I'm a never Mormon but I was raised evangelical and we watched Studio C every day for years. This is an interview I've been waiting for a long time. Thank you for everything Stacey!
Honestly I took a break from Mormon stories bc I felt so much frustration and sadness listening to the stories but this episode brought me so much positivity and hope. His outlook made me reevaluate my own outlook. Love it!
Wow. Thank you Stacey. You are indeed Gold. So wise and eloquent and compassionate and powerful! Please take a leadership role in our world. We need more of you.
😊love this story, my son is gay and he was in the church as a 14 to 16 year old. My heart hurts so much to know the pain he went through being in the church. Stacy is beautiful spirit and brings such genuine feelings. ❤️
I left the church 4 months ago and am definitely feeling the waves of grief. Not only has my faith in the Mormon church crumbled, but my marriage is crumbling due to my choice to leave the faith. Stacey's positivity and encouragement has given me hope! Thank you! I have shared this episode with my teenagers :)❤
Amen to that! His perspective is so invigorating and hopeful. And his views on humanity and how everyone is doing what they feel is right are inspiring. Stacey, thank you for shining so brightly
Still waiting for David Archuleta. After his great statement at the Masked Singer, it would be a great time for an epic interview. David, come to Mormon Stories Podcast! ❤🏳️🌈🥰
Stacey and I have multiple mutual acquaintances from BYU. This interview made me wish I made a concerted effort to be his friend. What an amazing human!
Love the part about how accepting his queerness helped him in so many other ways. I've been feeling that as I've realized my own queerness outside of the church.
Thank you for a great interview! Stacey is so mature in his perspectives. Wow! My favorite quote (talking about the church) “This can do good. This can hurt people, just like us……the nuance is so important…..lift where you stand. You do your thing let me do my thing.” For me one of the BEST things about deconstructing was overcoming Black-and-White thinking. I now see it as one of the major polarizing forces hurting our society. Learning to listen and really hear different sides and experiences of others is a super important skill that too many of us do not have.
8:30 Simultaneously raised in the LDS and a Baptist church and comparing doctrines... That's already a setup of a free thinking mind. No wonder he would free himself later on.
Never watch the show but have to say Stacey has amazing coping skills so early in life, in spite of handling so many life hurdles, like divorce, coming out etc. An inspiring strong person.
Never-Mo here, Stacey is the most awsomest person I have ever had the pleasure of getting to know on MS!! He is so down to earth and real, thank you for telling your story, Stacey, you are so inspiring, and this interview was a great way to start my morning!
I love listening to Stacey, he’s so funny and personable but also extremely thoughtful and real. So glad you had him on the podcast, I was hoping he’d come on soon! ❤
I normally would say Welcome to Freedom Stacey but he sounds like he’s always been free. What a healthy perspective. Great interview John, Geraldo and team. Thank you. Never-Mo atheist here.
Around 2:30:00 min- thanks John for being will to be blunt and direct in this interview. I think you made really tasteful decisions in this interview and you let him be him and respect him, and also asked the hard questions. Thank you for not skirting it.
Code switching explanation at 15:00 was very interesting. Black culture sees eye contact as disrespectful, white culture sees it as friendly. Stacey is so off the cuff and informal- what a likeable personality.
Props to Stacey for being such a genuine and authentic person. I don't usually listen to long-format podcasts but I could listen to him for hours and hours more
This was a very insightful and fun discussion. Refreshing take on accepting people who have different perspectives and how to navigate relationships when we disagree. Thanks Mormon Stories and Stacey!
I enjoyed studio c in high school. The full cast changed happened around when I graduated high school and the crew fell off of my radar for a while. And a year or 2 ago i left the church and found myself. And got tiktok for the exmo community. I stumbled across Stacy. Saw he was openly gay and wondered where he was at and what his story was. It was great to see him happy. Im gald I got to see him talk about his story. There's aspects to his queer experience I relate to. Being ace, I've had very confused looks from leaders not expecring me to not have a problem with that stuff.
What an amazing attitude. I have learned so much. I try to find inspiration in other people to teach my grandkids. I want a better world and more humanity for them. These lessons are so key.
Learned so much with this kid’s interview. And by the way, I went to Africa (South Africa) to find out that I was not white. All my life I thought that I was. I’m Portuguese by the way.
Wow, amazing perspectives! I'm fulled with joy and introspection. Thank you, Stacey, John, and Gerardo. This is why Mormon Stories is so much needed. ❤❤❤
I just watched and downloaded Barbs & Rhonda 😂❤ Also, it really is so impressive how Stacey learned to embrace flexibility and nuance so early on. Not many of us who grew up in the church did, it was often very black and white. Stacey is just overall wonderful ❤
I love this interview! So on point, so much resonates with me although as a single/married straight woman leaving the church. Also love Stacey's positivity.
I didn’t realize they were for years- I watched stuff from Studio C in Bible College years ago. I showed the the show to my little brother- he even wanted for awhile to go to BYU to try to be part of the show before we realized it was an LDS school. We had no idea. Lol
Stacy you are a celebrity in our house! We quote you all of the time. One of my favorite skits is the crayon one. Skin color crayon 😂 Thank you for this wonderful interview!! It has helped so much!!
This is one of my favorite episodes of Mormon Stories!!! It was entertaining, enlightening, and inspiring. Stacey, I so appreciated your perspectives that provided me new insights! You are very articulate, self-aware, grounded, authentic, genuine, and emotionally intelligent. Will you be my friend? 🙂
This one is a treasure amongst the Mormon Stories! Stacey Harkey, your underlying perspective and attitude is extremely valuable to witness. Instead of debating abuse issues, you go to your core beliefs and glide right over the dichotomies battling each other. Love the, “I’m not asking for your permission!”
Incredible episode. I feel the love of humanity and God while watching this, more so than General Conference talks. I remember watching Studio-C when I first joined the Church.
I started watching during my angry and pissed off at the church phase and had to take a break but with charlie bird getting married I started to scroll the past videos and saw this and its pretty wholesome to listen to. I didn't have the worst experiences growing up, but I didnt have a sunshine and daisies experience
I left the church at 12 years old because my bishop, and then my stake president, could not explain to me why black people "carried the mark of Cain" thus had no rights in church, yet we were also being taught we were not responsible for the "sins of our fathers." During those conversations I also questioned why God would not choose the BEST prophet, and why the BEST prophet had to have a penis. I was distraught leaving the church, but the other teaching "You know the truth by the fruit of the tree" or whatever it was. The fruit was poison, thus the entire church was lies and poison. Nearly all of the LDS people of my age, pre-convenient "revelation" are racist to the core, they just don't admit it in mixed company.
Your not responsible for the sins of your fathers and your not held accountable for those sins either however you do suffer the consequences of their actions
Hi, professional linguist here! Just going to put it out there, code switching isn't universal. It is specific to minority groups who have different dialects and tonations to their language. Changing between in-speech to traditional English isn't code switching.
Great interview. Great perspectives and attitudes towards approaching life. It made me happy watching this episode. Thank you to Stacey and everyone involved in the interview 😊
Love this guy!!! What a genuinely amazing human being. I love his bright personality and his ability to talk about his intimate feelings. I hope he has a wonderful life with the love of his life. ❤
What a truly lovely man. Fellow Southerner... we have a little ( or a lot) of spice. We judge people by doing the best they can with what they have. If they fall short, " bless their heart."
Stacie, John and G, best episode to date and I have seen hundreds of MS episodes. Truly best ever. The authenticity is awe inspiring. You have left me with a few key ideas. Yes, no man in leadership is more important than my own relationship with my higher power/savior. In this perfectionist scrupulously mormon environment when I authentically let down my guards and be myself others will maybe feel safe too and lastly being my flawed authentic self while allowing others the same grace will lead to better communities. Many more good parts but few highlights that vibed with me. ❤️❤️❤️ Hope to see you back.
2:08:08 "What is Scott Sterling about?" Close to 100M views - best sketch of all time - that's what it's about! I love this podcast, but that is by far the craziest question that has been asked...
Current questioning member and I really love this podcast! This interview specifically as a fan of Stacey, but also because of the overwhelming positive experience in the church and in Stacey’s personality! I haven’t had any problems with the church I tend to do what Stacey did and just put what I don’t like or agree with, out of my mind. Lately with issues in my marriage (for years) and with my oldest kid almost being 8 and the cultural expectation to be baptized I really have just become riddled with fear of some of the cultural teachings and the way things are taught without information. I grew up not in the church and abuse happened, so I’m very passionate about teaching consent and since my kids could start asking questions about their bodies or sexuality I have been as straight forward with them as I can be. Anyway as the expectation of baptism for my son gets closer, April, I just can’t stop with the questioning because it doesn’t seem like a choice. I feel like he couldn’t care less and the only reason he kinda does is because of his peers and that we have talked and learned so much about it. The quotes that got me: when do they wear the person hat and when do they wear the god hat and Their doing the best with what they got and they don’t got much!
We had very similar discussions about the Catholic Church in Germany, which cared much more about appearance than for truth. For example,when a Catholic staff member remarried, which was not accepted in the Catholic church, he/she was asked to move to another parish where it was unknown the person was unmarried. so it was not about morality but about appearance of morality.
Stacey, your faith story is so similar to mine, even though it’s in different religions. I love the nuance, and I know nothing in life is black and white, but I still struggle with that sometimes and I certainly did when I was a teenager.
Stacey has a great, optimistic attitude. Glad he's not bogged down with a sour victim mentality. It's refreshing to hear his level-headed approach to life.
What made Stacey's life much easier is his father's influence in community activism, free agency, and having attended 2 different church's and gaining a healthy prospective of both and of life. The interview was tremendously helpful for almost 100% of its listeners. Blessings Stacey Heraldo and John
Great interview. Totally different than the other minorities that were interviewed. He seems like a really good guy. In his case more than the others, he seems to be totally assimilated whereas the others seemed to have a hard time.
I find it interesting that you identified as being Cherokee. Being from Oklahoma I would bet money you are part Native. My mothers family are from OK and are half-breeds ( as I have seen a couple of the ancestors referred to in history books). That family are Southern Baptists and I spent my summers going to both churches when visiting my grandparents. I always felt the Baptists were more hardcore. Then I found out one of the aunts married into the Packer family in Nauvoo and came into Utah. I think there are more Native Americans who were part of The Church from the beginning. Over the past 400 years we have many in the family and I don’t think we are that unusual. I was also born in Texas and went to high school there. Enjoying your story!
His family identified as Cherokee. From this interview sounds likeStacey himself didn't seem to think much of it and in any case his DNA test disproved it.
@@andrewsuryali8540 DNA tests for Native blood are inconclusive since so many have Caucasian blood. If your family have been here since the 1600’s there is a 50/50 chance of having Native American relatives. My great-grandmother told me about how her grandparents walked to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears ( she didn’t call it that). Most people from Oklahoma have some. I stand by my statement
I'm a never Mormon but I was raised evangelical and we watched Studio C every day for years. This is an interview I've been waiting for a long time. Thank you for everything Stacey!
Honestly I took a break from Mormon stories bc I felt so much frustration and sadness listening to the stories but this episode brought me so much positivity and hope. His outlook made me reevaluate my own outlook. Love it!
Same!
This guy is AMAZING! The healthiest look on life I've ever heard. He is a great example for all of us.
Wow. Thank you Stacey. You are indeed Gold. So wise and eloquent and compassionate and powerful! Please take a leadership role in our world. We need more of you.
Yes!!!!
Any and all of the OG Studio C cast you can get on here is HUGE!!!
😊love this story, my son is gay and he was in the church as a 14 to 16 year old. My heart hurts so much to know the pain he went through being in the church. Stacy is beautiful spirit and brings such genuine feelings. ❤️
Stacy was a teacher at our Institute in Provo. He gave the most insightful lessons and was loved by our YSA Stake.
I left the church 4 months ago and am definitely feeling the waves of grief. Not only has my faith in the Mormon church crumbled, but my marriage is crumbling due to my choice to leave the faith. Stacey's positivity and encouragement has given me hope! Thank you! I have shared this episode with my teenagers :)❤
Stacey has a huge amount of emotional intelligence. I’m glad he’s living his truth.
Amen to that! His perspective is so invigorating and hopeful. And his views on humanity and how everyone is doing what they feel is right are inspiring. Stacey, thank you for shining so brightly
Another grand slam with Mormon Stories. Keep them coming!
Still waiting for David Archuleta. After his great statement at the Masked Singer, it would be a great time for an epic interview. David, come to Mormon Stories Podcast! ❤🏳️🌈🥰
Stacey and I have multiple mutual acquaintances from BYU. This interview made me wish I made a concerted effort to be his friend. What an amazing human!
I love the way Stacey thinks. We can all learn from him. Thank you for sharing.
I could not stop watching Stacey talk. What a bright light. Thanks for doing this interview for us!
Loved Stacey as a Studio C cast member, but I love him even more after watching this interview. What a lovely, beautiful person!
I also had divorced parents who had different churches!!! Two church camps! I believe that this really helped me too!
Great story. This is the first gay story that didn't have me in tears. I am one of your non Mormon listeners. I am gay, atheist, and vegan.
Love the part about how accepting his queerness helped him in so many other ways. I've been feeling that as I've realized my own queerness outside of the church.
Thank you for a great interview! Stacey is so mature in his perspectives. Wow!
My favorite quote (talking about the church)
“This can do good. This can hurt people, just like us……the nuance is so important…..lift where you stand. You do your thing let me do my thing.”
For me one of the BEST things about deconstructing was overcoming Black-and-White thinking. I now see it as one of the major polarizing forces hurting our society. Learning to listen and really hear different sides and experiences of others is a super important skill that too many of us do not have.
Thank you for sharing If I may share. It is important not to harshly judge ourselves but have self-compassion to be easier on ourselves.
I really like how self aware and thoughtful Stacey is. We can all learn from his resilience and attitude.
8:30 Simultaneously raised in the LDS and a Baptist church and comparing doctrines... That's already a setup of a free thinking mind. No wonder he would free himself later on.
Never watch the show but have to say Stacey has amazing coping skills so early in life, in spite of handling so many life hurdles, like divorce, coming out etc. An inspiring strong person.
Never-Mo here, Stacey is the most awsomest person I have ever had the pleasure of getting to know on MS!! He is so down to earth and real, thank you for telling your story, Stacey, you are so inspiring, and this interview was a great way to start my morning!
I love listening to Stacey, he’s so funny and personable but also extremely thoughtful and real. So glad you had him on the podcast, I was hoping he’d come on soon! ❤
What a lovely human. Thank you for sharing your story, Stacy!
I normally would say Welcome to Freedom Stacey but he sounds like he’s always been free. What a healthy perspective. Great interview John, Geraldo and team. Thank you. Never-Mo atheist here.
Hi, may I ask what. Never mo atheist means? No offense meant
being a nuanced person in mormonism is so hard for me to comprehend. Glad he could have that growing up.
What a guy Stacey is! Thanks for the interview, man! Appreciate you!
Around 2:30:00 min- thanks John for being will to be blunt and direct in this interview. I think you made really tasteful decisions in this interview and you let him be him and respect him, and also asked the hard questions. Thank you for not skirting it.
WOW!!! What an amazing interview! Stacey, you really have a great prospective and it was a pleasure listening to your journey!
Code switching explanation at 15:00 was very interesting. Black culture sees eye contact as disrespectful, white culture sees it as friendly. Stacey is so off the cuff and informal- what a likeable personality.
Props to Stacey for being such a genuine and authentic person. I don't usually listen to long-format podcasts but I could listen to him for hours and hours more
This has been my favorite interview to date on MS! Stacey is so energetic, authentic and wise!
This was a very insightful and fun discussion. Refreshing take on accepting people who have different perspectives and how to navigate relationships when we disagree. Thanks Mormon Stories and Stacey!
I enjoyed studio c in high school. The full cast changed happened around when I graduated high school and the crew fell off of my radar for a while. And a year or 2 ago i left the church and found myself. And got tiktok for the exmo community.
I stumbled across Stacy. Saw he was openly gay and wondered where he was at and what his story was. It was great to see him happy.
Im gald I got to see him talk about his story. There's aspects to his queer experience I relate to. Being ace, I've had very confused looks from leaders not expecring me to not have a problem with that stuff.
This is SO INSPIRING!!!! As a gay ex-Mormon, I related to this so much
What an amazing attitude. I have learned so much. I try to find inspiration in other people to teach my grandkids. I want a better world and more humanity for them. These lessons are so key.
Stacey, thanks for sharing. You are helping others.
Learned so much with this kid’s interview.
And by the way, I went to Africa (South Africa) to find out that I was not white. All my life I thought that I was. I’m Portuguese by the way.
So very excited!! Love him
This is so helpful, I love Stacey’s attitude toward life. It is so inspiring
Wow, amazing perspectives! I'm fulled with joy and introspection. Thank you, Stacey, John, and Gerardo. This is why Mormon Stories is so much needed. ❤❤❤
LOVING THIS!!!! The authenticity is so refreshing!!! (and so much fun to watch and listen!!)
I just watched and downloaded Barbs & Rhonda 😂❤
Also, it really is so impressive how Stacey learned to embrace flexibility and nuance so early on. Not many of us who grew up in the church did, it was often very black and white.
Stacey is just overall wonderful ❤
I love this interview! So on point, so much resonates with me although as a single/married straight woman leaving the church. Also love Stacey's positivity.
Wait, STUDIO C WAS MORMON??????????? I remember watching Bad Karma in English class in 8th grade! 😆
Lol, the BYUTV logo didn't give it away? Understandable, though since the quality is on par with SNL (and way better imo)
@@PoorStargazer I never saw the BYUTV logo until you pointed it out to me! 🤣 I thought they were just a really high quality UA-cam comedy channel!
I didn’t realize they were for years- I watched stuff from Studio C in Bible College years ago. I showed the the show to my little brother- he even wanted for awhile to go to BYU to try to be part of the show before we realized it was an LDS school. We had no idea. Lol
Stacy you are a celebrity in our house!
We quote you all of the time. One of my favorite skits is the crayon one. Skin color crayon 😂
Thank you for this wonderful interview!!
It has helped so much!!
That was incredibly positive and inspiring. What a powerful, genuine perspective he has. I'm so glad I watched!
Had no idea who this was. Absolutely blown away. Thank you Stacey for sharing your story.
I love love love Stacey and am so proud of him. I wish him love, light and decaf 😅
3 hours is short for Mormon stories. Great job
This is one of my favorite episodes of Mormon Stories!!! It was entertaining, enlightening, and inspiring. Stacey, I so appreciated your perspectives that provided me new insights! You are very articulate, self-aware, grounded, authentic, genuine, and emotionally intelligent. Will you be my friend? 🙂
When I moved to Utah with my young son, we started watching Studio C. What a great show for families. Thanks for making us laugh, Stacey ❤
Emotional intelligence is a beautiful thing.
This one is a treasure amongst the Mormon Stories! Stacey Harkey, your underlying perspective and attitude is extremely valuable to witness. Instead of debating abuse issues, you go to your core beliefs and glide right over the dichotomies battling each other. Love the, “I’m not asking for your permission!”
As another queer BYU alum (class of 2023), I love this episode. Stacey is a gem.
Would love to hear your story if/when you’re ready to share!
So much to learn from Stacey, what a great human
Such a beautiful episode ❤
I loved loved loved listening to and watching this episode! Feeling inspired and edified 🙏🏽
Incredible episode. I feel the love of humanity and God while watching this, more so than General Conference talks. I remember watching Studio-C when I first joined the Church.
I started watching during my angry and pissed off at the church phase and had to take a break but with charlie bird getting married I started to scroll the past videos and saw this and its pretty wholesome to listen to. I didn't have the worst experiences growing up, but I didnt have a sunshine and daisies experience
This has been an amazing interview! Stacey’s attitude is so humbling
49:13 such a profound concept, every person deserves this!
1:59:43 this, this, this, this ❤️
1:59:54
Stacey has a sense of true spirituality and I have never listened to someone so UN-enmeshed with family and church as he. How healthy! Incredible!!!!!
I left the church at 12 years old because my bishop, and then my stake president, could not explain to me why black people "carried the mark of Cain" thus had no rights in church, yet we were also being taught we were not responsible for the "sins of our fathers." During those conversations I also questioned why God would not choose the BEST prophet, and why the BEST prophet had to have a penis. I was distraught leaving the church, but the other teaching "You know the truth by the fruit of the tree" or whatever it was. The fruit was poison, thus the entire church was lies and poison. Nearly all of the LDS people of my age, pre-convenient "revelation" are racist to the core, they just don't admit it in mixed company.
Your not responsible for the sins of your fathers and your not held accountable for those sins either however you do suffer the consequences of their actions
It’s simple agency don’t take responsibility for things you can’t control
Wow! Fantastic, refreshing, and positive. So many gems in this interview. Great work Mormon Stories and thanks Stacey for sharing with us!
I admire his intelligence and confidence
Loved this episode so much! Stacey’s perspective really inspired me to seek authenticity in my own life.
Hi, professional linguist here! Just going to put it out there, code switching isn't universal. It is specific to minority groups who have different dialects and tonations to their language. Changing between in-speech to traditional English isn't code switching.
Thanks for this clarification!
Great interview. Great perspectives and attitudes towards approaching life. It made me happy watching this episode. Thank you to Stacey and everyone involved in the interview 😊
Love this guy!!! What a genuinely amazing human being. I love his bright personality and his ability to talk about his intimate feelings. I hope he has a wonderful life with the love of his life. ❤
The soccer scene still kills me 😂
I love hearing Stacey's perspective on things! I really enjoyed this episode.
I absolutely loved this episode!! His perspectives, attitudes, positivity, are truly inspiring! I want to be more like Stacey!
What a truly lovely man. Fellow Southerner... we have a little ( or a lot) of spice. We judge people by doing the best they can with what they have. If they fall short, " bless their heart."
Stacie, John and G, best episode to date and I have seen hundreds of MS episodes. Truly best ever. The authenticity is awe inspiring. You have left me with a few key ideas. Yes, no man in leadership is more important than my own relationship with my higher power/savior. In this perfectionist scrupulously mormon environment when I authentically let down my guards and be myself others will maybe feel safe too and lastly being my flawed authentic self while allowing others the same grace will lead to better communities. Many more good parts but few highlights that vibed with me. ❤️❤️❤️ Hope to see you back.
Lol and I have quilted for 35 years. Stay cool with Fond and Porter😂😂😂
Love ya Stacey!! Love hearing more of your story and your unique perspective. Your optimism is infectious
2:08:08 "What is Scott Sterling about?" Close to 100M views - best sketch of all time - that's what it's about! I love this podcast, but that is by far the craziest question that has been asked...
I LOVE Stacey's positive and logical personality. Such an inspiration, a GREAT Mormon Story. :D
What a beautiful soul. I’m going to listen to this one many times-keep gleaning that wisdom!:)
Current questioning member and I really love this podcast! This interview specifically as a fan of Stacey, but also because of the overwhelming positive experience in the church and in Stacey’s personality! I haven’t had any problems with the church I tend to do what Stacey did and just put what I don’t like or agree with, out of my mind. Lately with issues in my marriage (for years) and with my oldest kid almost being 8 and the cultural expectation to be baptized I really have just become riddled with fear of some of the cultural teachings and the way things are taught without information. I grew up not in the church and abuse happened, so I’m very passionate about teaching consent and since my kids could start asking questions about their bodies or sexuality I have been as straight forward with them as I can be. Anyway as the expectation of baptism for my son gets closer, April, I just can’t stop with the questioning because it doesn’t seem like a choice. I feel like he couldn’t care less and the only reason he kinda does is because of his peers and that we have talked and learned so much about it.
The quotes that got me: when do they wear the person hat and when do they wear the god hat and Their doing the best with what they got and they don’t got much!
1:50:37 a big theme in the X-Men: people fear what they don't understand. (I'm about his age and i was obsessed with x-men comics too!)
"The truth is the truth" i love this section 1:47:34
We had very similar discussions about the Catholic Church in Germany, which cared much more about appearance than for truth. For example,when a Catholic staff member remarried, which was not accepted in the Catholic church, he/she was asked to move to another parish where it was unknown the person was unmarried. so it was not about morality but about appearance of morality.
I've never seen studio c (never mo) but what a great episode! So many layers
Pardon my french, but I "freaking" love this guy
I attended the SOAR program at BYU one summer and Stacey was one of the counselors. Glad to listen to this interview 👍🏼
Thanks, Stacey!!!
Stacy, you are amazing and wonderful! I really enjoyed this interview. : )
Stacey, your faith story is so similar to mine, even though it’s in different religions. I love the nuance, and I know nothing in life is black and white, but I still struggle with that sometimes and I certainly did when I was a teenager.
So excited for this episode!!
@@ben9965prove it.
@@ben9965I'd be happy to help you buy you a new keyboard without a stuck capslock
Troll
@@ben9965Yawn, it's over. With the advent of the internet, the card house of lies has tumbled down. 🥱
@@ben9965 Read the CES letter and please start some therapy. 🫶🏼
HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN THIS??? I'm not mormon, but my family LOVES the OG cast. I want to see the Going West movie!
Stacey has a great, optimistic attitude. Glad he's not bogged down with a sour victim mentality. It's refreshing to hear his level-headed approach to life.
sometimes, we see that our heart wants what it wants. There is no way to stop changing the real feeling.
What made Stacey's life much easier is his father's influence in community activism, free agency, and having attended 2 different church's
and gaining a healthy prospective of both and of life. The interview was tremendously helpful for almost 100% of its listeners.
Blessings Stacey Heraldo and John
Our boy!
Great interview. Totally different than the other minorities that were interviewed. He seems like a really good guy. In his case more than the others, he seems to be totally assimilated whereas the others seemed to have a hard time.
I went to one of the original Divine Comedy shows! And my ex's best friend was a cast member for a bit.
Really enjoyed this one, thank you so much Stacey for sharing your story!
Gerardo: "Did you hear about the church's teachings on interracial marraige?"
Stacey: "Guuurl..." hahahahaha 😆😆
IVE BEEN WAITIIIIIING
I find it interesting that you identified as being Cherokee. Being from Oklahoma I would bet money you are part Native. My mothers family are from OK and are half-breeds ( as I have seen a couple of the ancestors referred to in history books). That family are Southern Baptists and I spent my summers going to both churches when visiting my grandparents. I always felt the Baptists were more hardcore. Then I found out one of the aunts married into the Packer family in Nauvoo and came into Utah. I think there are more Native Americans who were part of The Church from the beginning. Over the past 400 years we have many in the family and I don’t think we are that unusual. I was also born in Texas and went to high school there. Enjoying your story!
His family identified as Cherokee. From this interview sounds likeStacey himself didn't seem to think much of it and in any case his DNA test disproved it.
@@andrewsuryali8540 DNA tests for Native blood are inconclusive since so many have Caucasian blood. If your family have been here since the 1600’s there is a 50/50 chance of having Native American relatives. My great-grandmother told me about how her grandparents walked to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears ( she didn’t call it that). Most people from Oklahoma have some. I stand by my statement