Demolition Work after the Boiler Houses at Hatfield were Blown Up
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2024
- This is a Total Mess! They got some big Excavators to clean up the
boiler houses at Hatfield's Ferry Power Station after the demolition
of the boiler houses there.
Watch video showing the Cooling Towers being blown up:
• Cooling Towers get Blo...
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This video made January 08 and February 01, 2024
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Dave, I have spent my 30 year career working in those coal burning power plants as a boilermaker.
That was how I earned my bread and butter... Thats how I made my living! All those coal fired plants are now gone here in NJ.
Every time one of those coal power plants gets demolished, it takes a piece of me with it!!
All that I have left, is memories and stories.
I retired from Cheswick in 2021 after being transferred from Elrama when it closed down. I went into Elrama as a contractor in 2008 and they hired me. The gig lasted long enough to pay for my son's Penn State degree and pay off my bills.
But when my grandkids ask me where I worked, all I can show them are pictures.
I hear that Stevie. It is specially sad for me to see also since I worked
there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a
special love for that place, but it is what it is. When I was there they had boilermakers come in for repair work. That is one tough way to make a living. Nothing at all easy about what they did. Those guys I met back then were extremely hard workers, they definitely earned their pay. Great bunch of guys too they were. My neighbor up the road is a boilermaker, he complains all the time about lack of work
around here. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
I have found that demolition and salvage groups are incredibly efficient when it comes to cutting, sorting, and packing out all the remains of a job. Thanks for posting this, Dave!
Except the firm hired to blow the stack at the local decommissioned power station. The first try didn't quite do it. Imagine having to set new charges on a now weakened tall pile of bricks!
It appears these guys sure know what they are doing Shane! Would be really fun to run one of those excavators. Appreciate very much
your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Yep, it will be gone in no time, I enjoyed seeing the pictures of you Dad. That was decades ago and he was a young man. Thanks Dave.
Yes those photos of him on the digger truck were in the late 1960's Charles. He was a hard worker and loved his job. Thank you for the
kind words and for taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo
video my friend.
Demo is always a sad thing watching the old disappear but in with the new great video thanks Dave
Thank you Gary and you're welcome. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Wow! What a mess that is too clean up - Jenny
Yes it certainly is Jenny. This is specially sad for me to see since I worked there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a special love for that place, but it is what it is. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
@@ccrx6700 Your welcome and I guess bittersweet memories.
Interesting to watch but sad to see. Where I'm sitting right now that is the future in less than 2 years to be turned into a pile of scrap metal and broken concrete. Thanks Dave, love the pictures.
I hear that Dave. It is specially sad for me to see since I worked
there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a
special love for that place, but it is what it is. Thanks so much my
friend for checking out the Hatfield video and glad you enjoyed the
photos.
Thanks Dave. It is neat to see the pictures of your dad working to install the lines there and that you also worked at that plant in its heyday. Too bad all of it came to an end.
Your welcome Scotty. Those pics of dad were taken in the mid 1960's
black and white photos of course. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Very nice dave
Thank you Daniel. This is specially sad for me to see since I worked
there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a
special love for that place, but it is what it is. Appreciate very much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
It's hard to believe that mangled pile of ruble was removed so quickly. Love hearing about you and your Dad's past work experiences. Thanks Dave...
Thank you Steve and you are right, it is going quick, much quicker than I thought it would. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me
to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and
I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
We appreciate you Dave! You be careful out there. That safety vest can be a target sometimes.
Thank you and glad to hear that Joseph. I was willing to risk my life
so you would have a new video to watch tho.....:-) Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
That deconstruction site is the epitome of the old saw about "how do you eat an elephant?... One bite at a time!"
I do hear that Richard. Sure would be fun running one of those
excavators tearing stuff apart! Thanks so much my friend for
checking out the video on the Hatfield demolition.
It is like a piece of history going away. It is amazing how fast the pile of debris seems to be removed. When you were working there I was just starting my Air Force career. Boy that was a long time ago. Have a great day my friend.
Yes it was a long time ago Lewis. I started there in 72 and worked
until August of 77. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me
to see happen. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show. And yes, where did the time go my friend.....
THANK YOU DAVE! It appears as though you inherited your "DAD'S SMILE" and "WORK ETHICS"❗It's ALWAYS a PLEASURE to see one of your videos😁😎
Your welcome Captain Tom. Yes my dad and i do share some
resemblance. He was a good man and a hard worker. Those pics of him on the digger truck were taken mid 1960's. This was especially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
It’s always a shame to watch a boiler plant been demolished but progress takes priority excellent vid Dave thanks.
Yes it is, you are right Lawrie, but this was specially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Thanks Dave, be safe!
Your welcome and it was a bit scary being on that bridge..... But
for you it was worth it zulubravo. This was sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys there. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
What a massive clean up job!
It certainly is Derrick, but it's going a whole lot faster than I imagined
it would. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
Proud for you seeing pictures of your father. Tremendous legacy!
Thank you Jeff. Those pics of him on the digger truck were taken
in the mid 1960's. He was a good man, hard worker and loved his
job. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
I see where you got your great smile from! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you Roy. My dad was a good man and loved his job. Those pics on the digger truck were taken in mid 1960's. He passed away 9 years ago and is sadly missed. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
thanks, Dave..i'me a little teary eyed to see Hatfield go down..work there 77-80 as results tech.
Did you work for George Novak?
Yes I am also. I worked there from 72 to August 77 so tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen. When I left was in coal handling so even if you were there when I was, probably did not
know who you were. Some really good guys worked there and I have a lot of good memories and will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Had to do a double take as I live near Hatfield UK. 😅 Great video Dave.
I would certainly imagine you did Peter! The US EPA hasn't gotten
that far overseas to tear down stuff in your neighborhood yet.....:-)
Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Some items get salvaged but this day and age the scrap metal pile is where most of it goes and surely some big heaps of that we'll get the Big Snip. Likewise there will be a mountain of ground concrete to do road work projects. Thanks for the follow-up it does remind me of several large Industries that got leveled here in the Midwest. Your father looks like he enjoyed his job and it was one of those where you could proudly say I helped build that
Yes my dad did enjoy his job Paul. He was a good man and a hard worker. Those pics of him on the digger truck were taken mid 1960's. This was especially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Thank you for sharing Dave, what a massive clean up job!
You are certainly welcome Raymond. It is specially sad for me to see since I worked there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a special love for that place, but it is what it is. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
Those are some cool pics of your dad! Thanks for sharing and risking the traffic my friend.
Thank you Rich. The ones on the digger truck were taken mid 1960's.
He was a good man and loved his job as a lineman for the power
company. Appreciate very much your taking the time to visit with us
and check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Great video Dave. Thanks for taking time to share.
Thank you and you are welcome Jeffrey. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
I do appreciate your time and work Dave this was really interesting
Thank you for the nice comment Bruce, very glad you enjoyed. This is specially sad for me to see since I worked there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a special love for that place, but it is what it is. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
My Great Grandpa worked in a coal fired electric plant way back when, he told me some stories!
Cool video Dave, brought back some good memories of him . 👍👍❤️❤️🚂🚂🚂
Glad it stirred up some good memories for you Yellowlab. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 👍👍🚂🚂😁
That's some nice big equipment there! Sad they took the plant down.
Shopping? Oh yes, shopping is important, good thing you remembered! Hope you both had a good day!
Took her to the feed mill to get bird seed, she loves to feed the birds.
Then I took her grocery shopping. But I had an ulterior motive Trena, every time I take her shopping while I wait, I go rail fanning on the nearby NS tracks...:-) Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
That was some cool coverage Dave, nice to see the pics of your Dad too!
Thank you for the nice comment Dave. Very much appreciate your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield video my friend.
It's amazing how they can systematically demolish such huge structures, then sort out what can be recycled and what can't. I know there companies that have mobile crushers that can come in and grind all of that concrete up, screen the aggregates out to be used again, and then the undesirables used as fill somewhere .. of course I don't know that'll happen here. I think it's great that you have the photos of your dad doing his thing as a younger man, and the fond memories for you. Thanks for bringing us another informative and fascinating video, Dave.
Yes it certainly is amazing how they can do that Kenneth. Pics of
my dad were taken in the mid 1960's. He was a hard worker and loved
his job. But, tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and
I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
I could watch that all day! Thanks for sharing the old pictures of your dad too.
Well just go down to the Masontown bridge and sit and watch
all day Dave! This is rather sad for me to see happening since I worked there in the 1970's, but it is what it is. Thanks so much
for checking out the Hatfield demolition show my friend.
Thank you for sharing a part.of your family history. Your dad certainly set an excellent example for you to follow. The cleanup at Hatsfield Ferry Power Station is moving right along. It's now just a memory. Have you heard what will take over that site, Dave?
Your welcome Shirley. Those pics of my dad on the digger truck were
taken in the mid 1960's. He was a good man and a hard worker, sadly
missed. He passed away 9 years ago on his birthday. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. As far as the future for Hatfield goes they are hoping to attract some kind of new industry in there. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
Thanks for the update video of the plant,it's cool to hear about the history and what all the fixtures were and the fact that you worked there
You are certainly welcome Doug. This is rather sad for me to see
happening since I worked there and have been all over every foot
of that plant, but it is what it is. Really appreciate your taking the time to stop by and check out the Hatfield demolition show my friend.
Thanks for this video! For those who worked at such plants in their glory days, scenes like these must be a bittersweet experience: a reminder that everything with a beginning has an end.
Your welcome and very good words of wisdom Robin. Everything that
has a beginning has an ending. Kind needed to hear that tonight.
Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77 . Lot of good memories and
I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
@@ccrx6700 The words of wisdom are 3,000 to 5,000 years old, from the Upanishads: and a lot more there for those who may care to look.
@@tzadik36 👍😊
Interesting video Dave. Thanks for sharing! He looks a lot like you. Be careful out there on that bridge. Yes I appreciate it! I appreciate all your videos from both channels! Stay safe my Friend! I want to see many more of your amazing videos! 😃👍❤️🚂💨💨💨💨💨
Thanks for saying that Train Chasers At Work. It was worth risking
my life on that bridge just to hear you say that....:-) Those pics of
my dad on the digger truck were taken back in the mid 1960's.
he was a hard worker and loved his job. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Very nice! The fuel pipe answered a question I never had about how they get the boilers started. Makes sense to do it this way - I wouldn't want to be the guy with the matches either 😅 You have a lot of faith in your fellow roadrunners there that's for sure. The one time I had a left tire blow and was waiting for the AAA contractor change it I nearly recolored my pants on his behalf. Sheeeesh.
Elrama started the four boilers on fuel oil, then switched to coal once the units were synced and on the bus.
Cheswick started the boiler on natural gas and switched to coal once the unit was making 50 MW or so.
Yep I risked my life on that bridge, but it was worth it for you to be
able to watch this video....:-) Sure wish I had been taking videos
back then when I worked there, could have shown a whole lot of
interesting stuff. But that was from 1972 to 77 and I didn't even
know cell phones or video cameras even existed back then. Let alone
You Tube.... Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Good to see people cleaning up what would otherwise become an abandoned site.
Yes it's much better than leaving a pile of steel there curiosity.
Was sad for me to see this happen tho because I worked there
from1972 to 77, always will have a special place in my heart for
that place. Thank you for taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
I appreciate it Dave.TY❤
Your certainly welcome Ed. Thanks so much for stopping by and
checking out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Great video, and great pics of your dad. Thanks :)
Your welcome Mustraline. Those pics of dad were taken in the mid
1960's. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Risky business standing on the side of the roads, glad you had a vest on. Wow a tangled mess, but they are making short work of it, indeed. Pretty cool you got pics of your pops like that.. good stuff Dave, thanks for sharing..
Those pics of dad were taken in the mid 1960's Pappy. He was a hard
worker and loved his job. Yes I did take my life into my own hands
standing on that bridge, but it was in an all out effort to please you
with the video.....:-) You're worth it my friend.
@@ccrx6700 awe shucks, thanks Dave.. 🤣🤣
*_Clear resemblance with your dad. I got the same. My grandfather, my dad and myself all 3 look alike. Be interesting to find out what they plan on putting there on that property. You need a drone with a camera on it, then you can fly it over and not be on the road. I vote for a drive in movie theater._* 🎥
The Rust Belt, my filthy home. I love you so.
They don't call it Rust Belt for no reason do they Prentice Boy. Sad
what has happened all over. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Cool pics of your father!
Thank you John. Those pics of him on the digger truck were taken
in the mid 1960's. He was a hard worker and loved his job. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
They've sure come along way on that demo. The boss lady needs to buy bird seed more often, because we've missed to much of this work. lol! Thanks Dave, always great to get a new video from you sir.
Tomorrow will take her to get more bird seed Rick, but it's supposed to rain so don't know if I'll get more footage or not. Kinda scary being
on that bridge, but for you, it was worth it. :-) This was specially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I'm sure it was painful to see the plant meet this kind of demise. Best company I ever worked for was destroyed by one of those over educated people were talking about the other day. Thanks Mr. Dave, for all the great info you give ,
@@rickcooper6817 👍😊
Hello Dave . Wow lots of work cleaning that mess . Interesting place when it was up and Running. Great video 👍🏻👍🏻😎Robin out . Be safe
Thank you for that Robin. Those guys are making really good progress from what was a huge mess. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Wow lnteresting Dave . Strange when the place of work gets torn Down . Bud Interesting place . Your in a Bonus place know that’s RailRoading 😂😎👍🏻
@@robinroberts3335 👍😊
Well that sure is a big clean up then it will be gone only photos to Remember 👍🏻😎 That’s RailRoading 😂be safe .
@@robinroberts3335 👍😊
that "komatsu"with the magnet is actually a kobelco hehe still a really cool video :) and good history
You are right Wolvesone, after I uploaded the video to You Tube I noticed that mistake, oh well. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
Nice video Dave - a lot of steel in those boilers to cut up, hope you didn't leave the wife in the truck while you were filming before shopping. Cheers and take care
Ulterior motive in taking her grocery shopping Pete. While she is in
the store, I go rail fanning to the nearby NS tracks and i caught a
sand train that day too! Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Awesome video!! Especially about your dad!!!
Thank you for the nice comment MrCeodad. Those photos of him
on the digger truck were in the mid 1960's. He was a hard worker and
loved his job. Very much appreciate your checking out the Hatfield
video my friend.
Thanks for that update Dave. What are the plans for that place when they are done?
I also wonder whether the site will be redeveloped in some way. I have heard that some of these sites are repurposed as battery power peaker plants that are charged by wind, solar or natural gas.
Your certainly welcome Wilbur. For now the plans are to leave it
as a grassy field when it is done in the hopes that some kind of
industry will want to move in. Highly doubt that will ever happen
in our lifetime tho. I have a special love for Hatfield since I worked
there in the 1970's. This is sad for me to see. Thanks so much
my friend for stopping by to check out the video.
You want to hear something funny, Dave? A few miles south of me is a town called Hatfield. @@ccrx6700
hello Dave & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Dave Friends Randy
Appreciate your writing in Randy with the nice comment. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
Theyve been doing demo at Clairton Works. Oldest unit was shut down last march. It's been sad to see all of that old infrastructure torn down
Thanks! I thought they'd been down a long time since I didn't see the slag dump from US51 years ago, a fantastic sight at night when that stuff was running down hill all ablaze.
@@alro2434 yeah they modified the process now. The slag runs out the side of the pour house and they scoop it up later and send it off. That all happens at Edgar Thompson a little ways up the road. Across the river from Kennywood
Yes,dave same here western canada they start close power plant some put with natural gas steam or turbine but here alberta they reclaims land big time.the problems is back up alberta come close run out power last months due very cold period -35 to -50 below zero yup.forget green stuff is dead water here alberta.bc hydro almost done build new dams peace river up north.thanks video dave.😊
You are right Luc. They are taking proven coal fired plants out without
having the replacement sources of power generation in place first.
The power grid is strained as is without losing more sources of
generation. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Very cool
Thank you, glad you enjoyed Tim. This was especially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys there. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
You have a few more pounds on your dad but I see the resemblance. Thanks for the video and stay safe.
That photo was taken in the mid 1960's Russ and when I was his
age then I was a lot slimmer than I am now. But that's what I get
for marrying a woman who can cook, I eat too much.....:-) Thanks
so much for stopping by to watch the video my friend.
Thanks for sharing Dave! It's a shame to see it destroyed. Any plans on a replacement?
It certainly is Brian. Plans are for now to make this into a grassy field in the hopes that some industry will move in. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Loved this!
Glad you enjoyed. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show.
See some shears on them excavators. I ran one some but for concrete
They are beastly looking Preston, must be a lot of fun to tear stuff
up with them! :-) Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
That is the story of industrial equipment. when something becomes, generally due to wear and age, too expensive to operate it is taken down and recycled into something new. There is a lot of steel to be fen into the arc furnaces to make new structural steel. Sad to loose all the highly skilled effort to build the things but that is the way of the world.
Yes you are right Greg. What happened here is they built a millions
of dollar scrubber system to get into compliance with the EPA, then
after that the EPA raised their emissions standards and the utility
company shut this place down. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Wow, you are your daddy son... you two look so much alike...
Thanks for the nice compliment Double O. My dad was a good man,
hard worker and loved his job. Those photos of him on the digger
truck were taken in the mid 1960's. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Wow thats crazy
Yes it is Timothy, Plants all over the place around here have shut
down. This is specially sad for me to see since I worked there in the 1970's. I've been all over every foot of that plant. Have a special love for that place, but it is what it is. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
What a mess indeed!
It certainly is Bassotronics, but cleanup is going a whole lot faster than I imagined it would. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700
Thanks for the info kind sir.
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@@Bassotronics 👍😊
I was there when they Blew up the bridge..
I've got a picture of that bridge coming down in one of my videos,
I think it's on the video of them taking down the smoke stacks.
That bridge was built in the 1920's by Independent Bridge Company
and was a toll bridge when it opened. Here's the video Pat:
ua-cam.com/video/E7qpdHkK4mM/v-deo.html
Dave, the destruction of the boiler house is a hugh WOW!!! DYNAMITE!!!😮
Don't forget the milk and eggs 😋 😉...
Richard Bause
Ulterior motive in taking her grocery shopping Richard. While she is
in the store, I go rail fanning on the nearby NS tracks! Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Your a good husband Dave!
Taking the Mrs. To the store so that you can go to the track to see the ponies.
Yes, our first employments are some of the most remembering as is the skills we gain.
Sorting and banding ties today. Sure you don't want some?
Pictures in your cell phone.
Take care and have fun 👍. Richard Bause
@@richardbause2453 👍😊
What a shame, those B&W boilers were the high tech as far as making steam goes!
You are right Jim they were Babcock and Wilcox boilers. Many BW boiler makers were there when I worked at Hatfield from 72 to 77. Great guys they were and very hard workers. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
I used to work courtesy patrol on a turnpike. Man, be careful on the side of that highway. People just do not pay attention to very much, anymore.
Yes it was a bit scary being out there on that bridge louderone. Don't want to do that much anymore. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I’ve pretty well watched all your videos. I used to railroad and used to live in the NE Ohio area. I’ve watched it all. The whole area. I watched it go from boom to rust bucket.
@@louderone6042 👍😊
The one in the background at 6:15 looks like some massive dinosaur!
It certainly is a big un Dave..... Wouldn't it be fun to run that although
the neck might get a little strained after a full days work. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
I haven't been to Elrama for a while, but i suspect that it's been cleared off and the affordable housing project is being planned.
I was down there last year rail fanning the NS line and it was still up
at that time Spaceflight. I see you've answered a lot of comments
and do thank you for sharing your wealth of info with everyone.
Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 You're quite welcome. My involvement with Hatfield began in 1986 when the Westinghouse division I worked for, WISCO, began doing field service work for the Combustion Control Division. We still had the instrument calibration and repair contract for Kirby at that time. Westinghouse had sold Hatfield a pair of new sulfur dioxide analyzers and like anything new, they had teething problems. The probes, mounted inside the two stacks at the 300' level, were failing about once a week. They were eight feet or so long and weighed around 50 pounds.
A few years later, Westinghouse had learned that the probes weren't just reacting to the sulfur dioxide, they were reacting to total sulfurs, skewing the readings. That system was abandoned and I stopped going to Hatfield.
I still see John from the Results Department at the hamfests.
Going to Hatfield was always an adventure. One trip, two of us were trapped on the stack when the elevator failed. We had to climb down the stack on the safety ladder. Another trip, one of our guys discovered that he had a fear of heights when he exited the elevator and looked down through the grating and froze solid.
@@ccrx6700 I posted a reply that explains my connection to Hatfield and it was removed. Can't figure it out.
Those long round vessels could be the steam drums. So heartbreaking!
I remember them being in the plant when I worked there, but never
knew what they were used for SouthernBelle. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
That is a LOT of steel to recycle.. Too bad that electric plant was destroyed.. We are needing ever more generation on the grid with the onset of these crazy electric cars that take thousands & thousands of watts to charge.
Old plants are not as efficient as new dual cycle nat gas plants that can be cycled on quickly to meet demand with lower emissions than the legacy equipment.
Yes our power grid is already strained and the more coal fired plants
that shut down without replacement power generating sources in place, the worse it's going to get Jennifer. This was specially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Yes sir, very interesting video . Is this part of the port area that y’all deliver coal to?
Glad you enjoyed Kevin. We used to sell coal to Hatfield, but
not a whole lot. One of our better customers now is Fort Martin
power plant which was a sister plant to Hatfield, they are up river
from our harbor facility. Hatfield was down river a couple of miles.
Wow
It certainly was a mess but they are getting it cleaned up David.
This was especially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Hi Dave, this must be a sad picture for you. Also because you worked there.
Yes it certainly was strannostrannovasrr. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Will they haul all the scrap off by barge or would they truck it out? That's one huge mess to clean up!!
It's all going out in trucks Jon. You would think with the river right
there it would be far more efficient to take it out by barge and a lot
cheaper. But what do I know....:-) Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
What a mess
it certainly is, but the clean up is going a whole lot faster than
I ever thought it would. They are taking everything out by trucks,
but I don't know where it is going.
Hawaiian Electric (HECO) on Oahu, HI sure is having power outages or blackouts after the last coal fired power plant shutdown last year and the so called renewable energy resources can't keep up with the demands.
Bet you will never hear about it on the news!
The EPA is bent on shutting down as many coal fired power plants
that they can Jason. They don't care if the replacement sources
of power generation are in place or not. They just want to do away
with coal fired plants in their effort to get us in compliance with the
Paris Accord. My friend in California says the same thing about
outages and blackouts are there as you are saying in Hawaii.
Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
Oh, GREAT. Video title triggers a flashback to the movie "Stripes"...
"Where's Sergeant Hulka?"
"Blown up, sir!"
"Stripes" came out in 1981.
Yes, I know. I just dated myself in public. Oh, well.
Well for dating yourself, I started working at Hatfield the day after
I graduated from high school in 1972 Eric..... Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys there. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Dave, I am surprised that they aren't sending the metals out by rail. Do you know if they will be taking the power lines out? Robert
i heard there is a solar farm way back from the cooltowers..assume those lines are hot but NOT 3x750MW hot.
No rail down there except across the river Robert. I am surprised they
aren't barging the scrap away or they could even take it across the
river for NS trains, both of which seems would be far more cheaper
than trucking it out like they are. But what do I know....:-) Power lines are in use, they built a new gas fired plant about a mile or so from
there and that plant is using the transmission lines. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
They are shutting ours down here in Oregon
The EPA is shutting down as many coal fired power plants that they
can in order to try and get us into compliance with the Paris Accord.
They don't care if the replacement sources of power generation are
in place or not, they only want to do away with coal for power generation. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
WOW! What a mess. So why was the plant torn down?
They had spent untold millions on building a new scrubber system which got them into compliance with emissions standards at the
time Fred. Then the EPA upped the standards and the power company refused to spend more untold millions to get it into compliance again. Very sad situation and put a lot of guys out of
work. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
While you are demolishing things, the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, Wisconsin is improving things. They just opened a new exhibit just for railroading tools. When I read this, I imeadtely though of you so you could put it on your places to see list.
Thank you for telling me that Earl, I will have to check it out online.
May be awhile before I get to Green Bay tho, but great to hear
they are improving things. When they get a life like statue of me
driving spikes, guess I will have to make an appearance.....:-)
Appreciate your checking out the Hatfield video today my friend.
I hate to see these coal-fired plants come down cuz that just makes it rougher on everything else we need new coal-fired plants clean coal
What's clean coal?
Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there David. That plant was built in the mid 1960's. Lot of good memories from there and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to watch the Hatfield demo show my friend.
An interesting thing about all these power plants, be they Coal, Gas or Nuclear, is that they ALL require power to run. Should they shut down, without an external power supply, they can not re-start. That is why you have that odd line-in shown at the end.
If several "Nodes" are taken out, and the grid for one side of the US is taken out because of it, a re-start has to start with some small Hydro-Electric plant, out in the Boon-Docks, that can start by manually opening a gate to let water spin up a small generator, to provide enough juice for the next biggest in line, until you have enough power to bring the Big Boys on line. Don't know how long that would take, but it would not be quick!
Duquesne Light used to have the Brunots Island "black start" plant for their system, but these plants are being priced out of the system. A black start would go like this:
Operators at BI would start up two diesel generators. Those would provide the power to start the three gas turbines on the island. Power from BI would be routed to Elrama, and once one of its units were started then the power went to start the Cheswick station. Once it was up to speed, the Beaver Valley nuclear power plant would be restarted.
Elrama and Cheswick are history. Brunots Island is not strong enough to black start Beaver Valley. The City of Pittsburgh and Allegheny County want the land that BI is on for a high-priced housing/marina development and are threatening to cancel the air permits. The only thing that is preventing them is the DLCO switchyard and the Norfolk Southern mainline railroad bridge.
@@spaceflight1019 That is very interesting. It does highlight the vulnerability of having a centralised generation network, if something knocks out the big Generating sites.
The future looks more complicated. As more and more decentralised renewable sources come on line, (Wind and Solar, plus tidal at some point), with greater use of battery storage to capture surplus from them, you can set up small micro-grids that isolate from the main grid in the event of a Brown out. I can see a time in the future where the Big Sites will become too expensive to keep running.
Grid Scale Storage has been a big problem, but you are now seeing Batteries using SALT rather than Lithium, and there is NO shortage of Salt! As it is also cheap, large Grid Storage Facilities become feasible. The next 10 years could see some big changes.
@@coniow It's not as easy to "decentralize" as you may think. Here's why.
Your house power is 240 volts in the US. It runs things like stoves, dryers, and air conditioning and heating systems. It is actually two 120 volt systems as it comes to the house from the transformer on the pole. That transformer gets its power from a local substation. The substation is supplied by a high voltage transmission line system, usually 138,000 volts or higher. The utility's switchgear connects the transmission line to the interstate grid transmission lines.
This is why, if you have a generator, you absolutely must be sure that your house is disconnected from the transformer feed. If not, your little Harbor Freight Predator will attempt to power as much of the grid as it's connected to. Of course, it can't, and will stall out immediately.
@@spaceflight1019 :-). I am writing from the UK.
There is already a Micro-Grid over here where a group of 33 houses is clustered around their own substation.
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The Substation has a battery storage unit within it's compound, supplied by the surplus Solar from each of the houses. These houses can draw on the stored energy during the night, and during the winter the battery can charge up on the off-peak cheap rate in the early hours. It can also 'sell' energy back into the grid during peak (16:00 to 19:00), with the payments used to subsidise running costs.
The challenge is to turn the grid on its head, upsetting many shareholders in the US as the infrastructure is privately owned, where as in the UK, the National Grid owns the High Voltage side, and is actively working to accommodate the supply going 2 way, not just one way.
Not saying it is simple or easy, but it is happening. Big Business in the US will delay as long as it can, to keep their profits for as long as possible (rather like Big Oil), but it will happen.
Another point, on needing to be disconnected from the grid, is that in the event of a power cut, your generator will be energising the grid and risking the lives of the crews working to reconnect the system. Why it took a year longer in the UK for Tesla to get permission to install the Gateway 2 than it did in the US. They wanted to ensure that all the Powerwalls around the country were going to isolate safely.
You are right about that Con. What I do not know is once the power
started being produced there, did they run the plant off that power or
was the power coming in from that line on the hill all the time to
keep the plant running? I rather imagine Hatfield ran off it's own
generated power, but I cannot say for sure on that. Appreciate very
much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
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Appreciate the thumbs up Mel. and thanks so much my friend for checking out the Hatfield video.
How do you eat a dinosaur?
One bite at a time😅👷♂️🏗🔩
And that's how you tear down a power plant Doug.....:-) Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
It's dangerous working track side, but no way would I like working road side. The boilers remains still look huge to the size of the machines wonder how many tons of scrap there is there, Interesting they still need coal to start up the gas boilers. I like you have pics of your Father at work. He would be proud he could say he built things.
That was a coal fired plant with gas added after wards to help
with fuel costs Cedarcam. What surprises me is they are trucking
all that scrap out instead of barging it. Sure would love to know like
you how many tons of scrap there is in that place! Pics of dad on
the digger truck was taken in the mid 1960's. He was a good man,
hard worker and always liked those photos I showed you. He passed
on 9 years ago and is sadly missed. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 They converted a lot of our power stations too some to oil. A barge would be better than all those trucks on the road yea. I did not see a lot of my Dad with him working in the evenings a lot, still miss him. He took us all over the country on hols, I feel lucky about that, some people have seen very little of our country.
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Your blinkers almost sound, like a metronome
I was afraid not to have them on Brad. Traffic is nuts sometimes
around here on that bridge. Thank you for taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
I wouldn’t want to be breathing that air on that site…….im sure asbestos particles remain airborne
Good point Chip. When I worked there the plant was full of asbestos.
I have no idea if they ever removed it or not, I left there in 1977.
Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
What are they going to with the site
it will end up a grassy field. They are hoping that some industry in
the future will want to move in there, but I rather doubt that will
ever happen in my life time.
I wonder how they handled the asbestos abatement? I would hate to be one of the workers down there if there was still asbestos in the structure.
I believe all the asbestos had already been removed Dave. I worked
there from 1972 to 77 and the plant was full of asbestos at that
time, but it had only opened in 1968. But consider all the workers
who did remove the asbestos whenever it was done, but they probably wore appropriate safety apparel to do it. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
The video is made on January 8 and February 1, and in it you say you have to take the wife "Christmas shopping"? 🤔You've left me very curious about how you schedule things.
We had gone over to the feed mill to get her bird seed, she loves to
feed the birds and stopped on the way back. I was taking her grocery
shopping afterwards, not Christmas shopping MottyGlix. Although
in years past when I was a young un, all our family got together for
Christmas. After many years the family moved away to various places and the grand parents passed, so we all got together for Christmas
in August every year. So we went Christmas shopping back then in
August, so yep that is a different way of scheduling....:-) Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show
my friend.
Very sad.......
Yes indeed it was Poowg. They couldn't spend enough money to
keep up with the emissions standards the EPA kept raising up. Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
A lot of transmission lines are nearby with no power to feed them:(
At this place they did build a new gas fired plant a couple of miles
from there and use the existing transmission lines for that Brian.
Tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
What are we going to do for power when they are all gone, I always thought of burning our garbage
The currently correct answer is "somewhere else".
Garbage has too many nasty fumes & smells.
The EPA is bent on destroying coal fired power plants in order to
get us in compliance with the Paris Accord MrJeep. They don't care
if the replacement sources of power generation are in place or not,
they just want coal to get shut down. Some plants out there do
burn garbage and a couple of them burn used RR ties, but that
is only a part of their fuel sources.
After all the scrap metal is gone what are they planning on doing with the land, surely there has to be a plan ??
For now the plan is to leave it a grassy field until they can hopefully
find an industry that wants to move in Donnie. Probably won't happen
tho for a long time. Thanks so much for checking out the video
today my friend.
What is this , did it blow up on it’s own, or are they removing and rebuilding the plant, lol thanks BigAl California.
Planned demolition because the station was shuttered in 2012.
Yes they blew it up BigAl. Plant was shut down because it would
not spend the multi millions needed to get it into EPA emissions
compliance. They had spent millions upon millions building new
scrubbers and they met the standards. Then the EPA upped the
emissions requirements and the utility company said spend no more.
Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 It's actually a little bit more complicated than that. Not only does the EPA constantly tighten the "standards" to justify the budget, they come up with new ones. The mercury, or MATS, rules are an example. A few years ago they added a standard for selenium that would have forced Cheswick to build a new $20M treatment plant to make the discharge water cleaner than the river water. Lunacy. Then the activists accused us of boiling the water in the Allegheny River. The combination of slick photos and a know-nothing judge resulted in a consent decree and the installation of temperature sensors in the river. I didn't attend the hearing, but the station manager did, and the highlight was when a California woman declared that she can't eat the tuna from the river because it was boiled alive.
Alrighty then...
All of the coal plants were closed because they failed to receive a capacity payment in the PJM auction. Natural gas and government subsidized renewables have pushed the auction prices far below what coal can do.
@spaceflight1019 you are right my friend 👍😊
That might be fun running That expediter but that's not railroading
Don't worry Mike, lot's and lot's of railroading videos coming your
way. Since I worked there in the 1970's Hatfield has a special place
in my heart and a lot of folks like to see equipment running even
if it's tearing down a place I loved. Thanks so much my friend for
watching the Hatfield demolition video.
I am great at demolition,almost anything, but construction, not so much.
Far easier to tear down than build up Michael, I like to destroy stuff
too....:-) But tearing Hatfield down was a sad thing for me to see happen since I used to work there from 1972 to 77. Lot of good memories and I will always have a special love for that place. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the Hatfield demo show my friend.
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I agree Donnie. This was especially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
I bet there was a ton of asbestos 😮
All of the hazmats had to be removed from the site before it was demolished.
I think it had all been taken out earlier Dennis. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.
Did the plant switch from coal fired to natural gas ? Sad to see it gone that could be producing electricity. You look like your dad.
There is a natural gas plant across the river. Repowering Hatfield with gas was never an option. Hatfield, Mitchell, and Elrama failed to get a capacity payment from PJM in the 2011 auction and all three stations were shut down.
@@spaceflight1019 Was the a mine feeding it coal like Mitchell or barged in? As a kid I loved seeing those cable carts going overhead as we drove underneath. Dave mentions a gas pipeline that was recently installed, coming from across the river, seems like a costly temporary fix. Also, was the Mon. River water very boiler friendly? Thanks.
@@alro2434 Hatfield had the majority of the coal barged in. I remember the Mitchell cable car system; they came down to the plant with coal and went back up the hill with ash.
You can't use river water in a boiler, at least not directly. Power plants had a water purification system that removed the dirt and other minerals and treated the water to an incredible purity level. The way they explained it to me was that if city tap water was 100 times as pure as the river water, then boiler water was 100 times as pure as the tap water.
Elrama and Cheswick had three separate water circuits. One was the boiler water. One was the city tap water, and the last one was called "service water".
Service water was river water that had a good percentage of the dirt removed from it. At both places, it was used for fire protection, emissions control, and general cleanup.
Hatfield never ran on gas. They probably had the gas line installed after the first Arab oil embargo and the cost of fuel oil went through the roof...if you could get any.
To run a natural gas powered power station takes a line at least three feet in diameter pressurized to 800 psi; in short, a gas transmission line.
No it did not Beverly, the natural gas was used as a supplement to
the coal when needed. That line is way to small to feed those 3
huge boilers full time. Yes my dad and I do have a resemblance.
Thank you. He was a good man and loved his job. He passed away
9 years ago. Tearing this place down is specially sad for me to see since I worked there from 1972 to 77. Had a lot of good experiences and met a lot of good guys. Hatfield will always have a special place in my heart. Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the video my friend.
i was born 1972
I started working there the day after I graduated from high school in
72 Peter. You're still a young pup.....:-) Appreciate very much your taking the time to write in and to check out the Hatfield demo video my friend.