Are Final Fantasy Games Connected? This is Dumb!

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  • @achidente
    @achidente Рік тому +33

    …but are they connected? Like, do they exist in the same universe? Do characters know each other?
    That’s what I’m curious about.

    • @geigercourtier
      @geigercourtier Рік тому +8

      I think we’re in the wrong place

    • @achidente
      @achidente Рік тому +4

      Totally.

    • @aqilmarzukie1130
      @aqilmarzukie1130 10 місяців тому +5

      I have been searching for answers for years now

    • @the-birbo
      @the-birbo 8 місяців тому +8

      The answer is some of them are connected. Final Fantasy 7, 10, 13, and 15 are all in the same universe. And 9, 12, 14, and Tactics (maybe 11 too?) are in the same universe. I'm not sure of any others that share a universe.

    • @bryants1863
      @bryants1863 8 місяців тому +3

      @@the-birbo 9 does have the Buster Sword hanging in one of the weapon shops, though it could just be a simple nod. That game also introduces the other planet so that one is iffy for me.

  • @TJOEL20
    @TJOEL20 Рік тому +105

    When people ask if the Final Fantasy games are connected, they’re obviously talking about the narrative, not the gameplay or graphics you goober.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому +8

      1:30, 2:36 - It’s mentioned twice! Thanks for commenting!

    • @TJOEL20
      @TJOEL20 Рік тому +27

      @@TheReturnersHideout Yes but the entire rest of the video is rendered pointless because it misses the point entirely

    • @dank_tomatoes1165
      @dank_tomatoes1165 10 місяців тому +5

      Well I'll answer it for you. The final fantasy series is an anthology. It has core fundamental mechanics that are shared by one another, but beyond that they all live within their own separate continuities , stories and universes, with the exception of subtle references from it's respective predecessors.

    • @kingd751
      @kingd751 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes and no. Some are connected over certain timelines and others are standalone. FFX and FFVII are a good example that when looking deep into both the lore and story lines a lot of it lines up and makes sense. So I get where you’re coming from but it goes both ways

    • @the-birbo
      @the-birbo 8 місяців тому

      @@kingd751 they're also connected to 13 and 15

  • @Black_omen
    @Black_omen Рік тому +23

    Also If you think about it, a lot of these Final Fantasy games have the same head chefs who makes these sandwiches.

    • @Valentien23
      @Valentien23 5 місяців тому +1

      The actual gods of the FF universe which features Galaxies of FFs

  • @iansmith8783
    @iansmith8783 Рік тому +15

    at the end of one it says that after chaos was destroyed, that history returned to the way it was, maybe with the same people and events but a bit different and with no memory of the chaos-tainted timeline. so i always like to imagine that the final fantasy world is constantly being remade by cosmic events, with many familiar elements returning but constantly being rearranged. the same story being told over and over again in different ways.

    • @luiiibilll00
      @luiiibilll00 Рік тому +4

      Probably how our universe works if you think about it

    • @iansmith8783
      @iansmith8783 Рік тому +1

      @@luiiibilll00 yeah. Especially if you start getting into quantum theory it's mind-boggling!

    • @luiiibilll00
      @luiiibilll00 Рік тому

      @iansmith8783 not just quantum mechanics but also if you break everything down it all tells you the same conclusion

  • @RyzenX12
    @RyzenX12 День тому +1

    Imagine how hard a sudden lore drop would be in like ff20 or sum that just suddenly explains that every ff is in the same universe. Like you get to the 20th game and the whole freakin universe is suddenly opened up to you

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  День тому

      I would probably cry like a toddler if that ever happened lol. I’m here for it! Square, get on it!

  • @mindlessmeat4055
    @mindlessmeat4055 Рік тому +14

    Final Fantasy is like a cloud. They can be massive or thin. They can be fluffy or hard. But they all have something in common, they inspire imagination (yes even rain clouds do this)

    • @et7313
      @et7313 Рік тому +8

      I haven't seen a hard cloud, but I get it

    • @musicaleuphoria8699
      @musicaleuphoria8699 8 місяців тому

      ​@@et7313 😏

    • @ypto82
      @ypto82 3 місяці тому

      ​@@musicaleuphoria8699hell no

    • @SH19922x
      @SH19922x 2 місяці тому

      You dorks are insufferable.

  • @thatdonparkerVODS
    @thatdonparkerVODS Рік тому +4

    It’s strange how appropriate this is.

  • @dumdumchord
    @dumdumchord Рік тому +4

    When I woke up this morning for some reason I was wondering if somehow Baron castle in FFIV and the Ancient castle in FFVI could be the same castle since they both contained Odin, even with the secret room considered where you find Raiden off to the right much like how you find Odin in FFIV. It would make sense that as time went by the castle was buried, and there's sand near Baron castle in FFIV.

  • @hanimelord_2961
    @hanimelord_2961 9 місяців тому +3

    You wasted 2 minutes and 23 seconds of my life just to tell me their not connected should have just said that from the start

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  9 місяців тому

      The thumbnail literally says ‘no’ however I am grateful for your 2 a half minutes! Hopefully there was something that you enjoyed 🙂

  • @wombatpandaa9774
    @wombatpandaa9774 3 місяці тому

    As someone who has dabbled in FF, played a lot of FFXIV, and is now entering the series with XVI, it seems like they're connected in a very meta sense, and all other connections kind of stem from those meta connections. It seems like a lot of characters share names or even cross over into other games, sometimes in canon events and sometimes as just Easter eggs of dubious canonicity, but the game worlds are always separate and are arguably in entirely separate universes. The exceptions to this rule seem to be special crossover games like Kingdom Hearts, Dissidia, the gacha games, etc. where the rules are broken in specific and hand-wavily explained ways. But I could be wrong and I'm excited to see how right or wrong I am as I play through the series.

  • @Kinger_of_the_circus
    @Kinger_of_the_circus Рік тому +4

    So I don’t have to play ff1 to understand what’s going on in ff16?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому +2

      Not at all, just mainly themes and some familiar names sprinkled throughout the entire series!

    • @SNAKEx197
      @SNAKEx197 Рік тому +1

      @@TheReturnersHideoutah okay. So like materia and mp? Then I won’t feel guilty too much by playing XVI. I played VII, crisis core psp, X. I don’t know if I was missing out on a lot. Thanks for the video, I actually understood what you were talking about!

  • @igiveyoudispear9975
    @igiveyoudispear9975 Рік тому +2

    4:30 minutes and this dude talks about sandwiches the entire time.

  • @snesmonkec8508
    @snesmonkec8508 5 місяців тому +2

    im just curious about one thing: do the same rules of magic (like, the energy, lifestream, materia, idk i just know FFVII) apply on every single one of this stories?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  5 місяців тому

      Nope, every FF has different rules. Some, you’ll learn magic through buying it, others you’ll learn it by leveling up.

  • @finurlig7964
    @finurlig7964 Рік тому +3

    The Returner's Hideout videos are just getting better and better. Entertaining and interesting at the same time, and with such crisp editing. Love the videos and the style!

  • @Brahmsonite
    @Brahmsonite Рік тому +1

    Final Fantasy Legends must be how a hot dog isn't really a sandwich, but people will try and tell you it is.

  • @Koto0928
    @Koto0928 Рік тому +3

    Best sandwich analogy I've ever heard. How do you feel about the theroy "stranger of paradise" tires them all together?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому +1

      I'd like to explore it more before really coming up with anything in an official way. I've got SOME opinions on it, but I'll wait until everything is out and I get a chance to REALLY dig into it! Thanks so much!

    • @Blackfire_2022
      @Blackfire_2022 Рік тому

      It is something to consider but I like to think of Strangers of Paradise as an alternate history where the time loop went haywire. Or that Garland broke opposed to the heros and that made all of them connect.

  • @liamcastro9896
    @liamcastro9896 Рік тому +1

    I'm weird so Imade up my own head canon to explain the FF games
    Before the events of all the FF games their was on big universe with everything from every FF from Chocobos to Summons to Magitek. View it as one big crystal, a star. But something happened that broke the world (something like the opening cutscene of FF14) into smaller worlds (the FF games). Because they were all one whole world at one time they all share things but some have things that others don't. View each different FF world as a shard of the original crystal.
    I know its dumb but its was my way of explaining it in a cool fantasy way.

  • @ryu9933
    @ryu9933 Рік тому +3

    Lol I love the sandwich analogy, never thought of FF games the same as sandwiches. Love the video, now I'm hungry for a sandwich... Maybe in the mood to play an FF game... Hmmm maybe both 😄👍

  • @170skeith
    @170skeith 5 місяців тому

    I mean kinda it's a multiverse and some stuff like there's only 1 Gilgamesh/Yojimbo who travels across the multiverse looking for strong fighters and powerful weapons and some games have direct sequels but other than that the different universes stay separated from each other save for niche cases

  • @thanamesswish6077
    @thanamesswish6077 7 місяців тому

    Okay, serious comment now, this is a great video.. I love how you use sandwiches as the rating system, it really works well.. I do love FFX, but it's mostly from it being my first experience into the series.. Afterwards, I've become a huge fan of 7, 8, and the first part of 13? (Whatever one had Lightning as the MC) but the later parts were anti climactic.. 3 was an absolute masterpiece for it's time.. I like Vincent in "Advent Children" even though he's there for all of 2 minutes..

  • @CrookedShoeTales
    @CrookedShoeTales 8 місяців тому +4

    I feel like 16 and 7 remake and rebirth are in the same universe. In my head canon 16 takes place 2000 years before 7 😂

  • @Beigemage0621
    @Beigemage0621 6 місяців тому

    You said it yourself, the stories have evolved with each numbered title. It stands to reason that as the plot gets more complex a MCU-like multiverse is the next and popular trend to follow. The Void in FF5 that allows Gilgamesh, Omega and Shinryu to cameo in canon in other games is proof that it could be written in. The variant concept in Loki could be applied to summons. A center watcher figure like in Dissidia could be added or centered upon. But until Marvel figures out how to work the multiverse into a franchise I think FF is better with the cameos. I'm just going to put Strangers of Paradise by itself as it breaks and diminishes the canon of the worlds you visit (Showing up in the FF6 dimension and breaking the Warring Triad statues to open a platform for example), lets call thoss visions. Personally I prefer the story telling of tbe first 9 but times and storytelling changes the more money you put into something.

  • @alexisinboxes
    @alexisinboxes 6 місяців тому

    wtf...the whole sandwich thing made it seemingly more complicated than it actually is...

  • @_Promised_
    @_Promised_ 8 місяців тому

    You can see Shinra’s photo clearly in the remake of ff7 so it is connected.

  • @thehater6189
    @thehater6189 3 місяці тому

    I enjoyed the vid! However, it seems that the real point was not addressed in the many similarities and references that go beyond the logistics. They are undoubtedly connected, much like the first sandwich is connected to the second one. Moreso, the sandwich metaphor works wonders in the second sandwich being a sequel to the first sandwich. The question remains as to whether the sandwiches have influenced each other in the narrative sense. Undoubtedly, ff4 influenced ff5, which influenced ff6 and so on but are the NARRATIVES connected!

  • @Enuhbilatty
    @Enuhbilatty Рік тому +2

    Geez, haven't found a video within the minute it comes out.

  • @_._johnkarma_._
    @_._johnkarma_._ Рік тому

    Bro must really like his sandwiches, heard more about food than about games lol

  • @neoachilleos6891
    @neoachilleos6891 2 місяці тому

    i'm not sure i got the message but i definitely got hungry

  • @joshuapaul592
    @joshuapaul592 11 місяців тому +2

    My last comment was so rude for no reason so it’s down….my bad. I do feel there is a lot of evidence to support connection in later entries though.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  11 місяців тому +1

      Heya Josh, there wasn't a need to take it down! Criticism is a GOOD thing, and I fully agree with you; rude or not! I can completely understand we're all super passionate about this series and BELIEVE me, it shows through the comment section of nearly every video I've ever put out. I hope this exchange didn't sour the experience of the Hideout and that you'll swing back around and watch a few videos and see if my style is for you or not! Either way, I thank you for commenting and voicing your opinion.

    • @joshuapaul592
      @joshuapaul592 11 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely not holmes! I just felt bad keep it up!

    • @joshuapaul592
      @joshuapaul592 11 місяців тому +1

      Love the attitude, and bein the “bigger person” my dude. You got my sub for what it’s worth! Lol

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  11 місяців тому

      It’s worth a lot! I’m always trying to get better at this UA-cam thing, it kinda gained way more subs than I was prepared for honestly lol. Thanks again for watching and commenting! I hope I see your name in more comment sections!

  • @BenjaminHartleyReturns
    @BenjaminHartleyReturns 7 днів тому

    (But some are within a shared continuum)

  • @swolepokeguy8657
    @swolepokeguy8657 9 місяців тому

    Ff12, tactics, and 14 have to be. In 14 Ramza and crew came out of the auracite to help defeat the high seraph because they failed in tactics according to that story.

  • @Order-Sol
    @Order-Sol 8 місяців тому

    You just explained it in your thumbnail.

  • @CorvoThan
    @CorvoThan 7 місяців тому

    so appereantly one can get from the world of one fantasy game to another through the void. but that is kind of a louse connection...

  • @Cettywise
    @Cettywise Рік тому

    I started playing ff type-0 and they started talking about some things I heard in ff 13. And the war and student soldiers seems a lot like ff 8...
    And don't even get me started about the eidolons and crystals... I just feel like there's something more connecting these worlds but maybe it's just head cannon run wild 😜

  • @kriz2432
    @kriz2432 Рік тому +1

    Don't be sorry... I'm hungry too... I wanna eat some... Final Fantasy. 😏😎

  • @Oddy_for
    @Oddy_for 7 місяців тому

    that thumbnail... you are a great man.
    bless you.

  • @brophwyd
    @brophwyd 26 днів тому

    Unfortunately, you are wrong, as per Kitase himself. There is a timeline. An example he gave in *official publications, as an official stance of Square Enix, as a writer for the franchise* was X-2 and VII. VII is a sequel to X-2 which is a sequel to X. They exist in the same universe, and there is a chronology to the games. This is not arguable, Square has confirmed this.
    The arguable part is whether the chronology matters like at all. Which it pretty obviously does not, except for the direct sequels. It's like the LoZ. Other than the direct sequels, knowing that there is a timeline is pointless.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  25 днів тому

      Having X-2 and 7 within the same universe (he says in an interview that FF7 takes place in Japan after an accident) doesn’t inherently establish an entire timeline. If I buy ice cream from a store it doesn’t make it an ice cream store - there’s a lot more going on, more nuances - and your point is right on; the chronology (I think) doesn’t matter.
      Not yet anyway. It’s the same theory of Lavos and Jenova being from the same dimension; it’s fun, (and we all know I love to stretch things sometimes) but that’s it.
      I once looked at the world maps from FF3 and compared it against every other map trying to find rough similarities and got close, but nothing I could make a video about.
      I do want to thank you for this comment though! One day I’ll get back to making videos again and when I do, I can’t wait for all the debates!! Thanks again!

  • @Thewolfartist24
    @Thewolfartist24 Рік тому +1

    0:48, You're starting to remind me of my high school principle.

  • @andrewvirtue5048
    @andrewvirtue5048 Місяць тому

    VII Dirge of Cerberus & XII are the best two.

  • @thanamesswish6077
    @thanamesswish6077 7 місяців тому

    Less than a minute it, and flock youth.. ;) I'm American; born and raised, and I love to use butter for sandwiches.. Mayo is absolute shite.. I thought about being bi, imagined a load in my jaw, and immediately decided, "No, not my thing," at 12 years old.. I'm now 28, still firm in my beliefs; even after 2 biological and 5 steps (11 total if you count positive relationships with kids from the past relationships), and I'd rather eat THAT on a sandwich, than mayo..

  • @fengshoulong9402
    @fengshoulong9402 Рік тому

    The games that take place in Ivalice are all connected.

  • @josephdolph8474
    @josephdolph8474 Рік тому +4

    I think it's a good explanation and a great metaphor I been trying to figure out this explanation for years and now you've shamed me cuz I'm a cook and should've thought of this perfect analogy (metaphor whatever IDK I'm just a cook lol)

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому +2

      No shame here, brother! Thanks so much for watching and being apart of this whole thing!

  • @VarmsNet
    @VarmsNet Рік тому

    There is always Gilgamesh being the actual same person in every game.

    • @morteaux3662
      @morteaux3662 Рік тому

      Nope. Only in few, like V, VIII and XII. In IX and XIV, XV is completely different being, although in XIV is same character but not same Gilgamesh (as stated by Yoshi-P)

  • @Cetra29
    @Cetra29 Рік тому

    Final Fantasy X, X-2 and VII have the same universe. XIII-LR have the same universe. XII and Tactics have the same universe. ALL Final Fantasys however share the same "interdimensional" connection. That is confirmed by Gilgamesh''s profile in XII. It is the same guy.

  • @buddyboi8456
    @buddyboi8456 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic explanation in such short time ❤

  • @happi4957
    @happi4957 Рік тому

    Im thinking of playing final fantasy but should I wait until final fantasy 16 releases? because Im sure a lot of people will switch over to 16 right?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому

      Well if you’re talking about the PS5 version, it came out in June! You can for sure start with 16, a LOT of people are probably doing the same thing!

  • @justincase43
    @justincase43 Рік тому +1

    i didnt skip a skippable ad for you. congrats on the channel’s growth and getting monetized vids! :-)

  • @eliaz3948
    @eliaz3948 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the dumbest yet the most brilliant metaphor I've ever heard XD
    Thanks for a great video!

  • @Rowandgs
    @Rowandgs 8 місяців тому

    Is butter not a normal sandwich ingredient in America?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  8 місяців тому

      Not where I’m at! I’ve seen some UA-cam videos of European folks being completely astounded by that fact!

  • @Blackfire_2022
    @Blackfire_2022 Рік тому +2

    Is mayonnaise a final fantasy 🤔 great video BTW great video man (someone will get this reference lol)

    • @Black_omen
      @Black_omen Рік тому +3

      No mayonnaise is not a final fantasy…horseradish isn’t either

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому +2

      Spongebob reference??

    • @Blackfire_2022
      @Blackfire_2022 Рік тому +1

      @@TheReturnersHideout yeah it is. One of the best lol

  • @julespetrikov
    @julespetrikov Рік тому +1

    Quality channel, quality content.

  • @polysemy_
    @polysemy_ Рік тому

    me looking for the "head chef" in ffxv to understand 8 people liking for the persons top comment.
    im gonna assume its a model and/or voice, ive only played 5 of the games, 3 old 2 new.

    • @polysemy_
      @polysemy_ Рік тому

      and I played 15 after 16 bcs for the longest time I didn't realize that's what "royal edition" was, bcs I also had 14 cuz yknow it's free or whatever, online goofy on console.

  • @sh4d0wfl4re
    @sh4d0wfl4re 10 місяців тому

    So… I actually disagree with this video pretty entirely. The FF games share a multiverse, and unlike say Pokemon, this multiverse has relevant historical events that echo across Worlds and timelines. Sure sometimes it’s only easter eggs, but then games like FF8 outright state that a boss from FF3 jumped across Worlds after stealing divine power… and now the Sorceresses inherited Hyne’s divine power originally taken from Yggdrasil. Even if the stories of each game are meant to be self contained with no specific recommended play order, the shared multiverse is relevant to world threatening final boss schemes. And whether or not you tree FF9’s Garland as a continuation of FF1/SoP/Dissidia’s Garlands, or just a puppet filled with memories of such gathered from Memoria… Garland and Memoria directly connect FF9’s Terra to FF1’s unnamed planet. While understanding these multiversal events and connections is never required for enjoying an FF game, clearly some version of other games history are frequently canon to (almost?) any numbered title you look deeply into

  • @steveg9088
    @steveg9088 8 місяців тому

    Using Food/sandwich is stupid.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  8 місяців тому

      You’re right! That’s why the title says “this is dumb”. Thanks for that

  • @ry2950
    @ry2950 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video. Even Quina would be proud of that sandwich analogy.

  • @mountainmgtow5421
    @mountainmgtow5421 Рік тому +1

    Now I'm hungry.

  • @petervasz3739
    @petervasz3739 Рік тому

    Bro does a whole lot if yapping

  • @wlshie7
    @wlshie7 7 місяців тому

    u lot dont put butter on toast????

  • @Knopey
    @Knopey Рік тому

    Splendid sound design! I dig the all the fine details like the sandwich bite, the dun-dun-dun and all. Cool one 👌

  • @hakosa4033
    @hakosa4033 11 місяців тому

    5min video to say "no"

  • @chrisjulien7698
    @chrisjulien7698 8 місяців тому

    Christ bless you, you lost me at turkey sandwich

  • @meltingskeleton2082
    @meltingskeleton2082 Рік тому +2

    You sir, have earned my sub. Looking forward to more!

  • @eijim
    @eijim Рік тому

    Try searching for Gilgamesh . . .

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  Рік тому

      I've got a whole video about Gilgamesh and how the FF Multiverse involves all of us in real life, based off of 1 sentence that Gilgamesh says! ua-cam.com/video/RQsN-7XkeGM/v-deo.html

  • @musestarlight1
    @musestarlight1 Рік тому

    3:15

  • @short0811
    @short0811 Рік тому +2

    Let's go, Lenard! Love your work big guy!

  • @dcsniper4637
    @dcsniper4637 Рік тому +1

    Making me hungry with this one

  • @robbruss8506
    @robbruss8506 Рік тому

    Terrible name for a game that there is more than one of, as "final" fantasy implies it's the last one. If it's the final fantasy, it's like the highlander. There can be only one...

    • @mountainmgtow5421
      @mountainmgtow5421 Рік тому +1

      The first Final Fantasy was going to be Squaresoft's last game if it wasn't successful, hence FINAL Fantasy.

    • @robbruss8506
      @robbruss8506 Рік тому +1

      @@mountainmgtow5421 cool story. Next game, call something different..."first fantasy, the prequel" or literally anything besides the next number. No really this is the last one, but oh we are gonna remaster and rerelease some also...lolz

  • @EAchank
    @EAchank Рік тому

    They are all connected through the Dissidia storyline now!

  • @922apocalypse
    @922apocalypse 7 місяців тому

    ff7 and ff10 are indeed happen in the same world!

  • @lazydgsf7429
    @lazydgsf7429 5 місяців тому

    Damn dude do some research.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  5 місяців тому

      .. literally says “this is dumb” in the title.. I don’t know what you expected but thanks for the comment anyway!
      What part needed research?

  • @Kinger_of_the_circus
    @Kinger_of_the_circus Рік тому

    So I don’t have to play ff1 to understand what’s going on in ff16?