Thank you for the list! Interesting choice to add in more Pokemon instead of items like Capturing Aroma, are more Pokemon worth the trade off as opposed to cycling your deck out more consistently? Personally, I've been dabbling into different techs for the deck, like Grabbers to take out Pokemon out of the opponent's hand, Professor Turo to save your damaged Pokemon in a pinch or to switch them out basically during the early parts of the game, Gardenia's Vigor to supercharge and make use of the increased Leaf Energy ratio, and Super Rod to bail out Energies or Pokemon that has been knocked out for another use. (Iron Leaves esepcially, when it gets knocked out in a Zard matchup). I did think of making use of some stadiums as well, like Pokemon League HQ to prevent easy retreats, Collapsed Stadium since we don't necessarily need all 5 slots on the bench (Might give Lugia players a way out so not the best idea but it is an option) and Lost City to fight against decks that can do some recursion. (also one more spicy tech if you so choose with Devolution if there are many Zards running about in the post rotation format or your LGS; speaking from personal experience lol)
If Snorlax ends up being top tier, I like just going pile with things that can attack. The deck still functions quite well as a pile as seen many times at high levels. Definitely going to be one of my 3 built decks after our final local events before rotation.
Hoopa EX goes crazy against this deck and has been gaining a lot of popularity as Lost Zone’s Iron Hands answer, so I feel like if Arc/Tina gets more and more play in the US, Hoopa EX stocks with skyrocket.
List looks solid. I have a very similar list biggest difference is I run Minior (Paradox Rift) instead of Radiant Gardevoir and 2 Lost City over the third copies of bidoof/Bibarel
lost tina if you can lost zone (it's a very intricate play, not many can master it, those that do, do good). arc-tina however can get even a mediocre player into day 2 at regionals
i have seen some post-rota zard lists and they go WILD with 2 or even THREE! lost vacuums, they also play less rotom and pigeot ex now, and gravitate towards bibarrel, to potentially do a prize mapping disruption and take the win that way (not many decks can recover if they took 3 prizes against a zard deck tbf..., you want to do a clean 2,4,6 )
something has to be banned, not sure what, but either block snorlax (unlikeley), erika's invitation, or Eri. i'd say as soon as the powers that be realise how broken snorlax is with eri in the format, we'll see the 1st S&V era card ban.
I don't think Mist Energy stops the extra prize being taken because Iron Hands takes the knock out by damage and damage is not an "effect" so I think the extra prize still gets taken.
Mist Energy only stops effects of attacks applying to the attached pokemon. Amp You Very Much just allows the opponent to take an extra prize if the opposing pokemon was knocked out by damage from that attack. The extra prize effect isnt on the Mist energy attached pokemon
what kills this deck is coming in the next set, the fighting type ogrepon ex that doesn't take damage from pokemon with abilities (immune to arceus vstar), and deals 140 (280 to arceus vstar)
Anything that anyone titles “this is broken” while they also admit they haven’t played it yet also probably said Reset Stamp was OP before it was released
I'd definitely be interested to see your take on gholdengo ex post rotation
2-3 buddy poffins, cancelling cologne, cryptomaniac combined with chien pao’s weakness to metal should make gholdengo pretty big
Gotta get the bro some more ink for the printer
Thank you for the list! Interesting choice to add in more Pokemon instead of items like Capturing Aroma, are more Pokemon worth the trade off as opposed to cycling your deck out more consistently?
Personally, I've been dabbling into different techs for the deck, like Grabbers to take out Pokemon out of the opponent's hand, Professor Turo to save your damaged Pokemon in a pinch or to switch them out basically during the early parts of the game, Gardenia's Vigor to supercharge and make use of the increased Leaf Energy ratio, and Super Rod to bail out Energies or Pokemon that has been knocked out for another use. (Iron Leaves esepcially, when it gets knocked out in a Zard matchup).
I did think of making use of some stadiums as well, like Pokemon League HQ to prevent easy retreats, Collapsed Stadium since we don't necessarily need all 5 slots on the bench (Might give Lugia players a way out so not the best idea but it is an option) and Lost City to fight against decks that can do some recursion.
(also one more spicy tech if you so choose with Devolution if there are many Zards running about in the post rotation format or your LGS; speaking from personal experience lol)
Azul’s decklist videos do so well. Boy can farm these out with minimal effort. We All want to hear his opinion. Keep them coming!
Already have ready my ArcTina deck for post rotation. I will be testing what tech cards I like the most while I keep testing it.
Hi azull just wanted to say thank you for making these videos and you are a very great inspiration for me so I thank you very
0:50 that was too real man
If Snorlax ends up being top tier, I like just going pile with things that can attack. The deck still functions quite well as a pile as seen many times at high levels. Definitely going to be one of my 3 built decks after our final local events before rotation.
Hoopa EX goes crazy against this deck and has been gaining a lot of popularity as Lost Zone’s Iron Hands answer, so I feel like if Arc/Tina gets more and more play in the US, Hoopa EX stocks with skyrocket.
Got mine sleeved up
Thoughts on pal pad? 4 eri is not bad on distrupt ac tina deck
Thanks Azul
Hi Azul, i wan’t to ask why you don’t like the Roaring Moon deck pre and post rotation?
I want to see Dialga VSTAR. The new metang with metal maker looks to help boost it more and I want to see what you think of it.
I like this list ! What’s better lb tina or arc Tina?
List looks solid. I have a very similar list biggest difference is I run Minior (Paradox Rift) instead of Radiant Gardevoir and 2 Lost City over the third copies of bidoof/Bibarel
I’m looking forward to arc/tina post rotation and your build is solid Azul 👌🏾👌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thoughts on Bannette using Sal and Eri? Which additional Pokemon would you add as well?
why'd bro have to make this not an underrated pick anymore
It never was lmao
@@MrBreastGiveMeMoney Nah everyone just wants to play lugia
I’d like to see a LZB/paradox box video next.
Which is better though, ArcTina or LostTina?
In Japan arctina is doing better
lost tina if you can lost zone (it's a very intricate play, not many can master it, those that do, do good). arc-tina however can get even a mediocre player into day 2 at regionals
It seems like all the new decks have a lot of tools to get rid of Charizard. I really want to understand how Carizard players will fight back!
i have seen some post-rota zard lists and they go WILD with 2 or even THREE! lost vacuums, they also play less rotom and pigeot ex now, and gravitate towards bibarrel, to potentially do a prize mapping disruption and take the win that way (not many decks can recover if they took 3 prizes against a zard deck tbf..., you want to do a clean 2,4,6 )
What is the answer to mimikue?
Giratina V
I feel like Eri is going to be too broken in decks like snorlax stall
Yes they are, they play 4 in japan already
Yay, even MORE control..
something has to be banned, not sure what, but either block snorlax (unlikeley), erika's invitation, or Eri. i'd say as soon as the powers that be realise how broken snorlax is with eri in the format, we'll see the 1st S&V era card ban.
Does mist energy stop iron hands from taking an extra prize?
I don't think Mist Energy stops the extra prize being taken because Iron Hands takes the knock out by damage and damage is not an "effect" so I think the extra prize still gets taken.
Mist Energy only stops effects of attacks applying to the attached pokemon. Amp You Very Much just allows the opponent to take an extra prize if the opposing pokemon was knocked out by damage from that attack.
The extra prize effect isnt on the Mist energy attached pokemon
No Cheren? :O
And no manaphy?
And no other bad cards its insane the list is broken
If gouging fire becomes popular I feel like this deck has a very bad matchup against it
what kills this deck is coming in the next set, the fighting type ogrepon ex that doesn't take damage from pokemon with abilities (immune to arceus vstar), and deals 140 (280 to arceus vstar)
@@alexnicolaou3579 Nope, the ogerpon attack isn't affected by weakness
I think...
No maximum belt??
did you watch the video?
did you not watch the video?
Bruh watch the video 😂
Watch the video the whole way through ya cheese wheel
Anything that anyone titles “this is broken” while they also admit they haven’t played it yet also probably said Reset Stamp was OP before it was released
reset stamp was really good tbf lol
lmao reset stamp was crazy
Lol this is broken
ArcTina is broken
Nope future box still bdif no bad matchups i will win euic with it
Gets one shot by a blastoise. Terribad
Luckily no one will be playing Blastoise anyways
Blastoise sucks tho lol
last time i matched up against blastoise was the day 151 came out...
I get clowned for playing arc/Tina 🥲