loss game! How about a Vlad one day?
Icy! ❄
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todays years old finding out you can use smite on enemies to slow them???????????? is this in the small letters and i just never payed attention or?
anyway love a lissandra game specially with this skin
fish
comment for support
Nice vid
ice mommy
why do people think liss is weak, champ is so strong
they are underestimaing her w and q dmg. since she is short range(not really due q extended range but yeah) they think she deals no dmg. but suddenly they die getting oneshoted with e,w,q,r combo. so many players are just too confident against her and getting punished super fast when she hit them with q dealing 400 dmg
day 3 of asking pekin to upload an aphelios game because i use his videos to get better at league and i main the lunari twink
Ok
3 minute squad
Holy I'm early
Ну заголовок видео пиздежный, даже в дамажущей сборке 1 на 1 того же физза за прокаст забрать не мог, только с помощью других. И только в конце с огромным преимуществом наш стример смог 1 на 1 убить физза. Лиссандра крутой чемп, но явно не то, что хотел показать автор видео.
Кроме того чел ещё регулярно не отмечал вражеские варды на карте, чем усложнял другим игру