Fully agree with your statement "You don't have to be from a place in order to play music that is traditional in that place". The music you play comes from a piece of your hart and guts, not from a piece of your land. I enjoyed a lot the Irish fiddle starting at 15:20 (No, I am not Irish :)
You don't have to be from a place in order to play music that is traditional in that place, and we never claimed we are from all the places we play music from. Anyway, tracks 1, 4, and 9 are all traditional Bulgarian tunes and three of us are Bulgarian!
Also music has never been owned before nationalism claimed it as a a vital set of its cultural fetishism. Just as clothes fashion thrives on creative anachronism, music is enriched by borrowings, inspirations, re-interpretation. Thank you for making us discover and appreciate those gems and making me dance around
This album is still on sale, you can find it on amazon and elsewhere. The first two albums (Soul of Europe and Jewish Gypsy) were 'homemade' so I think the only way to get them now is on here, for example, which is why I uploaded them really.
Try informing yourself by reading the information here, where it gives the names of the musicians from which it's easy to see where we are from, and by the names of the tunes it is also obvious from which countries and musical cultures they come from if you know anything about music of the Balkans. Nowhere will you find any claim that we are from Translivania. And yes, we are musicians, what's the problem with that?
Die musik hat viel zu tun mit Transilvania und Romania.Romania has and used to have consistent Hungarian, Jewish, Roma & many other minorities. The cultural identity of traditional music is a mixture of everything that was locally played by the population, including foreign influences.Actually,one of the origins of Klezmer Jewish music is in eastern Romania,Moldova, though there were (and still are) a lot of Jewish communities in Transylvania and the west.This music migrated later to New York...
@@adamfreundlich5295 Let me make it easy for you then, wherever you hear her voice, she sings in Bulgarian and I guarantee that 100%, not to mention that there are 3-4 other musicians from Bulgaria. As for the question of whether it is authentic Bulgarian folklore, here my expert opinion disappears.
Let me give you another good exemple... from the portuguese Melech Mechaya. There's the same influence... and it also sounds great - depending if it fits in your tastes.
This band and/or their marketing people have some very unproductive way of marketing them. Like you can´t go to a supermarket unless you are dressed in red and white and wear blue shoes,,, Some of the songs on this record are from the Balkan, not really Romanian, rather Bulgarian or Macedonian. There is some info at rateyourmusic.c-m. I quote: "Orkestina come from Bulgaria, Ireland, England, and Spain. They play eastern european songs, klezmer, gypsy and mix some celtic elements. All musicians have rich musical background and has played jazz, classical, pop and improvisation. This is the band I would love to see in a club, playing at a wedding or if i'm really lucky just see them play live in the streets:)"
Beautiful disc, thank you! 🙏 Mamnele especially is arriving deeply to my soul! Somebody knows where could we find the original version of this diamond?
I’ve been looking everywhere to find an answer but how do you get the clarinet to sound like that? I play clarinet and have no idea how to make it sound so funky and energetic, is it practice or key or special reed? I am admittedly pretty bad at clarinet as well so that could be why..
I'm not the clarinettist, but certainly balkan style is with softer reeds and lifting the instrument up more towards horizontal will give you greater playing possibilities than in western classical technique
Jon Davison Thank you for your answer. I look it up too. I'm from Albania but I live in Greece, so i have been listening to balkan music for all my life. It is very impressive to me that only one of you is actualy from a balcan country, because ALL of you are able to play very deply and expresively this kind of music. I mean, come on, an Irishman playing this kind of violin in "Kragiozis"? Wow! I think you give new life to folk music.Bravo! Really hope you come to Thessaloniki some time...
to mitracheleo - are you sure, that "original transilvanians" didn't lend their "original" melodies from somewhere else? have you done some researches in this subject? the point is, that there are no "original" Balkan music at all after oriental influences
Transilvania was never part of Balkan. Klezmer by definition is a Balkan folklore inspired music. Transilvanian Jewish culture is totally different from the traditional Romanian Jews even if now (from 1918) is part of Romania.
I only listed the regular band members as we were at the time. Additional contributions for the recording were as follows: Minka Nenova - Vocals Aziz Khodari - Percussion Jordi Rallo - Percussion I've updated the info to include them
This music has nothing to do with Transilvania, and believe me this music it is not played by local population in Transilavania... it is probably played in some obscure New York jazz bar or recording studios.. by some musicians..
I did not contest that you are musicians; however the music you produce it is kitch... ; good to be sold as "original" and "originating" from where you do not belong.
My friend, i ensure u it's anything about Transilvania here; u don't know anything about our folklore. I don't contest they are good musicians, but really nothing to do with Transilvania, but the name of album have resonance because that famous Dracula (and by the way, wrong again; he didn't live in Transilvania, if u'll receiving some historical knowledge, you'll finding where he really lived).
May be only the fact that Transilvania is now part of Romania an the music have some Romanian (Balkan) folkloric elements but definitely not Transilvanian.
Fully agree with your statement "You don't have to be from a place in order to play music that is traditional in that place". The music you play comes from a piece of your hart and guts, not from a piece of your land. I enjoyed a lot the Irish fiddle starting at 15:20 (No, I am not Irish :)
You don't have to be from a place in order to play music that is traditional in that place, and we never claimed we are from all the places we play music from. Anyway, tracks 1, 4, and 9 are all traditional Bulgarian tunes and three of us are Bulgarian!
Jon Davison every one a gem !
And If You are bolhar way Transilvania/Ardealul .
Also music has never been owned before nationalism claimed it as a a vital set of its cultural fetishism. Just as clothes fashion thrives on creative anachronism, music is enriched by borrowings, inspirations, re-interpretation. Thank you for making us discover and appreciate those gems and making me dance around
Thank You John Davison for posting this music.
Cet album a l'effet d'une drogue ! Une fois qu'on l'écoute, on ne peut plus s'en passer !!
Stupenda momneele!!
i love drinkin an listenin good music - i could embrace the whole world!
This album is still on sale, you can find it on amazon and elsewhere. The first two albums (Soul of Europe and Jewish Gypsy) were 'homemade' so I think the only way to get them now is on here, for example, which is why I uploaded them really.
Can you please make a bandcamp page for your band and upload your albums there !!! I m sure you find a ton of fans for your music .
Thank you, Danke, Takk, Merci, Gracias, Xiexie !!
Track start times:
1 - 00:00 - Horo #1
2 - 03:52 - Manele
3 - 09:13 - Mary (changes pace at 13:10)
4 - 19:33 - Momneele
5 - 25:09 - Horo #2
6 - 33:17 - Sirba (fantastic!)
7 - 42:36 - Grancharsko Horo
8 - 48:27 - Galitzyaner Tanz
9- 54:16 - Groovski Ritmi
Grazie per queste splendide esecuzioni musicali e soprattutto per il brano " Mom neele "!!
Thank you !
Love it! Enjoying discovering this music and learning about the instruments and styles and how it all fits together. Keep up the great work!
Благодаря! В тези изпълнения разпознавам много български фолклор!!!
Half of the members are from Bulgaria, the opposite would be the strange one.
From me in Scotland, love your music (tapaidh leacht) thank you
This music has a lot a bulgarian folklore touch. It is great!
Δεν διαφωνω μαζι σου, εχει πολυ σουμπετι μεσα , μακαρι να ειχε και καβαλι θα ηταν τελοιο!!!!!
Абсолютно вярно!!!
Very grateful I found this beautiful music :)
Ciao
Good post. Good album! I can't stop to hear it!!
Mola que hagáis esta música tan bonita gente de tantos sitios distintos... Seguid así! Saludos desde España :)
love this album and the excellent musicians greetings from KALIfornia north
Super music. Thanks from Slovakia.
Fantástico !!!!
Saudações do BRASIL !
I've been looking for this band for 10 years. So glad I found it. Loved this music.
great sound regards and respect from Czechia
excellents musicos... merci pour ce partage
WOW! Great music. Thanks for the upload :-)
Beautiful and rich! Congratulations
great music! i love every second of it!
Beautiful music!!
54:14 -> Beautiful!!!
Eclectic and beautiful music.........I love that!!!!
New for my senses beautiful!!!!!
very good music
Beautiful
Wow, great! Compliments to the musicians for this fussion.
It is really awesome! Those sinouse, enchanting sounds inviting you to dance and to reflect upon your life at the same time!
I love it...thank you for playing this music and uploading it...BRAVO!
Thank you so much for uploading! greetings from Mexico.
mesmerizing!
Felicitaciones hermano, gran proyecto, gran propuesta.
Congrats bro, great project, great approach !
amazing music! True music only have one language and one country, the one of the soul =)
7:25 Amazing!
Excelente música!
love it ❤
Thanks from Brazil!
Try informing yourself by reading the information here, where it gives the names of the musicians from which it's easy to see where we are from, and by the names of the tunes it is also obvious from which countries and musical cultures they come from if you know anything about music of the Balkans. Nowhere will you find any claim that we are from Translivania. And yes, we are musicians, what's the problem with that?
Excelente!! 😊
Je l'ai déjà écouté, mais je le re écoute ( encore et encore) avec un très grand plaisir.
Super-muza!! 🎶🔥
Thank you for sharing ! Greetings from Perú
Superlativo❤😊
Preciosa música no me explico cómo se puede oír tanta música mala existiendo ESTO ,desde luego me abstengo de citar la música mala a qué me refiero
GRAZIE from Italy
I love it!
Super music.
Great, great., great!!
Verry good job PERFECT Thank You!!!!! :)
this is the best philosophy I've ever heard of :)
Die musik hat viel zu tun mit Transilvania und Romania.Romania has and used to have consistent Hungarian, Jewish, Roma & many other minorities. The cultural identity of traditional music is a mixture of everything that was locally played by the population, including foreign influences.Actually,one of the origins of Klezmer Jewish music is in eastern Romania,Moldova, though there were (and still are) a lot of Jewish communities in Transylvania and the west.This music migrated later to New York...
Thank you!
Greetings and support from Morocco !
Hmmm the song that is starting at 19:50 is a bulgarian folklore song..................
Hard to separate and harder to tell who was the first but no doubt that klezmer is Balkan inspirited music.
@@adamfreundlich5295 Let me make it easy for you then, wherever you hear her voice, she sings in Bulgarian and I guarantee that 100%, not to mention that there are 3-4 other musicians from Bulgaria. As for the question of whether it is authentic Bulgarian folklore, here my expert opinion disappears.
SWEET
Transilvania ♥!
this is great
Let me give you another good exemple... from the portuguese Melech Mechaya. There's the same influence... and it also sounds great - depending if it fits in your tastes.
This band and/or their marketing people have some very unproductive way of marketing them. Like you can´t go to a supermarket unless you are dressed in red and white and wear blue shoes,,, Some of the songs on this record are from the Balkan, not really Romanian, rather Bulgarian or Macedonian. There is some info at rateyourmusic.c-m. I quote: "Orkestina come from Bulgaria, Ireland, England, and Spain. They play eastern european songs, klezmer, gypsy and mix some celtic elements. All musicians have rich musical background and has played jazz, classical, pop and improvisation. This is the band I would love to see in a club, playing at a wedding or if i'm really lucky just see them play live in the streets:)"
@Aaron Filip Some how I agreed but jewish culture from Transilvania is totally different from Romania.
I've found 2 Orkestina albums on Amazon.
I don't find something about this band... No page, nothing. If you have something to share me about this band, I want it !
+Sally Thia Hi Sally, that's because we don't exist as a band anymore, sorry!
Oh... Why ?
+Sally Thia tis is roumania gipsy
Jon Davison - Your music is soooo amazing ! how can I buy your albums ?
Nice indeed
Brano stupendo (Momneele) cantante favolosa!! ( chi sa dirmi cosa vuol dire "Momneele" in italiano? Grazie
Uno tiene ganas de convertirse en vampiro (Transilvania!) luego de oir esta maravilla...
Hey! Are you also touring through europe? would be a pleasure to hear you live!
Music aus Bulgarien, Mazedonien, Griechenland, Serbien, Bosnien, Sandzak, und minimal aus Rumenien... ! Trotzdem sehr schön...
thX
This is fantastic! Where can I buy?
Beautiful disc, thank you! 🙏 Mamnele especially is arriving deeply to my soul! Somebody knows where could we find the original version of this diamond?
This music makes me want to cure meats and drink homemade spirits from a jar. I am home! 😆
dobriiiijjj
19:35 -- Thank you
Molto bene grazie. Evitaeterna.Ñ.
Can you please direct me to a source recording (and any other information) of Grancharsko oro. I would SO appreciate it !
♥
Rather jolly, isn't it!
👏👏👏👏👏
Inicia aproximadamente em:
1. Horo #1.............................. 0m.00s
2. Manele............................... .3m.54s
3. Mary.................................... 9m.14s
4. Momneele......................... 19m.36s
5. Horo #2..............................25m.16s
6. Sirba.................................. 33m.19s
7. Grancharsko Horo.............42m.39s
8. Galitzyaner Tantz...............48m.28s
9. Graovski Ritmi....................54m.17s
I’ve been looking everywhere to find an answer but how do you get the clarinet to sound like that? I play clarinet and have no idea how to make it sound so funky and energetic, is it practice or key or special reed?
I am admittedly pretty bad at clarinet as well so that could be why..
I'm not the clarinettist, but certainly balkan style is with softer reeds and lifting the instrument up more towards horizontal will give you greater playing possibilities than in western classical technique
@@JonDavisonClown ahhhh fantastic that’s great info, thank you much!!
Great music, great players! Just how fun was to record this tracks?
It is really interesting from aesthetic view! How do you mean: kitsch?
Where are these guys from?!
We're from Spain, Bulgaria, England and Ireland
Jon Davison Thank you for your answer. I look it up too. I'm from Albania but I live in Greece, so i have been listening to balkan music for all my life. It is very impressive to me that only one of you is actualy from a balcan country, because ALL of you are able to play very deply and expresively this kind of music. I mean, come on, an Irishman playing this kind of violin in "Kragiozis"? Wow! I think you give new life to folk music.Bravo! Really hope you come to Thessaloniki some time...
Antigone Chuney Thanks for your comment! Would love to come to Thessaloniki
Jon Davison Now I understand why, although the song is called Transylvania Express, however if Dobrogea is music!
+Jon Davison an hopefuly in Romania
to mitracheleo - are you sure, that "original transilvanians" didn't lend their "original" melodies from somewhere else? have you done some researches in this subject? the point is, that there are no "original" Balkan music at all after oriental influences
Transilvania was never part of Balkan. Klezmer by definition is a Balkan folklore inspired music. Transilvanian Jewish culture is totally different from the traditional Romanian Jews even if now (from 1918) is part of Romania.
Piękna muzyka rumuńska.
why isn't the singer's name included in the list of musicians?
I only listed the regular band members as we were at the time. Additional contributions for the recording were as follows:
Minka Nenova - Vocals
Aziz Khodari - Percussion
Jordi Rallo - Percussion
I've updated the info to include them
thank you. also a BIG thanks for the great ensemble version of Boris Karlov's Gankino!
What is the art used here?
This music has nothing to do with Transilvania, and believe me this music it is not played by local population in Transilavania... it is probably played in some obscure New York jazz bar or recording studios.. by some musicians..
optchá!
Romanian style
Focus on the Express why don't you?
I did not contest that you are musicians; however the music you produce it is kitch... ; good to be sold as "original" and "originating" from where you do not belong.
охуенно!
My friend, i ensure u it's anything about Transilvania here; u don't know anything about our folklore. I don't contest they are good musicians, but really nothing to do with Transilvania, but the name of album have resonance because that famous Dracula (and by the way, wrong again; he didn't live in Transilvania, if u'll receiving some historical knowledge, you'll finding where he really lived).
May be only the fact that Transilvania is now part of Romania an the music have some Romanian (Balkan) folkloric elements but definitely not Transilvanian.
Ciao hello bonjour lol
TRANSILVANIA NU ESTE IN balcani !!!