Italian Trials Czech ZK-391 Semiauto Rifle

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  • @damiangrouse4564
    @damiangrouse4564 6 років тому +180

    WOW! The fit and finish on that rifle is WOW!!!

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 6 років тому +9

      You can hear the little "pop" at 9:26 when Ian pulls the pin out. Now that's some tight tolerances!

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 6 років тому +1

      The Rogue Wolf 👍

    • @sailingmaster
      @sailingmaster 6 років тому +9

      As much as my generation was taught that Eastern Europe was some kind of hellhole wasteland that was stuck in the '40s in terms of industrial capability, the Czechs were some damned fine engineers.

    • @sethlance8009
      @sethlance8009 5 років тому +1

      @@sailingmaster the Czechs were the best of the East European nation as far as firearm inovation

    • @OslikusPrime
      @OslikusPrime 3 роки тому +4

      @@sethlance8009 Please, dont call Czech republic Eastern Europe. Due to obvious reasons, we are very sensitive about it and many people here takes it almost as an insult. And it is a nonse geographically aswell. Do you can Austria for example Eastern Europe ? I dont think so. Yet, our borders runs side by side and if you look at the map, and find our capital cities, you will find out, that Vienna is about 150 km more to the east, then Prague. Yes, we were part of eastern bloc, but not by choice. It is Central Europe, not eastern. And it is more tha behind how we identify ourselves, then just feelings . Even culturally, Central Europe has it's own historical specifics and strong cultural bonds. It's us, parts of Germany (Bayern, Sachsen), Austria, Slovakia, southern Poland and Hungary.

  • @LooneyJuice
    @LooneyJuice 6 років тому +161

    What a beautiful rifle! I actually exclaimed "wow!" during one of the panning shots. I swear, almost everyone keeps referencing the usual suspects in arms development in my usual circles; US, Germans, Russians, Swiss etc. But I have a special place in my heart for the Czechs. Without fail almost every single video pertaining to a Czech firearm has captivated me even more than usual. The ZB-26 being a gorgeous recent example. Thanks for the amazing work Ian!

    • @randymagnum143
      @randymagnum143 6 років тому +10

      That is a handsome rifle. Never seen an aesthetically pleasing Russian firearm though!
      The cz75 is so much a better pistol than the Beretta.

    • @LooneyJuice
      @LooneyJuice 6 років тому +3

      I remember the deal with the CZ-75. If only... I won't lie, I'm fairly new to the Czech game, mainly due to overexposure to everything else, but the last decade or so I've been exposed to the Czechs, I feel like I'm watching lead-launching clockwork.

    • @LooneyJuice
      @LooneyJuice 6 років тому +3

      I'm sure there's a bit of irony in that story. What with an Italian pistol stealing a Czech pistol's limelight, and using an Italian knockoff of the aforementioned Czech pistol for competition! Cool little insight, thanks for that.

    • @ivanmonahhov2314
      @ivanmonahhov2314 6 років тому +2

      This rifle will take forever to manufacture

    • @allancastellon4432
      @allancastellon4432 6 років тому +3

      Randy Magnum personally the SKS and RPD look really good
      Although i love Soviet aesthetics so I might be biased

  • @kllrt
    @kllrt 6 років тому +214

    I'm a simple man, I see Czech forgotten weapon, I like the video.

    • @para-medic4990
      @para-medic4990 6 років тому +4

      Kllrt i like video*

    • @M0torsagmannen
      @M0torsagmannen 6 років тому +3

      the Czechs make some really beautiful guns

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 6 років тому +2

      Just remember, "ou" in Czech is pronounced like "oh".

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 6 років тому +1

      The audio is perfect in this video too.

    • @TheBlinkMIDF
      @TheBlinkMIDF 6 років тому +1

      Aaayyyyy Kllrt

  • @Ratzfourtyfour
    @Ratzfourtyfour 6 років тому +102

    Also when you look at Czech cars from that time, Czech engineering was pretty much at level with the German's, if not superior in some regards. I say this as a German.

    • @mortisCZ
      @mortisCZ 6 років тому +18

      Thank You in the name of my ancestors. It's a nice thing to read.:-)

    • @Krusell1994
      @Krusell1994 6 років тому +25

      Dare to say that Czech engineering was the best in the world in the time between the two great wars... Too bad soviets had to ruin everything...

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 6 років тому +13

      No, the ruination was the Soviet model of central planning meant any sort of self-driven advancement in design or manufacturing was horribly, horribly constrained, if not outright squashed. No longer "I have an idea, let's try it out and see who wants to buy it", it's submitting a request to the manufacturing bureau and waiting to see if someone in an office in town decides that your idea's worthwhile... which is hard with complex items and bureaucrats with no vision.
      Looking at the capability of design here, looking at the output from Tatra, Skoda, Praga, CKD, Avia, etc. pre-WWII... if the Nazi's hadn't invaded and the Soviets exerted control, could the Czechs have driven a world that actually looked like what was envisioned in science fiction of the day? At least stylistically...

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 6 років тому

      Czech please!

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 6 років тому

      So, it's Capitalism's fault?

  • @ThaOneDon
    @ThaOneDon 6 років тому +115

    gorgeous czechnology!

  • @MN12Guns
    @MN12Guns 6 років тому +6

    "you can re-cock the hammer by pulling on the trigger guard"
    Did not expect that one.

  • @wild_willie2671
    @wild_willie2671 6 років тому +21

    This weapon looks gorgeous...

  • @g.55centaurosimp18
    @g.55centaurosimp18 6 років тому +21

    I've never owned a gun, but damn this gun is really well made and funished, almost an artifact.

  • @PzKwT1
    @PzKwT1 6 років тому +2

    That is just a gorgeous rifle, I only hope that it shot as good as it looks , WOW

  • @vrisbrianm4720
    @vrisbrianm4720 6 років тому +8

    Seems like Forgotten Weapons has finally covered all the Czech 20s and 30s semi-auto rifles. Nice Job!

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 6 років тому

      All the ones we know about for now, anyway.

  • @adamkilby2273
    @adamkilby2273 6 років тому +137

    This is is from the 1930's and is in great condition and the howa 1500 I bought last year already looks like shit.

    • @forestalfrank1074
      @forestalfrank1074 6 років тому +15

      My friend buy a Steyr rifle, you will get some fine Austrian craftsmanship.

    • @brucerobert227
      @brucerobert227 6 років тому +4

      I didn't know that Howa's never looked like sheeee-yit

    • @legionitalia309
      @legionitalia309 6 років тому +28

      Much like your pecker, a rifle requires proper cleaning after it gets wet. Hence the difference between one you’d own and one in a reference collection.

    • @bilibiliism
      @bilibiliism 6 років тому +7

      It's a low budget gun, you get what you paid for

    • @OlOleander
      @OlOleander 6 років тому +5

      Legionitalia So who's volunteering to get theirs removed for said reference collection?
      Whose gets kept for posterity, and who keeps their for posterior?

  • @stacybrown3714
    @stacybrown3714 6 років тому +1

    Even on my phone I can see the quality of machine work. Simply elegant. Today producing it would be of astronomical cost. Thank you for such a awesome video.

  • @moemaster1966
    @moemaster1966 9 місяців тому

    I’m so amazed at how different countries had different machining styles , once you look at a firearm you can say that’s definitely Czech in design

  • @crushedcranium
    @crushedcranium 6 років тому +4

    functional art, and it's absolutely beautiful!

  • @propyne6188
    @propyne6188 6 років тому +79

    Very cool thing to czech out, indeed

    • @d4ngru5h83
      @d4ngru5h83 6 років тому +1

      propyne haha, beat me to it ;)

    • @devinthierault
      @devinthierault 6 років тому +1

      The fire rate is a bit slovak

  • @warmongerhero
    @warmongerhero 6 років тому +2

    I never thought much about Czech guns but seeing all theses guns through the ages definitely has gotten me interested.

  • @davebarrowcliffe8539
    @davebarrowcliffe8539 6 років тому +1

    You can SEE the quality of the build of this rifle. Even on video.

  • @axelord4ever
    @axelord4ever 6 років тому +11

    It's damn gorgeous. I want one.

  • @Roy_Godiksen
    @Roy_Godiksen 6 років тому +1

    The Machining of the weapon look as if it was made in the early 2000's. Smooth and presise! Incredible.

    • @firestorm165
      @firestorm165 4 роки тому

      I've seen machining done yesterday that wasn't as smooth

  • @danielwang3774
    @danielwang3774 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Forgotten Weapons this is an excellent video to end the year.

  • @Ratty98
    @Ratty98 6 років тому +2

    The Czechs never fail to impress me with the old and modern guns they have made

  • @0115Heather
    @0115Heather 5 років тому +1

    Clever engineering and excellent machining, I love the fit and finish on this rifle.

  • @joelm.8558
    @joelm.8558 Рік тому

    Amazing craftsmanship

  • @SuperSecretSquirell
    @SuperSecretSquirell 6 років тому

    That is gorgeously machined and finished.

  • @Bl4ckD0g
    @Bl4ckD0g 6 років тому +15

    I should really be asleep right now... But it's another gun I haven't heard of.

    • @josephhooton7781
      @josephhooton7781 6 років тому +2

      I think you might be watching the wrong channel if you need sleep.

  • @JohnLeePedimore
    @JohnLeePedimore 6 років тому +7

    Cool gun. It looks like a M1 Garand built by Weatherby.I assume that hinged buttplate houses a cleaning kit.
    I was watching Antiques Roadshow once and a lady had a pair of binoculars that her family had lent to the military during WWII and after the war they returned them.I guess this was a common practice during WWII for certain items.Back then optics were expensive and mostly made Europe.

    • @gunner678
      @gunner678 6 років тому +2

      JohnLeePedimore interesting. I have a pair of Lieberman und Gortz binoculars that also did service in the same way. Particularly WW1 optics were very difficult to produce. There was an infamous deal (through swiss intermediaries) that eventualy didnt happen because it was thought too immoral...British Empire rubber supplied to Germany (who had no source due to blockade/ loss of colonial supply) for german/austrian produced sniper scopes. The British parliament deemed it morally wrong!

  • @iNDREI_Ro
    @iNDREI_Ro 6 років тому

    What a beautiful piece of complicated machining.

  • @matejmatej3554
    @matejmatej3554 6 років тому +1

    Ian you are the best greetings from Slovenia keep up the great work

  • @acidtreat101
    @acidtreat101 6 років тому

    That is an absolutely beautiful rifle. The amazing condition helps, but the machining and finish and styling just really make it look amazing. I wish I could see it in person!

  • @matthewkrueger4786
    @matthewkrueger4786 6 років тому

    Oh the sphincter clenching task of pulling the trigger to drop the bolt. The finish on that rifle is fantastic.

  • @MrDposter
    @MrDposter 6 років тому

    That rifle has a very visually appealing design...clean lines

  • @MAgrippa76
    @MAgrippa76 6 років тому +2

    This is the earliest I have ever been on a FW vid!

  • @jamesranger6283
    @jamesranger6283 6 років тому

    My God the fit and finish on this rifle is astounding. You can see how shockingly well made this is. WOW.

  • @gunner678
    @gunner678 6 років тому +1

    It looks like the German Gew 41! Great video as usual. Happy New Year! The Czechs make some good weapons.

  • @guiden15
    @guiden15 6 років тому

    What a great looking rifle! some quality work done on this.

  • @alexnorris7291
    @alexnorris7291 3 роки тому

    I think there's more to the story of the gas block retaining pin than just baking in compatibility with rifle grenades.
    If this is a prototype rifle to offer around the world, that pin looks like the perfect way to make the gas system suit different cartridges without changing the technical package much at all. Calibre conversions then become a matter of changing the bolt face, the barrel, the magazine assembly, and one pin. Those parts (except the pin) can be lifted from established designs and are mostly self-contained so your tailoring costs are minimised.
    I'd also be willing to bet the designer made a bunch of different pins to take to trials in case their ammo was slightly different to what he tested with.
    3 years late, but that's my little contribution.

  • @hobbitilius
    @hobbitilius 6 років тому +2

    God, I love Czech firearms. They're so beautifully complicated.

  • @daisyruin
    @daisyruin 6 років тому

    Thanks Ian, very interesting internals on this rifle.

  • @ducomaritiem7160
    @ducomaritiem7160 6 років тому +1

    Amazing piece of technique!

  • @XeleriumDa
    @XeleriumDa 6 років тому

    What a beautiful made and preserved gun! The owners took good care of it!

  • @pistonar
    @pistonar 6 років тому

    That rifle is in such superb and just-been-manufactured condition, that when you were taking it apart, I kept wincing and thinking "Dude, be careful. You're going to scratch it". Wow. That's beautiful.

  • @RyTrapp0
    @RyTrapp0 6 років тому +1

    The more I watch these vids, the more I want to dedicate my life to collecting Czech firearms! The combination of machine work/fit & finish, clever design, and beautiful engineering is seemingly unmatched by any single nation(especially one that ISN'T some 'giant superpower').
    This is possibly just my preferences, but Czech firearms may just be the most seducing of them all

  • @jacobpaulsen9540
    @jacobpaulsen9540 6 років тому

    really beautifully engineered and machined rifle

  • @drmaudio
    @drmaudio 6 років тому

    I am always impressed by 80 year old rifles in such fantastic condition.

  • @unknownagent2597
    @unknownagent2597 6 років тому

    Magnificent riffle, such build quality

  • @Robert--cm2nf
    @Robert--cm2nf 6 років тому

    Thank you for another year of nice films and this was also a very nice one with the parts comparing to the Garand , a unique piece this rifle

  • @ravixof159
    @ravixof159 6 років тому +1

    The Czechs sure make some fine looking rifles.

  • @SPFDRum
    @SPFDRum 6 років тому +2

    Czech quality in this rifle from the video rivals that of even Germany at the time. Impressive.

  • @MelodicMurder
    @MelodicMurder 6 років тому

    The metal work is outstanding.

  • @ultradank4355
    @ultradank4355 6 років тому

    Nice looking gun. The sound the gas release flap made was funny lol.

  • @upan3259
    @upan3259 6 років тому

    Wow, the finish on this gun is beautiful.

  • @Beanpapac15
    @Beanpapac15 6 років тому +3

    "finest ever Tapco muzzle brake"

  • @longbellycaster
    @longbellycaster 6 років тому

    Beautiful machining!

  • @ParabolicBox
    @ParabolicBox 6 років тому

    That is very beautifully machined.

  • @kuttinkuddy3905
    @kuttinkuddy3905 6 років тому +4

    a beautiful work of machining! so we'll made. if firearms today were built like that I would actually buy them just to take them apart.

  • @jonathan_60503
    @jonathan_60503 2 роки тому

    Didn't see it, but someone may have already mentioned that running the gas through the cross pin also means if you've forgotten to secure the gas tube (left out that pin) the gas just vents out the giant cross hole instead of launching the unsecured gas tube forward. Plus it's immediately obvious that something went wrong. So possible a bit more soldier-proof than using a normal push pin that isn't in the gas path.

  • @8080256256
    @8080256256 6 років тому +9

    The proper pronunciation of his name is "Coat-ski" - wheres you pronounce it rather like Cut-ski. The "ou" sound is almost identical to how you'd simply spell the letter "O" to someone. Great work on the video, as always.

  • @markgordon4368
    @markgordon4368 6 років тому

    Keep up the good work and wishing you a very happy new year too.

  • @carter1940
    @carter1940 6 років тому +1

    That's a fine looking rifle.

  • @justcarcrazy
    @justcarcrazy 6 років тому

    This is some fine manufacturing.

  • @ender25ish
    @ender25ish 6 років тому

    probably one of the best looking rifles you have ever had on here as far as physical condition goes.

  • @griffn14
    @griffn14 6 років тому

    That is definitely the best hammer spring on the channel.

  • @tomalexander4327
    @tomalexander4327 6 років тому +14

    This looks like it's been fired twice, if at all.

    • @Cragified
      @Cragified 6 років тому +1

      I suspect it has been touched up. The white on the lettering makes me the most suspect because those white paints back then cracked and yellowed simply over time.

    • @mikeblair2594
      @mikeblair2594 6 років тому

      not to mention the wood finish looks brand new.

  • @lancedixon3601
    @lancedixon3601 Місяць тому +1

    IT just looks right.

  • @EricKPoorManPrepper
    @EricKPoorManPrepper 6 років тому +1

    Man that is really nicely done,.. but I would like to have seen them keep the magazine design from the ZH29 or ZB26

  • @clayrogers4532
    @clayrogers4532 6 років тому

    Beautiful rifle

  • @super_shag8685
    @super_shag8685 6 років тому +1

    the Czech really love their Domestic Arsenal

  • @ryanvargas4889
    @ryanvargas4889 6 років тому

    Incredibly rich history in just one rifle.

  • @MA-mg4cd
    @MA-mg4cd 6 років тому +2

    A reassembly video of this rifle would be highly pornographic... and greatly appreciated.

  • @herkwrencher107
    @herkwrencher107 6 років тому +38

    What's it chambered in?

  • @nathanboulton2066
    @nathanboulton2066 6 років тому

    Wow, never this early!! Thanks for another awesome video.

  • @fenrirunshackled4319
    @fenrirunshackled4319 4 роки тому

    Top 3 Italian mistakes of WWII:
    3. Invading Ethiopia again
    2. Joining the axis
    1. Rejecting Czechnology

  • @dude126
    @dude126 3 роки тому

    .....and the award for the most handsome rifle ever goes to....

  • @pie4ti
    @pie4ti 6 років тому

    beautiful gun

  • @calebbrown6735
    @calebbrown6735 6 років тому

    Such good condition

  • @JobboFett
    @JobboFett 6 років тому +1

    This looks like a really interesting rifle. Shame there aren't more examples available out in the wild!

  • @Lidoott
    @Lidoott 6 років тому +4

    I enjoy every single one of your videos Ian, but especially the Czech ones. Might have something to do with my nationality. And with your attempts to pronounce Czech words correctly... Just FYI, Germans did not occupy us in 1938 (even though you are technically right and I am sure you know the difference between annexation in 1938 and invasion in 1939). Nevertheless, excellent video, keep them coming.

  • @tangero3462
    @tangero3462 6 років тому

    In terms of complicated Czech tech, this is actually pretty tame. I like it

    • @tangero3462
      @tangero3462 6 років тому

      Also, the story behind this example is outstanding

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 6 років тому +1

    "Czech weapon"...."Lots of nifty features"
    I don't think you can separate those two phrases.
    EDIT: Also of note, two marks of brilliance. 1 - the little neat features like the hammer recocking mechanism are designed in such a way they are easily omissible, and 2 - there's a great deal of evidence of forward thought in the design, as Ian pointed out with the gas block pin and bolt hold open system that could be adapted as an auto sear. Oh, and the mag floorplate catch that is in a reasonable place to be used as a removable magazine's catch. And that the removable muzzle brake also allows for a stronger bayonet to be mounted *and* either a simpler slip-on launchable grenade OR a similar style clip-on grenade launcher attachment.
    Add a single pin and ramp cut to the bolt for the firing pin, and that top track for the OOB safety function becomes the FP advancement mechanism if fired from the bolt hold-open as an open bolt automatic. TLDR, these guys were *good* at this.

  • @michailpanchev7292
    @michailpanchev7292 6 років тому

    The hammer spring is quite similar in its design to that on the PTRS 14,5 mm anti-tank rifle. Has its undeniable assets. First of them all - it's compact. The whole assembly of the hammer and its spring take very little space.

  • @ecrogue4496
    @ecrogue4496 Рік тому

    Wow, that is really cool.

  • @MrSteelballer
    @MrSteelballer 6 років тому

    this is a beautiful rifle

  • @AlbertShell
    @AlbertShell 6 років тому +1

    Great video! You've just made one little mistake - in 1938, the Germans only occupied the Sudetenland (border areas inhabited by ethnic Germans) following the Munich Agreement. The occupation of the rest of Czechoslovakia, including Brno/Brünn, would come on 15 March 1939.

  • @jfrorn
    @jfrorn 6 років тому

    Man that's a good looking rifle!

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis 6 років тому +2

    That triggerpull close is so much better then the M1 Garand with its dumb noncense...
    This gun is clever in a lot of ways, but I think super difficult to produce and above all, EXPENSIVE!

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 6 років тому

      Thinking about this... first, when charging from a clip you don't have to worry about being in such a position where you're going to have to keep force on the bolt handle, you could fumble one up prone and as long as the clip got into the guide you could force them down with your fingers. Second, loading cartridges singly on empty is a possibility, useful if your clips are mangled/rusty or you just have loose ammo (or, given who this was from/for, ammo in wrong clips, ammo in belts, etc.) Third, the bolt handle being on the left means a right-handed shooter is taking their left hand off the foregrip to manipulate it, so keeping manipulation to a minimum is a good thing. Charge the gun w/right hand, hand goes straight back down to grip, minimal movement.
      On the M1 the charging setup is well suited because the clip's an enbloc design and the handle's on the right side where you can hold it back with the same hand inserting the clip.
      It's just a different set of design circumstances.

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 6 років тому +3

      Having the bolt close on a trigger pull is not great from a safety standpoint. Both designs could have benefited with the addition of a simple button for closing the bolt.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 6 років тому

      Is gun
      Is not safe

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 6 років тому

      No joke, and that's why we have developed procedures for handling them that make having a fatal accident far less likely, such as keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to *fire* the gun. Having the trigger do double duty for other actions makes it more likely someone will unintentionally discharge the firearm.

  • @nbenicewicz
    @nbenicewicz 6 років тому +16

    You never said what cartridge it was chambered in.

    • @Gray13475
      @Gray13475 6 років тому +2

      Most are in 7.92x57mm. 6.5×52mm Mannlicher-Carcano for the Pepperonis probably.

    • @UXB1000
      @UXB1000 6 років тому +5

      nbenicewicz He replied to a comment below; it's chambered for the 8mm Mauser.

  • @PetrVasilijevic
    @PetrVasilijevic 6 років тому +3

    ČZ Vz. 24 (9mm Browning) would be nice . Btw i am from Czech Rep. I love your videos

  • @petrolak
    @petrolak 6 років тому +6

    Koutský its not pronounced "kuht-ski", it's more like "coat-skee"
    not mean to nitpick, love the videos

  • @anadin0612
    @anadin0612 6 років тому

    That's one good looking firearm.

  • @tarstakars
    @tarstakars 6 років тому

    A lot of wows in the comments, I said the same thing after the disassembly before I even read the comments....It artwork....

  • @baconator1200
    @baconator1200 6 років тому +4

    I'm watching this at work at 4am

    • @_Nyx_
      @_Nyx_ 6 років тому

      Alexander G. At work but 5am for me lol

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 6 років тому

      I used to do that but they banned electronic devices at our workstations in October. I have to catch up at home. Ian's vide3os are usually short, but it takes me awhile to get through the C&Rsenal ones.

  • @StPaul76
    @StPaul76 6 років тому

    Another exquisite Czech weapon.. That fit and finish is spectacular. This looks a bit too expensive for the Italian army by 1943 though.. It had had it's butt kicked since 1940 and by 1943 it wasn't able to properly supply it's troops anymore let alone arm them with modern Czech semiauto rifles. I'd assume someone in the higher echelons of the Italian Army decided that bread and pasta has more practical use for soon-to-be surrendering army than new rifles that would end up in German hands anyways.

  • @PaulBury1
    @PaulBury1 6 років тому

    Ian, if you ever get an opportunity to see ZB-47, review it asap. It's lost even to us/me, I saw it only in one Czech museum.
    All info I have about it was only in it's manual, but the gun is worth czeching into, so weird, yet so beautiful.

  • @richhart7267
    @richhart7267 6 років тому

    BEAUTIFUL

  • @newdefsys
    @newdefsys 6 років тому

    Good Lord, thats a beautiful rifle, thru-&-thru !

  • @chzzyg2698
    @chzzyg2698 6 років тому

    I wish rifles were made like this today. Something to be proud of rather than a crap gun to throw in the back of the truck because it's easy to replace.

  • @robertberghane1919
    @robertberghane1919 6 років тому +1

    I wish these had made production. I would have bought one!!! I love CZ products. I have a CZ 75 and a CZ 82, both are awesome guns. I used to own a CZ 52 but sold it when 7.62x25 got scarce.

  • @Jay-du3tp
    @Jay-du3tp 6 років тому

    Looks like if an SKS and a M14 had a baby. Really nice rifle.

  • @DiggingForFacts
    @DiggingForFacts 6 років тому

    It's beautiful rifle, but it also shows you how poorly WWII Germany understood her allies. This finely tuned piece was expected to be produced in Italy, where the Carcano brought trouble enough in production.

  • @angst_
    @angst_ 6 років тому +1

    That gas pin could have been designed to easily swap out the gas port size. Different ammunition might call for a large or smaller port.