Trading for AD wasn’t the problem. He was already a superstar, and the Lakers are absolutely horrible at developing talent. The moves we made (and didn’t make) in the 2 offseasons after it-especially this last one-and the health of Anthony Davis being as questionable as Mackelmore’s Grammysre the reasons why we’re fucked. We didn’t develop Kyle then traded him and KCP for Russ which is the worst move in franchise history, we overvalued THT instead of trading him, and most damningly we let Caruso walk for absolutely nothing.
No, the AD trade cost them their young core group, LBJ has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant success for HIS legacy. One bubble title with a big asterisk wasn't worth it
That is kind of right, for example, in 2010, I was so disappointed they let go of Trevor, I loved Trevor when he was with the Lakers, he was just clutch and a great defender and made winning place, especially against Denver. He could have been Kobe Bryant's Scottie Pippen, obviously not as good, but he could have filled a similar role.
I'm not a Lakers fan, but I believe they're trying to do what the Warriors did. The Warriors won a finals with Steph and Klay. And then after they lost the finals to the same team they beat the year before, they went out and got KD and won another two finals. By getting all these stars under one roof, it seems like the Lakers are trying to become the dynasty that The Warriors once were.
I think the Lakers has become a place where it's very difficulty to nurture a rookie or young player, it's like expecting a chick to survive in the jungle. There's too much pressure, too many distractions, etc. Even if LeBron and AD has left team, i still think expectation is going to be there even if the Lakers is not a popular team anymore.
The other argument to be made (regardless of Lebron had come or not), would these have had enough touches to develop where they got to? Randle, Ingram, Dlo, Kuzma
I didn’t want them to trade that young core but let’s be honest, the team would’ve been good but we got a forsure championship and worst case scenario we can trade ad, bron, west brook. Ad and bron will want max money so if they want to leave, they’re likely to sign and trade to get most possible money which only the lakers can offer
@@JonJon-mn7zt the mickey mouse ring argument makes no sense now...ask anyone who uses that phrase what it even implies and you're guaranteed to end that Convo whilst being called a bronsexual...😂
Lack of Spacing due to Westbrook’s inefficient jumper and lack of role players who can shoot is a big reason why they’re losing. The funny part is, this isn’t even their BIGGEST problem.
The team is old, can't defend, can't shoot, puts out inconsistent effort, had DeAndre Jordan on it, has a man made of glass on it along with an expensive turnover prone pg, etc. It'd take less time to talk about what the team has going for it.
Their biggest problem by far is Lebron!!! Sure he gets hot from 3pt range and can score like crazy in today's NBA. Here is the big problem the media and fanboys will not admitted! The elite teams play great defense and share the ball on offense. Just look how Phoenix, Milwaukee, Memphis, GS, Miami, etc...play! They don't care who has the most points, all they want to do is win!!! So the false narrative "what more can Lebron do?", is a joke! I have a suggestion, how about playing defense and stop chasing individual records and trying to enhance your "legacy"!
That wolves take saying most of their success comes from ant/towns and implying d'lo was an afterthought is pretty bad. They have a winning record when Edwards isn't playing (7-3) and they went like 6-9 without D'lo this year
Man I agree dlo is a great shooter and scores 18 a game that’s a lot for a run and gun team like the wolves. Marcell aka low critiques too much is a salty lakers fan this year like the rest of us and is backtracking on everything after ONE SHIITY year ONE. Sound like a front runner fan to me. Same shit ppl did after Lebrons first year in La where they sucked too. 10 years of haunting my ass bro we have 2 chips in the last 10 years most teams have ZERO. go be a bandwagon clippers aka clitts fan next year please and watch them choke all over again lmao.
Dlo is a great defensive leader for the t-wolves and he's putting up 18 points and 7 assists on a good true shooting percentage. Dlo to Minnesota is a unquestionable success with Minnesota sitting at the 7th seed comfortably. Ant is a better player than Dlo right now but Dlo is definitely a crucial part of the Big 3 in Minnesota.
He didn’t put in consideration how MIN was losing more than they should with KAT and Ant alone. The 3 of them function as a trio. If one of them is not playing, their chances of winning significantly drops.
@@jaybee5315 the twolves have been losing more than they should have for YEARS now. They had a star in KAT and had guys like butler, lavine, and wiggins to help. They should have definitely had more success even before ANT got there. Dlo is doing well this year bow that the twolves are actually playing defense for once. But dlo is far from an elite defender and is still not a consistent all nba level player overall imo
@@xcwilliams7980 I agree with everything you said 100x over, also we're only talking about these dudes because they were drafted by the Lakers. There are plenty of teams who have drafted much better players & either have won nothing with them or traded them away.
D'Angelo Russell has actually been a very big reason for the Wolves' success this season. He runs the offense well and has improved his defense, and is even a big reason fan atmosphere is more exciting at home games.
Facts. Dlo hasn't been getting injured a whole lot this season besides the occasional day to day issue. When he's playing consistent games, he statistically shoots and plays A Lot better than when he's out many games in a row. I also think the Wolves are building a more competitive culture since they def have the pieces to make a good playoff run.
D-Lo, BI, and Lonzo were all high profile prospects coming into the league, yet spent years in LA trying to find their footing. All 3 of them have moved on and started playing at borderline All-NBA levels. Kuz, Caruso, KCP, Clarkson, and Randle showed big promise while at LA, but it wasn't until they left that their potential really flourished. Maybe the issue is with LA's development program? The front office isn't good enough to really maximize the potential of their players?
Its all on lebron, he has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant gratification for HIMSELF. God this guy has ruined teh NBA
@@jahugo6228 You do realize they were prospects right? There's a VERY short list on 18-20 year olds who have been able to handle the pressure of winning every game straight out of college. Hell even LeBron had losing seasons his first couple of years. Again, this points to the LA front office/development team not maximizing the talent they had
The Anthony Davis trade was worth it, but the Russell Westbrook trade was not While Russ himself is not the problem (removing him from the roster will not magically fix this team), most of the Lakers problems right now stem from the front office's decisions to trade away their entire depth for a 3rd star whose fit with this team is questionable at best, as well as filling out the rest of the team with veteran minimum players because they literally have zero cap space
That’s the fairest assessment. People that don’t realize or minimize how AD was necessary in winning the chip. Russell Westbrook is a stat padder that is boosted through nothing but triple double stats. It’s good people understand how hard that is to do but what’s harder is winning a chip. It’s like Harden being an all time great scorer, but struggles too hard in the post season. Russell Westbrook stans can’t handle how bad he is because they say it’s slander but it’s genuine fact. It’s funny how he plays like he’s the de facto best player, when he’s the worst out of the big 3. It’s crazy how much mental gymnastics go towards shifting the blame to Lebron not making him better or the coaching staff not building around Russ, instead of saying he’s ass and gonna get you scraping by
@@numa2k147 Exactly bro!!!honestly they didn’t need LeBron James they could’ve waited and and continue letting the young core develop Kawhi Leonard was coming The Next season!!!!They didn’t need LeBron James They had cap space for two max players plus the young core
@@numa2k147 did that strategy work with Paul George though? The Lakers did the "wait and see" approach on him since they didn't want to trade for PG (they wanted to sign him as a free agent), and he felt offended that the Lakers didn't trade for him when they had the chance. PG felt the Lakers didn't want him, so he resigned with OKC, and when Kawhi recruited him to the Clippers, he went there too. If the Lakers did that with AD, he probably would have felt the same way Paul George did
trading ingram, ball, hart, and picks for AD was definitely worth it because you acquired a first team all nba player that was the second best player in the 2020 playoffs (some people think the best). The mistake was trading for westbrook and limiting your capspace and the quality of role players you could sign, so you end up with avery bradley and company. Nothing wrong with them, but there's a reason they're getting payed the minimum on the open market
Everyone acts like we didn't win a championship because of the AD trade, like a ring is worth the next 7 years at least. However, I agree that trading for Westbrook was a mistake.
@@itzwakk335 yeah feels like people quickly forget that the lakers had the best record, two all nba first team members, and a championship 2 years ago. Had they traded for buddy hield + signed better role players that can defend and thrive in their role, they would have been better. Also AD being injured is a major blow. Although he's fallen off, he's still a highly efficient 24 ppg + great defender
The Lakers have never been a patient franchise. Yet they are tied for most championships. Which is their goal. Shoulda coulda woulda is not how the Lakers operate.
The lakers team was so much better last season. Even without Ad, they had one of the best defenses and Lebron had the highest defensive win shares in the league. I just can’t believe they let all that go and a 1st round pick for a guy who everybody said wasn’t gonna fit, just wow! They really came into the season thinking 36 year old Ariza would be their best perimeter defender.
Lakers got scared of another 2nd to 7th slide situation happening. They thought trading for a 3rd star would help limit the blow and help right the ship if LeBron and AD were out at the same time. They should've tried trading for Dame instead of Russ.
Here's why the Patriots the jordan bulls Larry Bird Celtics magic Johnson Lakers the Golden State warriors are so successful they have a philosophy you get two or three Core players and you have pieces around them the pieces are interchangeable that comes with free agent and draft you don't mortgage the future trading draft picks and signing free agents AKA Washington Redskins first year under Dan Schneider who signed every top free agent he could and ended up with a 3 and 13 team the Lakers franchise is about to find out
It's crazy that JC is basically the same player he was in his last 2 years with LA. The fit matters, and he's proof. Hell, Kuz is proof - Lonzo is proof
Lonzo not as much, he’s a much better player right now than he was in the past, I don’t think it’s anything about his fit when he’s playing better in every aspect of basketball than he had previously
Clearing cap space and signing LeBron is questionable. He added a lot of value to the team, but shifted their focus from building for the future to winning a championship ASAP. The AD trade was worth it. They went from not making the playoffs to winning the championship. The Westbrook trade was the problem. They should have kept the championship team together. They were on the road to repeating, but injuries happened.
Trading for Anthony davis was worth it i dont give a flying f what u say a championship is so hard to accomplish thats what teams strive for the ad trade was worth it but trading Westbrook was not worth it
@Kings Will Soon Rise boo hoo knicks, nets , are a big market franchise and they haven’t won a championship since the 70’s the clippers haven’t won a championship in forever
You missed on a very big point tho. Getting LeBron "past his prime" means there's no room for these young kids to develop. Maybe they shouldn't get LBJ in the first place but that doesn't mean they all would pan out in the same way. Yes they don't have any assets and that's really bad, almost like Kobe ending era, they'll fade to oblivion in the next decade but that's the price of championships. Out of all those players I honestly only miss Zo and Caruso cause they're cheap and really good. Who gives a shit about the fraud Julius Randle
Even letting Caruso go is not really a thing since he played his whole career in LA outside this year. Let the man get his money and go his time in LA was a total success like rondo for that year or Howard
@@lakerzrule123 Caruso and kcp brought defense and some scoring of the bench, kinda reliable and cheap so yeah they shouldn't just let him walk. Westbrook really efd up their roster and potential trades and pieces they needed. Going for wing defenders and shooters was always a better option, instead they have another huge contract to deal with this off season and chemistry to develop all over again.
@@denimjeg lol 😂 another lecry fan in denial! No one counts that covid championship! It was lecry idea to trade everyone! They could have gotten derozen! But he wanted to trade everyone away for ad and russ because he thought that all they needed and he even doesn’t count that 2020 covid ymca championship! Stop making excuses!
Had Lebron kept those assets and developed them, he would have won 2 championships instead of 1. However, the 2 championships would have come in his later years - around the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons. That's the cost of the "win now" mentality - you lose patience and are unable to look ahead in the future.
The problem with the Lakers was an overcorrection after getting bounced by the Suns. For most of the season the Lakers were a top 3 seed in the west but injuries took their toll on the roster. The problem isnt the AD trade or the DLo trade or letting Randle go the problem is the fact that we panicked and let key players walk following a disappointing (and injury riddled) first round exit. Rather than add pieces and keep the core role players together we swung and missed with WB and let caruso walk for reasons unknown still. The core last season was fine. It was frustrating at times watching Kuz and KCP but overall they were a net positive. I’ll miss the young Lakers core but you can’t say that they would have 100% panned out the way they did minus BI and DLo. Sometimes a change of scenery is needed for a young player. At the end of the day the moves we made leading up to the title were worth it. We put together a title team in a 2-3 year span and they delivered. It sucks AD is injured and the front office is a dumpster fire but it is what it is not everyone can stay on top forever i suppose
Lebron’s numbers are coming at a high expense which is defensive effort and proper offensive flow. Lebron often holds the ball while the others stand around. This is bad for the overall offense and team rhythm. He should push the pace more often and move the ball around. Lebron often doesn’t try on defense. When Bron misses a layup, he’ll sink his head instead of running back on defense. Bron doesn’t close out on shooters or rotate defensively. His team plays 4 vs 5 on defense when Bron is on the floor. This is why Lebron’s high scoring output is not converting to wins. When high scoring is coupled with poor defensive effort and bad offensive flow, losing is often the result.
@@bartier861 I disagree. 2009 Lebron made the all NBA Defensive First Team. His defense and motor were different back then. But now, Lebron has to pace himself by holding the ball on offense and playing zero defense. He can still produce the same numbers but the cost is too high. 2009 Lebron would definitely will this team to the Playoffs.
I am sorry but if you think DLo isnt a BIG part of the Wolves success, you simply dont watch them He has been huge, especially defensively and while offensively he has been inconsistent, he is still a great playmaker and a really great clutch player that helped them close out MANY games
No its not If anything, they are the one organization known for getting multiple championships back to back and even created the term "Threepeat" Do some research, kid
The biggest mistake the Lakers did this season was basically exploding a championship roster just to get Westbrook. Remember, Lakers traded away Kuzma, Harrell, KCP & some picks for Westbrook, but Westbrook's contract ate up so much cap space that the Lakers couldn't re-sign Caruso and let him walk. So that Westbrook trade resulted in the Lakers losing Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, *and* Caruso. All of the Lakers free agent signings are on vet minimums, meaning that they literally scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill out their bench, and they gave up on 4 of them (Rondo, Jordan, Bazemore, and Doumbouya) during the season. I've been a Laker fan since I was 5 years old back in 2002, and after Jim Buss passed away, the Lakers front office has been deteriorating steadily. This season is one of the worst moves I've seen them do yet and I actually how that they don't make the play-in tournament so that big chances will be made for the better instead of holding onto false hope.
Definition of highsight. No matter how good those young guys are they were never going to be a championship roster. The Lakers with AD won a championship. Mystery Box logic
@Nate B exactly bud, ring is still a ring, LeBron haters just need some narrative to dismiss that championship If Clips or Celtics won in the bubble, no one will say "bubble ring"
A healthy AD is a good #2 at a championship team but that's the thing, he can't stay healthy. That's why that bubble ring isn't as respected as he managed to stay healthy because of a shortened season. I know there are teams that won championships because of injury but AD's a special case because he's always injured even before he got to Lakers and they managed to take advantage of him being healthy in the shortened season for the playoffs which is impossible in a normal season
They got no shooters, no pg, no decent big men and the bench ain't solid. Lebron handpicked his team and it became a huge problem that he didn't face. AD keeps getting injured like a broken glass and lost his passion after getting a ring. The coach is another huge issue and the GM and management department did the worst job. These are the main problems. Easy and simple.
PG - Ball, Russell SG - Caruso, Hart SF - Ingram, Clarkson PF - Kuzma, Nance Jr. C - Randle Man, that would've been my squad. Most of them played with Kobe. They could have built up together nicely.
This was pretty on point with what ive been saying about the lakers front office and what really separates “buying” from “building”. Paying for all of these stars in attempt to have a cakewalk to a ring is only giving them a few years to be successful before they lose all those stars and have to start from scratch.
lebron wants titles and he wants them quick, that's what this is all about. They could have a fantastic core group of young players with lebron, but no, LBJ is selfish and short sighted. He's a great player, one of the best ever, but he has so many negative incidents, there is no way he belongs to be mention with MJ, Kobe, etc.
My lakers have lacked patience over these years and that’s why they find themselves exactly where they are now! We had a great young core of players and most of them are doing their thing around the league
nah. ingram was getting better on the lakers, his last season there it became evident that would be good. lonzo needed to get outa LA. mentally he wasnt ready to be the face of the lakers. kuzma developed on the lakers and reached his ceiling there. hart also reached his ceiling there.
@@bartier861 he definitely wasnt ready to be the face. But he wasnt ready to just be a quality player for them. It takes a lot mentally to be a laker. To constantly be scrutinised even when doing well. He needed to ger outa LA to a small market team and quietly develep at his own pace
@@beli2431 lol he plays for the bulls last time I checked that’s not a small market and they’re winning, just bc they built the wrong team lebron’s first year as a laker doesn’t mean it’s the young players fault
Honestly my question is what is the lakers development team doing? Their picks over the last decade actually haven’t been terrible, but literally every young player they draft never develop on their team well until they go to a new team… just a lil sus
cuz, they're playing for terrible franchises. it's ez to get 15 points per game in the Wolves, Bullets, etc. But the LAKERS are championship team. They can't get 10 points on a QUALITY team. Look at D'O at GS. EXPOSED!!!!
@@herohour6496 look at Wiggins on the warriors, career year. Ur point is even worse when u consider the lakers aren’t even close to a good team this year and yet their young players on this team are playing horribly as usual. Even in 2019 when the lakers missed the playoffs, they had all great young players, all of whom played worse than they have played after leaving the lakers. Ur point is dumb as hell, the lakers were good for one year, that is not a championship team Oh, and the bullets don’t exist. They are the wizards bro. It’s not the 70s
@@herohour6496 Lakers ain't a championship team when they can't even keep there players and develop them look at other teams who developed all star caliber players
It's because the Lakers aren't known for developing young talent. Been a Laker fan since '02 and literally the last homegrown talent the Lakers produced is Kobe. Ever since then, Lakers don't have the patience to develop. Even during the post-Kobe years in 2016-2018 and they were at the bottom of the league, Lakers' FO were getting frustrated because it's LA, "the city of champions", losing all of those games isn't in their DNA. So instead of developing young talent, they used them as trade bait to bring in superstars and other big names, even if they don't fit with each other. It's tragic if you really think about it.
Great video, as a pels fan I’m appreciative of the dumpster fire the lakers had however lonzo Improved bc of Fred Vinson the shooting guru who changed lonzos shot
The bottom line, trading away their young pieces the first time (AD trade) was 1000% worth it because they won a championship. Lonzo, BI, Randle and hart weren’t winning anything for the lakers. The Westbrook trade though, any novice could have seen this was never gonna work. Westbrook is a ball dominate PG who can’t shoot and isn’t very efficient. I don’t know why Lebron was so hell bent on gettin him to the lakers, maybe his ego wanted to say “see i can win with anyone” 🤷🏽♂️ Either way, it’s cool to see the young guys the lakers had do well individually on other teams, but had most still been in LA, at BEST the are a 7 seed team and have 0 chance at really contending.
@Kings Will Soon Rise Weren’t going for star power, they overreacted to AD being injured and bron’s fluke injury last year and wanted someone able to carry the load in the regular season which Russ has been able to do in previous years.
So many 'good' decisions made by LeGM here. So many young and potential players traded away or walked away so LeBron could get his friends like AD, Melo and Westbrook who by the way are either injury prone, quickly declining or washed up. LeGM just doing LeGM things... Also it was quite nice to hear that pretty much everyone who was either traded away or walked away from LA and from LeBron have been developing and playing better. Funny thing how players get better when they manage to get away from LeBron...
u are acting like they didnt do this when kobe was there. its the lakers ppl expect them to be a championship team and a must see on tv team. they did the malone, gp , howard, nash trades which failed horribly. 2019 was the closest rebuild lakers have and they missed the playoffs, traded AD for the young guys and won 2020 with caruso, kuzma having big roles. Its different from other teams like the Pelicans because theyre a small market team ofc young guys are gonna ball there. dont forget DLo was trash on GSW when he was traded from a young team nets
@@Theterminato2013 well u guessed wrong. Im a mavs fan.. also Im not defending bron here Im just saying the Lakers are always doing these big trades because they want to compete. cmon sir thats all in ur head RENT FREE ? bron? I didnt even mention him. I mentioned kobe because hes the only rookie that I know that started in Lakers that flourished there. after that it was just big trades all around.
@@kameronjackson9626 won a chip having to play the Trailblazers, Rockets with Russ, the Nuggets and the only championship caliber team they did play was the Heat who weren't even healthy. they make it seem like the Lakers could've easily been a championship team last year and this year just because of Caruso and swapping Westbrook with Derozan or Buddy Hield?? they just believe in Lebron and that's it, they are not looking at this team rationally.
Imagine a lineup like this PG- Lonzo Ball SG- Deangelo Russell SF- Brandon Ingram PF- Lebron James C- Zubac Bench- Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson They would have been competing for a chip last year and this year for sure if they had just been patient
Thank you lol I’ve been saying this to anyone who will listen since 2017-18. I wanted to see what those young players could do from the jump and knew we’d get a ring or two and be trash for the next decade once we got Lebron and let everyone go.
They ruined this team to please James and for that there is no recovery ask Cleveland? Miami is still fighting back. They had a great team with young players but they had to give him what he wanted? No bubble no Championship? No caller dwellers for decade!!
I remember watching the 2016 draft, a draft analyst said “for the first few years Simmons will look like the better player but 5 years down the line Ingram will be much better then Simmons”. To me, this is one of the greatest draft takes I’ve ever heard.
Dayum, Lebron Lonzo BI Kuzma Brook lopez with JC Caruso and Josh Hart off the bench is way better than even the championship team. Even if they let Randle and Dlo go for assets, so that everyone gets paid, the remaining guys are way too good. And they can go small ball and Big on all 5 positions. The basic problem is team chemistry with all the players being borderline all stars or borderline all nba.
Yes they are, very good, but they are not good at developing that talent. I would have rather stuck with the young guys just for the potential of having a good long-term future. With Lebron, you got three crappy years and one championship which, I believe, if it wasn't for the bubble and the four months off, either Lebron or Davis would have gone injured and because of that, they would not have gotten that championship. They got lucky, success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. The only thing I give the Lakers credit for, is being prepared, when the opportunity presented itself, that opportunity came in the form of a pandemic and four months off, but that's not the point, Lakers were ready. However, you see what happens when they don't have four months off during the season, either one or both of them are always injured because one is made of glass and the other one is old.
I believe it was worth it, they won a championship they traded to surround an all time great with talent that suited him with a great co star and supporting cast , and sure they had “10 years of irrelevancy” even tho from 2010-2013 they where a championship caliber team until Kobe tore his Achilles the last 3 of his career where just him playing his career out and then from 2016 to 2018 they where irrelevant but you also have to consider that just because all these young guys developed doesn’t mean they would’ve on the lakers, D’Lo was not going to stay unless they traded the entire team, Kuzma was too stuck in his Hollywood lifestyle to play well there, Lonzo needed a change of scenery especially after not reaching the hype that was unfairly shoved onto him not just by the fans but Magic himself, Brandon and Caruso are the only players that would most likely develop to what they are now on the Lakers
@@jayt214 and yet regressed on offense, it wasn’t a narrative it was the truth, now that he got out of LA and landed on Washington he had a clean start out of that hollywood limelight
That was a title with an asterisk. The bubble scenario allowed AD to heal, and it ensured he would only have to stay healthy for a short time. I don't think it should count as much as a regular title.
You seem to gloss over a very big part of keeping the young core which is how expensive that roster would have been. Keeping Ingram, lonzo, Ingram and Randall would have put the Lakers at the salary cap for a mediocre team. This is the whole point of teams consolidating assets to get a star. All of the moves made an order to free up cap space for the ad trade and the AD trade itself we're definitely worth it. The Lakers want to championship so they automatically won the trade. Look how many teams like the Nets and the Clippers mortgage their future and accomplish nothing. The Lakers didn't really start messing up until after they want a championship. Specifically, the Westbrook trade has been disastrous and will hurt them for years into the future.
exactly. Keeping that young core would've put the Lakers over the cap with a very mediocre squad. Without AD, they don't win a title, so, that trade is an automatic win. The Westbrook trade is really what screwed things up for them
They’ve definitely made some mistakes but I don’t want to hear about player’s performing better outside the organization when they still aren’t winning. Except for Lonzo, these players are putting up stats on bad teams
I will never make an exception for any titles to do injuries because that happens every year, but I stand firm in believing if it wasn’t for a pandemic and a bunch of wacky shit the lakers never win that title anyway. AD never gets healthy the other teams don’t get out of rhythm and I damn sure don’t believe the heat make it through the east. That bubble year was so awkward and even though it isn’t the lakers fault I don’t put a whole lot into that title when multiple players said they didn’t even wanna be there. So I say all this to simply say that the lakers traded all there future talent away for literally nothing if it was for a world wide pandemic
Other star players on other teams were able to get healthy as well. And the Lakers also got out of rhythm. They were beginning to peak before the season got shut down and were on pace to win 63-64 games. It’s dumb to think the Lakers benefitted while every one else didn’t.
Getting Lebron was a mistake, the bubble chip was the least satisfying championship in NBA history aside from one of the GSW ones. Now we going to back to where we were when Kobe retired with even less draft picks.
@@skinniesANDtitties nothing to brag about with the bubble championship, none of those series ever got dangerous. we gonna brag about beating an injured Heat team?
@@fernygee89 Congratulations to the best player in the league and at that point a top 5 player in the league for beating the Trailblazers, Jokic and Murray in their 2nd playoff series and the the Rockets with Lebron's favorite player. The Heat weren't even 90% and somehow that series went to 6. If the Lakers beat the Clippers that year or somehow the Nets were healthy, hell if just Bam and Dragic didn't get injured then yea they would deserve all the praise but that championship felt like the Lakers lucked out on getting truly tested and when they finally matched up against a team that looked championship caliber they're 2nd and 3rd best player are hobbled.
@@BEDCORN LOL you’re just trying way to hard to downplay the Lakers winning it that year and that’s fine. The nuggets who were also the 3rd seed and came back 3-1 to beat the clippers? Why even bring up the Clippers when they were the ones that shit the bed in the playoffs. The Lakers did everything they needed to do in order to face them in the WCF. That finals wasn’t as close as people make it seem to be. The first 3 Lakers wins were all pretty decisive victories. And it would’ve ended in 5 if it not for a blown wide open 3 by Danny Green. The next game they handled business and were up by 40 at one point. But I get it you wanna dismiss that championship lol
Lakers could've just fired Vogel, stayed away from Lebron and had a young great unit of PG Lonzo SG Josh Hart, SF Ingram PF Randle C Zubac with Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kuzma Caruso, KCP and others coming off the bench. Yes they wouldn't have a ring, but this would be a top 5 team in the west right now.
No it’s not because cap space exist 😂😂 lakers cant afford all those players so the lakers wont be a top 5 team in the west and lakers getting bron and ad was good
Great unit? Top 5? Stop it. You’re just pulling something out of your butt, More like 8th seed at BEST. Not a single of them are a superstar. You need a superstar to reach top 5.
The trades the LAkers made made sense at the time. What I've always had a problem with is their development staff. As a Raps fan, the Raps traded Demar, Pottle, and JV for a title. IF a team thinks they can win a title, they have to make the sacrifice. The difference is that Toronto developed and held on to some of their young guys and now Freddy, Pascal and OG are playing playoff level basketball. They only had one losing season and that was a weird Tampa Bay thing. If this is the only down year for the Lakers, then I think it was worth it, but how do they get draft picks? Who is scouting and finding undrafted talent? More importantly, who is running their development staff?
Fellow Raps fan here. No one seems to excoriate the Lakers for having crappy player development staff. The scouting did their job. As for who is running things in the development staff and for much of the front office...Kurt and Linda Rambis according to SAS, he went off on those two today on ESPN.
@@ChairmanMo They are part of the problem, cuz Linda and Jeanie are close friends and she beeing putting only ppl close to her in power cuz of family bs, it's why ashe has to go no matter what, she's a cancer in this franchise and Dr. Buss must rolling over his grave seeing his daughter fuck up the franchise like that
Just a correction on the title. Mistakes LeCruit has made since joining the Lakers in 2018. Dumping young talent after young talent, always looking for another big name to win him another paper ring
So…… there has to be a video on the clippers and nets moves too right? Moves that haven’t resulted in a championship… let alone a conference finals appearance for both.
You just made me laugh hard af bro😂 I’m a nets fan so I understand but I ain’t gon act like the Nets are on the same tier as the lakers historically. Lakers are the championship pedigree NBA team so they gon get the biggest criticisms as well as highest praise. Give and take
🤣🤣 ask any team would they trade a championship for a "10 year drought". There are still 6 teams who have never won a championship. Seeing how James has delivered a chip to every franchise he's played for I can see why his opinion matters the most. Stop the 🧢
My dad says he's not past Elgin Baylor yet. I cant vouch, but hes certainly not a greater Laker than Jerry West (as a player lmao - West is the goat of GMs)
I also think LeBron not a all time Laker Magic Kareem Kobe Shaq Jerry West George Mikan Elgin Baylor James Worthy Wilt Norm Nixon Michael Cooper Jammal Wilkes Derek Fisher Byron Scott Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel AC Green Rick Fox Gail Goodrich Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Vern Mikkleson and Robert Horry are all better Lakers than LeBron
Lakers need to trade Bron and Ad in the offseason in order to get as much draft capital as possible. This will allow them to invest in their future. AD's best days are behind him and Lebron has already made it clear he will do anything it takes in order to play with Bronny, even if it means leaving LA. If you're the Lakers front office, might as well try and get as much as you can for Bron/AD rather than coming up empty handed.
Was it worth it for one chip? Hell, yeah! What type of question is that? Yeah, this team is gonna go through another dark era, but if I had to chose to do it again, I would.
In all honesty the major mistakes didn't nt really rear their head till the Westbrook trade. Nobody could have predicted it would be this bad though. And it really shouldn’t be. The first half of the season this team blew like 10-15 completely winnable games and some huge leads. Now injuries have piled up and the spirit is broken. Also stars didn’t want to come to LA before Lebron because the front office was a disaster with the Buss civil war. While it can still be argued they are lacking a good culture it is no where near as bad now. Once Lebron leaves stars will come again.
Yeah I agree the Russ trade makes everyone look at this team sideways even the lebron signing looked stupid for one year in 2019 when he missed the playoffs! Everyone said trade him after that year. And his take on no stars wanted to come to La is straight bs too. Kobe retired in 2016 ate up cap and finally called it a career. Lebron signs in 2018… that’s 2 years so what? Once lebron leaves stars are going to be eyeing the lakers big time who wouldn’t?! Low is an idiot if he thinks no stars want to play in La Lmaoooo biggest joke I’ve heard. Lakers and Celtics have been built by stars their whole History why would that change later? The fact that he made a video about the lakers and they suck so much ass on national tv getting killed shows how much power they have even when shitty.
@@lakerzrule123 There was a short period after Dwight Howard came and bounced and Kobe got injured. that stars didn't want to come. I think they knew that. That is why the they gave him such a huge final contract out of loyalty.And yeah it lasted a a whole 3-4 years. Most of the stars that spurned us didn't pan out that well anyways though. Melo started slipping, Aldridge was ok but never lived up to expectations. Derozan finally blew up this year but he is not really the face of a franchise. Paul George verdict is still out but looks meh. If anything this video demonstrates how good our front office performed since Jim Buss was ousted. They made solid picks in the draft( missed out on Mitchel,Tatum and Booker though) got rid of those terrible contracts except Deng which finally is paid off this year. The championship team was super well constructed except they should have signed Melo back then instead of Dudley. The next year was not bad either. They just had obvious chemistry issues and Vogel's lack of ability to motivate and make adjustments started to show. In fact I place a lot of the responsibility on Vogel. He doesn't know how to coach stars and veterans. He let this team come into the season soft. He is scared of Lebron. Speaking of soft AD has now turned in two straight soft seasons. Coming in to camp out of shape.
@Kevin Green The organization just needs to build an identity and clear hierarchy. That will take time. It’s no where even close to as bad as the Jim Buss years though. They need a coach any coach that will make logical decisions, hold players accountable and establish consistent ( hell no to 50 different starting lineups). But yeah they need to also move on from the “Lebron System” send him to Philly for Tobias Harris and some picks. Send AD to Chicago for Vucevic ,Caruso and a pick. Let Westbrook play out is contract. Maybe he gains value running the show again and they can buy him out or trade him by next deadline.
B. Windhorst spoke truth. LAL opted for LBJ thus young developing players are traded for vets, as he doesn’t have the patience or time to mesh with them. LAL is in trouble as they cannot rebuild quickly. They aren’t 1-2 trades away as LBJ, AD & RW won’t justify multiple 1st Rounders…unless they can fool SAC or NYK.
The “Bubble Championship” was weak. They only got it bc they played so few games AD & LJ didn’t break down yet. That is the only reason they have it. The next 10+ years are going to be psi for LAL fans. Starting with who wants to coach there? How U going to get rid of Westbrook?? Good luck, not.
Getting rid of Lonzo was silly. This was said from the very start. Ingram was average at that time and with Lebron on the team, he has no place to play so i get that trade. But ball ... that was naive. Then you have your bench. Till date i'll never understand getting rid of Kuzma and Caruso. But the biggest point i wanna point out is this ... You never once mentioned Lebron. He gets at the very least 50% of the blame for this debacle. I dont care if your heart bleeds Lebron rather than purple and gold, you gotta see this very fact. So yes the Lebron experiment failed. Consolation prize is 1 lucky championship. You can thank China for giving you Covid, or else that title would never have reached LA.
It ain't the front office bro this is all on Lebron lol Lebron loves to take over an organization then trade every young player it has leaving the franchise depleted.. that's his "MO". Google how many players Lebron had caused to be traded a picture will show up with an amount. .then add in the rest of players from the Lakers it will shock you lol. we have a saying ; Lebron lose players all the time Bee.
I mean isn't the goal of every franchise to win a ring...I mean I would take one ring and 10 years of being bad after that,rather than 10 years of being really good team with no real chance of winning it all like Portland ...idk maybe it's just me 🤔
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It wasn’t necessary to get Russ. And it wasn’t necessary to let Caruso go
It isn’t necessary for cigarettes to exist but yet u.s. companies still make them
@@bartier861 weird flex but ok
@@TheHuskyK9 the lakers are run like a family owned barbershop
@@bartier861
Bruh what are you on about? 😂
Russ > bald eagle
Trading for AD wasn’t the problem. He was already a superstar, and the Lakers are absolutely horrible at developing talent. The moves we made (and didn’t make) in the 2 offseasons after it-especially this last one-and the health of Anthony Davis being as questionable as Mackelmore’s Grammysre the reasons why we’re fucked. We didn’t develop Kyle then traded him and KCP for Russ which is the worst move in franchise history, we overvalued THT instead of trading him, and most damningly we let Caruso walk for absolutely nothing.
No, the AD trade cost them their young core group, LBJ has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant success for HIS legacy. One bubble title with a big asterisk wasn't worth it
tbh it's perfectly fair to reach back 5 years and include Randle and DLo since the we're talking about the next 5 years.
That’s the gm who signed deng and mozgov right?
That is kind of right, for example, in 2010, I was so disappointed they let go of Trevor, I loved Trevor when he was with the Lakers, he was just clutch and a great defender and made winning place, especially against Denver. He could have been Kobe Bryant's Scottie Pippen, obviously not as good, but he could have filled a similar role.
I'ma keep it short none of those pieces we traded away are gonna be the main piece of a championship team...
I'm not a Lakers fan, but I believe they're trying to do what the Warriors did. The Warriors won a finals with Steph and Klay. And then after they lost the finals to the same team they beat the year before, they went out and got KD and won another two finals. By getting all these stars under one roof, it seems like the Lakers are trying to become the dynasty that The Warriors once were.
Wolves are doing better for a variety of reasons, coaching, defense just to put that out there
I think the Lakers has become a place where it's very difficulty to nurture a rookie or young player, it's like expecting a chick to survive in the jungle. There's too much pressure, too many distractions, etc.
Even if LeBron and AD has left team, i still think expectation is going to be there even if the Lakers is not a popular team anymore.
Lakers traded they bright future for a covid championship😭😭😭
The other argument to be made (regardless of Lebron had come or not), would these have had enough touches to develop where they got to? Randle, Ingram, Dlo, Kuzma
I didn’t want them to trade that young core but let’s be honest, the team would’ve been good but we got a forsure championship and worst case scenario we can trade ad, bron, west brook. Ad and bron will want max money so if they want to leave, they’re likely to sign and trade to get most possible money which only the lakers can offer
Every team in the NBA would trade a decade of losing for a title. They are completely fine with the way things are playing out.
I don't think lakers regret getting rid of anyone other than Caruso. But they do regret getting Westbrook I'm sure
if only the lakers had kept carushow and lonzo id be happy already
Lakers need to fire Frank Vogal, asap!
The modern Lakers kinda suck at developing young players to their full potential.
Whenever Lebron goes to a team, that team is crafted around him. Sometimes the chemistry just isn’t there
Not many teams win one championship in 10 years. They messed up trading for Westbrook.
BRO ALL THESE FORMER PLAYERS ALL THE LAKERS HAD TO DO WAS KEEP THEM AND THEY WOULD BE FINE 😂😂😂
Not keeping together the 2019/20 roster was another mistake.
💯 they should have just ran it back
I’ve also always thought this! Also, IF they ended up repeating then the whole “Mickey Mouse Ring” argument becomes totally invalid
@@JonJon-mn7zt the mickey mouse ring argument makes no sense now...ask anyone who uses that phrase what it even implies and you're guaranteed to end that Convo whilst being called a bronsexual...😂
They was saying that roster was old as well 😂😂
Facts biggest mistake ever should have ran it back. Lakers won because of their defense not offense
Lack of Spacing due to Westbrook’s inefficient jumper and lack of role players who can shoot is a big reason why they’re losing. The funny part is, this isn’t even their BIGGEST problem.
The team is old, can't defend, can't shoot, puts out inconsistent effort, had DeAndre Jordan on it, has a man made of glass on it along with an expensive turnover prone pg, etc. It'd take less time to talk about what the team has going for it.
@Kings Will Soon Rise vet minimums aren’t the reason for where they are rn
@Kings Will Soon Rise everyone with a brain knew it wasn’t going to ever work, teams like this NEVER work
They had potential if Ad and Lebron (Mostly Ad) could stay healthy. U can see they somewhat working it out now just lack the defense Ad would bring.
Their biggest problem by far is Lebron!!! Sure he gets hot from 3pt range and can score like crazy in today's NBA.
Here is the big problem the media and fanboys will not admitted! The elite teams play great defense and share the ball on offense. Just look how Phoenix, Milwaukee, Memphis, GS, Miami, etc...play! They don't care who has the most points, all they want to do is win!!!
So the false narrative "what more can Lebron do?", is a joke! I have a suggestion, how about playing defense and stop chasing individual records and trying to enhance your "legacy"!
That wolves take saying most of their success comes from ant/towns and implying d'lo was an afterthought is pretty bad. They have a winning record when Edwards isn't playing (7-3) and they went like 6-9 without D'lo this year
Obviously not watching Wolves games and talking out of his ass.
D-Lo is the leader of the defense too. LOW just be reading stats sometimes
D-Lo isn't that guy.
@@PancakeProduct he's still a crucial part to that team
Man I agree dlo is a great shooter and scores 18 a game that’s a lot for a run and gun team like the wolves. Marcell aka low critiques too much is a salty lakers fan this year like the rest of us and is backtracking on everything after ONE SHIITY year ONE. Sound like a front runner fan to me. Same shit ppl did after Lebrons first year in La where they sucked too. 10 years of haunting my ass bro we have 2 chips in the last 10 years most teams have ZERO. go be a bandwagon clippers aka clitts fan next year please and watch them choke all over again lmao.
Dlo is a great defensive leader for the t-wolves and he's putting up 18 points and 7 assists on a good true shooting percentage. Dlo to Minnesota is a unquestionable success with Minnesota sitting at the 7th seed comfortably. Ant is a better player than Dlo right now but Dlo is definitely a crucial part of the Big 3 in Minnesota.
Thank u I was just about to say this. It’s the only thing I disagree with in this video
He didn’t put in consideration how MIN was losing more than they should with KAT and Ant alone. The 3 of them function as a trio. If one of them is not playing, their chances of winning significantly drops.
none of what u said matters bc lakers are winning the championship vs philly. nba is rigged get your bets in
@@jaybee5315 the twolves have been losing more than they should have for YEARS now. They had a star in KAT and had guys like butler, lavine, and wiggins to help. They should have definitely had more success even before ANT got there. Dlo is doing well this year bow that the twolves are actually playing defense for once. But dlo is far from an elite defender and is still not a consistent all nba level player overall imo
@@MrE_ dlo has been draymond communication-wise at the pg position.
While I largely agree with everything you said. If they just sign Derozan and Caruso instead of Westbrook this might be a totally different team
Did they do that?
i don't think derozan and lebron would be good fit tbh
Derozen and Lebron is a terrible fit
@@kameronjackson9626 not worse than Westbrook
@@mariopb3101 still a second round exit team
Not to mention josh hart, who’s been balling out in Portland
thank you for making this video. i have been talking about this young core for a long time. keep up the good work
Lakers luck on picking players with talent is spot on but developing them they could never develop them correctly
That young core has done nothing. I think people underestimate just how tough it is to win one championship
@@xcwilliams7980 I agree with everything you said 100x over, also we're only talking about these dudes because they were drafted by the Lakers. There are plenty of teams who have drafted much better players & either have won nothing with them or traded them away.
Yessss thanks for this video
@@ronin4303 Kobe? Jerry west? Divac? Magic? James worthy? Yeah learn your history bro 😊
D'Angelo Russell has actually been a very big reason for the Wolves' success this season. He runs the offense well and has improved his defense, and is even a big reason fan atmosphere is more exciting at home games.
If there's one player that Lakers should try and get back I think it's D'Lo, they need a young guard
Makes me thinking if GSW did not trade him ,would he be starting in all-star game ?? :D
Facts. Dlo hasn't been getting injured a whole lot this season besides the occasional day to day issue. When he's playing consistent games, he statistically shoots and plays A Lot better than when he's out many games in a row. I also think the Wolves are building a more competitive culture since they def have the pieces to make a good playoff run.
Man, I was SAD when they gave D’Lo up for Kyrie 🥲 I wanted them to build around D’Lo so bad
lol improved defense.
D-Lo, BI, and Lonzo were all high profile prospects coming into the league, yet spent years in LA trying to find their footing. All 3 of them have moved on and started playing at borderline All-NBA levels. Kuz, Caruso, KCP, Clarkson, and Randle showed big promise while at LA, but it wasn't until they left that their potential really flourished.
Maybe the issue is with LA's development program? The front office isn't good enough to really maximize the potential of their players?
We'll take the Chip any day.
Or maybe not all players can handle the pressure to win every game? The spotlight shines brighter at Lakers
Its all on lebron, he has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant gratification for HIMSELF. God this guy has ruined teh NBA
@@jahugo6228 You do realize they were prospects right? There's a VERY short list on 18-20 year olds who have been able to handle the pressure of winning every game straight out of college. Hell even LeBron had losing seasons his first couple of years. Again, this points to the LA front office/development team not maximizing the talent they had
LA might have the best scouting department in the league, but that goes to waste because you're right, they just can't develop their guys fast enough.
The Anthony Davis trade was worth it, but the Russell Westbrook trade was not
While Russ himself is not the problem (removing him from the roster will not magically fix this team), most of the Lakers problems right now stem from the front office's decisions to trade away their entire depth for a 3rd star whose fit with this team is questionable at best, as well as filling out the rest of the team with veteran minimum players because they literally have zero cap space
That’s the fairest assessment. People that don’t realize or minimize how AD was necessary in winning the chip. Russell Westbrook is a stat padder that is boosted through nothing but triple double stats. It’s good people understand how hard that is to do but what’s harder is winning a chip. It’s like Harden being an all time great scorer, but struggles too hard in the post season. Russell Westbrook stans can’t handle how bad he is because they say it’s slander but it’s genuine fact. It’s funny how he plays like he’s the de facto best player, when he’s the worst out of the big 3. It’s crazy how much mental gymnastics go towards shifting the blame to Lebron not making him better or the coaching staff not building around Russ, instead of saying he’s ass and gonna get you scraping by
Wouldn't AD have become a FA the next season? would waiting 1 more year and keeping the traded pieces not have been worth it?
Lol y'all should have waited for AD's contract to run out. And you all knew he was leaving as well 🤦🏾♂
@@numa2k147 Exactly bro!!!honestly they didn’t need LeBron James they could’ve waited and and continue letting the young core develop Kawhi Leonard was coming The Next season!!!!They didn’t need LeBron James They had cap space for two max players plus the young core
@@numa2k147 did that strategy work with Paul George though? The Lakers did the "wait and see" approach on him since they didn't want to trade for PG (they wanted to sign him as a free agent), and he felt offended that the Lakers didn't trade for him when they had the chance. PG felt the Lakers didn't want him, so he resigned with OKC, and when Kawhi recruited him to the Clippers, he went there too. If the Lakers did that with AD, he probably would have felt the same way Paul George did
trading ingram, ball, hart, and picks for AD was definitely worth it because you acquired a first team all nba player that was the second best player in the 2020 playoffs (some people think the best). The mistake was trading for westbrook and limiting your capspace and the quality of role players you could sign, so you end up with avery bradley and company. Nothing wrong with them, but there's a reason they're getting payed the minimum on the open market
A person that makes sense
Everyone acts like we didn't win a championship because of the AD trade, like a ring is worth the next 7 years at least. However, I agree that trading for Westbrook was a mistake.
thank you! finally someone that makes sense and isnt just riding dumb narratives
@@josephsolorio748 why tf did they trade danny green😂 it’s funny how the next year he had career highs in 3pm and 3pa
@@itzwakk335 yeah feels like people quickly forget that the lakers had the best record, two all nba first team members, and a championship 2 years ago. Had they traded for buddy hield + signed better role players that can defend and thrive in their role, they would have been better. Also AD being injured is a major blow. Although he's fallen off, he's still a highly efficient 24 ppg + great defender
Patience is a virtue
The Lakers are not a virtuous franchise anymore.
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
The Lakers have never been a patient franchise. Yet they are tied for most championships. Which is their goal. Shoulda coulda woulda is not how the Lakers operate.
The lakers team was so much better last season. Even without Ad, they had one of the best defenses and Lebron had the highest defensive win shares in the league. I just can’t believe they let all that go and a 1st round
pick for a guy who everybody said wasn’t gonna fit, just wow! They really came into the season thinking 36 year old Ariza would be their best perimeter defender.
Lakers got scared of another 2nd to 7th slide situation happening. They thought trading for a 3rd star would help limit the blow and help right the ship if LeBron and AD were out at the same time. They should've tried trading for Dame instead of Russ.
Here's why the Patriots the jordan bulls Larry Bird Celtics magic Johnson Lakers the Golden State warriors are so successful they have a philosophy you get two or three Core players and you have pieces around them the pieces are interchangeable that comes with free agent and draft you don't mortgage the future trading draft picks and signing free agents AKA Washington Redskins first year under Dan Schneider who signed every top free agent he could and ended up with a 3 and 13 team the Lakers franchise is about to find out
You forgot the Spurs.
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Pop.
5 titles.
Yessir!
It's crazy that JC is basically the same player he was in his last 2 years with LA. The fit matters, and he's proof. Hell, Kuz is proof - Lonzo is proof
Lonzo not as much, he’s a much better player right now than he was in the past, I don’t think it’s anything about his fit when he’s playing better in every aspect of basketball than he had previously
youre oversimplifying it, JC is a much better scorer in utah than he was in cleveland/LA
@@SumthingLolzy but nevertheless he's still a reliable scorer off the bench
@@RemyKingKen they made a big mistake drafting him over de'aaron fox though
@@RemyKingKen this is true. His shot was f'd up still until he went to NOLA and worked with Fred Vinson and improved as a shooter.
Any none casual fans that watches the timberwolves games will know how much dlo means to that team just the way he facilitate and leads the defense
Clearing cap space and signing LeBron is questionable. He added a lot of value to the team, but shifted their focus from building for the future to winning a championship ASAP.
The AD trade was worth it. They went from not making the playoffs to winning the championship.
The Westbrook trade was the problem. They should have kept the championship team together. They were on the road to repeating, but injuries happened.
Trading for Anthony davis was worth it i dont give a flying f what u say a championship is so hard to accomplish thats what teams strive for the ad trade was worth it but trading Westbrook was not worth it
@Kings Will Soon Rise boo hoo knicks, nets , are a big market franchise and they haven’t won a championship since the 70’s the clippers haven’t won a championship in forever
@Kings Will Soon Rise that’s what he said can’t you comprehend
@Kings Will Soon Rise u right hell I hate the Lakers but if I was in the NBA I'll wanna go to la 2 , Lakers don't grind for theres
You missed on a very big point tho. Getting LeBron "past his prime" means there's no room for these young kids to develop. Maybe they shouldn't get LBJ in the first place but that doesn't mean they all would pan out in the same way. Yes they don't have any assets and that's really bad, almost like Kobe ending era, they'll fade to oblivion in the next decade but that's the price of championships. Out of all those players I honestly only miss Zo and Caruso cause they're cheap and really good. Who gives a shit about the fraud Julius Randle
Even letting Caruso go is not really a thing since he played his whole career in LA outside this year. Let the man get his money and go his time in LA was a total success like rondo for that year or Howard
@@lakerzrule123 Caruso and kcp brought defense and some scoring of the bench, kinda reliable and cheap so yeah they shouldn't just let him walk. Westbrook really efd up their roster and potential trades and pieces they needed. Going for wing defenders and shooters was always a better option, instead they have another huge contract to deal with this off season and chemistry to develop all over again.
Lebron brought a championship. He’s not the issue. The issue is the moves they’ve made after the championship. Pelinka doesn’t know what he’s doing
You nailed it 👏👌
@@denimjeg lol 😂 another lecry fan in denial! No one counts that covid championship! It was lecry idea to trade everyone! They could have gotten derozen! But he wanted to trade everyone away for ad and russ because he thought that all they needed and he even doesn’t count that 2020 covid ymca championship! Stop making excuses!
Had Lebron kept those assets and developed them, he would have won 2 championships instead of 1. However, the 2 championships would have come in his later years - around the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons. That's the cost of the "win now" mentality - you lose patience and are unable to look ahead in the future.
The problem with the Lakers was an overcorrection after getting bounced by the Suns. For most of the season the Lakers were a top 3 seed in the west but injuries took their toll on the roster.
The problem isnt the AD trade or the DLo trade or letting Randle go the problem is the fact that we panicked and let key players walk following a disappointing (and injury riddled) first round exit. Rather than add pieces and keep the core role players together we swung and missed with WB and let caruso walk for reasons unknown still. The core last season was fine. It was frustrating at times watching Kuz and KCP but overall they were a net positive. I’ll miss the young Lakers core but you can’t say that they would have 100% panned out the way they did minus BI and DLo. Sometimes a change of scenery is needed for a young player.
At the end of the day the moves we made leading up to the title were worth it. We put together a title team in a 2-3 year span and they delivered. It sucks AD is injured and the front office is a dumpster fire but it is what it is not everyone can stay on top forever i suppose
Lebron’s numbers are coming at a high expense which is defensive effort and proper offensive flow. Lebron often holds the ball while the others stand around. This is bad for the overall offense and team rhythm. He should push the pace more often and move the ball around.
Lebron often doesn’t try on defense. When Bron misses a layup, he’ll sink his head instead of running back on defense. Bron doesn’t close out on shooters or rotate defensively. His team plays 4 vs 5 on defense when Bron is on the floor. This is why Lebron’s high scoring output is not converting to wins.
When high scoring is coupled with poor defensive effort and bad offensive flow, losing is often the result.
Their team just isn’t good, they could’ve had 09’ lebron and it wouldn’t make a diff buddy
@@bartier861 I disagree. 2009 Lebron made the all NBA Defensive First Team. His defense and motor were different back then. But now, Lebron has to pace himself by holding the ball on offense and playing zero defense. He can still produce the same numbers but the cost is too high. 2009 Lebron would definitely will this team to the Playoffs.
Astute observation
@@Oridginale24 you didn’t hear me the first time, their TEAM just isn’t good enough(harden’s voice)
@Kings Will Soon Rise instead of reading the name on the back of the jersey judge them by how their playing(right now not 2-3 years ago)
I am sorry but if you think DLo isnt a BIG part of the Wolves success, you simply dont watch them
He has been huge, especially defensively and while offensively he has been inconsistent, he is still a great playmaker and a really great clutch player that helped them close out MANY games
Exactly, ppl underrate dlo
@Kevin Green bro what💀
It’s tradition for the Lakers to ruin their roster after winning a title.
No its not
If anything, they are the one organization known for getting multiple championships back to back and even created the term "Threepeat"
Do some research, kid
@@BaithNa I guess the 90s bulls never existed
@@JJuiicceee neither did the 60’s celtics who won 8 straight
That’s cap they’ve always won 2 in a row or 3 outside of 2020. Mavs ruined their roster after their ring that was the definition of one and done
@@lakerzrule123 jerry west and wilt only ever won one
The biggest mistake the Lakers did this season was basically exploding a championship roster just to get Westbrook. Remember, Lakers traded away Kuzma, Harrell, KCP & some picks for Westbrook, but Westbrook's contract ate up so much cap space that the Lakers couldn't re-sign Caruso and let him walk. So that Westbrook trade resulted in the Lakers losing Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, *and* Caruso. All of the Lakers free agent signings are on vet minimums, meaning that they literally scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill out their bench, and they gave up on 4 of them (Rondo, Jordan, Bazemore, and Doumbouya) during the season.
I've been a Laker fan since I was 5 years old back in 2002, and after Jim Buss passed away, the Lakers front office has been deteriorating steadily. This season is one of the worst moves I've seen them do yet and I actually how that they don't make the play-in tournament so that big chances will be made for the better instead of holding onto false hope.
Definition of highsight. No matter how good those young guys are they were never going to be a championship roster. The Lakers with AD won a championship. Mystery Box logic
Bubble ring
i think keeping lonzo instead of kuz would've been better for us. literally the only thing i would change
@Nate B exactly bud, ring is still a ring, LeBron haters just need some narrative to dismiss that championship
If Clips or Celtics won in the bubble, no one will say "bubble ring"
@@AggravatedMan365
You mean the NBA bubble where every player PLAYED THEIR BEST with no distractions.
Stop downplaying the bubble.
A healthy AD is a good #2 at a championship team but that's the thing, he can't stay healthy. That's why that bubble ring isn't as respected as he managed to stay healthy because of a shortened season. I know there are teams that won championships because of injury but AD's a special case because he's always injured even before he got to Lakers and they managed to take advantage of him being healthy in the shortened season for the playoffs which is impossible in a normal season
The Lakers had plenty of home grown stars in the making. They clearly don't know how to develop young players though.
They got no shooters, no pg, no decent big men and the bench ain't solid. Lebron handpicked his team and it became a huge problem that he didn't face. AD keeps getting injured like a broken glass and lost his passion after getting a ring. The coach is another huge issue and the GM and management department did the worst job. These are the main problems. Easy and simple.
PG - Ball, Russell
SG - Caruso, Hart
SF - Ingram, Clarkson
PF - Kuzma, Nance Jr.
C - Randle
Man, that would've been my squad. Most of them played with Kobe. They could have built up together nicely.
It is a good thing Kobe is not around to see what trainwreck the Lakers have become. Goddamn, him and Shaq would have gone postal on Jeannie Buss.
This was pretty on point with what ive been saying about the lakers front office and what really separates “buying” from “building”. Paying for all of these stars in attempt to have a cakewalk to a ring is only giving them a few years to be successful before they lose all those stars and have to start from scratch.
lebron wants titles and he wants them quick, that's what this is all about. They could have a fantastic core group of young players with lebron, but no, LBJ is selfish and short sighted. He's a great player, one of the best ever, but he has so many negative incidents, there is no way he belongs to be mention with MJ, Kobe, etc.
My lakers have lacked patience over these years and that’s why they find themselves exactly where they are now! We had a great young core of players and most of them are doing their thing around the league
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
Lakers can't develop young players that's why B.I, zo, and others are doing so good right now
It’s called getting better thru time
nah. ingram was getting better on the lakers, his last season there it became evident that would be good. lonzo needed to get outa LA. mentally he wasnt ready to be the face of the lakers. kuzma developed on the lakers and reached his ceiling there. hart also reached his ceiling there.
@@beli2431 lonzo didn’t need to be the “face” of the lakers I don’t even think he gave a fuck ab that it’s called improving thru time and winning
@@bartier861 he definitely wasnt ready to be the face. But he wasnt ready to just be a quality player for them. It takes a lot mentally to be a laker. To constantly be scrutinised even when doing well. He needed to ger outa LA to a small market team and quietly develep at his own pace
@@beli2431 lol he plays for the bulls last time I checked that’s not a small market and they’re winning, just bc they built the wrong team lebron’s first year as a laker doesn’t mean it’s the young players fault
Honestly my question is what is the lakers development team doing? Their picks over the last decade actually haven’t been terrible, but literally every young player they draft never develop on their team well until they go to a new team… just a lil sus
cuz, they're playing for terrible franchises. it's ez to get 15 points per game in the Wolves, Bullets, etc. But the LAKERS are championship team. They can't get 10 points on a QUALITY team. Look at D'O at GS. EXPOSED!!!!
@@herohour6496 look at Wiggins on the warriors, career year. Ur point is even worse when u consider the lakers aren’t even close to a good team this year and yet their young players on this team are playing horribly as usual. Even in 2019 when the lakers missed the playoffs, they had all great young players, all of whom played worse than they have played after leaving the lakers. Ur point is dumb as hell, the lakers were good for one year, that is not a championship team
Oh, and the bullets don’t exist. They are the wizards bro. It’s not the 70s
@@herohour6496 Lakers ain't a championship team when they can't even keep there players and develop them look at other teams who developed all star caliber players
@@bambam2514 What teams? Name them. Have they "won" a championship? No? Then ok. No championship ring, no use in any argument
It's because the Lakers aren't known for developing young talent. Been a Laker fan since '02 and literally the last homegrown talent the Lakers produced is Kobe. Ever since then, Lakers don't have the patience to develop. Even during the post-Kobe years in 2016-2018 and they were at the bottom of the league, Lakers' FO were getting frustrated because it's LA, "the city of champions", losing all of those games isn't in their DNA. So instead of developing young talent, they used them as trade bait to bring in superstars and other big names, even if they don't fit with each other. It's tragic if you really think about it.
Great video, as a pels fan I’m appreciative of the dumpster fire the lakers had however lonzo Improved bc of Fred Vinson the shooting guru who changed lonzos shot
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
The bottom line, trading away their young pieces the first time (AD trade) was 1000% worth it because they won a championship. Lonzo, BI, Randle and hart weren’t winning anything for the lakers.
The Westbrook trade though, any novice could have seen this was never gonna work. Westbrook is a ball dominate PG who can’t shoot and isn’t very efficient. I don’t know why Lebron was so hell bent on gettin him to the lakers, maybe his ego wanted to say “see i can win with anyone” 🤷🏽♂️
Either way, it’s cool to see the young guys the lakers had do well individually on other teams, but had most still been in LA, at BEST the are a 7 seed team and have 0 chance at really contending.
Doesn’t matter the Lakers are fucked any way that’s what happens with Lebron lead teams nothing new 🤷🏽♂️
The lakers really went all in for a player that doesn’t even fit with their two stars. That’s hilarious.
They didn’t really go ALL in essentially they traded kuz, kcp, trezz and the 21st pick for russ
@Kings Will Soon Rise Weren’t going for star power, they overreacted to AD being injured and bron’s fluke injury last year and wanted someone able to carry the load in the regular season which Russ has been able to do in previous years.
@Kings Will Soon Rise Not anymore smh
@Kings Will Soon Rise Russ is that guy on a different team
They fucked up an all star a close all star and a really good point guard like damn
@Kings Will Soon Rise my ass to lazy to edit keep it pushing nigga
So many 'good' decisions made by LeGM here. So many young and potential players traded away or walked away so LeBron could get his friends like AD, Melo and Westbrook who by the way are either injury prone, quickly declining or washed up. LeGM just doing LeGM things...
Also it was quite nice to hear that pretty much everyone who was either traded away or walked away from LA and from LeBron have been developing and playing better. Funny thing how players get better when they manage to get away from LeBron...
u are acting like they didnt do this when kobe was there. its the lakers ppl expect them to be a championship team and a must see on tv team. they did the malone, gp , howard, nash trades which failed horribly. 2019 was the closest rebuild lakers have and they missed the playoffs, traded AD for the young guys and won 2020 with caruso, kuzma having big roles. Its different from other teams like the Pelicans because theyre a small market team ofc young guys are gonna ball there. dont forget DLo was trash on GSW when he was traded from a young team nets
@@Pichii21 Let me guess? You’re another one of those Bron Stan’s that think Lebron’s a better Laker all time than Kobe? LMAO 😂🤣🤡😎
@@Theterminato2013 well u guessed wrong. Im a mavs fan.. also Im not defending bron here Im just saying the Lakers are always doing these big trades because they want to compete. cmon sir thats all in ur head RENT FREE ? bron? I didnt even mention him. I mentioned kobe because hes the only rookie that I know that started in Lakers that flourished there. after that it was just big trades all around.
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
@@Chasstful Yup, front, back and side to side 😂
A chip is a chip 🤷🏾 its just getting russ that fucked everything up 😞
Blaming the team being ass all in Westbrook is crazy
@@kameronjackson9626 won a chip having to play the Trailblazers, Rockets with Russ, the Nuggets and the only championship caliber team they did play was the Heat who weren't even healthy. they make it seem like the Lakers could've easily been a championship team last year and this year just because of Caruso and swapping Westbrook with Derozan or Buddy Hield?? they just believe in Lebron and that's it, they are not looking at this team rationally.
@@BEDCORN fax’s
Imagine a lineup like this
PG- Lonzo Ball
SG- Deangelo Russell
SF- Brandon Ingram
PF- Lebron James
C- Zubac
Bench- Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson
They would have been competing for a chip last year and this year for sure if they had just been patient
Thank you lol I’ve been saying this to anyone who will listen since 2017-18. I wanted to see what those young players could do from the jump and knew we’d get a ring or two and be trash for the next decade once we got Lebron and let everyone go.
I would have preferred the Lakers have kept the young players and not traded for Davis.
@@atlanta1290 True but I think keeping those young guys, possibly a different free agent choice and I think we’re in a different position
They ruined this team to please James and for that there is no recovery ask Cleveland? Miami is still fighting back. They had a great team with young players but they had to give him what he wanted? No bubble no Championship? No caller dwellers for decade!!
I remember watching the 2016 draft, a draft analyst said “for the first few years Simmons will look like the better player but 5 years down the line Ingram will be much better then Simmons”. To me, this is one of the greatest draft takes I’ve ever heard.
Fr BI is that guy but if he stayed in LA we would never know.
Dayum, Lebron Lonzo BI Kuzma Brook lopez with JC Caruso and Josh Hart off the bench is way better than even the championship team.
Even if they let Randle and Dlo go for assets, so that everyone gets paid, the remaining guys are way too good. And they can go small ball and Big on all 5 positions.
The basic problem is team chemistry with all the players being borderline all stars or borderline all nba.
@@shadow_realm47 wrost take I've ever seen 1. Lebron doesn't play with young players 2. This team you talking about has no shooting
You gotta give credit to the New Orleans coaching and front office staff. They developed Lonzo and Ingram immediately
that's what happens when you get LeBron trade all your future players,picks than he dips and the team becomes trash
Or just be smart ab every decision you make to ensure a title run and don’t ruin your future
Yup same thing happened with the Cavs it’s like gms are scared to tell Bron no this why I fuck with Pat Riley he wasn’t taking Lebrons shit 😂
@@ChrisTookFlight or just do your job
Let’s look at the bright side here… Lakers are really really good at scouting talent and drafting 😅
and the pelicans apparently know that.
Yes they are, very good, but they are not good at developing that talent. I would have rather stuck with the young guys just for the potential of having a good long-term future. With Lebron, you got three crappy years and one championship which, I believe, if it wasn't for the bubble and the four months off, either Lebron or Davis would have gone injured and because of that, they would not have gotten that championship. They got lucky, success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. The only thing I give the Lakers credit for, is being prepared, when the opportunity presented itself, that opportunity came in the form of a pandemic and four months off, but that's not the point, Lakers were ready. However, you see what happens when they don't have four months off during the season, either one or both of them are always injured because one is made of glass and the other one is old.
I believe it was worth it, they won a championship they traded to surround an all time great with talent that suited him with a great co star and supporting cast , and sure they had “10 years of irrelevancy” even tho from 2010-2013 they where a championship caliber team until Kobe tore his Achilles the last 3 of his career where just him playing his career out and then from 2016 to 2018 they where irrelevant but you also have to consider that just because all these young guys developed doesn’t mean they would’ve on the lakers, D’Lo was not going to stay unless they traded the entire team, Kuzma was too stuck in his Hollywood lifestyle to play well there, Lonzo needed a change of scenery especially after not reaching the hype that was unfairly shoved onto him not just by the fans but Magic himself, Brandon and Caruso are the only players that would most likely develop to what they are now on the Lakers
If he was so stuck in the Hollywood lifestyle he wouldn't have improved his defense and rebounding which he did that narrative is shit
@@jayt214 and yet regressed on offense, it wasn’t a narrative it was the truth, now that he got out of LA and landed on Washington he had a clean start out of that hollywood limelight
That was a title with an asterisk. The bubble scenario allowed AD to heal, and it ensured he would only have to stay healthy for a short time. I don't think it should count as much as a regular title.
@@Chasstful nah the only titles with asterisks is the warriors 2017-2018 championships
You seem to gloss over a very big part of keeping the young core which is how expensive that roster would have been. Keeping Ingram, lonzo, Ingram and Randall would have put the Lakers at the salary cap for a mediocre team. This is the whole point of teams consolidating assets to get a star.
All of the moves made an order to free up cap space for the ad trade and the AD trade itself we're definitely worth it. The Lakers want to championship so they automatically won the trade. Look how many teams like the Nets and the Clippers mortgage their future and accomplish nothing.
The Lakers didn't really start messing up until after they want a championship. Specifically, the Westbrook trade has been disastrous and will hurt them for years into the future.
exactly. Keeping that young core would've put the Lakers over the cap with a very mediocre squad. Without AD, they don't win a title, so, that trade is an automatic win. The Westbrook trade is really what screwed things up for them
They’ve definitely made some mistakes but I don’t want to hear about player’s performing better outside the organization when they still aren’t winning. Except for Lonzo, these players are putting up stats on bad teams
Just like Lebum.
I will never make an exception for any titles to do injuries because that happens every year, but I stand firm in believing if it wasn’t for a pandemic and a bunch of wacky shit the lakers never win that title anyway. AD never gets healthy the other teams don’t get out of rhythm and I damn sure don’t believe the heat make it through the east. That bubble year was so awkward and even though it isn’t the lakers fault I don’t put a whole lot into that title when multiple players said they didn’t even wanna be there. So I say all this to simply say that the lakers traded all there future talent away for literally nothing if it was for a world wide pandemic
Other star players on other teams were able to get healthy as well. And the Lakers also got out of rhythm. They were beginning to peak before the season got shut down and were on pace to win 63-64 games. It’s dumb to think the Lakers benefitted while every one else didn’t.
@@fernygee89 I’m not saying they didn’t no matter who won I wasn’t taking that title seriously
Zubac nance and josh hart good players
They should’ve definitely kept some of their young core you can’t substitute for youth.
Right now theyve only runed half a decade - they can get it back if they trade Bron and AD. They'll lose even more if they keep throwing away picks
Or just properly build around bron and AD like they did the first time
I think they only have their 2027 first for now right? 🤔 cuz 2027 is a looonnggg time from now 😬
@@JonJon-mn7zt and 2029 pick(after the season is over)
Isn't it blatantly obvious who the REAL problem is at the Lakers?
Getting Lebron was a mistake, the bubble chip was the least satisfying championship in NBA history aside from one of the GSW ones. Now we going to back to where we were when Kobe retired with even less draft picks.
nah, you just a bron hater
@@skinniesANDtitties nothing to brag about with the bubble championship, none of those series ever got dangerous. we gonna brag about beating an injured Heat team?
@@BEDCORN The fact they gentlemen swept every team in the west is nothing to brag about?
@@fernygee89 Congratulations to the best player in the league and at that point a top 5 player in the league for beating the Trailblazers, Jokic and Murray in their 2nd playoff series and the the Rockets with Lebron's favorite player. The Heat weren't even 90% and somehow that series went to 6. If the Lakers beat the Clippers that year or somehow the Nets were healthy, hell if just Bam and Dragic didn't get injured then yea they would deserve all the praise but that championship felt like the Lakers lucked out on getting truly tested and when they finally matched up against a team that looked championship caliber they're 2nd and 3rd best player are hobbled.
@@BEDCORN LOL you’re just trying way to hard to downplay the Lakers winning it that year and that’s fine. The nuggets who were also the 3rd seed and came back 3-1 to beat the clippers? Why even bring up the Clippers when they were the ones that shit the bed in the playoffs. The Lakers did everything they needed to do in order to face them in the WCF. That finals wasn’t as close as people make it seem to be. The first 3 Lakers wins were all pretty decisive victories. And it would’ve ended in 5 if it not for a blown wide open 3 by Danny Green. The next game they handled business and were up by 40 at one point. But I get it you wanna dismiss that championship lol
Lakers could've just fired Vogel, stayed away from Lebron and had a young great unit of PG Lonzo SG Josh Hart, SF Ingram PF Randle C Zubac with Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kuzma Caruso, KCP and others coming off the bench. Yes they wouldn't have a ring, but this would be a top 5 team in the west right now.
No it’s not because cap space exist 😂😂 lakers cant afford all those players so the lakers wont be a top 5 team in the west and lakers getting bron and ad was good
Great unit? Top 5? Stop it. You’re just pulling something out of your butt,
More like 8th seed at BEST. Not a single of them are a superstar. You need a superstar to reach top 5.
why the hell would you give up a championship to be a top 5 team in the west?
@@robert2690 lol BI would be way better with roster like this spacing.
That's a second round exit at best
LeBron was the mistake. No one has courage to admit that fact though 😂😂
The trades the LAkers made made sense at the time. What I've always had a problem with is their development staff. As a Raps fan, the Raps traded Demar, Pottle, and JV for a title. IF a team thinks they can win a title, they have to make the sacrifice. The difference is that Toronto developed and held on to some of their young guys and now Freddy, Pascal and OG are playing playoff level basketball. They only had one losing season and that was a weird Tampa Bay thing.
If this is the only down year for the Lakers, then I think it was worth it, but how do they get draft picks? Who is scouting and finding undrafted talent? More importantly, who is running their development staff?
Raptors are just too tuff... They kept young pieces and made the right moves for depth, good contracts, good development. Pelinka is just incompetent
@@mariopb3101 + the fandom keep devaluing the teams assets talking too shit
No, they didn't.
Fellow Raps fan here. No one seems to excoriate the Lakers for having crappy player development staff. The scouting did their job. As for who is running things in the development staff and for much of the front office...Kurt and Linda Rambis according to SAS, he went off on those two today on ESPN.
@@ChairmanMo They are part of the problem, cuz Linda and Jeanie are close friends and she beeing putting only ppl close to her in power cuz of family bs, it's why ashe has to go no matter what, she's a cancer in this franchise and Dr. Buss must rolling over his grave seeing his daughter fuck up the franchise like that
Just a correction on the title. Mistakes LeCruit has made since joining the Lakers in 2018. Dumping young talent after young talent, always looking for another big name to win him another paper ring
So…… there has to be a video on the clippers and nets moves too right? Moves that haven’t resulted in a championship… let alone a conference finals appearance for both.
You just made me laugh hard af bro😂 I’m a nets fan so I understand but I ain’t gon act like the Nets are on the same tier as the lakers historically. Lakers are the championship pedigree NBA team so they gon get the biggest criticisms as well as highest praise. Give and take
@@RecluseSports Why don't people talk that way about the Celtics they have the same amount of chips?
@@stpbasss3773 They got most of their rings when there were 10 teams in the NBA…
@@RecluseSports true
Clippers made the conference finals last season
🤣🤣 ask any team would they trade a championship for a "10 year drought". There are still 6 teams who have never won a championship. Seeing how James has delivered a chip to every franchise he's played for I can see why his opinion matters the most. Stop the 🧢
everyone keeps mentioning the Lakers championship, but that was a Mickey Mouse ring… all that sacrifice for only one questionable triumph
The Lakers are in shambles and I’m loving it 🥰
Me too
😂😂
Lakers will not win another championship fir 30 years
Lebron James is not a Lakers all-time great. Change my mind.
My dad says he's not past Elgin Baylor yet. I cant vouch, but hes certainly not a greater Laker than Jerry West (as a player lmao - West is the goat of GMs)
Lebron is an all time great, just not a Lakers all time great.
The all time great Lakes won multiple championships.
I also think LeBron not a all time Laker Magic Kareem Kobe Shaq Jerry West George Mikan Elgin Baylor James Worthy Wilt Norm Nixon Michael Cooper Jammal Wilkes Derek Fisher Byron Scott Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel AC Green Rick Fox Gail Goodrich Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Vern Mikkleson and Robert Horry are all better Lakers than LeBron
He’s like top 10 but i would still have someone like Pau Gasol over him
Jeez...you might have something there
Their biggest mistakes were letting go of Caruso, Lonzo, Javale, and KCP
Lakers need to trade Bron and Ad in the offseason in order to get as much draft capital as possible. This will allow them to invest in their future. AD's best days are behind him and Lebron has already made it clear he will do anything it takes in order to play with Bronny, even if it means leaving LA. If you're the Lakers front office, might as well try and get as much as you can for Bron/AD rather than coming up empty handed.
Was it worth it for one chip? Hell, yeah! What type of question is that? Yeah, this team is gonna go through another dark era, but if I had to chose to do it again, I would.
I'm not even a Lakers fan, but when I saw the Westbrook trade and what they gave up to get him, I was shaking my head.
In all honesty the major mistakes didn't nt really rear their head till the Westbrook trade. Nobody could have predicted it would be this bad though. And it really shouldn’t be. The first half of the season this team blew like 10-15 completely winnable games and some huge leads. Now injuries have piled up and the spirit is broken.
Also stars didn’t want to come to LA before Lebron because the front office was a disaster with the Buss civil war. While it can still be argued they are lacking a good culture it is no where near as bad now. Once Lebron leaves stars will come again.
Yeah I agree the Russ trade makes everyone look at this team sideways even the lebron signing looked stupid for one year in 2019 when he missed the playoffs! Everyone said trade him after that year. And his take on no stars wanted to come to La is straight bs too. Kobe retired in 2016 ate up cap and finally called it a career. Lebron signs in 2018… that’s 2 years so what? Once lebron leaves stars are going to be eyeing the lakers big time who wouldn’t?! Low is an idiot if he thinks no stars want to play in La Lmaoooo biggest joke I’ve heard. Lakers and Celtics have been built by stars their whole
History why would that change later? The fact that he made a video about the lakers and they suck so much ass on national tv getting killed shows how much power they have even when shitty.
@@lakerzrule123 There was a short period after Dwight Howard came and bounced and Kobe got injured. that stars didn't want to come. I think they knew that. That is why the they gave him such a huge final contract out of loyalty.And yeah it lasted a a whole 3-4 years.
Most of the stars that spurned us didn't pan out that well anyways though. Melo started slipping, Aldridge was ok but never lived up to expectations. Derozan finally blew up this year but he is not really the face of a franchise. Paul George verdict is still out but looks meh.
If anything this video demonstrates how good our front office performed since Jim Buss was ousted. They made solid picks in the draft( missed out on Mitchel,Tatum and Booker though) got rid of those terrible contracts except Deng which finally is paid off this year.
The championship team was super well constructed except they should have signed Melo back then instead of Dudley. The next year was not bad either. They just had obvious chemistry issues and Vogel's lack of ability to motivate and make adjustments started to show.
In fact I place a lot of the responsibility on Vogel. He doesn't know how to coach stars and veterans. He let this team come into the season soft. He is scared of Lebron. Speaking of soft AD has now turned in two straight soft seasons. Coming in to camp out of shape.
@Kevin Green The organization just needs to build an identity and clear hierarchy. That will take time. It’s no where even close to as bad as the Jim Buss years though. They need a coach any coach that will make logical decisions, hold players accountable and establish consistent ( hell no to 50 different starting lineups).
But yeah they need to also move on from the “Lebron System” send him to Philly for Tobias Harris and some picks. Send AD to Chicago for Vucevic ,Caruso and a pick. Let Westbrook play out is contract. Maybe he gains value running the show again and they can buy him out or trade him by next deadline.
B. Windhorst spoke truth. LAL opted for LBJ thus young developing players are traded for vets, as he doesn’t have the patience or time to mesh with them. LAL is in trouble as they cannot rebuild quickly. They aren’t 1-2 trades away as LBJ, AD & RW won’t justify multiple 1st Rounders…unless they can fool SAC or NYK.
Also former Laker centers that could help substantially in rim protection and rebounding Zubac, McGee, Brooke Lopez, Drummond
The “Bubble Championship” was weak. They only got it bc they played so few games AD & LJ didn’t break down yet. That is the only reason they have it. The next 10+ years are going to be psi for LAL fans. Starting with who wants to coach there? How U going to get rid of Westbrook?? Good luck, not.
This is aging like milk left outside in 90 degree weather 🤣🤣
Is it? Bes talkin about the russ trade them making the wcf doesnt change that. They had to move off russ to make it work. He was right
When the Cavs had lebron we went way over the cap , paid huge penalties just to surround lebron with the best we could
Getting rid of Lonzo was silly. This was said from the very start. Ingram was average at that time and with Lebron on the team, he has no place to play so i get that trade. But ball ... that was naive. Then you have your bench. Till date i'll never understand getting rid of Kuzma and Caruso. But the biggest point i wanna point out is this ... You never once mentioned Lebron. He gets at the very least 50% of the blame for this debacle. I dont care if your heart bleeds Lebron rather than purple and gold, you gotta see this very fact. So yes the Lebron experiment failed. Consolation prize is 1 lucky championship. You can thank China for giving you Covid, or else that title would never have reached LA.
THE LAKERS SEASON IS OVER 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️😂😂.
We kept that same energy LeBron 😂😂😂
There problem is they gave up too much of there young assets for a injury prone big man and inefficiënt stat stuffer plan an simple.
It ain't the front office bro this is all on Lebron lol Lebron loves to take over an organization then trade every young player it has leaving the franchise depleted.. that's his "MO". Google how many players Lebron had caused to be traded a picture will show up with an amount. .then add in the rest of players from the Lakers it will shock you lol. we have a saying ; Lebron lose players all the time Bee.
I’m glad the lakers traded these players because most young player will never break out or develop with the lakers.
I mean isn't the goal of every franchise to win a ring...I mean I would take one ring and 10 years of being bad after that,rather than 10 years of being really good team with no real chance of winning it all like Portland ...idk maybe it's just me 🤔