MASSIVE VIEWER SUMMONS! Over 1200+ Pulls For Nilou & Navia (Genshin Impact)

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @Xlice
    @Xlice  3 місяці тому +195

    SURELY THE LUCK WILL STAY FOR NATLAN... (please)

    • @MORAX7945
      @MORAX7945 3 місяці тому +3

      Sending you my luck for natlan 👍✨

    • @yelinnphyo
      @yelinnphyo 3 місяці тому +2

      Surely.

    • @zoneunder3417
      @zoneunder3417 3 місяці тому

      Is c6 4 stars really all that hard? It’s the rate up and I feel like xlice was just unlucky lol

    • @VeliaOwO
      @VeliaOwO 3 місяці тому +6

      @@zoneunder3417 nope, I spent 180 pulls for a 4 star in Starrail AND DIDN‘T GET HER. The 4 star was Xueyi and she was rate-up… So yeah, just getting ONE single copy of a 4 star can be impossible if you’re unlucky 🥲 And now imagine trying to C6
      Edit: Oh and I forgot to mention, but Xlice‘s Kaveh pulls seemed pretty average/lucky in my opinion!

    • @poopi1237
      @poopi1237 3 місяці тому

      My luck is already gone since i got nilou and her signature👍👍👍👍

  • @marshall8573
    @marshall8573 3 місяці тому +860

    i was the c2 nilou & c6 kaveh account!! thank you so much xlice for everything you do for your viewers, youre such a great person :)

    • @Doctor_Faust17
      @Doctor_Faust17 3 місяці тому +87

      My friend, I respect your commitment to Kaveh. I fear you and your luck🫡

    • @marshall8573
      @marshall8573 3 місяці тому +61

      @@Doctor_Faust17 wouldve been luckier if i got tighnari😞.. but THANK YOU!! my entire heart and soul is dedicated to him

    • @snowsanta7
      @snowsanta7 3 місяці тому +8

      Why didn't you just go for Navia 😭

    • @marshall8573
      @marshall8573 3 місяці тому +68

      @@snowsanta7 as much as i didnt want nilou, i know she would be more beneficial for kaveh than navia would! so for the chance that i got more 5* during this pulling session (which did happen), it would boost my kaveh ^_^

    • @abigailbarber9806
      @abigailbarber9806 3 місяці тому +8

      Pls give me your Nilou luck 🍀

  • @StimuluusChecks
    @StimuluusChecks 3 місяці тому +293

    Little do they know getting Navia wasnt the hardest part. It was farming for her artifacts..

    • @danielvillanueva9822
      @danielvillanueva9822 3 місяці тому +18

      fr, the healing bonus artifact with it annoys me sm and it appears more than the other

    • @HonchoGaming4
      @HonchoGaming4 3 місяці тому +6

      i prefarmed everything for her i even got some decent artifacts but lost my 5050 to dendro bow guy :(

    • @Stuckinthebooks
      @Stuckinthebooks 3 місяці тому +17

      @@HonchoGaming4 Not Tighnari being “dendro bow guy” LOL

    • @CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETOLIE
      @CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETOLIE 3 місяці тому

      Nah the hardest part is collecting padisaras on Nilou. Good luck remembering how to switch aranara world to real world. And then struggling thru caves.

    • @munianajim8781
      @munianajim8781 3 місяці тому

      yes

  • @BasilLeaf_
    @BasilLeaf_ 3 місяці тому +110

    Account 4 is based. I respect that dedication

  • @SaneSampoSimp
    @SaneSampoSimp 3 місяці тому +120

    Seeing these Kaveh pulls as a Kaveh main who hasn't gotten a single Kaveh from this banner is truly my defeat... I have nothing...
    Edit: Account 4... KAVEHHHHHHHHH

    • @marshall8573
      @marshall8573 3 місяці тому +5

      @@SaneSampoSimp IM ACCOUNT 4 IM SO SORRY I HOPE U GET KAVEH

    • @SaneSampoSimp
      @SaneSampoSimp 3 місяці тому +2

      @marshall8573 HOPEFULLY, 0 PRIMOS AND JUST A C1... May the event primos clutch 5 more copies for me- HUHUHU

    • @itscoldsweat
      @itscoldsweat 3 місяці тому +2

      bro i wish i could give you my kavehs, I got 5 kaveh constellations but I just refused to activate them

    • @dottiesboy
      @dottiesboy 3 місяці тому +1

      i got my kaveh on this banner but on his first banner i spent +100 pulls and i couldn't get him 😭 i was so saddd

    • @Tartagliachildeajaxxa
      @Tartagliachildeajaxxa 2 місяці тому

      My friend got c6 kaveh trying to get a nilou..

  • @TheKeksmuzh
    @TheKeksmuzh 3 місяці тому +35

    First puller also got their first Fav Sword, basically a 5* by itself.

  • @reubensandwich5456
    @reubensandwich5456 3 місяці тому +76

    As someone that never won a 50/50 with over 200 days played and 1600 hours this gave me depression

    • @danielvillanueva9822
      @danielvillanueva9822 3 місяці тому +9

      keep pushing bro. i never won 50/50s been playing for 7 months. navia broke my streak and i even won the weapon 🙏🏻

    • @ilostzoroagain
      @ilostzoroagain 3 місяці тому +3

      I've been playing since begging of January and havent lost a single 50/50 yet.. I'm sorry for stealing your luck

    • @ileven289
      @ileven289 3 місяці тому +9

      Been playing for 2 years, only won 50/50 once😀

    • @justinh2264
      @justinh2264 3 місяці тому +1

      Same I lost 7 50/50 in a row

    • @kaletastesbad
      @kaletastesbad 3 місяці тому +1

      been playing since launch. 1 50/50 won... c2 qiqi main 😍

  • @meijelly
    @meijelly 3 місяці тому +18

    the weapon banner is actually really nice to me, the past 10 times I've gotten a weapon on the banner it was always one of the rate ups and recently I got two verdicts in 19 wishes

    • @Syntherus
      @Syntherus 3 місяці тому

      I've actually never not gotten one of the banner weapons. I didn't know you could get an off banner weapon until I watched a video of someone losing to one.

    • @tojisleftit
      @tojisleftit 3 місяці тому

      You’re so fucking lucky omg..

    • @brookelovsu
      @brookelovsu 23 дні тому

      i’ve never pulled on the weapon banner it scares me as a low spender

  • @hatsunemeowku
    @hatsunemeowku 3 місяці тому +14

    ive been saving for navia since she came out (was waiting for raiden for 3 yrs atp…) and I got her and her weapon!! both on 50/50 :) she came home early at around 30 pity and the weapon took me about 60 pulls so now I have just under 100 wishes left for arlecchino rerun

  • @hugedeal8611
    @hugedeal8611 3 місяці тому +7

    I went ahead and pulled for Nilou constellations because everyone I’m interested in lands middle to end of Natlan as far as I can tell, Columbia, Capitano and whoever that most like anemo sidekick to Capitano is.

  • @MANEDITZZ
    @MANEDITZZ 3 місяці тому +19

    after looking at the intro, i can already smell some qiqis

  • @mark349321
    @mark349321 3 місяці тому +4

    The way reruns are now, and the sheer amount of five stars, I have to pull Nilou now, because she may not be back until Khaenriah

  • @fakediemad8853
    @fakediemad8853 3 місяці тому +10

    first account here!! tysm for getting me Xiphos (rn its r4 hopefully to r5) and Navia!! And Dehya,,,
    (also i may just 2pc2pc arle atp...)

    • @fakediemad8853
      @fakediemad8853 3 місяці тому +4

      Update: i got 2 keys and r5 xiphos ^_^

  • @blairy_fairy
    @blairy_fairy 3 місяці тому +10

    I swear this banner has insane luck (I got 3 five stars on 3 accs cause of the free 1600 primos, all early but guaranteed and around AR 7-15)

    • @ahsaym4161
      @ahsaym4161 3 місяці тому +3

      i got c4 nilou within 300 pulls, won every 50/50 and got 2 early, then i used the free 1600 and got tighnari after 😭 also got key on the my first 10 pull ever on the weapon banner. you might be right

    • @Hakarisdomain
      @Hakarisdomain 3 місяці тому +3

      How the hell do you have guaranteed by ar 7😭😭😭 lucky

    • @blairy_fairy
      @blairy_fairy 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Hakarisdomain the acc has existed for around 2 years and I only do free pulls lol

    • @kaletastesbad
      @kaletastesbad 3 місяці тому +1

      fr i got tighnari at ~45 pity
      now i just save until natlan/nahida

  • @fuyuelvira
    @fuyuelvira 3 місяці тому +4

    Happy b'day Mr. Xlicee!!! 🌸✨
    Have a wonderful dayy and year ahead!!!!
    And congratulations u have increased ur AR +1 XD

  • @Electro4890
    @Electro4890 3 місяці тому +2

    Won on navia banner at 59 pity, I am very happy because I was relying on winning furina to even get a chance for navia. I did and wanted to get her weapon, and I obviously lost on the weapon banner, now I am going for verdict since I have nothing else to spend on, also, since I lost to skyward atlas, I can get one of the 2 pretty good weapons for my account. Key is amazing for kuki, layla and furina. And Verdict is amazing for navia, since I don't like using serpent spine, especially at r2. Also really glad I instantly went from no xiphos on my account to an r5, my kazuha is enjoying that weapon right now.

  • @SkyRainpuff
    @SkyRainpuff 3 місяці тому +29

    Honestly, I am not hyped for Natlan. The characters look bland. I will have to wait to see what they're playstyles are like to consider pulling.

  • @flamingsun
    @flamingsun 3 місяці тому +1

    I managed to win both my 50/50's for Navia and Nilou and C6 Kirara Kaveh and Ningguang so I'm pretty happy with my pulls this patch, now I have all patch to save for Shenhe, Xianyun and Pyro Archon later down the road to Natlan.

  • @indigoolantern5669
    @indigoolantern5669 3 місяці тому +6

    Love seeing content creators being weirded out by everything 100% exploration wise, meanwhile them who are LITERALLY paid to play this game😂😂

  • @cdonovan4471
    @cdonovan4471 3 місяці тому +1

    Damn, I now feel VERY lucky to have C6 Gaming and Rosaria from trying to C2 furina. Won the first 50/50 but lost the 2nd, but it was ok bc I wanted Navia. Also got up to C5 Benny when pulling for Alhaitham/Clorinde.

  • @KatoNeko14
    @KatoNeko14 3 місяці тому +1

    Well, I guess Xlice redeemed himself after those furina pulls

  • @jieiin2015
    @jieiin2015 3 місяці тому +6

    i havent seen the little frog on his shoulder for bit

  • @AidensOpinions
    @AidensOpinions 3 місяці тому +1

    Im sorry but i could never understand saving primos for years and then giving it to a streamer, thats wild 😭

  • @riotkitty
    @riotkitty 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m assuming these people aren’t saving for Natlan, they’re whaling for it

  • @anaro3287
    @anaro3287 3 місяці тому

    Dude is talking about 100%-ing any characters build like it's a 3 day journey I can't 😭😭😭

  • @audichunes
    @audichunes 3 місяці тому

    I did like 150 pulls and still have C0 Noelle on the recent banner she was on, when she is a really good character to have now. Quite miffed.

  • @Seuration
    @Seuration 3 місяці тому

    I came back to the game 2 weeks ago. Decided to go free to play from now on, but I think the game is trying to convince me to spend money. I had 115 pulls saved, but since my Fischl was C4, and I didn't have enough starglitter to buy a copy, I decided to pull on the Nilou banner today. Mostly because I wanted one copy of Kaveh. I ended up using 70 pulls before I got my first (and only) Kaveh. I did, however, pull c2 Nilou winning 3 50/50's in those 70 pulls though. I think the game wants me to spend on the weapon banner, but I am thinking Iron Sting. Thanks miHoYo.

  • @silver.6969
    @silver.6969 3 місяці тому +2

    kazuha and raiden are coming in 5.0 so im saving for them

  • @skepziev2565
    @skepziev2565 3 місяці тому

    The new psychology, say you want a 4 stars instead of 5 stars

  • @miothefroghater9650
    @miothefroghater9650 3 місяці тому

    Every time xlices loses the 50/50 to a new character I'm waiting for the account owner to say "oh that's my favorite" but they never do

  • @XxMonkeDudexX
    @XxMonkeDudexX 3 місяці тому +1

    The first account is exactly what happened to me but now she’s c2 😭 I’m never activating it

  • @neelu_uwu
    @neelu_uwu 3 місяці тому +2

    i just got nilou(i was at 5050 and won, if i were to lose that 5050, all the stuff i grinded for her wouldve gone to waste) and just using iron sting, and... i used her for abyss... man she destroyed the abyss and my phone.

    • @fairya1470
      @fairya1470 3 місяці тому

      im going to wish for nilou i have gotten all of her stuff and have 100 wishes i hope i win 50/50

    • @neelu_uwu
      @neelu_uwu 3 місяці тому

      @@fairya1470 did u win?

  • @taiyo4665
    @taiyo4665 3 місяці тому

    And then there’s me saving for natlan even tho I have navia weapon but not navia, I need kinich, and most importantly the archon, and even more importantly exploring the region, I don’t care about anything the explosion looks so cool I can’t wait.

  • @blank_2052
    @blank_2052 3 місяці тому +3

    "Kiwawa"-Xlice

  • @kimannepark4709
    @kimannepark4709 3 місяці тому

    Woah. Everyone's pulling like crazy! No one's saving for Natlan.

  • @AOKellyJr
    @AOKellyJr 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic banner luck this time. Great to see🔥

  • @idkwhatnametoput.
    @idkwhatnametoput. 3 місяці тому +1

    i just casually got nilou in ten pulls and in the next five got keqing

  • @eding817
    @eding817 3 місяці тому

    12:07 I used 340 pulls for cynos weapon across 2 banners and got 1 copy, couldnt agree more lol

  • @sametbaltac8838
    @sametbaltac8838 3 місяці тому +6

    Who the f clicked faster than me

  • @galaxy5145a
    @galaxy5145a 3 місяці тому

    Omg it's a bit funny that while watching this video, I decided to do 2 10-pulls on Nilou's banner. I won the 50/50 and got Nilou at 18 pity ^_^

  • @julyanalamia2357
    @julyanalamia2357 3 місяці тому +9

    WHO NEEDS NATLAN IF YA GOT A FAIRY; A QUEEN AND KAVEH

    • @chronology1882
      @chronology1882 3 місяці тому

      I need natlan character for abyss lol. And also there's a hydro girl rumored to replace neuvillet lol.

    • @CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETOLIE
      @CROSSMYHEARTREFUSETOLIE 3 місяці тому

      ​@@chronology1882 while her damage is higher, her playstyle is not very "fun" and she is vape dps with slow hits. That's very specific and strict rn. Probably will be much more fun when archon releases.

    • @min_says_h3110
      @min_says_h3110 3 місяці тому

      @@chronology1882only in vape so she's got him on that niche, but her supports consist of Kazuha and Xinyan so far

  • @MAYO.MOnkey03
    @MAYO.MOnkey03 3 місяці тому +4

    i have been waiting for a navia rerun for 6 months, i started playing when she was first released and lost 10 50/50s in a row... UNTIL YESTERDAY WHERE I WON YEAAAAAAAAAH (finally have navia and a win)

  • @_GetOut_
    @_GetOut_ 3 місяці тому

    I had Navia c3 before the start of that Banner, because i wanted Clorinde i was down to 150 pulls and my dearest wish was a C6 Navia as a Welkin only player. Gacha God heard my wish and gave me C7.... my last 13 pulls were one Qiqi and a Double Navia 10 Pull 😂

  • @ranviie
    @ranviie 3 місяці тому

    my map is 100% like the first one, i thought that was normal-

  • @sonushk-yi4jh
    @sonushk-yi4jh 3 місяці тому

    I got Navia in first 10 spins and Niloue in Just 2 Pulls Iam damn Lucky this time 😂🎉

  • @n1co2017
    @n1co2017 3 місяці тому

    i decided to pull for Navia after seeing how fun she can be but of course i had to lose my 50/50 to Mona... on the plus side i now have a guaranteed for the pyro archon

  • @jullion8299
    @jullion8299 3 місяці тому

    aight im appointing you as my summoner from now on, pls bless me thankyou

  • @grimmfate8078
    @grimmfate8078 3 місяці тому

    *Looks at Kaveh RNG this round*
    *Used the word please.*
    *Got C6 Kaveh*
    ...Guess he went "Well, she did say please".

  • @zenapires4421
    @zenapires4421 3 місяці тому

    I cant believe that the first account is basically my pulls too (except I pull on Nilous banner instead of the weapon) 😭

  • @scherwood3895
    @scherwood3895 3 місяці тому

    Man i need to get him to wish for my Neuvillette C6 next time his rerun comes around lmaooo

  • @dracotek_gacha
    @dracotek_gacha 3 місяці тому

    25:02 nailed it

  • @Anxious0977
    @Anxious0977 3 місяці тому

    I got Navia and absolutely love her ❤

  • @rodrixx1182
    @rodrixx1182 3 місяці тому

    Why do i keep watching a man gamble away peoples life savings

  • @nickencugget4279
    @nickencugget4279 3 місяці тому

    I went for C6 Kaveh + Kirara + Ningguang cons, I got Nilou on 23 🗿I didnt want her. I did get my c6 kaveh in 60 pulls :) I needed 4 copies

  • @San3miXD
    @San3miXD 3 місяці тому

    I won a 50/50 for previous kazuha banner and easily got a c6 xingqiu, killed 2 birds with 1 stone type deal

  • @aslanhoustan8543
    @aslanhoustan8543 3 місяці тому

    hey xlice! just wanna let u know that i got navia in 77 pity and verdict in 36 pity

  • @ZoeQV23
    @ZoeQV23 3 місяці тому

    the first time layla came out I did her C6 in 280 pulls😃

  • @lexmcdaniel926
    @lexmcdaniel926 3 місяці тому

    I got C3 Kaveh (might c4 him), C0 Nilou, C0 Ninguang, and C0 Kirara and now I’m saving for Kinich (and maybe Kazuha)

  • @koalabae1151
    @koalabae1151 3 місяці тому

    So that is where my Kaveh went☹️

  • @jlc0550
    @jlc0550 3 місяці тому

    Got navia on 49th pull with a 50/50 ♥️

  • @GrillerGT
    @GrillerGT 3 місяці тому

    Well I was saving but I also remembered that I was going to get Nilou on her re-run, so I rolled the dice and won the 50-50. I guess Hoyoverse wanted me to get her badly xD

  • @adrianjuliano9744
    @adrianjuliano9744 3 місяці тому

    I'm saving for Natlan but not for Natlan characters except their archon 😂

  • @delusional_fool630
    @delusional_fool630 3 місяці тому

    I lost my 50/50 for the 2nd time on the Navia banner but good luck for y'all!

  • @MrScottishDEMON
    @MrScottishDEMON 3 місяці тому

    I'm saving for Natlan but rarely play as is because hsr is just a far superior game xD

  • @ananasplamenomet
    @ananasplamenomet 3 місяці тому +1

    Why? All I need is Nilou. I pulled yesterday. Got her within 60 pulls from C0 to C2. It is true, believe it or not.

  • @cameronwyatt9990
    @cameronwyatt9990 3 місяці тому

    LOVE THE MAPLE MUSIC XD

  • @PlatinumDagger
    @PlatinumDagger 3 місяці тому

    Xiphos moon always ends up on a banner I'm not pulling on.

  • @Eliza566
    @Eliza566 3 місяці тому

    Yay upload 🎉

  • @zeeshanakani
    @zeeshanakani 3 місяці тому

    I hope you will have same luck when pulling for my pyro achon

  • @EvaA_12345
    @EvaA_12345 3 місяці тому

    I’m saving for Raiden, kachina, and iansan!

  • @RiasSenpaiTheWallet
    @RiasSenpaiTheWallet 3 місяці тому

    I did a random 10 pull on the weapon banner at 0 pity and got both weapons😄

  • @fairya1470
    @fairya1470 3 місяці тому

    I had 110 wishes saved and got nilou 38 pity won 50/50 and then got her weapon 62 pityy now saving for 5.1 char

  • @wolfiee6209
    @wolfiee6209 3 місяці тому

    Unless i manage to get an early during phase 1 I’ll be saving my garuntee either for Kazuha or if there’s someone i wan’t in 5.1 but otherwise saving for xilonen or the archon depending who’s first and i like more and maybe even their weapon for the first time ever

  • @paperboy4584
    @paperboy4584 3 місяці тому

    Managed c6 Gaming and C1 Furina for super cheap last banner

  • @YaeMikoPink
    @YaeMikoPink 3 місяці тому

    Good luck to you sweetness!

  • @wormvsh6876
    @wormvsh6876 3 місяці тому

    xlice do u do viewer pulls only on na servers?

  • @theyluv_breanna9848
    @theyluv_breanna9848 3 місяці тому

    I aspire to be like the first person

  • @10thFatuiHarbinger
    @10thFatuiHarbinger 3 місяці тому

    I literally got Navia on my second pull ever, though I can build her because I can’t go to Fontaine 😭

  • @supercasstiv6732
    @supercasstiv6732 3 місяці тому

    I hope Capitano comes home

  • @elliQaz
    @elliQaz 3 місяці тому

    I got c0 navia and every 4 star except Kirara, the only one I wanted.. I know we get one free but cons would've been nice

  • @noname4927
    @noname4927 3 місяці тому

    Wow so here is where my Nilou goes …

  • @ladynikkie
    @ladynikkie 3 місяці тому

    Im saving for the pyro archon I already have Navia and Kaveh cons.

  • @chofchik
    @chofchik 3 місяці тому

    10:39 so cute ahahahahs

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth 3 місяці тому

    I have Navia and I do not want Nilou….Have been saving for Natlan since I got Arlecchino. I will be ready 😅 My map is all 100% too 😂

  • @huseynpasha271
    @huseynpasha271 3 місяці тому

    I’m saving up for muvika cuz why not :D

  • @kny_lover9999
    @kny_lover9999 3 місяці тому

    I got navia at 80 pity and nilou at 6, i just might be luckier than xlice 😎

  • @cristianavideira2545
    @cristianavideira2545 3 місяці тому +12

    when the 5.0 banners are so mid ppl rather spend their savings on these 4 queens
    Edit: *5, sorry forgot about Kaveh.

  • @sebmcc
    @sebmcc 3 місяці тому

    14:42 same issue, except I'm not getting ninguang

  • @shiro_ai
    @shiro_ai 3 місяці тому

    bro, i only win 50/50 twice since genshin release

  • @Kayessee
    @Kayessee 3 місяці тому

    I've got 400 wishes waiting for a good dps like clorinde or navia.

  • @voski818
    @voski818 3 місяці тому

    crazy session sheesh

  • @kkoetokit
    @kkoetokit 3 місяці тому

    i mean i didn't like natlan charas, not even the archon that much, probably i'll pull her if i like her gameplay, but i'm so tired of building characters. as a f2p we need to save at least 3~4 months for 1 five star so 😂, i'm just waiting furina, baizhu and kazuha bc i wasn't playing and i missed every banner lol

  • @Impo-Gaming
    @Impo-Gaming 3 місяці тому

    I got navia on 36th pull my first early 🎉

  • @watchanimeandstramkpop8195
    @watchanimeandstramkpop8195 3 місяці тому

    I wish I saved my pulls and got C1 Navia and MAYBE her Sig. Weapon. I have one of the points cause I got Skyward pride at 20 pity but I'm f2p and a spender so I'm broke w a dream😭I refuse to spend money on Genshin, I might get even more addicted

  • @Sornasaur
    @Sornasaur 3 місяці тому

    I wish I could pull some Kavehs, but I can't as I'm saving for Kinich and Ororon. At least C0 for both.

  • @shiaswin
    @shiaswin 3 місяці тому +1

    I was trying to get the xiphos sword..my pity was about 30 ish? And I set the path to nilous weapon not thinking I would get it cus my luck is dog shit. 😭 I got nilous weapon worth it cus now I don’t need to have kuki and Benny share a sword 😍

  • @defo_devi
    @defo_devi 3 місяці тому

    Yall did we just forget 4.9?

  • @Pear109
    @Pear109 3 місяці тому +1

    Lol as I'm not going to be pulling for like 3 updates. I already have 128 pulls saved. LMAO is it not usual to have 100% in all of the areas???

  • @AizenSouske69
    @AizenSouske69 3 місяці тому

    I literally got c6 ga ming In 80 pulls on furina banner

  • @Night_Wolf_sandy
    @Night_Wolf_sandy 3 місяці тому

    I only need one more Dori and then she is C6 and 2 more for Fischl