That looks pretty handy. I need to replace blades in my jointer and planer but I've got a project coming up that'll use some reclaimed heart pine that used to be a floor. I know that wood it's just going to destroy my blades so I'm going to wait until I'm finished with that. Perhaps I'll try sharpening them instead of replacing them. Thanks for the video! Great timing.
I like that you use simple Norton stone - nothing fancy - just the right amount of sharpens for such a machine. Your stone can benefit from a little bit of love and attention - lapp it with some abrasive grain /80 and 150 for the coarse and fine side/ just to clean the surfaces. Have a nice day.
Set one blade slightly to the left, the other slightly to the right. This would offset the nicks left from nails, etc., and could help eliminate the lines in the finish you mentioned.
Another good option for that particularly planer (and the reason I bought the same one): a Byrd Shelix head. Expensive, but from what I hear, well worth it. Saving for mine.
n8guy Maybe, if you are doing a ton of planing (which I'm not). Even buying the oem replacements, it would take a lot of replacements to come close the cost of one of those spiral cutters. I bought off-brand replacement knives for it for half the cost of the oem's and they appear to be just as good as the originals. Sharpen those once and they are half price again.
John Heisz Yeah, for me, one of the biggest advantages is the surface the Shelix leaves. By many accounts, there's no need to even sand afterwards. I think watching UA-cam user "mtmwood" use one like most people use a drum sander on end grain hardwood is what sealed the deal for me. But yeah, definitely a significant expense.
Hello John nice video. You can move one of the blades side ways just a little bit and that will do away with the imperfections left by the blades most of the time.
And as a bonus, you can clamp a strip of rubber in it and use it as a squeegee once your blades are nice and sharp! If you order right now, we can afford to buy office furniture. Operators are standing. BUY! Neat jig, John. Now I need to make one. The blades in my little Delta are pretty bad.
I've built one similar, only with micro adjustment. I run blades (non disposable) through grinder lightly to remove nicks and then use such jig to recreate fine and even cutting edge. I go from 220 up to 800 grit on wet sandpaper.
Great video and jig!! I have some planer knives that I need to sharpen so this will really help me like a lot of your projects and videos!!! Thanks so much for sharing with us John!!! Oh,,, I like the out takes and goofs you sometimes do, just thought I'd throw that in... W
If the nicks are on all blades in the same place and are less than 1/8" wide, just offset two of the blades to opposite sides of the head. You have some lattitude in the spacing. This will cancel out the ridge and provide a smooth cut.
Nice jig. I just flipped my knives around but already got a few chips from some knots in the walnut I was planing, so I'd love to give it a shot because they are still cutting nice besides leaving some trails. I understand you didn't totally eliminate that but, like you said, there's not much risk since the next stop is probably the garbage.
John I'm only a UA-cam viewer, but what gadgetry are you using to get the camera pans between table saw and chop saw? Very subtle but looks extremely professional.
I have wondered about in-place touching up. I've done this with the dremel on my lawnmower and wood-chipper blades (making very sure it's unplugged). Clearly for a planer, this is more invovled.
New camera? I noticed the panning at the 1 minute mark and wondered if it was creative cropping with the new 4k camera. Also love the use of the pauses in the music. (this is getting bad, I don't care about the woodworking, just the filmmaking!! uh-oh) Okay, great jig. I assume you've tried jiggling the blades left/right in the planer to get rid of the ridges? That sometimes work, with small knicks. I confess I'm more lazy than cheap and have never tried to sharpen my disposable blades...
wordsnwood The nicks were deep and wide, and there's not much room (with the pins) to stagger them, so I'll have to live with it. Until the next sharpening :) I did that follow me panning shot in another video, the first zero clearance miter saw fence video, I think. The 4k video give a lot more flexibility for stuff like that and for just regular shots, since the camera can be further back and I can just crop in close in editing. I render my videos to 720p mostly, so there's a lot of leeway.
Shop built After these are dull again, I will see if I can get a second sharpening out of them. Looks like it's possible.
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John Heisz Hy John! I don't know the Dewalt blades and how many sharpening you can get out of them safely, but I sharpened my really old homemade planer's blades 4 times already without problem (originally were 35 mm wide blades, now they are approximately 28 mm wide (I hit nails with them several times, that's the curse of recycling)). Now I'm planning to buy a new set of blades because I think it will be not safe to sharpen them again. With another full sharpening they can go down to 25-26 mm in width, and I think they will not seating securely enough in the blade locking mechanism (which is not a high quality one) to take the risk. But I think 4 sharpening out of 1 set is really a good result. Though I'm not sharpen them the way you showed, but on a dedicated blade sharpener machine at my friend. Best wishes from Hungary (and sorry for my poor English)!
***** This planer uses disposable blades that are indexed to the cutter head.
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Sorry I missed that info (I watched your video at the office :))). Mines are machine steel blades with a very simple screw lock mechanism, and are quite wide originally and probably that is why I able to sharpen them so many times.
Omarateastwind Another concern is that a lot of blades are hardened but only at the edge. That way you get a very hard blade that holds an edge, but the whole thing isn't as susceptible to breaking. As you sharpen the blade, you are removing this hardened edge and eventually you will be left with nothing but soft steel.
I have the same planer and agree about the one time limitation. The indexing pins on the cutter head are what (IMHO) prohibit multiple sharpenings. If the knives get skewed or get uneven (from use and sharpening) relative to each the pins will index the knives incorrectly relative to the cutter head surface. If you coud elongate the holes on the knives and design a knife setting jig you might get more sharpenings. I hate this planer for this reason (indexing pins).
GarageWoodworks I'd be tempted to grind them off, but the hold down bolt holes are pretty tight too, so not a lot of room to move. I figure it's best to try for one or maybe two sharpenings then trash them. If i had my time back, I would have bought a different planer, but I got this one at a pretty good price at the time.
John Heisz I too have been in this same predicament. Since it was a gift, it was hard to say no. Also, since mine was free, I have been considering the shelix head upgrade for this. Have you considered this or looked into it? I know ~1k total investment(at retail) would mean a lot for the planer and upgrade, but the carbide tips would mean ~3-4x longer durability per edge and are indexable 4x each blade purchase. From what I can see, replacements are ~$90 USD to completely replace all cutters on the head. This would mean 3 of the 4 edges from a 2 pack set for ~$90 would be used in the first side. That means you would have 2 2/3 sides remaining between sharpenings. I know its a ton of doe to throw down, but for people like me that plane by the trailer load, its gonna save a ton once I can come up with the cash to get the upgrade. Is it worth it or am I missing something?
Well thoughtout and made jig. Nice. I for one, however, could do without the music. Nothing against the music, I just prefere to work and learn without it as I find it a distraction. Otherwise, great video.
Bellevue Woodshop After both edges were sharpened, I took the burr off with the blade flat on the stone. Could take these further with a very fine diamond stone, but I don't think it's needed.
Thanks as always for the great work John, quick question about your planer set-up. You have a piece of melamine running through on which your boards run, does that make much of a difference- would you recommend adding that sort of permanent sled to any planer? Thanks
As always another great "Jigs by John"! Surprised you didn't make the cutting blade yourself. A little saw zaw blade here a little circular blade thee and wala.... Haha just kidding. Your videography gets better all the time!
I've tried this 3 times and I just can't get anything sharp. I bought the same stone, set it us as much like this as I could, and still can't sharpen them. I can't sharpen anything, and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
That looks pretty handy. I need to replace blades in my jointer and planer but I've got a project coming up that'll use some reclaimed heart pine that used to be a floor. I know that wood it's just going to destroy my blades so I'm going to wait until I'm finished with that. Perhaps I'll try sharpening them instead of replacing them. Thanks for the video! Great timing.
Nice jig indeed. I'm lucky enough to have the Tormek which sharpens planer and jointer blades like a champ.
Nice fixture John. Great video thumbs up.
I like that you use simple Norton stone - nothing fancy - just the right amount of sharpens for such a machine.
Your stone can benefit from a little bit of love and attention - lapp it with some abrasive grain /80 and 150 for the coarse and fine side/ just to clean the surfaces.
Have a nice day.
Very nice job. Few things are as satisfying as resharpening blades that are considered obsolete.
Good engineering on that, John. Way to go.
Thanks for your time.
This was an excellent video! Loved the music and format. You should bring this style back!
Some mad skillz at 1:21. Impressed!
I think one can get premium knives for this planer from Woodcraft. Apart from the cheap knives would you recommend this planer?? Thanks, 👍 🔨 🇮🇪
I like that you're not above showing us mistakes and goofs ;)
love your work man, nice jig .
Keeping this in mind when I get a planer. Great job John!
Cracking good system!! Keep up the good work John!
Great jig! I'm definitely going to use it when it comes time to sharpen my planer blades.
Set one blade slightly to the left, the other slightly to the right. This would offset the nicks left from nails, etc., and could help eliminate the lines in the finish you mentioned.
Great design John. I see this is an older video - are you still using this design currently? And if you had to remake would you make any changes?
Great project John
Another good option for that particularly planer (and the reason I bought the same one): a Byrd Shelix head. Expensive, but from what I hear, well worth it. Saving for mine.
n8guy Maybe, if you are doing a ton of planing (which I'm not). Even buying the oem replacements, it would take a lot of replacements to come close the cost of one of those spiral cutters. I bought off-brand replacement knives for it for half the cost of the oem's and they appear to be just as good as the originals. Sharpen those once and they are half price again.
John Heisz Yeah, for me, one of the biggest advantages is the surface the Shelix leaves. By many accounts, there's no need to even sand afterwards. I think watching UA-cam user "mtmwood" use one like most people use a drum sander on end grain hardwood is what sealed the deal for me. But yeah, definitely a significant expense.
Hello John nice video. You can move one of the blades side ways just a little bit and that will do away with the imperfections left by the blades most of the time.
I can see this working for all kind of blades ;-) got to make one
Really like these higher-speed, short-take(s) videos John. But that's just how my brain works I guess.
didnt recognize you without the white Adidas, lol. great vid John. thx!
Simple and effective, as usual. Thanks. Will have to keep it in mind for the future.
Kept thinking "where is he going with this jig?" All the parts didn't seem to be coming together, then boom, "I'll be damn." Nice work!
A simple and most unsophisticated and practical jig i've seen on youtube so far.. thankyou for the idea friend..
And as a bonus, you can clamp a strip of rubber in it and use it as a squeegee once your blades are nice and sharp! If you order right now, we can afford to buy office furniture. Operators are standing. BUY!
Neat jig, John. Now I need to make one. The blades in my little Delta are pretty bad.
Pretty cool! I'll just go ahead and send you my blades.
I like this jig, great build John.
I've built one similar, only with micro adjustment. I run blades (non disposable) through grinder lightly to remove nicks and then use such jig to recreate fine and even cutting edge. I go from 220 up to 800 grit on wet sandpaper.
Another awesome video. I may make something similar but retrofit it for my Worksharp.
I would never thought you could even sharpen those. I've got a nasty set in mine, I'll head up your way...
Peter Brown I'll have the beer on ice :D
Great video and jig!! I have some planer knives that I need to sharpen so this will really help me like a lot of your projects and videos!!! Thanks so much for sharing with us John!!! Oh,,, I like the out takes and goofs you sometimes do, just thought I'd throw that in... W
After I saw ur video I will buy new blade
Excellent - Thank You
If the nicks are on all blades in the same place and are less than 1/8" wide, just offset two of the blades to opposite sides of the head. You have some lattitude in the spacing. This will cancel out the ridge and provide a smooth cut.
Good video. Something to remember about sharpening planer blades: High Speed Steel is HARD.
Simple, I like it.
Nice jig. I just flipped my knives around but already got a few chips from some knots in the walnut I was planing, so I'd love to give it a shot because they are still cutting nice besides leaving some trails. I understand you didn't totally eliminate that but, like you said, there's not much risk since the next stop is probably the garbage.
Great video, plan & Great T-shirt!
l Iike the way u did the video
Thats pretty bad ass! Whats that spray u were using? Is it like simple green?
Like the new ending.
John I'm only a UA-cam viewer, but what gadgetry are you using to get the camera pans between table saw and chop saw? Very subtle but looks extremely professional.
Love the video cinematography (along with the jig), especially at 0:53 to 1:00 point where the camera follows you around :)
Good jig!
shops nice and tidy.
I have wondered about in-place touching up.
I've done this with the dremel on my lawnmower and wood-chipper blades (making very sure it's unplugged).
Clearly for a planer, this is more invovled.
queazocotal Most of the big industrial models had knife grinders built in, at least the older ones did.
You, sir, are awesome...and I don't even have a planer!
very good
New camera? I noticed the panning at the 1 minute mark and wondered if it was creative cropping with the new 4k camera. Also love the use of the pauses in the music. (this is getting bad, I don't care about the woodworking, just the filmmaking!! uh-oh)
Okay, great jig. I assume you've tried jiggling the blades left/right in the planer to get rid of the ridges? That sometimes work, with small knicks. I confess I'm more lazy than cheap and have never tried to sharpen my disposable blades...
wordsnwood The nicks were deep and wide, and there's not much room (with the pins) to stagger them, so I'll have to live with it. Until the next sharpening :)
I did that follow me panning shot in another video, the first zero clearance miter saw fence video, I think. The 4k video give a lot more flexibility for stuff like that and for just regular shots, since the camera can be further back and I can just crop in close in editing. I render my videos to 720p mostly, so there's a lot of leeway.
john nice tip.
Very clever!
Is that a new camera because the quality looks great!
clever man thank you
best homemade blade sharpener ;-)
What did you use as lubricant on the stone?
nice, i have the same planner with some old blades
Mike Fulton Give it a try. When the blades are throwaways, there nothing to lose.
Shift one of the blades left and the other 2 blades right to correct a nick in the blade.
thank you
Thumbs up for Thin Lizzy!
Neat. I love jigs.
As a Fellow Canadian, thank you for using Robertson screws.
Nice 👍
Nice! The blades for the dewalt are pricy so to get one shapen is a pretty good savings.
Shop built After these are dull again, I will see if I can get a second sharpening out of them. Looks like it's possible.
John Heisz Hy John! I don't know the Dewalt blades and how many sharpening you can get out of them safely, but I sharpened my really old homemade planer's blades 4 times already without problem (originally were 35 mm wide blades, now they are approximately 28 mm wide (I hit nails with them several times, that's the curse of recycling)). Now I'm planning to buy a new set of blades because I think it will be not safe to sharpen them again. With another full sharpening they can go down to 25-26 mm in width, and I think they will not seating securely enough in the blade locking mechanism (which is not a high quality one) to take the risk.
But I think 4 sharpening out of 1 set is really a good result. Though I'm not sharpen them the way you showed, but on a dedicated blade sharpener machine at my friend. Best wishes from Hungary (and sorry for my poor English)!
***** This planer uses disposable blades that are indexed to the cutter head.
Sorry I missed that info (I watched your video at the office :))). Mines are machine steel blades with a very simple screw lock mechanism, and are quite wide originally and probably that is why I able to sharpen them so many times.
@@JohnHeisz Why can't you just keep sharpening them over and over?
Maybe try to offset the knives ... If you manage to offset them the knicks would be in different locations and it would sort of cancel each other out
Nice jig, John. I'm not understanding why the blades can only be sharpened once...could you explain? Thanks!
***** Ah, that explains it...thanks...
Omarateastwind Another concern is that a lot of blades are hardened but only at the edge. That way you get a very hard blade that holds an edge, but the whole thing isn't as susceptible to breaking. As you sharpen the blade, you are removing this hardened edge and eventually you will be left with nothing but soft steel.
0.09: a portable band saw would be great.
I have the same planer and agree about the one time limitation. The indexing pins on the cutter head are what (IMHO) prohibit multiple sharpenings. If the knives get skewed or get uneven (from use and sharpening) relative to each the pins will index the knives incorrectly relative to the cutter head surface. If you coud elongate the holes on the knives and design a knife setting jig you might get more sharpenings. I hate this planer for this reason (indexing pins).
GarageWoodworks I'd be tempted to grind them off, but the hold down bolt holes are pretty tight too, so not a lot of room to move. I figure it's best to try for one or maybe two sharpenings then trash them.
If i had my time back, I would have bought a different planer, but I got this one at a pretty good price at the time.
John Heisz I too have been in this same predicament. Since it was a gift, it was hard to say no. Also, since mine was free, I have been considering the shelix head upgrade for this. Have you considered this or looked into it? I know ~1k total investment(at retail) would mean a lot for the planer and upgrade, but the carbide tips would mean ~3-4x longer durability per edge and are indexable 4x each blade purchase. From what I can see, replacements are ~$90 USD to completely replace all cutters on the head. This would mean 3 of the 4 edges from a 2 pack set for ~$90 would be used in the first side. That means you would have 2 2/3 sides remaining between sharpenings. I know its a ton of doe to throw down, but for people like me that plane by the trailer load, its gonna save a ton once I can come up with the cash to get the upgrade.
Is it worth it or am I missing something?
I love your shirt!!
I relly Like this kind of video keep it up :)
I'm glad you got your music licensing issues out of the way. This video is relevant to my interests :D
John please where find this plastic material 2:38.Tank you
That's a great jig John. Nice job. Douglas
I like the banner to the article at the end.
Well thoughtout and made jig. Nice. I for one, however, could do without the music. Nothing against the music, I just prefere to work and learn without it as I find it a distraction. Otherwise, great video.
Nice handy jig John...all I need now is a thicknesser.....lol
Cheers
Mike
Content looks awesome def upgrade in filming! Great project
Great Jig John, certainly keep the cost of blades down :)
Phil Sale It's like getting them for half price, since they'll do at least twice the cutting :)
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I really want one of those damn Husky retract a bit screwdrivers, but they're almost impossible to buy in the US
John Heisz Good one John. Did you lap the back of the blades also?
Bellevue Woodshop After both edges were sharpened, I took the burr off with the blade flat on the stone. Could take these further with a very fine diamond stone, but I don't think it's needed.
Nice jig, I'll just mail you my old blades! How much is shipping Canada!?😳
Thanks as always for the great work John, quick question about your planer set-up. You have a piece of melamine running through on which your boards run, does that make much of a difference- would you recommend adding that sort of permanent sled to any planer? Thanks
Thin Lizzy - greatest band ever!
Was that "yellow" glue in a mustard squeeze bottle?
No it was yellow poupon.
Nice jig! Looks like you either got one of those tracking things for your camera or else a Chuck... :)
Jer's Woodshop No Chuck and no tracking, I'm using a 4k camera now :)
As always another great "Jigs by John"! Surprised you didn't make the cutting blade yourself. A little saw zaw blade here a little circular blade thee and wala.... Haha just kidding. Your videography gets better all the time!
Nice to see that you're starting to edit the filler out of your videos
Froma tron Filler? Even when I first started making videos there wasn't any filler.
That is something usefule when I skarpen My tools.
I didn’t know mustard worked as glue 😂
Surviving the storms?
2:52 Was it Predators blood?
It would have a lot better if you would have talked instead of playing that music.
What thought I was watching how to build a sharping jig so we have to watch another???????!!!!!!!????? Confused to the point?
I've tried this 3 times and I just can't get anything sharp. I bought the same stone, set it us as much like this as I could, and still can't sharpen them. I can't sharpen anything, and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
fai a baw
1:21 Hacker confirmed?